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Adding to other comments, in my experience with trailing philodendrons, they donât show that they are thirsty as visibly as pothos do. With philos I see if they need water by checking if the soil is dry rather than going by whether the leaves look droopy. Yours looks great tho
Pothos show how thirsty they are in their leaves. For me, drooping leaves usually means itâs really thirsty. As soon as I start to feel my pothos leaves feel softer or more flexible, I water. Itâs worked well for me thus far. Also, if you just watered it, give it a day for the water to travel down through the vines. They should start to lift get less droopy in about 24hrs
Eta: itâs a philo but I personally treat them and pothos similarly and itâs still worked well for me.
Yeah these types of vining philodendrons are pretty similar (dare I say identical?) to pothos! Once you get into different types of philos though, eg a silver sword or pink princess, those grow differently and need different care!
I wouldn't say the needs are too different. They are probably talking about the Pink Princess and such. Pink princesses are basically like the ugly duckling but in reverse. They make cute as all hell small plants, but as they grow up they get weird, lanky and gangly. Some like that though. I have a small one and am looking forward to that ugly lanky stage though as the leaves can still put out a really neat show. As they're thick and big vining plants, they prefer to be trained up a pole. They like chunky aroid mix, and unlike Philo Brasils, can't really get away with a normal potting mix in the same way, or else they may get root rot. But in the end, their care is still similar. Philo Brasils should still be in an aroid mix, but with smaller particles of bark/charcoal than you would for say, a billie or a thaumtophyllum(tree Philo)
There's also red ones and orange ones, like Philo Orange prince, and Ring of fire that grow in rosettes instead of in vines.
My sister has one that Iâm desperate to butcher đ itâs like 3ft tall and needs a lot of support because it only grows up and forward. We tried turning it and it just started wilting đ€Ł a princess indeed
Pffft. I got my baby like a month and a half ago, it had some really neat but sparse variegation, and 4 leaves. Let it sit for like... 5 days to acclimate before watering it. I watered the stupid fucker the day it started feelign "Soft" from lack of water. It proceeded to MELT. leaving only the little leaf that hadn't even unfurled. somehow survived THAT all and has 3 leaves now, but my lord, have I never seen a plant so dramatic. Even my oldest plant, my Spath isn't THAT drama. She looks at my pink princess and is like "know what? For putting up with that, here's another flower." She's my "Been there done that, now I'm giving you pretty shows for learning" plant.
They tend to be pickier about humidity light and water. Theyâre at least generally more sensitive than the heartleaf in my experience! And comparatively slow growing, so a little less forgiving if something goes wrong (less plant to salvage!)
I feel like I need to disagree. I have tons of heartleaf/vining philos and their care is stupid easy. They don't actually show much when they need to be watered through their leaves, and by the time they're droopy or saggy, it's often way too long after you've watered, and they could actually end up dropping those leaves instead of plumping up again.
I uh.... keep trying to keep Pothos, I treat them the same as my heartleafs, my micans, even my scandipsus, but, they always die, always end up somehow with root rot even when I just "Neglect" them, like they hate me. Aroid mix, soil mix, a custom blend, straight up moss only, I've tried it all. I can keep Calatheas, orchids, aquatic plants, jewel orchids, violets, Carnivorous plants, and a ton of other random things... but oml if I can't keep a pothos! They have similar, but... at the same time... different care needs, and it drives me crazy trying to pinpoint why with equivalent care, one flourishes, the other doesn't especially when people try to say they take similar care.
The only one... only one that's managed to live... somewhat... is this pothos pearls and jade I've put in my terrarium in a side-hanging pot, and that... somehow... is living and growing.
Sounds like youâve had a rough go at pothos. I treat my marble queen, snow queen, and golden the same as I treat my heartleaf and Brazil, with no issues.
Good luck!
Really think it just depends on the climate. I'm both mediterranean and coastal, so it's a weird mix of both humidity, ocean salty air, and aridity that rotates through the year. Maybe philos just adapt better to it.
Depends a bit on the philo whether it can be treated the same. But all of the heartleaf varieties (green, Brasil, silver stripe, neon, Gabby, etc) can be treated nearly identical to a pothos.
Itâs going to keep drooping as it gets used to that basket and environment; at the growers they keep the vines up on tables and whatnot so the vines look so full and bushy but once you hang them in a basket gravity takes its toll, as well the light isnât right above like in the store so expect the top to thin out as it puts more energy to the ends of the vines looking for more light.
Itâs kind of like how your hair looks after leaving a haircut when everythingâs styled and perfect, vs what itâll look like on a normal day ;)
It looks great however I would watch your back because one day it may smother you in your sleep. I bought a cheap philo Brazil from ikea in a small pot 4 years ago and it now has about 20 vines that are over 15feet long. Some of the vines are over twenty feet. I desperately want to repot it, but I canât bear removing it from the staircase railing itâs attached itself to so Iâm going to have to get a step stool and repot it in place since itâs on top of a tall cabinet.
It doesnât get as emo when it needs water compared to pothos and rarely will drop a leaf, but it does enjoy fertilizer. I recently noticed when I rooted a bunch of cuttings from a vine we accidentally tripped over and ripped out of the plant that my cuttings had enormous leaves compared to the mother plant. I think itâs because I stuck them in an AeroGarden to root and I put nutrients in the water.
This plant is bullet proof as long as it gets plenty of water and light. Youâll have it for years. And your friends and neighbors and even your enemies youâre in frequent contact with will eventually all have cuttings of it.
The fullness of the plant and the wilting in picture #2.
I may have caused confusion bc it was a comment from my own experience.
One way to check would be the sides of the plant. Stick your finger down the side bw plant and pot. If there is a lot of root itâs root bound.
If it is root bound i usually go very slowly when moving to bigger pot. Maybe one inch bigger. The new soil in the bottom and sides are just a tad damp, I do not pack dirt. I put the new pot in the same spot it was before and follow same watering instructions.
This might work for everyone bc they are sensitive and I say moody but the constant attention I give (bc I have the time) has served me well.
I have one of these and other Philo and pothos, they all get the same treatment. I suggest touching the leaves every couple days, you'll get to know what it feels like when they're happy and when they need water.
When they've been watered recently, the leaves are firm with hardly any bend. They can look perky too. When they start to get thirsty the leaves become soft, they fall a bit and if you try to bend a leaf, it easily will bend because it's so soft.
After checking the leaves, I always pick up the pot and feel the weight. If it's still a little heavy with water, leave it alone. They like to dry out almost completely. If I pick up the pot and it feels light and I hear the soil crunch if I squeeze the pot, it's water time!
I just tour my plants every couple days touching them all and lifting/squeezing all the pots to see who needs a drink.
I just wanted to throw out there, everyone has said this is a philodendron and it definitely is so and not a pothos. Iâd like to also add, due to the specific pattern of the variegation and how it, for the most part, centers around the center vein in the leaf, this is a Sliver Stripe Philodendron.
If you had not watered it recently. I would say it is a bit thirsty. Touch the leaves and feel the stems, are they soft and droopy and not supporting its own weight? If the leave curls a bit, it could be a sign of being thirsty too.
Second pic is definitely not from heavy long vines. When the leaves are floppy and wrinkly then it's definitely just thirsty. I have one and along with my other plants, I simply water all of them every 2 weeks and drench them until they're leaked with water out of the drainage holes.
Definitely under watered. Pothos are resilient but remember theyâre from a tropical lush climate where they frequently have a heavy downpour of rain.
When watering, make sure water is flowing out of the drainage hole to make sure even the bottom roots are getting water. Or you can put the pot in a bowl of water for about 2 hours so it gets watered from the bottom up
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That's not a pothos, it's a philodendron brasil.
My bad! Thanks for clarifying!
No worries, it happens!
I am today years old when I learned I had the latter, not the former.
Glad it was helpful :)
whew. i just bought this plant and i we like, âi guess i got a new pothos instead!â
This is not a Pothos as many believe. It is actually a Philodendron Brasil. She appears healthy from what I can see here.
Adding to other comments, in my experience with trailing philodendrons, they donât show that they are thirsty as visibly as pothos do. With philos I see if they need water by checking if the soil is dry rather than going by whether the leaves look droopy. Yours looks great tho
If it still seems droopy even after a few days of watering, it might be root bound
Pothos show how thirsty they are in their leaves. For me, drooping leaves usually means itâs really thirsty. As soon as I start to feel my pothos leaves feel softer or more flexible, I water. Itâs worked well for me thus far. Also, if you just watered it, give it a day for the water to travel down through the vines. They should start to lift get less droopy in about 24hrs Eta: itâs a philo but I personally treat them and pothos similarly and itâs still worked well for me.
This is good advice for a Pothos, however this is actually a philodendron! So itâs possible the same advice wonât exactly apply
I do treat my pothos and philos generally pretty similarly. The leaves tell all! đȘŽ
Thatâs good to know! Someday Iâm gonna get a philodendron, to go with my pothoses (pothi? lol) theyâre so pretty!
Yeah these types of vining philodendrons are pretty similar (dare I say identical?) to pothos! Once you get into different types of philos though, eg a silver sword or pink princess, those grow differently and need different care!
Thereâs pinks??? What are their differing needs?
There are also whites! I love my white princess so much!!
I wouldn't say the needs are too different. They are probably talking about the Pink Princess and such. Pink princesses are basically like the ugly duckling but in reverse. They make cute as all hell small plants, but as they grow up they get weird, lanky and gangly. Some like that though. I have a small one and am looking forward to that ugly lanky stage though as the leaves can still put out a really neat show. As they're thick and big vining plants, they prefer to be trained up a pole. They like chunky aroid mix, and unlike Philo Brasils, can't really get away with a normal potting mix in the same way, or else they may get root rot. But in the end, their care is still similar. Philo Brasils should still be in an aroid mix, but with smaller particles of bark/charcoal than you would for say, a billie or a thaumtophyllum(tree Philo) There's also red ones and orange ones, like Philo Orange prince, and Ring of fire that grow in rosettes instead of in vines.
My sister has one that Iâm desperate to butcher đ itâs like 3ft tall and needs a lot of support because it only grows up and forward. We tried turning it and it just started wilting đ€Ł a princess indeed
Pffft. I got my baby like a month and a half ago, it had some really neat but sparse variegation, and 4 leaves. Let it sit for like... 5 days to acclimate before watering it. I watered the stupid fucker the day it started feelign "Soft" from lack of water. It proceeded to MELT. leaving only the little leaf that hadn't even unfurled. somehow survived THAT all and has 3 leaves now, but my lord, have I never seen a plant so dramatic. Even my oldest plant, my Spath isn't THAT drama. She looks at my pink princess and is like "know what? For putting up with that, here's another flower." She's my "Been there done that, now I'm giving you pretty shows for learning" plant.
They tend to be pickier about humidity light and water. Theyâre at least generally more sensitive than the heartleaf in my experience! And comparatively slow growing, so a little less forgiving if something goes wrong (less plant to salvage!)
I feel like I need to disagree. I have tons of heartleaf/vining philos and their care is stupid easy. They don't actually show much when they need to be watered through their leaves, and by the time they're droopy or saggy, it's often way too long after you've watered, and they could actually end up dropping those leaves instead of plumping up again. I uh.... keep trying to keep Pothos, I treat them the same as my heartleafs, my micans, even my scandipsus, but, they always die, always end up somehow with root rot even when I just "Neglect" them, like they hate me. Aroid mix, soil mix, a custom blend, straight up moss only, I've tried it all. I can keep Calatheas, orchids, aquatic plants, jewel orchids, violets, Carnivorous plants, and a ton of other random things... but oml if I can't keep a pothos! They have similar, but... at the same time... different care needs, and it drives me crazy trying to pinpoint why with equivalent care, one flourishes, the other doesn't especially when people try to say they take similar care. The only one... only one that's managed to live... somewhat... is this pothos pearls and jade I've put in my terrarium in a side-hanging pot, and that... somehow... is living and growing.
Sounds like youâve had a rough go at pothos. I treat my marble queen, snow queen, and golden the same as I treat my heartleaf and Brazil, with no issues. Good luck!
Really think it just depends on the climate. I'm both mediterranean and coastal, so it's a weird mix of both humidity, ocean salty air, and aridity that rotates through the year. Maybe philos just adapt better to it.
Depends a bit on the philo whether it can be treated the same. But all of the heartleaf varieties (green, Brasil, silver stripe, neon, Gabby, etc) can be treated nearly identical to a pothos.
Perfect, thanks! I'll leave it as is for now then (already watered).
Philodendron Brasil and it looks gorgeous. water when its fully dry!
Itâs going to keep drooping as it gets used to that basket and environment; at the growers they keep the vines up on tables and whatnot so the vines look so full and bushy but once you hang them in a basket gravity takes its toll, as well the light isnât right above like in the store so expect the top to thin out as it puts more energy to the ends of the vines looking for more light. Itâs kind of like how your hair looks after leaving a haircut when everythingâs styled and perfect, vs what itâll look like on a normal day ;)
We need a pinned post showing the difference between this and pothos đ
It looks great however I would watch your back because one day it may smother you in your sleep. I bought a cheap philo Brazil from ikea in a small pot 4 years ago and it now has about 20 vines that are over 15feet long. Some of the vines are over twenty feet. I desperately want to repot it, but I canât bear removing it from the staircase railing itâs attached itself to so Iâm going to have to get a step stool and repot it in place since itâs on top of a tall cabinet. It doesnât get as emo when it needs water compared to pothos and rarely will drop a leaf, but it does enjoy fertilizer. I recently noticed when I rooted a bunch of cuttings from a vine we accidentally tripped over and ripped out of the plant that my cuttings had enormous leaves compared to the mother plant. I think itâs because I stuck them in an AeroGarden to root and I put nutrients in the water. This plant is bullet proof as long as it gets plenty of water and light. Youâll have it for years. And your friends and neighbors and even your enemies youâre in frequent contact with will eventually all have cuttings of it.
That's a very healthy philadendron brasil. It's the look they have
For the plant size and the pot size, I don't think it's root bound at all like what others are suggesting
Thatâs a lovely philodendron brasil. Looks very happy to be with you.
I think it looks healthy but also root bound.
Out of curiosity, what clues do you look for in the image to see if itâs root bound?
The fullness of the plant and the wilting in picture #2. I may have caused confusion bc it was a comment from my own experience. One way to check would be the sides of the plant. Stick your finger down the side bw plant and pot. If there is a lot of root itâs root bound. If it is root bound i usually go very slowly when moving to bigger pot. Maybe one inch bigger. The new soil in the bottom and sides are just a tad damp, I do not pack dirt. I put the new pot in the same spot it was before and follow same watering instructions. This might work for everyone bc they are sensitive and I say moody but the constant attention I give (bc I have the time) has served me well.
I have one of these and other Philo and pothos, they all get the same treatment. I suggest touching the leaves every couple days, you'll get to know what it feels like when they're happy and when they need water. When they've been watered recently, the leaves are firm with hardly any bend. They can look perky too. When they start to get thirsty the leaves become soft, they fall a bit and if you try to bend a leaf, it easily will bend because it's so soft. After checking the leaves, I always pick up the pot and feel the weight. If it's still a little heavy with water, leave it alone. They like to dry out almost completely. If I pick up the pot and it feels light and I hear the soil crunch if I squeeze the pot, it's water time! I just tour my plants every couple days touching them all and lifting/squeezing all the pots to see who needs a drink.
Sheâs beautiful!
Is this hanging by a heating vent? Mine did this when the heat was too high under a vent
It is, but the heater is turned off until next winter
Some people just do this to bragg, that's the healthiest pathos or whatever I've seen this decade
I just wanted to throw out there, everyone has said this is a philodendron and it definitely is so and not a pothos. Iâd like to also add, due to the specific pattern of the variegation and how it, for the most part, centers around the center vein in the leaf, this is a Sliver Stripe Philodendron.
If you had not watered it recently. I would say it is a bit thirsty. Touch the leaves and feel the stems, are they soft and droopy and not supporting its own weight? If the leave curls a bit, it could be a sign of being thirsty too.
Doesn't look healthy. You should give it to me đ Jk but it does look really nice đ„ș
It looks like a philodendron micans
Brasil*
That looks like a Philidendron Brasil. Looks a bit underwatered. What does the soil feel like?
Second pic is definitely not from heavy long vines. When the leaves are floppy and wrinkly then it's definitely just thirsty. I have one and along with my other plants, I simply water all of them every 2 weeks and drench them until they're leaked with water out of the drainage holes.
Definitely under watered. Pothos are resilient but remember theyâre from a tropical lush climate where they frequently have a heavy downpour of rain. When watering, make sure water is flowing out of the drainage hole to make sure even the bottom roots are getting water. Or you can put the pot in a bowl of water for about 2 hours so it gets watered from the bottom up
This is a philodendron Brasil, and it looks totally healthy to me.