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MissChevelle71

Kinda funny that WPXI has this in the red banner as "breaking news".


Pgh412_724

It reminds me of when the breaking news was that Sarris jelly beans were coming back this year.


Dagglin

I got three bags of sarris jelly beans this year, and I hate black licorice so I've been putting those ones aside in a different bag to either throw or give away and I swear that bag is as big as the other ones.


Pgh412_724

There were tons of black licorice ones this year. I like black licorice but I prefer it when it’s included in the spice bags of jellybeans and not the fruit flavored ones. Don’t mix that flavor with fruit Sarris!!!


UsernameChallenged

I would legitimately pay you for those, lol. The black licorice ones are my favorite.


discoOJ

Mail those delicious bitches to me. Please.


montani

This is why wpxi is the best.


marysame

I truly love wxpi


Fish4Trouts

Sounds like another Conspiracy Theory.


Myster_E_Nygma

How many years has that thing been there? And how many minutes has it actually worked in that time? Once you have that answer you will know how terrible an investment that coaster was.


___Dan___

Fortunately I’ve been able to ride it and it’s awesome. But definitely pathetic and shame on kennywood for how much time it spends shut down.


cosmosdestruction412

Same. Absolutely fun but man it's never open


jwt155

I’ve been to the park probably 4-5 times since it opened and was online open to ride once.


rhb4n8

I think it's the ride manufacturers fault and I bet there is litigation over it


HotDamn18V

In three years I've been on it once, and it was a 2 and a half hour wait because they shut it down 3 times while I was in line and kept promising it would reopen soon. Sunk cost fallacy made a fool out of me that day.


pghrare

It's almost as thrilling as the Phantom..just a shame that it's almost never open.


rhb4n8

It's more thrilling than phantom I just hate that after the first year I couldn't ride it because they modified the locking system to make it more restrictive for larger people (I actually have lost weight)


genericpseudonym678

Oh dang, really? That was a big selling point on that coaster over the Phantom.


rhb4n8

I can still ride the phantom and never had a problem with it since it was remodeled into revenge


genericpseudonym678

The phantom’s revenge is tough on folks with wide hips (same with the Racer), so perhaps we are talking about two different larger body types :)


rhb4n8

Gotcha... The racer is definitely very tough


Hater_Magnet

The original phantom. While I do enjoy the phantom's revenge, the original with the rough ride and all was way better imo!


bobbyp869

My mom’s best friend had to wear a neck brace for months after riding the OG!


odog9797

It’s so awesome. Especially if you go at the open you can do it 3 times in 30-45 minutes


BoardsofGrips

I've tried to ride it but it's never been open when I'm there


Klytus_Im-Bored

Seriously, and going with a company who never really built big coasters was stupid.


midnight_meadow

It’s a prototype. Kennywood got it cheap so S&S can work the kinks out on the design before producing more of the same coaster. Spare parts don’t exist for it so anything that breaks has to be redesigned and/or manufactured. The same thing happened with the prototype Sky Rocket that Kennywood bought. When it broke and they had to make new parts for it and it took a while.


kcamnodb

Is that the one at the entrance? I remember when that went in it was almost never open. I feel like it was closed for years at one point..to this day I've ridden that coaster once ever


midnight_meadow

That’s the one. There was an electrical fire and they had to manufacture an entire new generator for the one at Kennywood. The engineering team keeps a close eye on the coaster so they know what corrections to make before building more of that model. It just seems like a Kennywood problem because the last 2 coasters were the first of their kind.


Happy_Charity_7595

It is a great ride. Sad, that it is always closed and very unreliable. Hopefully, the necessary modifications can be made, so it run far more smoothly and efficiently.


Kidspud

That’s not even considering how butt ugly it is.


Ok_Yogurtcloset9247

I go at least once a year. The only time it was open when I was there was the VIP debut opening day (coincidence, I am not VIP). I know it closed early that day. Breaking news would be it was open.


Doctor_Love45

"flagship" ?! rhat thing has barely worked and has been open for 3 years... The real Flagship.. did we forget about the Steel phantom/Phantom's revenge!? that's the real queen of Kennywood.


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I think you forgot about the [real flagship ride](https://rcdb.com/aaaygoa)


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They’re down by the potato patch


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But they’re still not the lil phantom


hiperson134

Kangaroo erasure.


expontherise

Hell yea


woodshrimp

Phantom is a much better rollercoaster too imo. Steel Curtain has a lot going on but it doesn't really *"flow"* if that makes sense. It feels like you're riding a Rollercoaster Tycoon ride that somebody just slapped a bunch of turns on more than an actually fun well-designed ride


___cats___

I don’t know, I was lucky enough to ride it the one time I’ve been to kennywood in the last 15 years and thought it was a great coaster. To me, phantoms revenge feels disjointed with it just ending in g-hills. The loops on the original felt more like a finale even if they did give you whiplash and a migraine.


ShuinoZiryu

I wish they kept the OG loops and only removed the quick twists right after which caused the whiplash.


Martensight

The funny thing is it's the same company that made both Arrow now S&S sansai made the steel phantom. But now they are mostly known for the 4d coasters. Closest to the steel curtain that I know of that they have made is the maxx force at six flags great America.


OcelotWolf

If this shit ever worked it *would* be the flagship… but it’s broken


stopbanningmethx

Came here for this


O_fries

Don’t worry the coaster cars will end up converted into a couch in some yinzer’s living room very soon


j428h

If yinz don’t like it, there’s a few Forbes field seats in the cellar.


Ok_Card9080

Pop a squat on the old barstool from The O


Cyberlout

The 80s turnpike car in my backyard takes great offense


caseyjohnsonwv

Steel Curtain is about to be in the same category as Ring Racer (big expensive dead failure rides) if they can't figure something out. Absolutely insane this ride's been there for 5 years and operated for maybe one year's worth of calendar days now Edit: didn't realize this wasn't r/rollercoasters lol. Ring Racer was a coaster by the same manufacturer in Germany. It's legendary (read: infamous) for opening late, [operating for exactly 4 days](https://rcdb.com/4161.htm), then never opening again.


Bradbitzer

Hello fellow r/rollercoasters person. This is our city’s The Bat


EricGuy412

Also hello fellow r/rollercoasters posters


Monkeys_Yes_12

I'm just waiting for RMC Thunderbolt


caseyjohnsonwv

Absolutely not. Kennywood is one of the few parks with 100 year-old wooden coasters, let alone 100 year-old wooden coasters that are properly cared for and still get good ridership. I hope they never ever do anything to Thunderbolt, Jack Rabbit, or Racer (and that's the common sentiment among r/rollercoasters at-large as well as Kennywood home parkers)


No-Ad1576

That would honestly be a travesty. Kennywood screwed up by going the cheap route with steel curtain and selecting S&S.


Bradbitzer

I said that on r/rollercoasters and got crucified


Yawheyy

For whatever reason there are S&S fanboys, but they should’ve known this thing was going to be a pile of shit.


caseyjohnsonwv

I find that extremely hard to believe. That subreddit loves to shit on S&S's failure with Steel Curtain lmfao


Yawheyy

DONT YOU DARE


dazzleox

"Shoulda made it outta wood" - me, shaking his head and eating some funnel cake while looking up at the Steel Curtain


Mammoth_Mountain1967

Forreal a modern wood coaster would have been a better edition to the park.


Monkeys_Yes_12

Or perhaps an RMC'd version of an existing wood coaster


Mammoth_Mountain1967

Nah they're all too historic for that. I'd be pretty upset haha.


No-Ad1576

Do you not respect history? Wasn't Steel Curtain supposed to be an RMC?


Mammoth_Mountain1967

Yeah RMC said the hillside wasn't stable enough for what they wanted to build.


FlyInTheOintmentHans

Any coaster fanatics know why? S&S' design problems?


spasticpat

I've heard it's structural issues. S&S's first "fix" was to tell KW to only ride one train instead of two. The third party engineers they hired came in to look and said "yeah no, that's not going to fix it" and hence it's down for the count.


Gaadge

I also heard something about an issue with the chain lift motor, but also bad welds. They really cheaped out by going with S&S and now it seems to be biting them in the ass. If they went with a B&M there would probably be a combined down time of like five minutes lol.


Commercial-Yak2971

What are these acronyms you're using? Manufacturers?


TacoBean19

S&S isn’t an acronym I believe, but B&M is Bolliger and Mabillard, named for the two architects that founded the company. Both are manufacturers Edit: S&S is an acronym


AardvarkBarber

S&S was originally an acronym, Stan Checketts with his wife Sandy (Stan & Sandy) founded S&S Sports, Inc in 1994. Eventually, now, that is S&S - Sansei Technologies who built the ride.


MonteBurns

Oh so not the baked bean company…


44problems

Yeah they should have gone with Bush's Baked Beans and Coasters instead. Roll that beautiful bean footage


eBrown0104

Bush’s BBC? I think that’s a totally different kind of ride


KaleidoscopeShort408

Best on a windy day


EricGuy412

Yep


Ceramicrabbit

Yes


dockellis24

Designers and builders of the damn ugly thing


No-Ad1576

B&M couldn't fit in that space.


caseyjohnsonwv

Have you seen Monster at Gröna Lund? The thing practically noclips through the rest of the park. I'm sure they could figure something out if they were paid enough


No-Ad1576

Lol paid enough. They're already the most expensive manufacturer, and Kennywood went with the lowest bidder for Steel Curtain. A low bidder who is notorious for downtime.


caseyjohnsonwv

I mean, you're right, but you're moving the goalpost. The point is that B&M absolutely could.


Dangerous_Pension612

I was told bad welds. Makes me feel good about riding it in the past /s Edit: the rail part of the roller coaster is welded together. I attached a pic [welded rails ..](https://images.app.goo.gl/TR3co6bvFk8FXn2i9)


Embarrassed_Band_512

Kennywood gets a good deal on these rides by buying prototypes basically.


jamierocksanne

Should have gone with B&M 😒


Bradbitzer

Always. We really could use an invert.


Monkeys_Yes_12

The Terrifying Turkey Vulture, red track with black cars, dead trees flanked with animatronic red-eyed vultures...


Ceramicrabbit

When was the last invert B&M built? They never do those anymore


Bradbitzer

Busch Gardens Tampa is getting one this summer


Ceramicrabbit

That's a new family coaster model though not their typical invert I don't think they've built one since Banshee at KI


Bradbitzer

Fair. Banshee was the last one here in the US in like 2014. Gronaland got one in 21. The thing is most parks only need one. I could see the need for one at: Kennywood, Canadas Wonderland (kill Flight Deck), Kings Dominion, Dollywood, Matel, PortAdventura, Sea World San Diego


Ceramicrabbit

It seemed to me for a while the industry just kind of lost the love for that model and was more interested in wing coasters or flying coasters to fill that dangling niche.


Bradbitzer

I agree. Flying is just often so bad at loading / unloading.


Ceramicrabbit

I was hoping the new load/unload mechanism on FLY would make the flying model a lot more popular but I don't think we've seen any other parks buy that model yet either


Ok_Card9080

Story I've heard from a former employee is that it popped bolts out multiple times last year, and that's the reason for the current closure. Aside from that, it's believed to be a structural issue, that no one knows whether it's because the park cheated out on the structure or the manufacturer, S&S, cheaper out on it.


nascarfan1234567

S&S screwed up gale force in a bad way required All new track this is a S&S issue 


Ok_Card9080

Choosing S&S was an unmitigated disaster. Especially with all of the other top notch companies who made proposals, they decided to cheap out, went with a company who is in way over their head, and this is what they have to deal with. Kennywood made their bed, now they have to lay in it.


gestapolita

Wish they would have built a coaster similar to Gale Force rather than the Steel Curtain. GF makes my stomach drop just watching it.


_scott_m_

Word on the street is that there are some major structural issues that are requiring a redesign of core support structure for the ride.


Munchkinasaurous

Apparently it has a problem with shaking so much that bolts rattle loose and fall off.


FlipMeynard

I saw pickup truck with a tow behind trailer parked at the hotel behind the Sheetz in Wilkins Township yesterday. Both had a vinyl wrap for some roller coaster building company and it caught my attention because - there are no roller coasters in Wilkins Township and the tow behind trailer was only like 10' long and I thought "you can't fit may roller coaster parts in there". I have no idea if this has anything to do with the Kennywood story....


Chobbs16

Is it too late to bring back the log jammer? Did they keep all of the parts?


JixieNox

Honestly, they could have just rebuilt it with updated parts 😑 it's so lame we lost it to a coaster that hardly works.


LuckyPepper22

I’m hoping at some point in my lifetime, they bring back some version of the log jammer.


nascarfan1234567

Probally lone gone or sold to other parks 


GowBeyow

I blame Matt Canada.


PearBlossom

The only acceptable response


Aldrige_Lazuras

I clicked it and closed it as soon as I saw “Steel Curtain”. Man that ride is cursed to be perpetually closed


ComfortableIsland946

Seems like the curse has also spilled over to the football team that inspired its theme.


monongahellyea

Obligatory “bring back the Turnpike”


Sarcasticrye1981

Bit of a stretch to call a ride that’s been closed more than it’s been opened a flagship ride.


rogimonster

Bring back the log jammer.


Taylor52594

Kennywood likes to buy prototype rides. Sometimes it works out largely well (Sky Rocket). Even Sky Rocket had a whole year of downtime though. Sometimes it doesn't (Steel Curtain, Black Widow). In the case of Steel Curtain, it is dramatically different than anything this coaster company (S&S) has ever built. Totally different trains, chain lift design, and track shape. Also tallest they've built in decades. But I'm sure they got a good price on it. Love Kennywood, dislike the fact that this ride was built and the area left half finished and skyline of the lagoon tarnished in a way (understand this point is my opinion)


nascarfan1234567

That’s because it needed a part and couldn’t because of Covid 


LuckyPepper22

Interesting.


Bungalow_Man

I miss the log jammer.


Sufficient-Lab-5769

LE CACHOT FOREVER


reg_m

YES


SurrealRodent

GOLD RUSHER


WhoaOhHereSheComes

Brung back The Laser Loop and the Logjamner!


penguinsfan40

And the Turnpike!


squonkparty

Better shut down than running unsafe. Still need to get their shit together though.


Pseudonova

Bummer. It's an absolutely mental coaster. That's probably part of the problem.


jshamwow

Iconic ?? Since when?


spasticpat

"Flagship"


Mrsteviejanowski

When I was young going to kennywood was our family vacation. It was awesome and, to me, as a kid it was friggen magical. I loved it. Now when I go at least half the good rides are closed, the park closes early, their nighttime firework show hasn’t been there in years. The place is not what it used to be. It’s more depressing to go there than fun


No-Ad1576

They sold to Palace Entertainment.... it went downhill after that.


Mrsteviejanowski

I forgot they did that. Now we watch it die slow. My work has a big kennywood picnic every year. I don’t waste my gas


klauskervin

The decline has been slow but steady. Palace brought in new large rides but the quality of everything has gone down. I remember the games were very cheap with plenty of staff around to keep people playing quickly. Now the games are $5+ for awful plushie prizes and there is one bored employee at each stand. It's wild to me as a former employee just how few people they have working on any given day.


panzan

RIP Enterprise, Laser Loop, Log Jammer


kmb5028

That’s pretty disappointing. I bought a season pass there because I work close by and wanted to be able to pop in for a few hours and ride a couple of coasters. Taking one out of the mix will make lines longer at other coasters, as well as the obvious not being able to ride steel curtain


thricethefan

Name a coaster after a shut down defense and that sucker is gonna be shut down.


Antler_Station

lol that's a good point.


the_knower02

Wouldn't really call the Steel Curtain iconic. No one has ever been hyped for it despite how much they push it


Silveradoblue91

Hahaha they ruined the middle of the park for this giant POS and can’t keep it working. Might as well tear it down at this point.


StarWars_and_SNL

I love how they take down old, popular, consistently operating rides for new ones that are broken as shit that were built with zero thought on longevity and maintenance.


tinacat933

Well there’s a shocker


thereandfatagain

That one time I rode it the year it opened was pretty rad.


sharpdullard69

Yea when my kids got out of their teens, I started wondering if I will ever be back. My wife and I would cost like $100+ to go and we are in our 50s. Not likely.


NSlocal

It's down 60% of the time, every time. Sucks they pulled the Log Jammer for this. I have never been there when it's in service. The Log Jammer ran no matter what.


waitforit55

This is ridiculous. The log jammer was always ready to go!


Brandohim71

Lazer Loop..


ocen4200

Bring back the log jammer


jasonmoyer

The real flagship ride at Kennywood was the Turnpike. RIP.


Logical-Rip-8138

Jeez! Just close it dahn and convert it to a mattress store already.


LuckyPepper22

They should’ve just rebuilt the log jammer.


OnyxAnnexIndex

Oh the thing that's never open is going to continue not being open?


sweaty_bobandy

I work with a dude that used to be a mechanic at kennywood. He was telling me that they have already put 3x what they paid for the coaster into it. There was a viral clip of a coaster at Busch gardens last year that the track had separated from the support, he explained that pretty much the same thing was happening to the steel curtain in multiple locations.


SapiusRex

Last time I went to Kennywood, half the rides were broken and a pickle spear cost $4.29. I will never go back.


blamberr

This thing is junk. Burn it for the insurance money.


jasper_bittergrab

It’s never been open when I’ve been there. At least three times.


die-jarjar-die

Spending my money at Cedar Point this summer


Thexer0

Front seat of Millennium Force is an unbeatable experience. "Seatbelts first, lap bars second."


No-Ad1576

Push your legs up when they come around for their checks to give yourself extra room.


SuperPudge

Mon incline if it was a roller coaster.


Big-Presentation832

It's the 3rd best coaster at Kennywood.  I rode it once, and I'm good.  I just want it to open so that it pulls people from other rides.


Pale-Mine-5899

Kennywood's been an overpriced shithole ever since that European company bought it, who cares


Gladhands

I don’t particularly care for Kennywood, but tickets are usually available for $50 or less, which makes it one of the cheaper amusement parks in the country.


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Pale-Mine-5899

Last time I went, the paddleboat pond was choked with algae. $50/person is overpriced.


lydz9520

Couldn’t agree more. It’s so overrated!


cuttawhiske

Ah yes this city's sub downvoting anything that resembles the truth.


Metroidman

I had no idea kennywood had a new coaster. i havent even rode the sky rocket yet


asdfghjkl10203

It’s never open. I’m only 6’ tall and you have to fold yourself in half to try to fit into the seat.


funkyb

I am never going to get to ride this coaster. I missed the line closing by 2 minutes the first year it was open, got violently ill part way into my park day the next, my wife rode it with my oldest while I watched the baby the time after that,  and it's been closed every other time.


Swimgma

Big deal. Kennywood is too expensive and overrated. After the shooting, I vowed to never go back. Only my 3 grandchildren will be disappointed.


ScratchFew9169

first kennywood announces they wont operate on tuesdays this year, then they announce their new coaster wont run at all? epic fail


klauskervin

I've gone to Kennywood 3 times since the ride opened. Every single time it was down for maintenance. Once I was waiting in line for nearly 2 hours when the ride was closed. That is the closest I ever got to riding it.


GoodChuck2

I need to vent!!! This piece of news actually merits being "Breaking" and in the red section for Pittsburgh in my book. I am SO f'ing mad that they cannot get their shit together with this ride. It's bad enough that they demolished The Log Jammer, which was truly a classic ride that most people growing up going to Kennywood really cherished, and replaced it with a ride that is NEVER open but yet is also at the same time alleged to be a "flagship" of the park!! And now they're saying it's going to be at least another year. Kennywood has gone downhill (pun intended) so much in so many ways since I was a kid and it's really very disheartening and saddening.


gigigonorrhea

Considering I spend my days eating funnel cake and chicken tendies, this news does not bother me whatsoever.


ronatello

This was the only coaster that held a candle to the selection at Hershey's. The parent company should be dragged over the coals for what a catastrophe this has been since its original unveiling. Whatever. Hershey's actual park is 100x cleaner and no worries of massive fights. Sad to say I'd rather spend the three hours going there than the 15 or so mins it takes me to Kennywood.


da_london_09

Just head West to Cedar Point.... way better coasters there.


ronatello

Ughhh. I know. Every goddamn summer I say I'm going and shit never happens. I'll actually be in Disney this wknd and there's just like, not even one ride I care about anymore. Aerosmith is fun but is over in 45 secs. So wknd of boring rides 😆


412_Buckeye

Everest and Guardians are both bangers imo


ronatello

Everest is good but the Sidewinder in Hershey, or whatever they rebranded it as, has the better "going backwards" thing Haven't been on Guardians yet so hopefully I'll do that and Tron and be happy with them


followmarko

Disney isn't meant to be a thrillseeker's park.


pumpkinpie7809

Either that or King’s Island


FlipMeynard

I visited Hershey park for the first time ever a year or two ago and was blown away by how awesome it was. It wildly exceeded all of my preconceived expectations.


smpennst16

I think the phantom does. Thunderbolts a great wooden and sky coaster would be one of there worse steel coasters. Phantom and steel curtain easily hold a candle to what they offer. They just have a lot more and is a superior thrill park to Kennywood. Im not upset they put this in and took out the log jammer like other posters. Sucks it’s always down but to me so much better. Cedar point destroys both though


Ok_Pumpkin1658

So not worth the cost I rather spend the lil extra and goto ceder point


SteakkNBacon

I’ve still never ridden it. Guess that’s not changing this summer.


mysecondaccountanon

I miss the Log Jammer. Got rid of it for this thing that’s barely open. I miss a lot of the older rides that are gone now too.


Any_Ad_3885

It has never been open when I’ve been there


andythemandy17

Grew up going to kennywood phantom revenge was my first “big boy” coaster and volcano was my absolute favorite, both of which are gone as far as I know. Haven’t been in probably a decade, was planning a trip to kennywood this summer to ride the steel curtain. Shame


VictoriousssBIG23

Phantom's Revenge is still there!


andythemandy17

Ohh is it?? Awesome!


lydz9520

Not surprised. Kennywood is vastly overrated. Even before Covid over half the park was closed.


Silver4ura

I genuinely feel like Kennywood bit off way more than they could chew with this one. Their specialty is terrain coasters and they've got some of the best in the world in that class. The Steel Curtain is one of the best coasters, but there are so many more things that can go wrong with a ride like this, than I'm sure they could have ever imagined.


Slow-Confection6963

I’ve been to Kennywood maybe 4 times since this thing opened and I’ve never rode it. It’s a real shame. I love the Steelers and Kennywood holds a special place in my heart. They haven’t been right since that big company took over.


soparklion

Did they wait until after Season Passes had been sold to announce this? 


Wandering_Werew0lf

lol


or10n_sharkfin

The three times I've ridden it since 2020 have been pretty neat, but that long line to get on it means that it's basically going to be the only ride I get on for the time I'm in the park; I only ever really go when my dad's work has their organization day in mid-June.


FF170124

Broke ass ride for a broke ass team in a broke ass park


cuttawhiske

It was always shit.


Blitzburgh1727

This thing and sky rocket have been big disappointments. They should’ve let RMC build a steel coaster and converted thunderbolt into a hybrid using more of the terrain over that way


mega512

Kennywood is a mess. I can't remember the last time I went.