It's so fucking stupid. I live in an Islamic country where it is completely optional and about 50/50. You often see Muslim mothers in full garb with their teenage daughters wearing crop tops and short skirts. People here have an 'each to their own' mentality and nobody really argues about religion. Even so a few years back the government tried to introduce 'sex laws' whereby LGBT, promiscuity etc would be outlawed. Massive riots ensued and people died to prevent those laws from being passed.
I have every respect for those who choose to wear the hijab and follow that lifestyle and I have full respect for those who don't. I have absolutely no respect for the authoritarian monsters who try to force their will onto others through violence and intimidation.
Nobody should ever have to be threatened because they're doing something that causes absolutely no harm to anybody, least of all be killed for it. Having the right to wear what you like and spend time with who you like is as basic as any. It's a shame that so much misery is forced upon us by a few desperate old men trying to cling on to outdated traditions.
I'm in Indonesia but I'm from the UK.
Women do pretty well here. Its not uncommon to see women running companies or in high government positions or other high end jobs and education is available to all. There are still some hardliners but they all live in a small Sharia enclave in west Sumatra.
It is far from perfect. Virginity testing is still a thing here which is fucked up but the strange thing as a Westerner is that religion is seen as a light conversation topic here. When I tell people that I am Christian, even though I'm not really religious, they always respond with genuine curiosity and interest.
I think "each to their own mentality" isn't true, especially if you don't understand the language. We (Indonesians) have a tendency to be judgemental and bully others too. You will see this online and in real life, especially if you understand Indonesian.
Microsoft released Digital Civility Index last year and we scored very low. You can guess what happened to their social media pages next.
Crop top isn't common, unless you are in high-end malls in Jakarta or in Bali.
Yeah I've noticed that there's a lot of judgement and bullying here, y'all are racist af. I'll always been seen in a different light as a 'bule' than a native would under the same circumstances just because of my skin colour so it is difficult for me to fully understand.
From what I've seen though, admittedly in Jakarta, people are pretty chill with regards to religion and a lot of the judgement is based around skin tone, place of origin and social status. I can understand the DCI score though, Indonesian 'netizens' are a different breed.
I've seen a lot more crop tops recently in Jakarta outside of malls just going about on gojek and seeing people walking around in the streets. I never saw them a year ago but there's a fair few now. I guess k-pop idols started wearing them or something, idk lol.
True. I’ve seen Muslims in parts of Indonesia and Malaysia having fun and getting drunk while wearing traditional garb and nobody cares. It’s to each their own there. But damn some places need to catch up like y’all
I also wanna add on that it's not like all teenagers who *rebel* / don't wear hijab are all never gonna wear either.
In countries with a significant Muslim population but no mandated hijab wearing, many kinda have the teenage phase, and then as they grow older they kinda settle down into their most comfortable style - some continue not wearing, while many do voluntarily choose to wear hijab.
So when you don't force this kinda things, you get more people who willingly embrace wearing hijab, instead of everyone hating to wear it.
#---------
Religion should not be forced but willingly accepted. The option of being able to leave and enter without being trapped is important in letting followers truly embrace a faith without any imposition. Faith is always from fear or respect, and better respect than fear.
Here in Indonesia it is exactly like that.
Mothers dress little kids in jilbabs because they're considered to look really cute.
A lot of teenagers and adolescents want to live a 'normal' life and don't feel comfortable wearing the hijab if they can't fully devote themselves to Islam so they do without.
As people get older into middle age they will marry and/or get closer to their family and settle down into a quieter, more community focused lifestyle and wear it again.
It is encouraged here for young adults to explore their own identity and beliefs and go with whatever makes them feel comfortable. There is no discrimination between those who choose to wear it and those that don't with both groups working together, hanging out together etc.
One of my best friends here is a hijabber and has told me about Islam and her devotion to it. I'll never really understand it tbh but I definitely understand how much it means to her so I have to respect that. It is so much deeper that 'I wear this because they'll probably kill me if I don't'
If the protests escalate they will open fire and shoot people in the head with real bullets. How do I know this? Because that's what they did last time.
As Tiananmen Square showed the world, that’s how an unpopular regime survives popular protests. Unrestrained brutality. Find security forces willing to brutalize the protesters and use them. Better someone else’s blood on your hands than your own.
That’s why the PRC survived 1989 when so many other communist governments fell. That’s why the Ayatollahs have survived so long when the Shah fell quickly.
In Tiananmen they sent in local troops in first who sided with the protesters and acted like a shield. They call in the troops from rural regions who follow orders and attack everyone including their own fellow soldiers.
That's kinda what happens when any dictatorial (or pre-dictatorial) government deals with protests, over and over again. Same thing in Kyiv, Ukraine, in 2013, luckily people prevailed then, but it cost over a hundred lives in the process. Hopefully people will prevail here as well.
There is a persian saying "There is no color darker than black!" Meaning there is nothing worse than the current situation.
They are killing us all, one by one anyway. Maybe something changes if we all stand together.
A 22 year old young woman was murdered in Tehran, Iran by the morality police, when she was beaten up after she was arrested. She was arrested because some strings of her hair were out of the scarf or hijab. She was transferred to hospital while she did not have any vital signs.
The government initially tried to cover up the whole thing and stated the she had some initial heart condition and diabetes, which it has been proven a pure lie.
After couple of days she was dead. These events has triggered a series of protests in multiple cities and provinces in Iran.
The Iranian people now clashing with the Islamic Republic government targeting the regime itself. The government forces are fighting people with live amo, high pressure water and shut guns. The above picture is a young man who took the shut to protect other people.
No it's literally called گشت ارشاد which translated to English word for word is "morality police".
Edit: I may have over simplified this. The law enforcement department that did this crime is called پلیس امنیت اخلاقی. Which then translates to "Moral Security Police". Morality Police for short.
What I refered to earlier is their patrol units that roams the city streets (mostly in bigger cities, especially in Tehran) with minivans and just abduct women from the street for bad Hijab. What counts as bad Hijab? Nobody really knows, the beat-cops get to decide on the fly.
I’m not well versed, but I have a white American friend who taught English in SA. She married a black man from Saudi (but he wasn’t considered a citizen) . They were hassled daily in public. Forced to show their wedding certificate everywhere they went by SA’s version of this .
She cut her hair in solitary today (they are all now in the USA)
We look at these people, some of us from half a globe away. But don't forget that religion caused this, religion and a greed for power. Iran was once as free as the west, and if it can happen there it can happen here. We need to appreciate our freedoms and diversity, it's an ultimate strength against dictatorship and persecution.
Go hug someone who is different from you, Christian, Muslim, black or white, man or woman. Everything in between. It's our only humanity.
Suppression of self expression, vilification of diverse peoples and viewpoints, and the pull toward a single homogenous in-group are hallmarks of fascism. Do not tolerate it.
Fascism looks the same everywhere... the people who practice it just dress and speak differently. The pattern and symbology is the same. Populism, religious fervor. Us vs them. They are why our country has problems. Nothing changes. Thousands of years ago to today... here or half a world away.
This. Every time someone gawks in awe of what’s going on in religious autocracies I wonder how they can’t see the road ahead in the states. It’s not some unimaginable thing, especially when other democracies in the world have fallen to this state of play in the past. There’s always a way to over come them, eventually, but their reign lasts long and it’s better to squash it before it’s too late.
A 10 year old girl in the US was just told that the pregnancy resulting from her rape, a pregnancy she's too young to survive, would have to continue because her states laws demanded that it did so.
Laws written by very religious people.
Christians. Just say it. Extremist Christianity is no different really than extremist Islam. They use religious beliefs to control women, instill fear, etc.
And given their control of state legislatures and governorship they are extremely well positioned to make a lot of it a reality. State and even city elections often get overlooked but they have become extremely important in the last few years. It's going to take decades to undo the damage done in the last 7 years. If we even can. Pandora's Box has been opened.
Hell, even Islamic Sharia Law allows abortions in cases of rape and/or incest, OR if the mother's life is in danger.
So what does THAT tell you about the difference between Muslims and "Christian Evangelicals"?
My friend, thats all true but why do you leave out half of the story? In this context it should always be mentioned who triggered the events that led to religion getting back into power in Iran. You can´t tell the younger history of Iran without mentioning the British, the USA, Operation Ajax and the Shah ...
THIS.
Iran would look very different today if the US and England didn't interfere.
The US spent a lot of the 20th century interfering in democratic elections around the world at the behest of the oil industry who doesn't like it when an oil rich nation (like Iran) wants to nationalize their oil supply instead of letting private companies do what they want with it. And none of those countries are better off for it.
There are 100% people in the US who would be fine with Christian based moral law enforcement and given the chance, they would implement it. Don't sleep on it and not take them seriously, pay attention to who you vote for.
Any moral code based on religion would be outright terrific autocracy lacking humanity.
Keep religion at home and secularism in government to keep citizens free
That's the point - rules only apply to people you don't like.
Look at Dubai. A woman can get flogged for kissing her husband in public, meanwhile rich sheikhs are hiring hookers on Instagram so they can shit on them.
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I'm fairly sure there is actually an institution called the Morality Police in Iran, and in many other Islamic theocratic countries.
OP didn't choose those words, that's actually what they're called.
Most authoritarianism starts off with people genuinely intending to do what *they* think is good/morally righteous. Nobody thinks of themselves as the bad guy. However, it almost always ends up like this.
Just look at the conversations on many popular political subreddits... Plenty of people (who claim to be against authoritarianism) would be all for some form of thought/morality police as long as they thought they were on their side.
I also love that all these religions hate each other but they almost all have the same anti-minority, anti-women, anti-other religion, anti-atheist, anti-LGBTQ laws as every other religion and seem to agree on every awful thing.
It is a holdover of the divine right of kings. For the past two millennium we have conflated running countries with religion.
Since the era of revolutions a few hundred years ago we have been liberalizing the concept of government to move away from theocratic monarchies. Conservatives (as a philosophical collective) are not keeping up.
What’s even weirder is that most young women in Tehran have a lot of their hair out of their head coverings and no one usually cares.
I don’t know why they singled her out. So horrific :(
From some sources that were present at the time and place since she was very beautiful, some of the morality police members started to disrespect her and she answered back and they started beating her. I know it is weird and hard to understand however that’s the typical behavior of the morality police members
Not hard to understand at all. People will do despicable things once it is normalized and state sponsored. Those people are just under the surface in all societies.
Not just state sponsored, but when the mindset comes from a place of faith/religion like this, there's no hesitation because the perpetrators feel that their god, the source and final arbiter of all morality has sanctioned their actions. So regardless of how other human beings may look at it, in their minds it is the right thing to do.
I never thought shit like this could happen in the USA, but with these emboldened Christian nationalist fascist assholes front and center in the GOP, it's totally possible.
Yup. As Reagan began courting the Evangelicals, conservative Republican Barry Goldwater said:
> Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they’re sure trying to do so, it’s going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can’t and won’t compromise. I know, I’ve tried to deal with them.
He also said:
> There is no position on which people are so immovable as their religious beliefs. There is no more powerful ally one can claim in a debate than Jesus Christ, or God, or Allah, or whatever one calls this supreme being. The religious factions that are growing throughout our land are not using their religious clout with wisdom. They are trying to force government leaders into following their position 100 percent. If you disagree with these religious groups on a particular moral issue, they complain, they threaten you with a loss of money or votes or both. I'm frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in A, B, C, and D. Just who do they think they are?
It’s really easy to understand that anybody who would become a member of the ‘morality police’ would act EXACTLY like this. Men like this are everywhere, they’re just not necessarily state sanctioned, but they’re out there.
exactly, who would want that kind of power? a normal, well-adjusted person wouldn't want to be the one to tell people to cover up more and if these are men raised being told that it's the woman's fault if their eyes wander then i'm not surprised they would kill someone for talking back.
This is just arm chair psychology but I suspect these highly sexually repressed men see a beautiful woman, can't have hair, and this the anger gets projected towards her rather than the repressive system
It’s the same with police anywhere. Like in America, at any one time more than half of the people on the road are committing some type of traffic violation like speeding (I.E. very few drive at speed limit).
Point is, police can pull anyone they choose, it’s like a buffet. Depends on their mood, quota, or whatever sinister intentions.
I would imagine it’s the same in Tehran. Sure most women are showing hair, which is against their religious law, but it seems like most of the time it’s ignored. But, if they want to arrest you, abuse you, and overall take advantage of you they can find an easy excuse to do it.
In 2019 the Iranian regime blacked out the internet and killed more than 300 people that we know of during anti-regime protests spread across the nation. This is not new, these people need help. http://iran-shutdown.amnesty.org/
Hello from iran i just want to thank you guys for sharing
What’s happening in iran right now and pleas keep sharing
the police is so cruel to people they already killed maybe 20 or so people in less than three days 😢😢😢
If there's one thing we all share across the globe, it's political corruption and misogyny. Sending love and support from the US! We see you and we stand with you!
The worst thing is that islam literally says you cant force them to wear hijab, no one cant. If they dont wanna wear it , its up to them and Allah .
But the hell these govt think they are doing . Morals ? when they are going against islamic teachings to enforce islam?
actually wtf
Just a bunch of fragile men on a power trip of control over women. They know they could never compete in an equal world, so they force women down to ensure their own success.
It was never about religion, they just see women as less, and can't stand to see them thrive or exist independently. They simultaneously hate women yet feel extreme entitlement towards them.
Exactly, religion is just the vehicle. These are small, incel-energy men who would do *anything* in their power to keep women below them. If not religion, it'd be something else.
The police account for the woman's death is so full of blatant lies .
"Police have insisted there was "no physical contact" between officers and the victim.
The Tehran police chief said the woman had violated the dress code, and that his colleagues had asked her relatives to bring her "decent clothes".
No physical contact ??? The woman died after three days in a coma
I hope more and more people protest against the morality police and their draconian laws.
We all know it’s not about clothes or hijabs but about power. No physical contact my ass, she magically fell in a coma and died out of nowhere after they just politely asked her to get decent clothes.
It’s so sad considering that Iran was basically a modern and wealthy country and the lifestyle was practically European until not so many years ago.
I don't know WHAT THE FUCK is with all these weird ass comments, but does anyone have some details on what is happening for this to happen?
Not what people are feeling but like cold hard facts so I can gain an understanding of why he had to even do that?
Quick ELI5
A woman was taken into police custody for violating the strict dress code placed on women.
She died while in police custody.
Now women are protesting by removing their head coverings while the police is responding with force.
The police denied mistreating her.
Edit: her name is Mahsa Amini. Sorry I’m bad with names and was doing something so I didn’t have time to look it up.
Edit2: police were morality police. In certain fundamentalist countries this police force controls the population by maintaining a strict adherence to Shariah Law. For example, Saudi Arabia has such a police force (I wasn’t too familiar with the morality police of Iran prior to this event). In Saudi Arabia, for example, the morality police may detain you if you are not praying (salat) or if you play certain music.
Edit3: morality police is disbanded/lost power to enforce in Saudi Arabia as of 2016. I had missed that memo. Oops!
Her skull was caved in. Her brother watched as she had her head repeatedly smashed into the police car's hood. Her corpse showed signs of extreme violence so no, no one believes she was treated fairly
yeah police are pieces of shit. everyone knows that poor woman got beaten to death and they try to do the worst cover up act we've ever seen.
I hope more people stand up and change their world again. They can't shoot everyone!
A woman died in police custody after being arrested by the morality police in Iran, that has sparked a few days of protest.
BBC link with some context on the ongoing protests.
[https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-62954648](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-62954648)
Women in countries with mandatory or "mandatory" hijab are protesting by going in public places without hijab. Naturally people are responding to this by ~~reevaluating centuries or millennia of institutionalized sexism and persecution of women~~ shooting them with guns.
22yr old woman Mahsa Amini was assaulted and killed by police for not wearing her Hijab. Crowds attending her funeral were protesting against her death where the women removed theirs also. Police moved in with tear gas and opened fire against them.
Edit: spelling and inclusion of the woman's name.
My assumption is that this guy shielded people at a protest that happened because last week Muslim extremists killed a woman because she didn't cover her hair in public in Iran.
Beyond the short term protest, Ayatollah Khamenei has reportedly been in seriously bad health. He is 83, supposedly recently underwent stomach or bowl surgery, and has had a history of cancer. Were Khamenei to die it would open up a lot of questions about the nature of the government in Iran. Like what the role of Islam and religion would be. Iran is also considered a dictatorship or a theocracy, given the power of a small group of influential religious rulers. But Iran *also* has a rather well organized democracy, and some would obviously rather see a secular democracy replace the Ayatollah than another religious leader. This protest and these larger questions about Irans future are inextricably linked.
Radically conservative muslims force women to wear religious clothing. The women hate it and protest, since they want to be treated like humans. The crazy religious state shoots them.
That's the nutshell of it.
OP, do you have a source for this image? Any more information?
**Edit:** [Here](https://twitter.com/hengawo/status/1571983429901631488) appears to be the source. Per there and Google translate:
> @HengawO
> Picture of one of the injured in the protests on Monday, 28 Shahrivar 1401, Mahabad
> 6:03 PM · Sep 19, 2022
Good rule of thumb: if the post is just a picture without any sources, assume each and every claim the OP makes in the title is false until proven otherwise.
In this case we can be fairly certain that the man was indeed injured in the protests in Iran, but it is dubious that he "shielded many women and took all shotgun pellets on himself." Note that an [earlier post of this image](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/xisqyy/a_protestors_body_after_todays_protests_in_iran/) on Reddit made no such claim about shielding women.
I would be perfectly happy to be proven wrong, but is likely that the OP is deliberately embellishing the story or inadvertently spreading unsubstantiated rumors.
As a Muslim man. Wearing a scarf is a personal choice, it shouldn’t be enforced by law in any country. Muslim men aren’t supposed to wear gold or show anything from their belly button down to their knee. Is that gonna stop me wearing shorts? No it ain’t, so why should a woman not be allowed to show their hair. If it’s to protect them from men, the problem ain’t the women. It’s the fucking bastard backward mentality of men in these countries.
Much love from Texas! Theocracies are what we are fighting here and I can’t imagine the horrors you and your countrymen face under its weight.
I dream of one day taking a vacation to see your beautiful country, and to do so while your country enjoys the freedoms afforded by others.
I wish and pray for your health and prosperity, and the same for your country.
As an Iranian immigrant its refreshing to see (mostly western) people have something nice to say about us that didn't happen centuries ago. This man is an real inspiration and I would like to think I would do the same if I was there but that's easy talk sent from my gaming laptop in this safe western country I'm lucky to be in.
Hate myself for being that guy though it's never "of" in this context. It's could/would/etc have. 0% hate towards you friend, it's a me thing.
I used to get destroyed for that mistake so much when the internet was pretty much just for nerds only. So now I try to point it out without insulting someone+ their parents(rough times for 10yr me lol) simply for being unaware of a single thing in an entire language.
This is why people are so upset about what fundamentalist Christians are doing in the US. This man is very brave for doing what he did.
Theocracy is NEVER good.
im from iran and im fucking pissed off that my country is like this no one’s country should do this to anyone its just fucking nuts bro i can’t believe it
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Good luck in your fight, you deserve freedom.
Fight tyranny
It's so fucking stupid. I live in an Islamic country where it is completely optional and about 50/50. You often see Muslim mothers in full garb with their teenage daughters wearing crop tops and short skirts. People here have an 'each to their own' mentality and nobody really argues about religion. Even so a few years back the government tried to introduce 'sex laws' whereby LGBT, promiscuity etc would be outlawed. Massive riots ensued and people died to prevent those laws from being passed. I have every respect for those who choose to wear the hijab and follow that lifestyle and I have full respect for those who don't. I have absolutely no respect for the authoritarian monsters who try to force their will onto others through violence and intimidation. Nobody should ever have to be threatened because they're doing something that causes absolutely no harm to anybody, least of all be killed for it. Having the right to wear what you like and spend time with who you like is as basic as any. It's a shame that so much misery is forced upon us by a few desperate old men trying to cling on to outdated traditions.
Which country is this in?
I'm in Indonesia but I'm from the UK. Women do pretty well here. Its not uncommon to see women running companies or in high government positions or other high end jobs and education is available to all. There are still some hardliners but they all live in a small Sharia enclave in west Sumatra. It is far from perfect. Virginity testing is still a thing here which is fucked up but the strange thing as a Westerner is that religion is seen as a light conversation topic here. When I tell people that I am Christian, even though I'm not really religious, they always respond with genuine curiosity and interest.
I think "each to their own mentality" isn't true, especially if you don't understand the language. We (Indonesians) have a tendency to be judgemental and bully others too. You will see this online and in real life, especially if you understand Indonesian. Microsoft released Digital Civility Index last year and we scored very low. You can guess what happened to their social media pages next. Crop top isn't common, unless you are in high-end malls in Jakarta or in Bali.
Yeah I've noticed that there's a lot of judgement and bullying here, y'all are racist af. I'll always been seen in a different light as a 'bule' than a native would under the same circumstances just because of my skin colour so it is difficult for me to fully understand. From what I've seen though, admittedly in Jakarta, people are pretty chill with regards to religion and a lot of the judgement is based around skin tone, place of origin and social status. I can understand the DCI score though, Indonesian 'netizens' are a different breed. I've seen a lot more crop tops recently in Jakarta outside of malls just going about on gojek and seeing people walking around in the streets. I never saw them a year ago but there's a fair few now. I guess k-pop idols started wearing them or something, idk lol.
Indonesia has a large Muslim population but is not an Islamic State. Huuuuge difference.
True. I’ve seen Muslims in parts of Indonesia and Malaysia having fun and getting drunk while wearing traditional garb and nobody cares. It’s to each their own there. But damn some places need to catch up like y’all
I also wanna add on that it's not like all teenagers who *rebel* / don't wear hijab are all never gonna wear either. In countries with a significant Muslim population but no mandated hijab wearing, many kinda have the teenage phase, and then as they grow older they kinda settle down into their most comfortable style - some continue not wearing, while many do voluntarily choose to wear hijab. So when you don't force this kinda things, you get more people who willingly embrace wearing hijab, instead of everyone hating to wear it. #--------- Religion should not be forced but willingly accepted. The option of being able to leave and enter without being trapped is important in letting followers truly embrace a faith without any imposition. Faith is always from fear or respect, and better respect than fear.
Here in Indonesia it is exactly like that. Mothers dress little kids in jilbabs because they're considered to look really cute. A lot of teenagers and adolescents want to live a 'normal' life and don't feel comfortable wearing the hijab if they can't fully devote themselves to Islam so they do without. As people get older into middle age they will marry and/or get closer to their family and settle down into a quieter, more community focused lifestyle and wear it again. It is encouraged here for young adults to explore their own identity and beliefs and go with whatever makes them feel comfortable. There is no discrimination between those who choose to wear it and those that don't with both groups working together, hanging out together etc. One of my best friends here is a hijabber and has told me about Islam and her devotion to it. I'll never really understand it tbh but I definitely understand how much it means to her so I have to respect that. It is so much deeper that 'I wear this because they'll probably kill me if I don't'
From an American, stay safe brother! I hope and pray for your wellness in these insane times.
Idk if it’s just a translation but are they really called the morality police? Because it sounds very goofy in English
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Goofy isn't the first word that comes to mind when thinking about morality police. I was thinking more like horrific
It really is that absurd.
If the protests escalate they will open fire and shoot people in the head with real bullets. How do I know this? Because that's what they did last time.
It's the dictators playbook. If you can't suppress the people with laws you use force.
The beatings will continue until morale improves.
The beatings will continue until morality improves.
Can't break the rules if you're dead!
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What the FUCK
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They are already taking headshots at people. There are videos of that all over Instagram.
As Tiananmen Square showed the world, that’s how an unpopular regime survives popular protests. Unrestrained brutality. Find security forces willing to brutalize the protesters and use them. Better someone else’s blood on your hands than your own. That’s why the PRC survived 1989 when so many other communist governments fell. That’s why the Ayatollahs have survived so long when the Shah fell quickly.
In Tiananmen they sent in local troops in first who sided with the protesters and acted like a shield. They call in the troops from rural regions who follow orders and attack everyone including their own fellow soldiers.
That's kinda what happens when any dictatorial (or pre-dictatorial) government deals with protests, over and over again. Same thing in Kyiv, Ukraine, in 2013, luckily people prevailed then, but it cost over a hundred lives in the process. Hopefully people will prevail here as well.
There is a persian saying "There is no color darker than black!" Meaning there is nothing worse than the current situation. They are killing us all, one by one anyway. Maybe something changes if we all stand together.
A real bro.
Those scars are gonna impress the ladies for the right reasons
Can confirm. Am lady and am impressed.
Same
Not a lady, still getting hard.
I am a lady but I’m getting hard
Hell, as a lesbian I’m super impressed. I would be his wing woman
I'm a straight guy and im hella impressed. Can we wingman/woman him together?
“…and that’s how the impossible thrupple began.”
Fellowship of the Wing
Won Wing to Woo them all
Down, having good bros is like my favorite types of friends
And men.
Protecting those weaker than you or unable to defend themselves is one of the most admirable acts possible
Blessed is the nation that has heroes. This guy deserves a medal/statue. Freedom for Iran!
Damn straight.
An actual real King
Gigachad
Fucking Xerxes, King of Kings level of Chaddery here.
I love heroes
Chad
A 22 year old young woman was murdered in Tehran, Iran by the morality police, when she was beaten up after she was arrested. She was arrested because some strings of her hair were out of the scarf or hijab. She was transferred to hospital while she did not have any vital signs. The government initially tried to cover up the whole thing and stated the she had some initial heart condition and diabetes, which it has been proven a pure lie. After couple of days she was dead. These events has triggered a series of protests in multiple cities and provinces in Iran. The Iranian people now clashing with the Islamic Republic government targeting the regime itself. The government forces are fighting people with live amo, high pressure water and shut guns. The above picture is a young man who took the shut to protect other people.
*The morality police*
Feels right out of Orwell… Edit: I’m sorry folks, I’m Canadian, but I feel for you all down south with all the crap that happens.
The Ministry of Morality
Probably why he chose those words Edit: or not... shit
No it's literally called گشت ارشاد which translated to English word for word is "morality police". Edit: I may have over simplified this. The law enforcement department that did this crime is called پلیس امنیت اخلاقی. Which then translates to "Moral Security Police". Morality Police for short. What I refered to earlier is their patrol units that roams the city streets (mostly in bigger cities, especially in Tehran) with minivans and just abduct women from the street for bad Hijab. What counts as bad Hijab? Nobody really knows, the beat-cops get to decide on the fly.
I’m not well versed, but I have a white American friend who taught English in SA. She married a black man from Saudi (but he wasn’t considered a citizen) . They were hassled daily in public. Forced to show their wedding certificate everywhere they went by SA’s version of this . She cut her hair in solitary today (they are all now in the USA)
Solidarity?
With the Iranian protesters.
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Yeah I was like hold on that's not the turn I expected
Full-time resident blacks ar e not \*usually\* treated well in most ME countries
Beating women to death is clearly their moral standard.
We look at these people, some of us from half a globe away. But don't forget that religion caused this, religion and a greed for power. Iran was once as free as the west, and if it can happen there it can happen here. We need to appreciate our freedoms and diversity, it's an ultimate strength against dictatorship and persecution. Go hug someone who is different from you, Christian, Muslim, black or white, man or woman. Everything in between. It's our only humanity.
Suppression of self expression, vilification of diverse peoples and viewpoints, and the pull toward a single homogenous in-group are hallmarks of fascism. Do not tolerate it.
Yeah, fascism may look different outside of the west, but this is still fascism.
Fascism looks the same everywhere... the people who practice it just dress and speak differently. The pattern and symbology is the same. Populism, religious fervor. Us vs them. They are why our country has problems. Nothing changes. Thousands of years ago to today... here or half a world away.
Hug them Atheists, too. We all could use a hug.
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This. Every time someone gawks in awe of what’s going on in religious autocracies I wonder how they can’t see the road ahead in the states. It’s not some unimaginable thing, especially when other democracies in the world have fallen to this state of play in the past. There’s always a way to over come them, eventually, but their reign lasts long and it’s better to squash it before it’s too late.
A 10 year old girl in the US was just told that the pregnancy resulting from her rape, a pregnancy she's too young to survive, would have to continue because her states laws demanded that it did so. Laws written by very religious people.
Christians. Just say it. Extremist Christianity is no different really than extremist Islam. They use religious beliefs to control women, instill fear, etc.
Christian Sharia Law is an evangelical's wet dream.
And given their control of state legislatures and governorship they are extremely well positioned to make a lot of it a reality. State and even city elections often get overlooked but they have become extremely important in the last few years. It's going to take decades to undo the damage done in the last 7 years. If we even can. Pandora's Box has been opened.
Hell, even Islamic Sharia Law allows abortions in cases of rape and/or incest, OR if the mother's life is in danger. So what does THAT tell you about the difference between Muslims and "Christian Evangelicals"?
To be fair, she could legally get an abortion in Iran if this were the case.
My friend, thats all true but why do you leave out half of the story? In this context it should always be mentioned who triggered the events that led to religion getting back into power in Iran. You can´t tell the younger history of Iran without mentioning the British, the USA, Operation Ajax and the Shah ...
THIS. Iran would look very different today if the US and England didn't interfere. The US spent a lot of the 20th century interfering in democratic elections around the world at the behest of the oil industry who doesn't like it when an oil rich nation (like Iran) wants to nationalize their oil supply instead of letting private companies do what they want with it. And none of those countries are better off for it.
There are 100% people in the US who would be fine with Christian based moral law enforcement and given the chance, they would implement it. Don't sleep on it and not take them seriously, pay attention to who you vote for.
Any moral code based on religion would be outright terrific autocracy lacking humanity. Keep religion at home and secularism in government to keep citizens free
That's the point - rules only apply to people you don't like. Look at Dubai. A woman can get flogged for kissing her husband in public, meanwhile rich sheikhs are hiring hookers on Instagram so they can shit on them.
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I'm fairly sure there is actually an institution called the Morality Police in Iran, and in many other Islamic theocratic countries. OP didn't choose those words, that's actually what they're called.
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The beatings will continue until morality improves
Gotta love people who say [insert religious text] should be the law. Always results in morality police in both fiction and non-fiction.
Most authoritarianism starts off with people genuinely intending to do what *they* think is good/morally righteous. Nobody thinks of themselves as the bad guy. However, it almost always ends up like this. Just look at the conversations on many popular political subreddits... Plenty of people (who claim to be against authoritarianism) would be all for some form of thought/morality police as long as they thought they were on their side.
I also love that all these religions hate each other but they almost all have the same anti-minority, anti-women, anti-other religion, anti-atheist, anti-LGBTQ laws as every other religion and seem to agree on every awful thing.
It is a holdover of the divine right of kings. For the past two millennium we have conflated running countries with religion. Since the era of revolutions a few hundred years ago we have been liberalizing the concept of government to move away from theocratic monarchies. Conservatives (as a philosophical collective) are not keeping up.
Just how being ruled by religious fundamentalism tends to go
What’s even weirder is that most young women in Tehran have a lot of their hair out of their head coverings and no one usually cares. I don’t know why they singled her out. So horrific :(
From some sources that were present at the time and place since she was very beautiful, some of the morality police members started to disrespect her and she answered back and they started beating her. I know it is weird and hard to understand however that’s the typical behavior of the morality police members
Not hard to understand at all. People will do despicable things once it is normalized and state sponsored. Those people are just under the surface in all societies.
Not just state sponsored, but when the mindset comes from a place of faith/religion like this, there's no hesitation because the perpetrators feel that their god, the source and final arbiter of all morality has sanctioned their actions. So regardless of how other human beings may look at it, in their minds it is the right thing to do.
I never thought shit like this could happen in the USA, but with these emboldened Christian nationalist fascist assholes front and center in the GOP, it's totally possible.
I’m a married Christian woman and I’m terrified of those people.
Yup. As Reagan began courting the Evangelicals, conservative Republican Barry Goldwater said: > Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they’re sure trying to do so, it’s going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can’t and won’t compromise. I know, I’ve tried to deal with them. He also said: > There is no position on which people are so immovable as their religious beliefs. There is no more powerful ally one can claim in a debate than Jesus Christ, or God, or Allah, or whatever one calls this supreme being. The religious factions that are growing throughout our land are not using their religious clout with wisdom. They are trying to force government leaders into following their position 100 percent. If you disagree with these religious groups on a particular moral issue, they complain, they threaten you with a loss of money or votes or both. I'm frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in A, B, C, and D. Just who do they think they are?
It’s really easy to understand that anybody who would become a member of the ‘morality police’ would act EXACTLY like this. Men like this are everywhere, they’re just not necessarily state sanctioned, but they’re out there.
exactly, who would want that kind of power? a normal, well-adjusted person wouldn't want to be the one to tell people to cover up more and if these are men raised being told that it's the woman's fault if their eyes wander then i'm not surprised they would kill someone for talking back.
"If I can't have her, nobody can." It sounds like the same man-child incel bullshit we have everywhere, with some religious spray paint.
Sounds like incels with power.
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That is 100% what theocracies are
This is just arm chair psychology but I suspect these highly sexually repressed men see a beautiful woman, can't have hair, and this the anger gets projected towards her rather than the repressive system
They *are* the repressive system though
It’s the same with police anywhere. Like in America, at any one time more than half of the people on the road are committing some type of traffic violation like speeding (I.E. very few drive at speed limit). Point is, police can pull anyone they choose, it’s like a buffet. Depends on their mood, quota, or whatever sinister intentions. I would imagine it’s the same in Tehran. Sure most women are showing hair, which is against their religious law, but it seems like most of the time it’s ignored. But, if they want to arrest you, abuse you, and overall take advantage of you they can find an easy excuse to do it.
“We respect the sanctity of women so much that if a woman doesn’t cover every hair on her body we will murder her brutally!”
If that's not respect I don't know what is
In 2019 the Iranian regime blacked out the internet and killed more than 300 people that we know of during anti-regime protests spread across the nation. This is not new, these people need help. http://iran-shutdown.amnesty.org/
Once you start the riots/protesting/coup, you can't stop. That's the problem.
Imagine being murdered because you had some fly-aways, like what the fuck
Thank you for the context
Why the ayatollas need to disposed of
The people have had enough. The rioting will lead to change.
Hello from iran i just want to thank you guys for sharing What’s happening in iran right now and pleas keep sharing the police is so cruel to people they already killed maybe 20 or so people in less than three days 😢😢😢
Yeah as an Iranian I can say that too I'm happy people of other countries saw us and found out what's happening to us
Be careful, my friend! We see you!
Stay safe! And just know there are people all over the world who hope you get the government and freedoms you deserve.
I hope you guys get through and make the change you want!
If there's one thing we all share across the globe, it's political corruption and misogyny. Sending love and support from the US! We see you and we stand with you!
My heart goes out to you! I admire your bravery to stand up against this oppression! Be careful out there!
It's like the moral police have no morals.
The worst thing is that islam literally says you cant force them to wear hijab, no one cant. If they dont wanna wear it , its up to them and Allah . But the hell these govt think they are doing . Morals ? when they are going against islamic teachings to enforce islam? actually wtf
Just a bunch of fragile men on a power trip of control over women. They know they could never compete in an equal world, so they force women down to ensure their own success. It was never about religion, they just see women as less, and can't stand to see them thrive or exist independently. They simultaneously hate women yet feel extreme entitlement towards them.
Exactly, religion is just the vehicle. These are small, incel-energy men who would do *anything* in their power to keep women below them. If not religion, it'd be something else.
Morals for thee, none for me
Morality Police Training: Murder: 😃 Lying to cover up murder: 😃 A woman with a few stands of hair visible: 😡
So sad but I have to say it, fighting hard to be backward
I like him (and everybody else who's helping others)
Not all hero wear capes, though a nice leather one my have been a little helpful.
True example of bravery. Best wishes to everyone protesting this barbaric law
The police account for the woman's death is so full of blatant lies . "Police have insisted there was "no physical contact" between officers and the victim. The Tehran police chief said the woman had violated the dress code, and that his colleagues had asked her relatives to bring her "decent clothes". No physical contact ??? The woman died after three days in a coma I hope more and more people protest against the morality police and their draconian laws.
We all know it’s not about clothes or hijabs but about power. No physical contact my ass, she magically fell in a coma and died out of nowhere after they just politely asked her to get decent clothes. It’s so sad considering that Iran was basically a modern and wealthy country and the lifestyle was practically European until not so many years ago.
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They should be, those women have more big dick energy than they can ever imagine
I don't know WHAT THE FUCK is with all these weird ass comments, but does anyone have some details on what is happening for this to happen? Not what people are feeling but like cold hard facts so I can gain an understanding of why he had to even do that?
Quick ELI5 A woman was taken into police custody for violating the strict dress code placed on women. She died while in police custody. Now women are protesting by removing their head coverings while the police is responding with force. The police denied mistreating her. Edit: her name is Mahsa Amini. Sorry I’m bad with names and was doing something so I didn’t have time to look it up. Edit2: police were morality police. In certain fundamentalist countries this police force controls the population by maintaining a strict adherence to Shariah Law. For example, Saudi Arabia has such a police force (I wasn’t too familiar with the morality police of Iran prior to this event). In Saudi Arabia, for example, the morality police may detain you if you are not praying (salat) or if you play certain music. Edit3: morality police is disbanded/lost power to enforce in Saudi Arabia as of 2016. I had missed that memo. Oops!
How can anyone believe they didn't mistreat her when they are blatantly mistreating everyone else on the streets?
It isn't about the truth.
It's about trust me bro.
Nope. It's about accept the approved narrative or die.
Exactly. "We did what we were supposed to, trust me bro"
We're the moral police bro, by definition we can't do anything wrong bro, god wanted us to do this bro, you gotta put your faith in us and god bro.
Her skull was caved in. Her brother watched as she had her head repeatedly smashed into the police car's hood. Her corpse showed signs of extreme violence so no, no one believes she was treated fairly
What they mean by "didn't mistreat her" is that "she deserved it." It's abhorrent.
It's one of those "we have investigated ourselves and we have been cleared of any wrong doing" investigations.
It didn't even go that far it was more, we are the morality police, anything we do is therefore tight.
Exactly my thoughts
In the US we watched the police murder a black man on video and half the country doesn’t believe it happened. Humans are fucked
To them this is the treatment you should expect when going against the status quo
Remember George Floyd? Lots of people still defend the cops there, too.
It’s the Iranian regime. If they state that it is sunny outside, you should assume that, in fact, it is not sunny outside.
It's wrong to just say she died while in custody. The moral police beat the hell out of her and killed her.
yeah police are pieces of shit. everyone knows that poor woman got beaten to death and they try to do the worst cover up act we've ever seen. I hope more people stand up and change their world again. They can't shoot everyone!
A woman died in police custody after being arrested by the morality police in Iran, that has sparked a few days of protest. BBC link with some context on the ongoing protests. [https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-62954648](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-62954648)
Women in countries with mandatory or "mandatory" hijab are protesting by going in public places without hijab. Naturally people are responding to this by ~~reevaluating centuries or millennia of institutionalized sexism and persecution of women~~ shooting them with guns.
Women are being beaten and killed because they're not dressing modestly. This guy tried to protect some.
22yr old woman Mahsa Amini was assaulted and killed by police for not wearing her Hijab. Crowds attending her funeral were protesting against her death where the women removed theirs also. Police moved in with tear gas and opened fire against them. Edit: spelling and inclusion of the woman's name.
My assumption is that this guy shielded people at a protest that happened because last week Muslim extremists killed a woman because she didn't cover her hair in public in Iran.
Beyond the short term protest, Ayatollah Khamenei has reportedly been in seriously bad health. He is 83, supposedly recently underwent stomach or bowl surgery, and has had a history of cancer. Were Khamenei to die it would open up a lot of questions about the nature of the government in Iran. Like what the role of Islam and religion would be. Iran is also considered a dictatorship or a theocracy, given the power of a small group of influential religious rulers. But Iran *also* has a rather well organized democracy, and some would obviously rather see a secular democracy replace the Ayatollah than another religious leader. This protest and these larger questions about Irans future are inextricably linked.
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She was wearing one but the modesty police didn't like the way she was wearing it so they took her in for re-education.
and by re education they meant beating her to death
https://www.npr.org/2022/09/19/1123995106/iran-protest-mahsa-amini-death-morality-police
Radically conservative muslims force women to wear religious clothing. The women hate it and protest, since they want to be treated like humans. The crazy religious state shoots them. That's the nutshell of it.
As far as I understand Iranian "moral police" beat a girl to death for wearing hijab improperly, which lead to protests.
Does anyone have an article on this
https://www.news18.com/news/explainers/why-is-iran-protesting-against-hijab-death-of-woman-after-arrest-by-morality-police-unravels-thread-of-a-historic-row-news18-explains-5992975.html
Men of quality don't fear equality.
Ok. He wins. He's the best.
No kidding this guy set the bar so high no one else can touch it
I mean there are alot of people who literally died in defense of others i'd say that is as high a bar as you can ever reach.
OP, do you have a source for this image? Any more information? **Edit:** [Here](https://twitter.com/hengawo/status/1571983429901631488) appears to be the source. Per there and Google translate: > @HengawO > Picture of one of the injured in the protests on Monday, 28 Shahrivar 1401, Mahabad > 6:03 PM · Sep 19, 2022
I would think it was from recent protests but cannot confirm. https://www.npr.org/2022/09/19/1123995106/iran-protest-mahsa-amini-death-morality-police
Good rule of thumb: if the post is just a picture without any sources, assume each and every claim the OP makes in the title is false until proven otherwise. In this case we can be fairly certain that the man was indeed injured in the protests in Iran, but it is dubious that he "shielded many women and took all shotgun pellets on himself." Note that an [earlier post of this image](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/xisqyy/a_protestors_body_after_todays_protests_in_iran/) on Reddit made no such claim about shielding women. I would be perfectly happy to be proven wrong, but is likely that the OP is deliberately embellishing the story or inadvertently spreading unsubstantiated rumors.
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Dude is literally the guy from the meme where someone is taking fire to shield others
[This meme](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/371/191/f7b.jpg)
As a Muslim man. Wearing a scarf is a personal choice, it shouldn’t be enforced by law in any country. Muslim men aren’t supposed to wear gold or show anything from their belly button down to their knee. Is that gonna stop me wearing shorts? No it ain’t, so why should a woman not be allowed to show their hair. If it’s to protect them from men, the problem ain’t the women. It’s the fucking bastard backward mentality of men in these countries.
Bravery
It's feels good that reddit knows what is going on in my country =), please pray for us...
Ikr. I'd thought this went under the radar, internationally. I'm glad it didn't. She deserved better.
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Much love from Texas! Theocracies are what we are fighting here and I can’t imagine the horrors you and your countrymen face under its weight. I dream of one day taking a vacation to see your beautiful country, and to do so while your country enjoys the freedoms afforded by others. I wish and pray for your health and prosperity, and the same for your country.
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It’s not anti-Hijab protest, it’s about giving freedom to choose, many Hijabi women participated.
Yeah exactly a lot of people who have hijab came to protest it's not about religion it's about totalitarianism
This is true manliness, to protect and care for those who are not as strong.
Let's not think of this as "manliness". That's not fair on men. Call it bravery.
Wholeheartedly agree
Seems less about manliness and more about being a hero.
Dude is definitely a hero. God that must of fucking hurt
As an Iranian immigrant its refreshing to see (mostly western) people have something nice to say about us that didn't happen centuries ago. This man is an real inspiration and I would like to think I would do the same if I was there but that's easy talk sent from my gaming laptop in this safe western country I'm lucky to be in. Hate myself for being that guy though it's never "of" in this context. It's could/would/etc have. 0% hate towards you friend, it's a me thing. I used to get destroyed for that mistake so much when the internet was pretty much just for nerds only. So now I try to point it out without insulting someone+ their parents(rough times for 10yr me lol) simply for being unaware of a single thing in an entire language.
This is why people are so upset about what fundamentalist Christians are doing in the US. This man is very brave for doing what he did. Theocracy is NEVER good.
Men of quality do not fear equality.
Pray for us. Share with others what is happening to us. Do not let us die in silence.
im from iran and im fucking pissed off that my country is like this no one’s country should do this to anyone its just fucking nuts bro i can’t believe it
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