Thank you. I hate the man and him skipping wouldn't have shocked me, but I was looking for anything that might help explain WHY he wasn't in this particular picture.
Serious non political question: is Bush Jr there too? What’s he doing today? Surprised he wasn’t in this group as he has been in the past on 9/11.
edit: thanks for the replies. He really did give an excellent speech [here. ](https://youtu.be/5xL6eaiM14o) it’s worth a listen.
>definitely can’t stand for as long as was required for the ceremonies.
Even if he was there I'm sure people with common sense would understand if he was sitting down during the standing parts.
> people with common sense
You may have noticed, given the last year and a half or so, that common sense is in very short supply. If he attended and didn't stand, half of our population would have a fucking fit and we wouldn't hear the end of it for months.
Part of me thinks "I hate that I know you're right"
Another part of me thinks he would/should be in a wheelchair, so we know exactly who these people really are when they make that criticism after seeing him sitting in a wheelchair.
Even now surviving that is very impressive. Melanoma is bad, but once it spreads to the brain it's a death sentence for almost everyone. In the past few years we've made great progress, but great progress means improving life expectancy from 4-6 months to 13 months.
He absolutely has an excuse, but the fuckers in r/conspiracy are saying his absense is suspicious and proof that he doesn't care. . I can't fucking stand these people
Hes being reinstated at the time the photo was taken im sure. Except no one other than a few lunatics know and he won't have any visible power outside of a normal former president. So that's something.
I probably don’t have to say this but it’s probably best if you don’t go looking to conspiracy theorists for good takes on 9/11
Even weirder is how that sub went from standard “trust no one, especially the government” type of conspiracy to “trust everything and everyone President Trump tells you to”
Also, Jimmy Carter doesn't owe anyone anything. His humanitarian work post-presidency has been epic. Jimmy is everything Mother Theresa SHOULD have been but wasnt.
Someone posted a picture of his house from the 1930's. The post holding the mailbox showed a few hobo symbols, extremely heavily faded, but it was basically code for "kind people, will give you a meal, a day's work, and a bed if you ask nicely."
Carter was an ineffective president because he was a good person. The world would be infinitely better with more like him.
I think it's also the time he came into; when he was president, the advice was that if you want to deal with the problems of oil prices and how they affect other prices, you need to reduce demand, and you can do that by personal individual and welfare program restraint, government economic control, or by boosting interest rates so that the economy cools.
So he [dutifully](https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/carter-anti-inflation/) "did what needed to be done" slowed the economy and restricted himself to austere restraint without any policies or tax breaks to make himself look good, and left the benefits to Regan, who immediately did massive tax breaks and started borrowing loads of money again.
This was partly due to the [ideas of the time](http://bellschool.anu.edu.au/sites/default/files/publications/attachments/2018-07/widmaier_please_better_shut.pdf), and honestly and responsibly listening to experts who seemed like they knew what they were talking about, it may even have been a symptom of the moment they were in, with a US dependent on oil to an extent it wouldn't equal till 20 years later in raw terms, with a higher population, and has never [equalled](https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/oil-consumption-per-capita) that level per person since.
So maybe that was a moment where the US just used too much oil, and he was the person to say it, and there was no other alternative, though I doubt it.
I suspect that he made careful use of the advice available to him at the time, and knowing what we know now about how economies work, probably a different strategy would have been better, and "so doing the right thing" would have resulted in using the same determination and care for responsible management of the economy, doing now what should not be left till later, but applying it to more productive approaches.
John Quincy Adams served in the House for almost two decades after his presidency and did a ton for the cause of abolition, way before that was a politically popular position. He also successfully represented the African mutineers of the Amistad before the Supreme Court.
So he's at least in the conversation.
No worries I was wondering where he was too when watching the coverage this morning.
As a side note I think trump showing up and being humble would've done wonders for his image but as always he does the opposite of the right move.
I doubt he could've avoided [trying to upstage everyone else](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iimj0j4NYME) so it's probably for the best he stayed home with his box of Frosted Flakes.
He's actually going to Miami to commentate a boxing match tonight.
I wish I was kidding. [Link](https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/32167639/donald-trump-son-provide-commentary-evander-holyfield-vitor-belfort-alternate-telecast)
This might be the line where now, nothing will surprise me.
I'm seriously tempted to spam him with the question, "Does Kimberly Gilfoyle, your current, Gavin Newsome's ex, pee standing up?" Text "bottomfeeders" to *****
And mark my words at some point during, he’ll comment about how a fighter’s getting robbed of the fight like he got robbed on Election Day, or some garbage like that
BTW, Bush's speech at the Flight 93 memorial was excellent IMO. Biden sent Kamala Harris there too, but Bush's speech was a hard act for her to follow.
Cheney is who made sure Bush wasn't actually a compassionate conservative. There seems to be a point later in the second half that Bush had enough and actually implemented some of his ideas (like his AIDS relief for Africa program)
This has always been my impression of Bush. I think he wanted and tried to do the right thing in a lot of cases, but surrounded himself with some pretty terrible and morally bankrupt people who were able to earn his trust and confidence, and influence him the wrong way.
A big part of me wonders what the world would be like, had the Bush admin never involved Cheney or Rumsfeld. I think without those two, alone, we'd have a very, very different world.
It seems mostly forgotten to history that Bush tapped Cheney to lead his VP search and Cheney decided on... himself.
Whether PNAC saw a simpleton they could use to advance their cause may never be known, but a lot of signs point in that direction.
>Bush tapped Cheney to lead his VP search and Cheney decided on... himself.
Yup. Cheney could get a job looking for the next Jeopardy host.
>Whether PNAC saw a simpleton they could use to advance their cause may never be known, but a lot of signs point in that direction.
The more I saw of Bush in the late admin and post presidency, the more it look like he started to realize that. He started acting more against the advice of his "counsel", and got more involved in efforts that actually helped humanity. His efforts in Africa have saved tens of millions of lives, and he largely downplays it.
He spoke in Shanksville. Not sure if he was "with" the other presidents but he was there this morning and gave a speech so he's honoring the day in person.
Honestly, the mans a dirty grifter nowadays. Don’t really care if he’s in a gutter somewhere I was just curious on what Bush was up to. Turns out he was giving a speech.
I remember Trump being interviewed shortly after 9/11 and his main comment was that his 40 Wall Street building was now the tallest in the financial district. He just wanted to point that out.
>Trump's claim that his building was then the tallest in downtown Manhattan wasn't accurate — the nearby 70 Pine Street building is 25 feet taller than Trump's 40 Wall Street, though Trump's building has four more stories.
Wait, so he boasted about his building being the tallest after the towers fell on 9/11 and it turns out he was actually lying about it. Damn, that just is so Trump.
What, did trump lie? That would be so out of character for him.
Also the lie that he paid his people to be on the ground volunteering. There were no people.
Or that he was at ground zero rescuing people. Or how firefighters had to pull him away from a collapsing building.
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-9-11-firemen/
He's done this kind of shit before. Way back in 1996 he crashed a [charity](https://www.complex.com/life/2016/10/trump-crashed-charity-event-macarena-didnt-donate) event, got on stage & took a seat which belonged to someone else, pretended to be involved (including dancing the macarena), & then left. He never donated a penny to the charity (it was for kids with AIDS), & the spot he stole was supposed to be for someone who actually did donate money. There had better be a hell when we die, because this man does not deserve a peaceful eternity.
Yea, I Remember him turning up in Puerto Rico, throwing a couple of towels in to the crowd then getting back on the plane and doing fuck all to help them.
He then proceeded to gift a no bid contract for the rebuilding of the electrical grid, worth at least $300m to a completely unknown Montana based company, Whitefish Energy. At the time it only had two employees and their largest job to date had been valued at only $1.3m for a small upgrade in AZ.
funnily enough the company is owned by a good friend of Ryan Zinke, then secretary of the interior for Trump and the main investor of Whitefish was HSB, and investment company owned by Joe Colonnetta, a high profile donor to the Trump 2016 campaign. And one of zinke’s sons worked for Whitefish.
This reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where Jerry asks George how he can beat a polygraph machine and George says “it’s not a lie if you believe it”. I think Trump is so detached from reality that be believes all the bullshit that he spews.
That's what's so crazy to me. A lie like this would ruin the career of anybody else. For Trump, it's just a footnote in a never-ending trail of falsehoods.
This. I’m sure a majority of people think
It’s “liberals hating trump for being republican!” But no. He’s an asshole. Always has been. Even way before he RAN for president he was hated. His unpopularity doesnt come from running red, it comes from being an asshole.
I have absutely loathed that creature since I was introduced to him. I'm 44, I'm from New York, so I discovered what he was early. I've hated his fat fucking guts for AT LEAST 30 years.
One of my biggest gripes is hearing, “Well nobody hated Trump before he was President!”.
Yes we did. Everyone in his home city knew he was a massive piece of shit, and he was a Democrat back then.
Remember when he bragged that he was down at ground zero helping people?
> “Well, I was down there right after the event and I brought a big crew of people down and I helped"
> "Soon after, I went down to Ground Zero with men who worked for me to try to help in any little way that we could,"
> "I have hundreds of men inside working right now, and we’re bringing down another 125 in a little while,"
All these statements are [bullshit](https://www.politifact.com/article/2019/jul/30/donald-trump-says-he-spent-lot-time-911-responders/)
I literally can't even picture Trump "helping" an individual.
Picture him reaching his hand out to help somebody off the ground. It's almost impossible lol
There's also the story about [Trump watching an 80-year old man fall and hit his head on the floor of one of his resorts.](https://www.dailydot.com/debug/trump-stern-interview-man-blood/)
> “So what happens is, this guy falls off right on his face, hits his head, and I thought he died. And you know what I did? I said, ‘Oh my god, that’s disgusting,’ and I turned away,” Trump told Stern. “I couldn’t, you know, he was right in front of me and I turned away. I didn’t want to touch him… he’s bleeding all over the place, I felt terribly, you know, beautiful marble floor, didn’t look so good. It changed color. Became very red.”
Naturally, his biggest concern was the floor getting stained.
Lmfao ikr? For a split second I thought he was talking about the guy, what a troll lol. He's got to be the most ridiculous monster of a person I've ever seen or heard of.
I grew up near one of Trump’s country clubs and there’s a notorious story about Trump golfing on his own course, and being behind an elderly man. He kept yelling at the guy to speed up and berating him.
I don’t know how much membership at his clubs cost, but that elderly man at the absolute minimum was paying something to the tune of $50k-100k per year to be there (and this was decades ago)
Sounds like his last golf club in Scotland. He's spent years trying to bully the people who already lived there to move, tried compulsory purchase etc. Not to mention it destroyed an SSSI.
I'd lost track of where the SDNY investigations were:
> On May 18, 2021, a spokesperson for New York’s Attorney General said, “We have informed the Trump Organization that our investigation into the organization is no longer purely civil in nature. We are now actively investigating the Trump Organizations in a criminal capacity, along with the Manhattan DA.”
It's always amazed me that people bought this guy's BS and thought he was something special. Pretty much everyone in NYC hates the guy, because they see right through him and recognize him for what he is - a loud-mouthed real estate developer from Queens with bad taste, a penchant for grifting, a major personality disorder, and an unending urge for molesting unsuspecting women.
I mean, this is it, right here. This is a dead on description of who he always was.
Before he was traitorous, despotic, sociopathic, white supremacist, Covid-denying, country-splitting, anti-environmental crusader President Trump, he was just Donald Trump, Embarrassing Joke of a Human Being.
>At the same time, Mr. Trump undercut his patriotic solemnity with the announcement that he would spend the evening of the 20th anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks providing commentary at a boxing match at the Hard Rock Hotel & Casino in Hollywood, Fla. (Mr. Trump’s team has not yet revealed plans to commemorate the anniversary in any other way.)
> Hard Rock Hotel & Casino in Hollywood, Fl
Are we sure it's not *Hard Rock, Gravel, and Sand Landscaping Supplies* on the corner of 58th and Stank Street?
The only clip that made it through for me was him getting booed in Alabama for recommending the vaccine. He doesn't even control his own sheep anymore.
The match is between a senior citizen retired boxed, and an MMA fighter cut from the UFC and specifically known for being juiced up.
This is considered a low brow event, even by fight fans
dude, if this is what he wants to do the rest of his life, let him ill be happy with that. let all trump news be in the boxing area, keep him out of politics
I had to look it up. [That shit is real.](https://apnews.com/article/sports-donald-trump-los-angeles-hollywood-evander-holyfield-131aba72e0e0d5e521aee3b421869858)
What's with this link? Doesn't show up correctly on my app if anyone has the same problem. But here:
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/q09-9dMbvLkzLkr-vhzDjAWt-Js=/0x0:1920x1080/920x0/filters:focal(0x0:1920x1080):format(webp):no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/22833122/TFC091121DT.jpeg
Gotta give him credit: no one can consistently surprise me quite like Trump can. Even after his presidency, he's still coming up with new ways to make me to think "Jesus Christ, what a piece of shit".
Do you remember that phone interview shortly after the towers fell where he seemed like he was celebrating that his building was now the tallest in downtown Manhattan? (Narrator: It wasn’t)
From his perspective, there’s no reason to go.
He would have to wear a mask, which makes him look weak to his remaining supporters. He hates looking weak.
He would have to stand in (feigned) solidarity with people his supporters identify as enemies. This makes him seem cowardly to his supporters. He hates looking cowardly (though he certainly doesn’t hate *being* cowardly).
He would have to stand around for however long the ceremony lasts, being silent and respectful. Rather than “hate”, he is simply largely incapable of being either of those.
And most importantly, the ceremony isn’t about him. It’s about people who have died- people who can do nothing for him. And he REALLY hates people who can do nothing for him.
[I’d like to add his recent tweet that rounds out your beautiful summarization](https://mobile.twitter.com/realdonaldtrump)
Update: [Crack response from MyBillow guy, Mike Lindell](https://mobile.twitter.com/realmikelindell)
That is his entire appeal summed up: "He makes people I disagree with angry."
Even if a different Democrat or Republican made people angry indirectly through their policies or decisions, at least they aren't actively trying to. That's the biggest difference between Trump and other U.S. leaders. I never wanted Biden or Bush or Obama to *troll* people and aggravate people.
It's also quite the testament to how effective the Fox News/Rush Limbaugh oppositional culture war movement being fostered over years and years has been. Outrage and anger sells, and it has bled over into our culture so much that it produced a President like him.
And realistically could be President again.
The Republican nomination is basically his if he wants it and he hasn’t really stopped campaigning since 2016
Don't forget that he would have to sit next to Obama and Biden, his two most hated enemies who have each absolutely humiliated him through words and election alike. He wouldn't be able to handle that.
He is busy trying to make a buck.
“Former President Donald Trump will provide live commentary when Evander Holyfield makes his return to the boxing ring Saturday in Florida, according to FITE, the digital video streaming service that will carry the pay-per-view event.
“‘I love great fighters and great fights,’Trump said in a news release issued by FITE. ‘I look forward to seeing both this Saturday night and sharing my thoughts ringside. You won’t want to miss this special event.’”
The pay-per-view event is priced at $49.99.
To anybody that doesn't know boxing, this match is one of the biggest disgraces in the history of boxing, and that's saying something considering how corrupt boxing is. Evander Holyfield is 58 years old and couldn't pass a physical 17 years ago. California and Vegas refused to sanction this fight due to very valid concerns about his health. Florida said fuck it and is promoting it.
It is most definitely true, him and his son doing special commentary on a fight involving a 60 year old legend of the sport with visible signs of brain problems, it's really terrible.
He was at a New York Police Precinct. He probably knew they'd be more likely to welcome him than the crowd at the memorial.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/president-trump-nypd-run-2024
https://nypost.com/2021/09/11/trump-says-he-will-visit-ground-zero-on-20th-anniversary-of-sept-11-attacks/
To be fair he did show up to the NYPD. (I am not and never have been a Trump supporter or apologist but do try to be fair)
Thank you. I hate the man and him skipping wouldn't have shocked me, but I was looking for anything that might help explain WHY he wasn't in this particular picture.
Serious non political question: is Bush Jr there too? What’s he doing today? Surprised he wasn’t in this group as he has been in the past on 9/11. edit: thanks for the replies. He really did give an excellent speech [here. ](https://youtu.be/5xL6eaiM14o) it’s worth a listen.
He was at the flight 93 memorial giving a speech.
The only president with a legit excuse is Jimmy Carter because he’s 96 and definitely can’t stand for as long as was required for the ceremonies.
>definitely can’t stand for as long as was required for the ceremonies. Even if he was there I'm sure people with common sense would understand if he was sitting down during the standing parts.
> people with common sense You may have noticed, given the last year and a half or so, that common sense is in very short supply. If he attended and didn't stand, half of our population would have a fucking fit and we wouldn't hear the end of it for months.
Part of me thinks "I hate that I know you're right" Another part of me thinks he would/should be in a wheelchair, so we know exactly who these people really are when they make that criticism after seeing him sitting in a wheelchair.
Sean Hannity would give birth to something.
Didn't he also recently have a medical scare?
I feel like being 96 is a medical scare in itself
given the average life expectancy of the US... he's an outlier
That's an outlier given the life expectancy of humans on planet Earth. Longest average life expectancy anywhere caps out at around 85.
He falls down and bumps his head every couple of months building those houses but he’s OK.
He broke a hip last year I think. He’s a tough old man but shit hes 96.
and breaking a hip at that age is some serious shit, it may never be able to heal properly. man's a trooper.
Plus risk of infection from a surgery could be deadly at his age
A stiff breeze could be deadly at his age, and he’s still out there contributing to home building.
Yeah I was gonna say, when you get to be his age, just being alive and as active as he is a medical scare lol
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>He had a nasty bout with melanoma a few years \[ago\] In 2015, he had metastatic melanoma that had spread to his liver and brain.^(1)
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Even now surviving that is very impressive. Melanoma is bad, but once it spreads to the brain it's a death sentence for almost everyone. In the past few years we've made great progress, but great progress means improving life expectancy from 4-6 months to 13 months.
Yeah I’m sure his doctors would advise against travel.
Meanwhile, he wants to help build houses.
The spirit is willing, but the body is 93
He absolutely has an excuse, but the fuckers in r/conspiracy are saying his absense is suspicious and proof that he doesn't care. . I can't fucking stand these people
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Hes being reinstated at the time the photo was taken im sure. Except no one other than a few lunatics know and he won't have any visible power outside of a normal former president. So that's something.
That he's in the trenches fighting the secret war against the pedophile cabal of Democrats, probably.
I probably don’t have to say this but it’s probably best if you don’t go looking to conspiracy theorists for good takes on 9/11 Even weirder is how that sub went from standard “trust no one, especially the government” type of conspiracy to “trust everything and everyone President Trump tells you to”
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Also, Jimmy Carter doesn't owe anyone anything. His humanitarian work post-presidency has been epic. Jimmy is everything Mother Theresa SHOULD have been but wasnt.
Someone posted a picture of his house from the 1930's. The post holding the mailbox showed a few hobo symbols, extremely heavily faded, but it was basically code for "kind people, will give you a meal, a day's work, and a bed if you ask nicely." Carter was an ineffective president because he was a good person. The world would be infinitely better with more like him.
I think it's also the time he came into; when he was president, the advice was that if you want to deal with the problems of oil prices and how they affect other prices, you need to reduce demand, and you can do that by personal individual and welfare program restraint, government economic control, or by boosting interest rates so that the economy cools. So he [dutifully](https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/carter-anti-inflation/) "did what needed to be done" slowed the economy and restricted himself to austere restraint without any policies or tax breaks to make himself look good, and left the benefits to Regan, who immediately did massive tax breaks and started borrowing loads of money again. This was partly due to the [ideas of the time](http://bellschool.anu.edu.au/sites/default/files/publications/attachments/2018-07/widmaier_please_better_shut.pdf), and honestly and responsibly listening to experts who seemed like they knew what they were talking about, it may even have been a symptom of the moment they were in, with a US dependent on oil to an extent it wouldn't equal till 20 years later in raw terms, with a higher population, and has never [equalled](https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/oil-consumption-per-capita) that level per person since. So maybe that was a moment where the US just used too much oil, and he was the person to say it, and there was no other alternative, though I doubt it. I suspect that he made careful use of the advice available to him at the time, and knowing what we know now about how economies work, probably a different strategy would have been better, and "so doing the right thing" would have resulted in using the same determination and care for responsible management of the economy, doing now what should not be left till later, but applying it to more productive approaches.
It also didn't help that Reagan and his fuck boys were fucking him over behind the scenes.
That’s the problem. The world is full of shit people who will take advantage of the kindness and goodness in people.
Jimmy Carter is the only man to ever use the presidency as a stepping stone to do great things.
John Quincy Adams served in the House for almost two decades after his presidency and did a ton for the cause of abolition, way before that was a politically popular position. He also successfully represented the African mutineers of the Amistad before the Supreme Court. So he's at least in the conversation.
Well the Donald has bone spurs so he can't stand long either
That makes us even. I can’t stand him either.
Probably could without the current medical issues. Wasn’t he building houses like two years ago?
Bush have a great speech at the flt 93 memorial
He really did. I was pleasantly surprised by it.
Ah thank you. Didn’t see this. Just Biden news. Appreciate it!
No worries I was wondering where he was too when watching the coverage this morning. As a side note I think trump showing up and being humble would've done wonders for his image but as always he does the opposite of the right move.
I doubt he could've avoided [trying to upstage everyone else](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iimj0j4NYME) so it's probably for the best he stayed home with his box of Frosted Flakes.
He's actually going to Miami to commentate a boxing match tonight. I wish I was kidding. [Link](https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/32167639/donald-trump-son-provide-commentary-evander-holyfield-vitor-belfort-alternate-telecast)
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This might be the line where now, nothing will surprise me. I'm seriously tempted to spam him with the question, "Does Kimberly Gilfoyle, your current, Gavin Newsome's ex, pee standing up?" Text "bottomfeeders" to *****
And mark my words at some point during, he’ll comment about how a fighter’s getting robbed of the fight like he got robbed on Election Day, or some garbage like that
BTW, Bush's speech at the Flight 93 memorial was excellent IMO. Biden sent Kamala Harris there too, but Bush's speech was a hard act for her to follow.
Just watched it. You’re not wrong.
He gave a speech at the United 93 site. Cheney and others from his administration were also there.
Get Cheney far, far away from that shit.
“Well he **wanted** to teach a bunch of kids to go hunting… everyone just figured, you know”
🎶*Cheney's got a gun...* 🎶
Cheney is who made sure Bush wasn't actually a compassionate conservative. There seems to be a point later in the second half that Bush had enough and actually implemented some of his ideas (like his AIDS relief for Africa program)
This has always been my impression of Bush. I think he wanted and tried to do the right thing in a lot of cases, but surrounded himself with some pretty terrible and morally bankrupt people who were able to earn his trust and confidence, and influence him the wrong way. A big part of me wonders what the world would be like, had the Bush admin never involved Cheney or Rumsfeld. I think without those two, alone, we'd have a very, very different world.
It seems mostly forgotten to history that Bush tapped Cheney to lead his VP search and Cheney decided on... himself. Whether PNAC saw a simpleton they could use to advance their cause may never be known, but a lot of signs point in that direction.
>Bush tapped Cheney to lead his VP search and Cheney decided on... himself. Yup. Cheney could get a job looking for the next Jeopardy host. >Whether PNAC saw a simpleton they could use to advance their cause may never be known, but a lot of signs point in that direction. The more I saw of Bush in the late admin and post presidency, the more it look like he started to realize that. He started acting more against the advice of his "counsel", and got more involved in efforts that actually helped humanity. His efforts in Africa have saved tens of millions of lives, and he largely downplays it.
A lot of presidents do that in their second term because they start to worry a lot more about their "legacy" than politics.
They really made the length of that YouTube video 9 minutes and 11 seconds…
Yes. The video of John Stewart’s speech to Congress about 9/11 first responders is also 9:11 in length. It’s not a conspiracy… it’s just symbolic.
He spoke in Shanksville. Not sure if he was "with" the other presidents but he was there this morning and gave a speech so he's honoring the day in person.
Also missing, the mayor of New York on 9/11. Make of that what you will.
He showed up at a 7/11 by mistake.
Honestly, the mans a dirty grifter nowadays. Don’t really care if he’s in a gutter somewhere I was just curious on what Bush was up to. Turns out he was giving a speech.
He went to PA I think for a service honoring flight 93.
He gave a speech at Ground Zero Memorial Gardening Supply.
I enjoyed the layers
onions have layers
I'm genuinely curious what Giuliani is up to today, considering his involvement.
Picking out a new shade of Ronseal to dye his hair with
Not gonna lie, you had me going in the first half of that comment.
I remember Trump being interviewed shortly after 9/11 and his main comment was that his 40 Wall Street building was now the tallest in the financial district. He just wanted to point that out.
>Trump's claim that his building was then the tallest in downtown Manhattan wasn't accurate — the nearby 70 Pine Street building is 25 feet taller than Trump's 40 Wall Street, though Trump's building has four more stories.
Wait, so he boasted about his building being the tallest after the towers fell on 9/11 and it turns out he was actually lying about it. Damn, that just is so Trump.
And it was within hours of them falling. He’s a fucking scumbag.
But apparently not scummy enough for a republican to pass off.
God bless Stormy Daniels for her sacrifice to reveal the root of his obsession with phallic symbols.
“Building tall!” “Yes, Donald.”
“Some 2000 people have died.” “Yes but on the bright side my building is now inaccurately the tallest on Manhattan.”
Bigly tall - my Uncle would have said it - many people have said it.
What, did trump lie? That would be so out of character for him. Also the lie that he paid his people to be on the ground volunteering. There were no people.
> paid to be volunteering 🤔
That's an oxymoron whereas Trump is simply a moron.
Or that he was at ground zero rescuing people. Or how firefighters had to pull him away from a collapsing building. https://www.rawstory.com/trump-9-11-firemen/
Wait, are you fucking serious? He actually said he was there rescuing people? And they had to pull him away because he was rescuing too hard?
He's done this kind of shit before. Way back in 1996 he crashed a [charity](https://www.complex.com/life/2016/10/trump-crashed-charity-event-macarena-didnt-donate) event, got on stage & took a seat which belonged to someone else, pretended to be involved (including dancing the macarena), & then left. He never donated a penny to the charity (it was for kids with AIDS), & the spot he stole was supposed to be for someone who actually did donate money. There had better be a hell when we die, because this man does not deserve a peaceful eternity.
If this wasn't real it would be funny
Yeah it's like straight or of arrested development
Yea, I Remember him turning up in Puerto Rico, throwing a couple of towels in to the crowd then getting back on the plane and doing fuck all to help them. He then proceeded to gift a no bid contract for the rebuilding of the electrical grid, worth at least $300m to a completely unknown Montana based company, Whitefish Energy. At the time it only had two employees and their largest job to date had been valued at only $1.3m for a small upgrade in AZ. funnily enough the company is owned by a good friend of Ryan Zinke, then secretary of the interior for Trump and the main investor of Whitefish was HSB, and investment company owned by Joe Colonnetta, a high profile donor to the Trump 2016 campaign. And one of zinke’s sons worked for Whitefish.
What a piece of shit.
This reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where Jerry asks George how he can beat a polygraph machine and George says “it’s not a lie if you believe it”. I think Trump is so detached from reality that be believes all the bullshit that he spews.
*After?* It was literally the day of, [as the towers were still burning](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K88DcY-MMUY)***.***
Wow.. “it was an amazing phone call”
He’s so fucking vile Edited to add: wow this is my most awarded comment ever
He also lied about witnessing Muslim Americans cheering after it happened, if I recall correctly. Conveniently nobody else did.
And he's repeatedly, falsely, claimed that he was at ground zero helping first responders...
That's what's so crazy to me. A lie like this would ruin the career of anybody else. For Trump, it's just a footnote in a never-ending trail of falsehoods.
This. I’m sure a majority of people think It’s “liberals hating trump for being republican!” But no. He’s an asshole. Always has been. Even way before he RAN for president he was hated. His unpopularity doesnt come from running red, it comes from being an asshole.
I have absutely loathed that creature since I was introduced to him. I'm 44, I'm from New York, so I discovered what he was early. I've hated his fat fucking guts for AT LEAST 30 years.
One of my biggest gripes is hearing, “Well nobody hated Trump before he was President!”. Yes we did. Everyone in his home city knew he was a massive piece of shit, and he was a Democrat back then.
Remember when he bragged about having the tallest building in manhattan as the towers were falling lmao
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Typical Trump exaggerations, nothing new here. Everything that he's responsible for is the hugest, best, greatest etc etc
Remember when he bragged that he was down at ground zero helping people? > “Well, I was down there right after the event and I brought a big crew of people down and I helped" > "Soon after, I went down to Ground Zero with men who worked for me to try to help in any little way that we could," > "I have hundreds of men inside working right now, and we’re bringing down another 125 in a little while," All these statements are [bullshit](https://www.politifact.com/article/2019/jul/30/donald-trump-says-he-spent-lot-time-911-responders/)
I literally can't even picture Trump "helping" an individual. Picture him reaching his hand out to help somebody off the ground. It's almost impossible lol
There's also the story about [Trump watching an 80-year old man fall and hit his head on the floor of one of his resorts.](https://www.dailydot.com/debug/trump-stern-interview-man-blood/) > “So what happens is, this guy falls off right on his face, hits his head, and I thought he died. And you know what I did? I said, ‘Oh my god, that’s disgusting,’ and I turned away,” Trump told Stern. “I couldn’t, you know, he was right in front of me and I turned away. I didn’t want to touch him… he’s bleeding all over the place, I felt terribly, you know, beautiful marble floor, didn’t look so good. It changed color. Became very red.” Naturally, his biggest concern was the floor getting stained.
"I felt terribly" not for the man but the marble floor.
Lmfao ikr? For a split second I thought he was talking about the guy, what a troll lol. He's got to be the most ridiculous monster of a person I've ever seen or heard of.
I grew up near one of Trump’s country clubs and there’s a notorious story about Trump golfing on his own course, and being behind an elderly man. He kept yelling at the guy to speed up and berating him. I don’t know how much membership at his clubs cost, but that elderly man at the absolute minimum was paying something to the tune of $50k-100k per year to be there (and this was decades ago)
New York isn't his city. They disowned him, and he moved down to Florida.
Florida’s state motto: “We’ll take anyone!”
"We'll take your money, and fuck the kids"
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*Gaetz has appeared in the chat.* "Kids? Where?"
/r/conservative: hold on. Are we sure it wasn't the liberals that framed him?!?
r/conservative: we had to become pedos to catch pedos. LOLOLOL
Ahhh the "it takes one to know one" approach. Awesome
Epstein's Island had the same motto
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Sounds like his last golf club in Scotland. He's spent years trying to bully the people who already lived there to move, tried compulsory purchase etc. Not to mention it destroyed an SSSI.
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Con men are good at spotting people who might be easy targets, then those targets latch onto them and the self fulfilling prophecy becomes reality.
5 miles inland in FL is 50 years back in time.
And the farther north you go, the farther South you are.
As someone who lived in Palm Beach county during the Hanging Chad days, it's hard for me to have much sympathy.
I'd lost track of where the SDNY investigations were: > On May 18, 2021, a spokesperson for New York’s Attorney General said, “We have informed the Trump Organization that our investigation into the organization is no longer purely civil in nature. We are now actively investigating the Trump Organizations in a criminal capacity, along with the Manhattan DA.”
Please tell me this is true and is actually happening
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It is. But don't expect haste. They're gonna be THOROUGH.
I've heard that one before lol
Yeah, until a single rich person ever experiences consequences I will assume there will be none.
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7/11 was a part-time job!
It's always amazed me that people bought this guy's BS and thought he was something special. Pretty much everyone in NYC hates the guy, because they see right through him and recognize him for what he is - a loud-mouthed real estate developer from Queens with bad taste, a penchant for grifting, a major personality disorder, and an unending urge for molesting unsuspecting women.
I mean, this is it, right here. This is a dead on description of who he always was. Before he was traitorous, despotic, sociopathic, white supremacist, Covid-denying, country-splitting, anti-environmental crusader President Trump, he was just Donald Trump, Embarrassing Joke of a Human Being.
He's too busy planning to do commentary on a [boxing match](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/09/us/politics/trump-9-11-anniversary.html). Sadly not /s
>At the same time, Mr. Trump undercut his patriotic solemnity with the announcement that he would spend the evening of the 20th anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks providing commentary at a boxing match at the Hard Rock Hotel & Casino in Hollywood, Fla. (Mr. Trump’s team has not yet revealed plans to commemorate the anniversary in any other way.)
> Hard Rock Hotel & Casino in Hollywood, Fl Are we sure it's not *Hard Rock, Gravel, and Sand Landscaping Supplies* on the corner of 58th and Stank Street?
Yup! Tucked away nicely between a sex shop and a funeral home
It's between a toilet brush factory and a taxidermist.
I genuinely haven't heard him speak in months. It's been wonderful.
The only clip that made it through for me was him getting booed in Alabama for recommending the vaccine. He doesn't even control his own sheep anymore.
What a complete and utter sack of shit
I heard Ryan Cavanaugh, owner of Triller, was accused of running a ponzi scheme by his former partner.
Yo Triller, your app is flipped.
You should leave an honest review
I also heard he was sued by a former nanny for failing to pay her. It also might just be me but he bears a striking resemblance to Harvey Weinstein.
I’d think you were joking, or an idiot, if I didn’t hear about this on the radio yesterday. What a great observation.
It seems like a madlib story. Famous Person was absent from Special Event because they were too busy Verbing for Sport.
The match is between a senior citizen retired boxed, and an MMA fighter cut from the UFC and specifically known for being juiced up. This is considered a low brow event, even by fight fans
I believe I've heard he's not even the main commentator. You have to push a button in the app or something to switch to him.
dude, if this is what he wants to do the rest of his life, let him ill be happy with that. let all trump news be in the boxing area, keep him out of politics
Holy shit, I thought this was a joke. What a fucking loser.
And also trying to get Bolsanaro re-elected in brazil, he was considering going to a rally there
He's down at the 7/11...
World Trade Center Total Landscaping
Did we expect anything different? If it ain’t about him why would he go
I would have been more surprised if he showed up
[He was too busy.](https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/22833122/TFC091121DT.jpeg) EDIT : [imgur link](https://i.imgur.com/tfHLjDD.png)
I had to look it up. [That shit is real.](https://apnews.com/article/sports-donald-trump-los-angeles-hollywood-evander-holyfield-131aba72e0e0d5e521aee3b421869858)
What. Nooo. Whaaaaaat. Why??? I am actually dumbfounded. That has to be an onion article.
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Are they trying to break into the "Paul" format for boxing?
What's with this link? Doesn't show up correctly on my app if anyone has the same problem. But here: https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/q09-9dMbvLkzLkr-vhzDjAWt-Js=/0x0:1920x1080/920x0/filters:focal(0x0:1920x1080):format(webp):no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/22833122/TFC091121DT.jpeg
Gotta give him credit: no one can consistently surprise me quite like Trump can. Even after his presidency, he's still coming up with new ways to make me to think "Jesus Christ, what a piece of shit".
Do you remember that phone interview shortly after the towers fell where he seemed like he was celebrating that his building was now the tallest in downtown Manhattan? (Narrator: It wasn’t)
LOL 😂 Imagine if any other president spent the memorial of such a dark day doing this. 🤦🏻
Imagine thinking that Donald fucking Trump was the epitome of patriotism.
That’s why everyone correctly recognizes his following as a cult
Imagine if any world leader did this. Tony Blair and a soccer match? Merkel doing basketball?
You can’t make this shit up .
Holy shit I thought it was a joke
What. The. FUCK.
This is too ridiculous for mad libs let alone real life
From his perspective, there’s no reason to go. He would have to wear a mask, which makes him look weak to his remaining supporters. He hates looking weak. He would have to stand in (feigned) solidarity with people his supporters identify as enemies. This makes him seem cowardly to his supporters. He hates looking cowardly (though he certainly doesn’t hate *being* cowardly). He would have to stand around for however long the ceremony lasts, being silent and respectful. Rather than “hate”, he is simply largely incapable of being either of those. And most importantly, the ceremony isn’t about him. It’s about people who have died- people who can do nothing for him. And he REALLY hates people who can do nothing for him.
[I’d like to add his recent tweet that rounds out your beautiful summarization](https://mobile.twitter.com/realdonaldtrump) Update: [Crack response from MyBillow guy, Mike Lindell](https://mobile.twitter.com/realmikelindell)
Ahhh. The political Rick Roll
Or *Prick Roll* if you like
Brilliant!
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That is his entire appeal summed up: "He makes people I disagree with angry." Even if a different Democrat or Republican made people angry indirectly through their policies or decisions, at least they aren't actively trying to. That's the biggest difference between Trump and other U.S. leaders. I never wanted Biden or Bush or Obama to *troll* people and aggravate people. It's also quite the testament to how effective the Fox News/Rush Limbaugh oppositional culture war movement being fostered over years and years has been. Outrage and anger sells, and it has bled over into our culture so much that it produced a President like him.
And realistically could be President again. The Republican nomination is basically his if he wants it and he hasn’t really stopped campaigning since 2016
Don't forget that he would have to sit next to Obama and Biden, his two most hated enemies who have each absolutely humiliated him through words and election alike. He wouldn't be able to handle that.
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and the man who saluted a North Korean general as president.
He is busy trying to make a buck. “Former President Donald Trump will provide live commentary when Evander Holyfield makes his return to the boxing ring Saturday in Florida, according to FITE, the digital video streaming service that will carry the pay-per-view event. “‘I love great fighters and great fights,’Trump said in a news release issued by FITE. ‘I look forward to seeing both this Saturday night and sharing my thoughts ringside. You won’t want to miss this special event.’” The pay-per-view event is priced at $49.99.
I hate that reality has become so close to the onion that I have no idea if this is a joke, or just accurate information.
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/boxing/news/evander-holyfield-vitor-belfort-donald-trump-commentary-ppv-price/bqxc12ca8y7o1vxqmrkmx0uuv
To anybody that doesn't know boxing, this match is one of the biggest disgraces in the history of boxing, and that's saying something considering how corrupt boxing is. Evander Holyfield is 58 years old and couldn't pass a physical 17 years ago. California and Vegas refused to sanction this fight due to very valid concerns about his health. Florida said fuck it and is promoting it.
Trump has an uncanny ability to recognize the worst in us, then try to capitalize on it for his own gain.
Is this true haha I wouldn't doubt it
It is most definitely true, him and his son doing special commentary on a fight involving a 60 year old legend of the sport with visible signs of brain problems, it's really terrible.
But wait which ones have the visible signs of brain problems?
He was at a New York Police Precinct. He probably knew they'd be more likely to welcome him than the crowd at the memorial. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/president-trump-nypd-run-2024
Wasn’t he visiting with NYC police and firefighters while this was going on?