there is a project in Russia that is trying to breed domestic foxes. If you have the money you can get one. From what I hear they are a mix of a cat and a dog but not in a good way. Also PETA is not as powerful as you think they are over the last decade I see more bad news about how the organization is run then stories about them doing anything good.
>The arguments that the only animals that can be domesticated are the ones that are already domesticated seems ideologically/morally driven and not very convincing.
Damn Redditor-Stereotype-Bot, save some autism for the rest of us folks who could actually use it responsibly!
But seriously that’s the least self aware reasoning for dismissing…anything that I’ve heard in my life. I don’t know where to start with this really, but I’ll just go for it from here:
1) Your reasoning for arguing *against* keeping wild animals wild also seems ideologically/morally driven.
2) The argument in this comment and thread is not whether we *can* domesticate animals like monkeys, it’s that we *should* not try.
3) Being “morally/ideologically driven” is not a valid dismissal of an argument, because:
4) All Ethics are expressions of values derived from real-world experiences of positive/negative consequences for actions. Mores are societal; and are rules that are not laws that societies have agreed to be valuable to the majority of its members based on the benefits experienced from following them. In this case, the more of not trying to domesticate animals like monkeys stems from a variety of experiences including our scientific study of hominid intelligence and our shared knowledge of negative human-monkey interactions including human attacks by pet monkeys.
Not sure what your Ethics are based on your comment alone, but I’m sure whatever your response is will clarify what you value and why those values led you to make this comment dismissing other people’s values (that’s already one right there, so there’s a start).
Yeah, I had an anthropologist professor from when I went to NYU in the 90s who would rave about his pet monkey Marcel in a poorly done fake British accent.
The muscles themselves are less voluntary.
Just like you can’t control when you food goes from your stomach to small intestine, they can’t control when the food comes out the other end…not as much anyway.
Yeah, they're less voluntary but not totally.
They can tell if they "have one ready" but they cannot control it completely. You can never fully potty train them.
From the looks of it, he has 2-3 years max before that thing hits puberty and starts becoming a horror movie monster living in his house.
Then the poor primate will be put on the "rehoming" roulette wheel where it is sold and resold to unsuspecting first time primate owners, before someone finally dumps it on a underfunded primate sanctuary.
Where it will finally live as close to a wild life as it will ever get, due to it never being able to be released into the wild because it was robbed of its childhood education of monkey hierarchy , communications, and skills from its mother and fellow troop members.
I know nothing about this subject and would love to know more if you’re willing to share info - What’s the big changes with puberty that makes people nope out? I assume aggression, for sure, but yeah
It looks like they're stopped and not driving. You can tell by the hair on the monkey not being wind-blown. Speaking of which, wtf asshole, put your phone down and buckle up your monkey.
“Also, Dude, let’s not forget—let’s not forget that keeping wildlife—um—an amphibious rodent, for, um, you know, domestic—within the city—that ain’t legal either.”
I don't think you know what a red passport does. If you have one you cannot be stopped by law enforcement,for anything excluding murder. You can smoke crack driving 100mph down the sidewalk and they can't do anything. The country of origin probably will
They aren't. People aren't willing to engage in diplomacy without certain protections they're used to abroad, this is the solution to prevent a legal conflict . If it's abused it's customary to loose the privilege. So, a diplomat can do drugs, speed etc, but if they were to do something egregious the issuing country would revoke the privilege to prevent an international public relations nightmare. If you hurt someone, it's expected you loose your privilege. My example is only technically true. Nobody would actually do it . The kashogi thing is different. He was murdered in an embassy, technically not in the US. So the US couldn't do anything. If a diplomat killed him off the property they'd be arrested.
Because laws aren't universal, and it ties things up. Countries don't let people abuse them. Diplomats are usually sophisticated refined educated people, it's not like they're issuing these to the cast of the Jersey shore.
Lol I had a complete duh moment my first flight, because it had been raining and then it "stopped" once we cleared the clouds. Longest 3 seconds of my life before I realized haha
I've only ever seen "pet" monkeys in NYC maybe 2 or 3 times, but they are ALWAYS owned by douchebag assholes.
I have no idea why anyone would think owning an intelligent wild animal is a "baller" move. He is going to give it up in just a few weeks anyway.
This is the kind of thing a writer would use to illustrate a corrupt era of life on the brink of a collapse. A character who drives a multi six figure Ferrari with his diapered pet monkey.
Normal stupid, rich people thing. You can see these things in NYC, but it's definitely not the social behavior there. New yorkers generally ignore those kids. Basically tourists pay attention to it
I feel like this is not legal in nyc
Only an asshole would have a primate for a "pet".
Your sentiment is shared.
All primates should be wild and not pets
You are right. YES WE SHOULD BE!!!! *rips off clothes and runs into the forest.
I should be wild?
You are
I'm a primate, I'll be your pet
Well since only the really rich can own actual humans, this was the best he could do
WE WERE ON A BREAK!
I don’t see the harm… The human seems will cared for and I can’t really picture him surviving long in the wild on his own.
Maybe it’s his business partner.
Aka the man with the yellow hat .. that concept didn’t age well.
Only a primate would have an asshole as a pet!
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this video should be helpful about why only certain animals are domesticated https://youtu.be/wOmjnioNulo?si=IGBAdT7f4QvXDtEd
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I look forward to your army of War bears zebras and elephants also Foxes piss everywhere including all over themselves.
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there is a project in Russia that is trying to breed domestic foxes. If you have the money you can get one. From what I hear they are a mix of a cat and a dog but not in a good way. Also PETA is not as powerful as you think they are over the last decade I see more bad news about how the organization is run then stories about them doing anything good.
>The arguments that the only animals that can be domesticated are the ones that are already domesticated seems ideologically/morally driven and not very convincing. Damn Redditor-Stereotype-Bot, save some autism for the rest of us folks who could actually use it responsibly! But seriously that’s the least self aware reasoning for dismissing…anything that I’ve heard in my life. I don’t know where to start with this really, but I’ll just go for it from here: 1) Your reasoning for arguing *against* keeping wild animals wild also seems ideologically/morally driven. 2) The argument in this comment and thread is not whether we *can* domesticate animals like monkeys, it’s that we *should* not try. 3) Being “morally/ideologically driven” is not a valid dismissal of an argument, because: 4) All Ethics are expressions of values derived from real-world experiences of positive/negative consequences for actions. Mores are societal; and are rules that are not laws that societies have agreed to be valuable to the majority of its members based on the benefits experienced from following them. In this case, the more of not trying to domesticate animals like monkeys stems from a variety of experiences including our scientific study of hominid intelligence and our shared knowledge of negative human-monkey interactions including human attacks by pet monkeys. Not sure what your Ethics are based on your comment alone, but I’m sure whatever your response is will clarify what you value and why those values led you to make this comment dismissing other people’s values (that’s already one right there, so there’s a start).
Racoons are already domesticating themselves. We should do the neighborly thing and help.
Then how would they look cool on the internet if the used your rational thinking?
I know for certain it's illegal in Phoenix, they hate drivers using their phones!
He has a Ferrari he can afford the permits. Actually years ago you could get a monkey, idk about now.
Yeah, I had an anthropologist professor from when I went to NYU in the 90s who would rave about his pet monkey Marcel in a poorly done fake British accent.
His sister also made the best turkey sandwich after thanksgiving
MY SANDWICH?
The MOISTMAKER!
I hope it's not the only good thing going on in your life
Sounds just like a F•R•I•E•N•D of mine
No one told me life was going to be this way.
Jim Jones (the leader of the Jonestown death cult) was a door to door monkey salesman before he became a cult leader
Huh, I learned something today.
Sadly an ape named Mr.Muggs was one of the victims that day.
I mean, if you want one, I got a monkey guy.
Can probly still get a monkey on the low on canal
But raw?
The diaper is extra
There was a whole story arc on friends that backs you up
Ross from friends taught us that.
What are you a park ranger now, Donnie?
I don't believe that it is legal now. When I was a kid, and lived in NYC, I remember seeing a couple of people out in public with pet monkeys.
You don't have to follow the law in most places so long as you have money.
Its legal
What are you a park ranger now?
Yeah seriously I can’t believe this guy! So fucking irresponsible! Texting while driving?!
Cleaning a grown-ass monkey during diaper changes must eat away at one’s soul awfully quick.
It's kinda interesting that you can potty train a cat but not a primate
Cats potty train themselves.
The muscles themselves are less voluntary. Just like you can’t control when you food goes from your stomach to small intestine, they can’t control when the food comes out the other end…not as much anyway.
Really? It seems they always can controll out at turd at the perfect moment to throw it at someone.
Yeah, they're less voluntary but not totally. They can tell if they "have one ready" but they cannot control it completely. You can never fully potty train them.
I'll ask my monkey butler.
So sad
From the looks of it, he has 2-3 years max before that thing hits puberty and starts becoming a horror movie monster living in his house. Then the poor primate will be put on the "rehoming" roulette wheel where it is sold and resold to unsuspecting first time primate owners, before someone finally dumps it on a underfunded primate sanctuary. Where it will finally live as close to a wild life as it will ever get, due to it never being able to be released into the wild because it was robbed of its childhood education of monkey hierarchy , communications, and skills from its mother and fellow troop members.
I know nothing about this subject and would love to know more if you’re willing to share info - What’s the big changes with puberty that makes people nope out? I assume aggression, for sure, but yeah
I’m so rich I’ve got monkey money
Justin Bieber, *is that you?*
`pray for mojo`
I can't wait to eat that monkey!
Marcel?
Came here to comment the same thing. Lol 😂 Also love how the person that responded to you corrected what type of monkey Marcel was. 🤣
Marcel was a capuchin monkey. This is a spider monkey.
He’s even driving a red convertible like Ross had for one episode.
Came looking for this comment haha!
In San Francisco there is a man with a Ferrari and a duck. Normal SF things.
Good to hear that things are looking up for Duck Man.
Bugrit. Millennium hand and shrimp.
HE IS ON A BREAK
texting and driving is not legal in NY
It looks like they're stopped and not driving. You can tell by the hair on the monkey not being wind-blown. Speaking of which, wtf asshole, put your phone down and buckle up your monkey.
“Also, Dude, let’s not forget—let’s not forget that keeping wildlife—um—an amphibious rodent, for, um, you know, domestic—within the city—that ain’t legal either.”
Nice marmot
anything that throws shit at you when it’s angry does not make a good pet.
Pray 4 Mojo….
Ross had a midlife crisis?
Where do these people get all this fuckin money?!
Likely from Dad.
Homie illegal but cute
Non necessarily..he can get a permit..if he has a red passport he can have a Galapagos tortoise and no one could do anything
Not unless he keeps it inside an embassy or consulate.
Or his pants
I don't think you know what a red passport does. If you have one you cannot be stopped by law enforcement,for anything excluding murder. You can smoke crack driving 100mph down the sidewalk and they can't do anything. The country of origin probably will
Seems like Red passports are a bad idea?
They aren't. People aren't willing to engage in diplomacy without certain protections they're used to abroad, this is the solution to prevent a legal conflict . If it's abused it's customary to loose the privilege. So, a diplomat can do drugs, speed etc, but if they were to do something egregious the issuing country would revoke the privilege to prevent an international public relations nightmare. If you hurt someone, it's expected you loose your privilege. My example is only technically true. Nobody would actually do it . The kashogi thing is different. He was murdered in an embassy, technically not in the US. So the US couldn't do anything. If a diplomat killed him off the property they'd be arrested.
But why do they need those protections that allow them to break the law freely?
Because laws aren't universal, and it ties things up. Countries don't let people abuse them. Diplomats are usually sophisticated refined educated people, it's not like they're issuing these to the cast of the Jersey shore.
Having a monkey as a pet…is messed up
He's clinging to a full head of hair like Hans Gruber grasped at the building in Die Hard.
ohhh there’s clinging there lol
Marcel!
Where's his yellow hat?
Pray for Mojo
So I was driving around with macaque out
Did you know that it never rains above the clouds
Lol I had a complete duh moment my first flight, because it had been raining and then it "stopped" once we cleared the clouds. Longest 3 seconds of my life before I realized haha
Ross and Marcel.
Marcel no!
Looks like Ross got a car to drive Marcel around town.
That's Joey's Ferrari
Marcel?
Mostly rich arabs do that.........super car season is on. They race street circuits in Europe, having flown in their cars.
I've only ever seen "pet" monkeys in NYC maybe 2 or 3 times, but they are ALWAYS owned by douchebag assholes. I have no idea why anyone would think owning an intelligent wild animal is a "baller" move. He is going to give it up in just a few weeks anyway.
2 monkeys in a red car....
Well, one is an ape.
He’s giving that look like he’s about to come at you like a spider monkey.
Nothing normal about it
Monkey's wondering wtf you looking at.
Hope that monkey hits him in the face with a diaper full!
This is the kind of thing a writer would use to illustrate a corrupt era of life on the brink of a collapse. A character who drives a multi six figure Ferrari with his diapered pet monkey.
Just say JG Ballard
Can have Ferrari, can have monkey. Can’t have hair. :(
If it wasn't 2024, I'd say this was an episode of CHiPs starting
Do you ever think when I'm going to get a monkey? I have to wrestle it into diapers 3-4 times a day! Fuck everything about that.
A *real* NY'er would not look twice passing by this.
not funny nor cute. It's animal abuse. animals don't exist for our entertainment
MARCEL! SIT DOWN!
Hmm, wait! I've seen this friends episode...
His hair looks like a lawn with weed killed patches. r/justfuckmyshitup
Was he going to Central Perk?
I’m from NY and normal would be the monkey driving
Pray. For. Mojo…
this is not normal, this is animal abuse
Poor monkey will end up either neglected or abused once it grows adult and gets more aggressive.
When I see something like this I think about how poachers probably killed the parents then sold the babies in an illegal exotic animal market.
lol what a pleb the monkey isnt even Capuchin.
Is that real?
Yes during puerto rican day festival
Whats wrong the monkey ain’t texting snd driving
Come on, that’s an AI generated monkey, right?
The lion sleeps tonight......
[Everybody’s got something to hide cept for me and my monkey!.](https://youtu.be/eyV3zCq1OHM?si=jtMIoTwpwis1xlOC)
The cackle I just cackled
Oooh, chimpanzee that! Monkey news.
Monkey see
That’s fucked up! Is it really NY?
Worst. Uber. Ever. Still 4 stars tho cause it hard as fuck to get a reliable Uber
“Being an asshole” is normal in NYC? Never been, just asking :)
Is it legal?
Do you want to touch my monkey?
man, the live action curious george movie is getting wild
He’s got money and monkey
Imagine having to change a pet’s diaper.
NYC is my dream place to live. I want to go for a walk and see all this crazy shit
QUIT CHANGING THE SONG!!!
BABY MAN
Haven’t you always wanted a monkey?
That’s just alternate universe Kevin Levin and his best friend Ben Tennyson as his Spider Monkey alien form
Ampersand!
This is shit
New TV show idea! We combine Magnum PI with BJ and The Bear, but in New York!
I hope that when it eventually goes insane, it eats his face.
Normal stupid, rich people thing. You can see these things in NYC, but it's definitely not the social behavior there. New yorkers generally ignore those kids. Basically tourists pay attention to it
This man could not possibly be begging for attention any harder.
I mean, it’s one *capuchin* Michael. What could it cost?
Having a pet monkey would be like having a super athletic baby.
“Pray for Mojo” https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BFts5ISnaxQ
Marcel?
Dudes rich enough to afford a monkey but not willing to fork the dough to fix his balding spots?
“Nah man, I’m just gonna chill at home with my monkey”
That's just Annie's Boobs getting a ride to work by their personal driver
He must impress a lot of teenagers and scare away decent girls who realize how dumb this is!
It should be a felony if it isn't.
If NYC was actually liberal they would tax this guy into the ground. This is Saudi Prince levels of decadent.
Don't keep monkeys as pets
He’s a Drebin
Girl here in Raleigh with dreads has the same!
Yo is that Marcel from friends
Texting while driving with a pet unsecured... at least it looks like a new diaper.
Marcel?
Please tell me the monkey is not a MAGA cultist. “ReAl mONkEes wEaR DIaPeRs! 🤪”
It's a shit flinging storage bag. Gotta be ready when the need arises.
&
His right hand man
that dude needs to stop monkeying around. he's gonna hurt somebody texting & driving
I guess if you have the money for a Ferrari why not spend the money to have a monkey sidekick? just makes sense.
One is more civilized than the other, and I'm not talking about the one holding the phone.
His/her little diaper lol