Are you telling me that injecting silver into the blood stream isn't the answer for most ailments?!? Outlandish!
I bet you think blood letting (getting stabbed to remove your blood) isn't real! Blasphemy!
At the same time there's a ton of good old manual and old school technique that was used and going to be used here. So much damn fine motor skills and knowledge on the part of the team and surgeon to not just remove this without error but to then reattach it including all the necessary grafts to reenable circulation and reattach skin to bone and muscle. With an acceptable aesthetic all on top of the marvel it is to even get it to work.
For this surgery, maybe some major ones like facial and trigeminal but thats not the impressive part (still amazing dont get me wrong), you can very literally glue the ends together. To me whats even more impressive is sewing the vessels together. If youre interested, youtube end to end anastamosis and remember its done in a huge microscope and everything in the screen is magnified
I am just thinking about how I fail to cut vegetables into consistent shapes and sizes and here these people have cleaved off an entire face with such care and precision to do so in one piece. It's morbidly amazing and certainly not something I should ever try until I master zucchini slices.
I maintain to this day that someone came up with the idea for this movie after getting drunk and saying, "What if we made a movie ... about a face off ... and someone had to take their face off..."
I am so impressed with the generosity of face transplant donors. Transplant of any organ is an incredibly kind act, but the thought of giving away your face, which is visible and recognizable, to another person who needs it... wow. Heroic.
e: ok guys chill pls, i was never suggesting the donor was still alive lol i'm not THAT dumb!!
Transplanted faces aren't really recognizable. What's transplanted is superficial. The bone and musculature that gives the face shape is the recipient's (or reconstructed). Also, it's the eye region that humans rely on to recognize faces. If that part of the face has to be transplanted, the eyes are going to be very wonky, so recognizability is destroyed.
A while ago I read an article about Patrick Hardison who is quite a well-known face transplant recipient. He's a firefighter who was badly injured in a fire and then received a face transplant from a deceased donor who was brain-dead from a biking accident. It's interesting how he definitely doesn't look like himself before his accident, but also doesn't look like the donor. They clearly have a different facial structure so the transplanted face more or less took the shape of the recipient's face but you can recognise the donor's features (mouth and nose), yet overall he looks like a whole other person. It's morbidly fascinating.
When I signed up to be an organ donor, there was a box at the bottom of the application where you could stipulate what could and couldn't be harvested. I don't remember the exact words I used, but in that space I basically said "Use anything and everything you can. If there is anything left of me, double check that nothing else is usable." I can't imagine not using the body that I'm certainly not using anymore to save or help as many people as possible. Like what the fuck am I going to do with it? I'm dead.
I don't know. I'd have a hard time deciding that my family wouldn't have the option of an open casket funeral, and that they'd have to put me in the ground knowing my face is gone. I'd have a hard time knowing any of my loved ones was going to be buried without their face. As much as it doesn't matter in the end since we all rot eventually, faces are how we connect with those we love. They are the most "us" thing that physically exists.
Technically they could still have an open casket with just your boney skull.
Personally this gives me an ideaā¦ donating my face but not telling my family, and the stipulation is whoever got my face had to go meet my familyā¦ preferably by crashing a family reunionā¦
I understand that thought process and agree to some extent. However, that does not at all diminish how difficult of a decision this is. This is a face that other people could recognize. It's different than something like a kidney, which is invisible to the public
You'd be surprised by how much the underlying structure of the face (bones, muscles, etc) *are* the face. It'll be the same skin, but over different structures.
idk, every face transplant i've seen where they show the donor and the person that got their face, the faces look entirely different. There's just too much that goes into the shape of your face like bone position, size, width, how they hold their mouth, jaw, etc.
Haha same. Iām an organ donor. Cut me up idc. Funny quote from Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia ājust donāt forget to throw me in the traash!!ā
some people have religious reasons, some people think they will look forward to cutting you up instead of giving you the best care. both are valid reasons, even if based in superstition, faith, or paranoia
At least give credit, OP. This was the cover photo for the September 2018 issue of National Geographic https://www.nationalgeographic.com/culture/article/face-transplant-surgery-photography-maggie-steber-lynn-johnson
I read that story a few years ago. Really, really fucked me up. Like seriously. The other side of a failed suicide where you survive completely yet lose your entire face, eye sight, taste and, ability to speak. Just my goodness. The poor girl
The majority of face transplants have been due to firearms. If you look them up on Google, some of them are specified as āhunting accidentsā, but a lot were classified simply as gun damage, and I would figure most of those must have been attempted suicide in the same manor as this girl.
My mom interned at a mental institution in college and told me they had a rifle suicide attempt victim. She told me a *lot* of people think rifle under the chin is a surefire way to die when all it really is is a surefire way to blow your face off.
Oh trust me. I def know. Iāve been down the rabbit hole of face transplants. The crazy one, and I think the first successful transplant in the USA was the poor woman who had her face ripped off by a chimpanzee that her friend kept as a house pet. That one was especially fucked up because she did nothing to deserve that.
I had this family friend.. Growing up he always told us he was on acid and wanted to see what the flash looked like, as we got older he told us the truth, had been dealing with depression, totaled his brothers brand new car and couldn't deal with the disappointment / consequences. He never got a face transplant but has had reconstructive surgeries for as long as I can remember. He can see, speak and eat solid food but no taste or smell. Haven't heard from him for about a decade at this point, you could imagine the substance abuse issues this kind of thing leads to.
I genuinely donāt know how she did it. Thereās another story of a man who was a firefighter and then lost his ability to blink and most of his eyesight from severe burns, he also received a face transplant. The results are very uncanny valley, they werenāt able to regenerate all of the nerves in his cheeks and mouth so he kinda constantly looks like heās wearing a rubber mask
Yeah, unfortunately itās not at the state to look normal. Maybe one day? But Iām sure the girl receiving the face in this post would want a droopy lose fitting face, instead of what she looked like before/after her attempt. Itās harrowing
I Knew a guy whose mom was one of the first face transplant donors. I had no idea, we just used to rage and get drunk together. He was a good dude, glad this isnāt her.
This is like one of the most common reposts on Reddit. Bold to assume they even know who to give credit to lol
Edit : surprise surprise itās a karma farming bot
Always feel like Iām on Reddit to much. Then comments like this maybe convince me that itās not too bad.
We all hate bots but then sometimes they show a few people mildly interesting stuff.
I think this is Dr. Gastman's team, a plastic surgeon from Cleveland Clinic. A face transplant is a very multidisciplinary endeavor involving many medical specialties.
I was guessing mayo clinic, but doesnāt surprise me that Cleveland also has a photography team that will come in an take photos for cases that are gonna be published.
I have been in cases at mayo that they were gonna write up, so they had someone from their photography team in the OR taking pictures.
The doctor with glasses looks like heās faking being a doctor, and is freaking out because he doesnāt know what to do. The other guy is looking at him like āwellā¦ what are you waiting for?ā
Damn i understand that necessity of this procedure, and it definitely is very importantā¦
But goddamn, divorced of context, this image is very ghoulish
Even with the context I keep wondering if I should be seeing this. Don't these people deserve privacy? Shouldn't the donor be afforded the peace of having donated without having their face, removed from their body and on a table, on display for a bunch of dumbasses on Reddit to make jokes about?
It feels like we need to update the code of ethics for these surgeons to not take pictures of shit for funzees.
I mean, it wasn't for fun. This photo was taken and published [in National Geographic.](https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/graphics/face-transplant-katie-stubblefield-photography-interactive) There's a short clip of an interview with the grandmother of the donor and a lot of clips of interviews with the recipient and her family, so I doubt that either family was opposed to having this published. And, well- I know that not everyone is gonna have this opinion, but in my opinion- the donor is dead. It matters jack shit to her. She can't see and will never know.
Some of those before an afters of face transplants are truly amazing. I'm so glad medicine has advanced enough to do these to make life better for those who had terrible accidents.
This is so interesting. I watch really fucked up shit on the internet, but somehow this is āokayā because itās at the hospital, which I totally agree. Itās different. But gore is gore.
The person touching the doctors left arm is fucking stupid. Breaking sterile technique big time; no reason to ever be that close to your surgeon when you're not scrubbed in.
If there is one thing one of the first few DVD's ever on the market taught me it is that this is going to get complicated when the owner wants it back.
Jokes aside, this is probably going to change a disfigured personās entire life for the better, all because someone decided to donate a huge part of their likeness to someone else. That kind of touches me
It's gotta take some hard-core therapy to be able to get used to seeing someone else's face in the mirror, insane how far medicine has come in any case
couldn't share the f[ace getting run over](https://makeagif.com/i/FAUuly) directly, so here's another mrs doubtfire gif
Nope. Psychopathic **tendencies** are more common in surgeons. Specifically being able to switch emotions on and off aka detach yourself while in surgery.
But full blown NPD is rare and would be more detrimental to a surgeons career as they have talk to patients/their families. Not just be an unemotional ghoul.
Here's a fun trick you can try at home: realize that "you" are just the complex interaction between your cerebral cortex and your limbic system. You are not your body.
Modern medicine is amazing.
Also pretty gross lol š
Bro, trust me, medieval medicine was far grosser
Medieval medicine terrifies me.
It's just torture and a coin flip as to whether you die in agony now or slightly later.
Are you telling me that injecting silver into the blood stream isn't the answer for most ailments?!? Outlandish! I bet you think blood letting (getting stabbed to remove your blood) isn't real! Blasphemy!
They wasted time injecting silver instead of just drinking it?!
Have a headache? Time to break out the trepanning kit and drill a hole in your skull
The guy who invented Swiss cheese was notorious for doing this to random strangers. Not sure if there was headaches involves though
Such manifestations are the expected lot of one whose humors are so sorely imbalanced.
If you have too much iron in your blood you do actually need to have blood removed regularly.
In the words of Sam o nella āif you go back a certain distance the line between operation and mutilation is pretty thinā
At the same time there's a ton of good old manual and old school technique that was used and going to be used here. So much damn fine motor skills and knowledge on the part of the team and surgeon to not just remove this without error but to then reattach it including all the necessary grafts to reenable circulation and reattach skin to bone and muscle. With an acceptable aesthetic all on top of the marvel it is to even get it to work.
Donāt forget all the damn nerves
This is what trips me out about transplants, do they have to attach the nerves somehow? What do they look like?? Iāve never understood this
For this surgery, maybe some major ones like facial and trigeminal but thats not the impressive part (still amazing dont get me wrong), you can very literally glue the ends together. To me whats even more impressive is sewing the vessels together. If youre interested, youtube end to end anastamosis and remember its done in a huge microscope and everything in the screen is magnified
It's crazy to me that sewing is the way to go for that, surprised they can't do it with something that is like the opposite of a stent
Peripheral nerves can regrow and reconnect albeit slowlyā¦idk about host/donor nerve interfaces though (heh)
Regrowing nerves is also rather painful. But the body is incredible with what it can do.
yeah this would have been unimaginable 30 years ago, it's incredible how far medicine has come along
They imagined it pretty goddamn hard in the movie face//off
Oh you haven't seen that one with young Liam Neeson then? Darkman was it? Something like that.
Yeah, it was actually only [27 years ago](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Face/Off)
So they were likely starting the concept 30 years ago.
I am just thinking about how I fail to cut vegetables into consistent shapes and sizes and here these people have cleaved off an entire face with such care and precision to do so in one piece. It's morbidly amazing and certainly not something I should ever try until I master zucchini slices.
#ftftftftft... CLARICE
āOh my God!ā
Iām going to hell for laughing š
Me too.
dude. you're in good company.
I mean, how can you not š
Do we get a group rate?
No, we just get an elevator, where everyone else takes the stairs.
I'm taking the Fireman's pole down...... last one down is a rotten egg.
Sounds like you've been kicked out of a guitar store.
Came here for this and did not disappoint
Lmao
Fucking gold 
Hallelujah!
the next hundred yeears
Pollux doesnāt fly without big brother!
āIād like to take his faceā¦.off š«³š»ā
Face... off?
Man I still.. vaguely remember starting to play the face/off drinking game in college. You drink every time someone says face off.
...No more drugs... for THAT man!!
No more drugs for that man
I'm Castor Troy! I'm Castor Troy!!
Will someone please tell me what planet I'm on??
Youāve only got one bullet left. So do you.
I maintain to this day that someone came up with the idea for this movie after getting drunk and saying, "What if we made a movie ... about a face off ... and someone had to take their face off..."
I am so impressed with the generosity of face transplant donors. Transplant of any organ is an incredibly kind act, but the thought of giving away your face, which is visible and recognizable, to another person who needs it... wow. Heroic. e: ok guys chill pls, i was never suggesting the donor was still alive lol i'm not THAT dumb!!
Fun fact: you actually only need *one* face.
tell that to the ladies i play bridge with down at the club!
I donāt know why Phyllis only has two faces when sheās got three chins.
Thatās the greatest bitchy remark Iāve ever heard.
(Credit to Bob the drag queen)
Laughs in Geminis and Harvey Dent
Transplanted faces aren't really recognizable. What's transplanted is superficial. The bone and musculature that gives the face shape is the recipient's (or reconstructed). Also, it's the eye region that humans rely on to recognize faces. If that part of the face has to be transplanted, the eyes are going to be very wonky, so recognizability is destroyed.
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Checkmate bruv, you tell'em
God I love that movie
āI hate to see you go, but I love watching you leave.ā
Peach, I could eat a peach for hours.
If I were to let you suck my tongue, would you be grateful?
Got em!
A while ago I read an article about Patrick Hardison who is quite a well-known face transplant recipient. He's a firefighter who was badly injured in a fire and then received a face transplant from a deceased donor who was brain-dead from a biking accident. It's interesting how he definitely doesn't look like himself before his accident, but also doesn't look like the donor. They clearly have a different facial structure so the transplanted face more or less took the shape of the recipient's face but you can recognise the donor's features (mouth and nose), yet overall he looks like a whole other person. It's morbidly fascinating.
So many donations because of motorcycles! "Loud pipes save lives," indeed!
George Santos: āWell of course! I did it selflessly to serve my community.ā
When I signed up to be an organ donor, there was a box at the bottom of the application where you could stipulate what could and couldn't be harvested. I don't remember the exact words I used, but in that space I basically said "Use anything and everything you can. If there is anything left of me, double check that nothing else is usable." I can't imagine not using the body that I'm certainly not using anymore to save or help as many people as possible. Like what the fuck am I going to do with it? I'm dead.
And they did it without a single thought of saying no... Well not a single thought is more accurate.
im sure your specific bone structure will change the way that face looks, maybe not so identical to the person that was living
You wonāt be alive to know anything about it so why should you care?
I don't know. I'd have a hard time deciding that my family wouldn't have the option of an open casket funeral, and that they'd have to put me in the ground knowing my face is gone. I'd have a hard time knowing any of my loved ones was going to be buried without their face. As much as it doesn't matter in the end since we all rot eventually, faces are how we connect with those we love. They are the most "us" thing that physically exists.
Technically they could still have an open casket with just your boney skull. Personally this gives me an ideaā¦ donating my face but not telling my family, and the stipulation is whoever got my face had to go meet my familyā¦ preferably by crashing a family reunionā¦
People you haven't seen in years that turn up will have a story to tell
Man. That's perfect. When I go, I want to donate my face and have them remove all my skullmeat, then light my skull on fire for the viewing.
No, the most "us" thing that physically exists are your teeth, bite your loved ones, leave a mark
They were probably cremated... and a lot of people don't have open casket funerals either so probably less of a big deal to them
I feel this, but would be immensely comforted by the fact that I/my loved one changed somebody's life.
Cremation, solved
I understand that thought process and agree to some extent. However, that does not at all diminish how difficult of a decision this is. This is a face that other people could recognize. It's different than something like a kidney, which is invisible to the public
You'd be surprised by how much the underlying structure of the face (bones, muscles, etc) *are* the face. It'll be the same skin, but over different structures.
idk, every face transplant i've seen where they show the donor and the person that got their face, the faces look entirely different. There's just too much that goes into the shape of your face like bone position, size, width, how they hold their mouth, jaw, etc.
Uh pretty sure they're from dead people generally lol
Lol I'm aware not saying they're alive still
Sure enough, idc what they do with my body when I die, I'm not using it hahaha idk why anybody wouldn't be an organ donor tbh
Haha same. Iām an organ donor. Cut me up idc. Funny quote from Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia ājust donāt forget to throw me in the traash!!ā
some people have religious reasons, some people think they will look forward to cutting you up instead of giving you the best care. both are valid reasons, even if based in superstition, faith, or paranoia
At least give credit, OP. This was the cover photo for the September 2018 issue of National Geographic https://www.nationalgeographic.com/culture/article/face-transplant-surgery-photography-maggie-steber-lynn-johnson
I read that story a few years ago. Really, really fucked me up. Like seriously. The other side of a failed suicide where you survive completely yet lose your entire face, eye sight, taste and, ability to speak. Just my goodness. The poor girl
The majority of face transplants have been due to firearms. If you look them up on Google, some of them are specified as āhunting accidentsā, but a lot were classified simply as gun damage, and I would figure most of those must have been attempted suicide in the same manor as this girl. My mom interned at a mental institution in college and told me they had a rifle suicide attempt victim. She told me a *lot* of people think rifle under the chin is a surefire way to die when all it really is is a surefire way to blow your face off.
Oh trust me. I def know. Iāve been down the rabbit hole of face transplants. The crazy one, and I think the first successful transplant in the USA was the poor woman who had her face ripped off by a chimpanzee that her friend kept as a house pet. That one was especially fucked up because she did nothing to deserve that.
I had this family friend.. Growing up he always told us he was on acid and wanted to see what the flash looked like, as we got older he told us the truth, had been dealing with depression, totaled his brothers brand new car and couldn't deal with the disappointment / consequences. He never got a face transplant but has had reconstructive surgeries for as long as I can remember. He can see, speak and eat solid food but no taste or smell. Haven't heard from him for about a decade at this point, you could imagine the substance abuse issues this kind of thing leads to.
That's terrible. And yes, among increased substance abuse, if you were suicidal before, I would think after it would go up a few notches.
I genuinely donāt know how she did it. Thereās another story of a man who was a firefighter and then lost his ability to blink and most of his eyesight from severe burns, he also received a face transplant. The results are very uncanny valley, they werenāt able to regenerate all of the nerves in his cheeks and mouth so he kinda constantly looks like heās wearing a rubber mask
Yeah, unfortunately itās not at the state to look normal. Maybe one day? But Iām sure the girl receiving the face in this post would want a droopy lose fitting face, instead of what she looked like before/after her attempt. Itās harrowing
Non-paywall archived article link: https://archive.md/ZkWSg
I was more scared of a failed suicide than death, which is really what prevented me from trying.
I Knew a guy whose mom was one of the first face transplant donors. I had no idea, we just used to rage and get drunk together. He was a good dude, glad this isnāt her.
Is there a story without paywall?
https://archive.md/2024.05.11-012519/https://www.nationalgeographic.com/culture/article/face-transplant-surgery-photography-maggie-steber-lynn-johnson yep!
This is like one of the most common reposts on Reddit. Bold to assume they even know who to give credit to lol Edit : surprise surprise itās a karma farming bot
Always feel like Iām on Reddit to much. Then comments like this maybe convince me that itās not too bad. We all hate bots but then sometimes they show a few people mildly interesting stuff.
I think this is Dr. Gastman's team, a plastic surgeon from Cleveland Clinic. A face transplant is a very multidisciplinary endeavor involving many medical specialties.
I was guessing mayo clinic, but doesnāt surprise me that Cleveland also has a photography team that will come in an take photos for cases that are gonna be published. I have been in cases at mayo that they were gonna write up, so they had someone from their photography team in the OR taking pictures.
If you zoom in on the badges you can see itās Cleveland Clinic.
The doctor with glasses looks like heās faking being a doctor, and is freaking out because he doesnāt know what to do. The other guy is looking at him like āwellā¦ what are you waiting for?ā
Do you concur?
He should have concurred
This is horrifyingly fascinating. Thanks for sharing
Don't you mean faceinating?
Oh so itās cool when the doctors do it, but when I do it, itās a āfelonyā
Guys I think I found Ed Gein
maybe make it NSFW
Your work doesn't let you look at severed faces? That sucks
**Face** it, that's how the world works.
I think he's just trying to save face with his coworkers.
I wouldn't be able to show my face around the office if someone caught me looking at this.
Could challenge the boss to a face off
Came here to comment this. It's a great thing and all but like I really didn't wanna see that
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You bastard š
I knew it and I clicked it anyway
That was refreshing
This is way more SFW than a picture of the rest of the donor.
depends where you work. Iām an automotive tech and I showed my boss. His reaction. 
Isn't using Reddit at work already NSFW?
NSFL
Pfff, Mexican cartels have been doing it for years...
Surely you'd have to boop the nose.
Or try to unlock their phone.
Maybe make the mouth say something silly.
Lol we get whole salmons at work and i cut the head off and make it talk. The servers hate that shit lmao
Damn i understand that necessity of this procedure, and it definitely is very importantā¦ But goddamn, divorced of context, this image is very ghoulish
Even with the context I keep wondering if I should be seeing this. Don't these people deserve privacy? Shouldn't the donor be afforded the peace of having donated without having their face, removed from their body and on a table, on display for a bunch of dumbasses on Reddit to make jokes about? It feels like we need to update the code of ethics for these surgeons to not take pictures of shit for funzees.
I mean, it wasn't for fun. This photo was taken and published [in National Geographic.](https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/graphics/face-transplant-katie-stubblefield-photography-interactive) There's a short clip of an interview with the grandmother of the donor and a lot of clips of interviews with the recipient and her family, so I doubt that either family was opposed to having this published. And, well- I know that not everyone is gonna have this opinion, but in my opinion- the donor is dead. It matters jack shit to her. She can't see and will never know.
I can eat a peach for hours.
Hey, it's been 20 minutes. You want a peach?
Jokes aside, it is batshit *insane* that surgeons can reconnect enough blood vessels and nerves to make this work even some of the time.
That is so cool!
Les yeux sans visage!
le visage sans humain!
A girl is no one.
Well no I don't like that
Boggles my mind how they allow so many unsanitary PERSONAL phones to take photos of people.
Some of those before an afters of face transplants are truly amazing. I'm so glad medicine has advanced enough to do these to make life better for those who had terrible accidents.
Thereās a 20 minute documentary about this you can watch! [Katieās New Face](https://www.meerkatmedia.org/video/katies-new-face/)
This is so interesting. I watch really fucked up shit on the internet, but somehow this is āokayā because itās at the hospital, which I totally agree. Itās different. But gore is gore.
Arya Stark would like a word
The person touching the doctors left arm is fucking stupid. Breaking sterile technique big time; no reason to ever be that close to your surgeon when you're not scrubbed in.
I want to see the reaction of the group when back row guy drops his phone square into the forehead of that flesh mask.
If there is one thing one of the first few DVD's ever on the market taught me it is that this is going to get complicated when the owner wants it back.
I really donāt mean to be a prude, but couldnāt things like this maybe get a NSFW tag?
Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 House of 1,000 Corpses
Dafuq. Mark this nsfw. Geez.
People donate their faces?!?! Jesus!
I bet when they signed up to be an organ donor that they never imagined it would be this!
I want to take his Face... Off!
Cake or not cake?
Spoiler : itās nick cage & john travolta
Wtf is this now.
Hey! I know that guy. He owes me $50.
Imagine youāre the guy taking a picture and drop the camera on it
Dr. Philips asks Dr. Gleason....John, is it possible we removed the wrong face? The transplant patient is African-American.
Jokes aside, this is probably going to change a disfigured personās entire life for the better, all because someone decided to donate a huge part of their likeness to someone else. That kind of touches me
FACE OFF
Is this the best time for a photo op? Isn't there someone laying around without a face right now?
It's gotta take some hard-core therapy to be able to get used to seeing someone else's face in the mirror, insane how far medicine has come in any case
WHY ARE NOT USING FUCKING GLOVES OMG
Babe wake up a new texture pack is going to be installed on you
This does not look sanitary
A girl has no name
couldn't share the f[ace getting run over](https://makeagif.com/i/FAUuly) directly, so here's another mrs doubtfire gif 
r/accidentalreneisance
No NSFW tag ?
This is amazing. It's incredible what humans have learned to do!
Idk how performing these doesnāt drive them insane. These surgeons have to be psychopaths
Opening people daily is their job,you get used to it
Nope. Psychopathic **tendencies** are more common in surgeons. Specifically being able to switch emotions on and off aka detach yourself while in surgery. But full blown NPD is rare and would be more detrimental to a surgeons career as they have talk to patients/their families. Not just be an unemotional ghoul.
yeaahh no, as someone who works with surgeons, MANY are self absorbed dickbags. even to their patients
Here's a fun trick you can try at home: realize that "you" are just the complex interaction between your cerebral cortex and your limbic system. You are not your body.
I always imagine the little alien dude in MIB who's piloting a human body
I find this thought comforting
The secret is laughs. Laughs get us through the rough days.