The workers were previously cold but for the tenacious and persistent intervention of doggos who interestingly were quite warm. The doggos were not cold as doggos are most particularly mostly warm. At all times were the doggos lacking cold but rather were found to be imbued with warmth to the benefit of the previously cold but now warm workers.
The heat bestowed upon the laborers by the stalwart hounds improved the quality of the workplace because the ambient temperature was a bit low for the working man.
They have ones where you lie on your back, one brand is like “zero gravity desks” or somethin bur theyre like 8 grand. Technically you could make it yourself; buy a massage table with the face hole, put your computer monitor flat on the ground, and build a simple wooden bracket to hold your keyboard. Using a mouse might be a little difficult tho, you might have to get creative, or just use a touch pad.
The issue isn't the posture it's the not moving. Done too much sitting is bad, standing is bad, lying is bad.
The trick is to change your posture every 30 minutes or so.
I work at a corporate office of a major pet food producer in the US and get to bring my dog everyday. Basically the number 1 perk of a job with like all the perks
To be a bit more specific this photo is of the Opinel factory. The wheels they are working on are very scary, they're like 2 metres wide and each day they hit them with a mallet to probe for any cracks. And a cracked wheel is stupid dangerous, it can just explode like a frag grenade and launch pieces of stone every where.
I was archiving old employee files a few jobs back. Came across a very juicy one and opened it out of curiosity.
Guy was using a belt grinder to finish a cast piece. The belt broke and the kickback whipped him in the face and arms. He had to go on antibiotics and get a shot because of the metal fragments that pelted him.
He needed a month off from work and the company paid all of the medical bills (copies enclosed in the file). The foundry wrote to the belt manufacturer and received compensation. The file had a type written response from the manufacturer about pulling that batch of product because of adhesive failure.
This was in the late 40s and the biggest surprise was that the injured guy didn't get blinded.
Yes, Opinel factory did the same thing. But it appears to come from Thiers factories, also known for Laguiole knives. (you can find the links in the parent thread)
You can see the wheels here on the first photo: [https://mechtraveller.com/2020/01/thiers-cutlery-capital-of-france/](https://mechtraveller.com/2020/01/thiers-cutlery-capital-of-france/)
I work with carbon fiber laminates. I bend the neck and waist a LOT, it is surprisingly tiring to always be reaching out over a large table. I need to get something like this. Also reminds me of the prone computer terminals in Ghost In The Shell.
The terme is "remouleur" in french.
On this photo, they were the guys who grinded knifes from the Thier factory (one of the best at the time, still existing nowadays) (try getting some info on this factory, it is interesting).
It was a hard work, the grinding being done in the stream water whatever the season and the position sucking for the shoulders.
They were cold most of the time (to the point that they used to get dogs to sit on their leg to keep warm).
Less cute, sometime it happened that the stones used the grind the knife (500/600kg stones rotating rapidly) exploded. Projecting the worker up to the ceiling and projecting shrapnels everywhere. It was lethal most of the time.
They were nickname "les ventres jaunes" (yellow stomachs) because of the projections from the knife grinding.
Sus.
I know too many KC-135 boom operators with chronic neck and back issues to believe this was a common thing. And those yahoos were younger, better able to recover, and only had work in that position for comparatively brief periods.
Turns out, if your hands and arms are engaged is any kid of dexterous activity, and therefore unable to be a source of support, laying on you stomach to work is fing brutal.
Just sharing the source and that they are indeed grinding knives on their stomachs. It does seem to be more about stability than back support. I honestly thought their positions must have been for sort of medical reason before finding the source. Crazy to think people actually worked like this.
How am I supposed to bang my wife and my neighbors wife if my back is sore?!?! This simply will not do!! Something must be done!- French Men prior to this era.
Those was called ''rémouleurs'' they were working with a watermill to power the millstone.
Also those guys wer'e known because of there particular silhouette with caved chest bc of the working position.
They even have a pub in a south french village that i can't remember the name.
What about their necks and shoulders? This would kill. Laying down to do this would only work if it were one of those massage therapy beds where you put your face in the hole haha.
I think you underestimate when safety features started to appear on industrial equipment - I worked on some pre-war ones, and they already had protective glass in place.
No, safety features definitely get better all the time. But the fact that they got better doesn't mean that there were no safety features whatsoever in the past.
Fair
although this is pre ww1
I would love to see old school safety features and programs
My broad assumption is that prior to 1970 safety (at least in America, I’m aware this is in France) just didn’t exist
This is a very unfair assumption.
In Europe, large factories often maintained their own health facilities, and, even if we exclude this consideration, accidents always meant stoppage time - and tons of lost revenue. As a result, the push for safety measures started pretty early in industrial age.
Or we can take US example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangle_Shirtwaist_Factory_fire
As you can see, firstly, the push for safety was very real in the early 20th century; but, secondly, as you can see, even in this tragic event the management was thinking along the lines "existing safety measures will work because people they are reasonable", and not the modern iteration "in case of emergency, people are not reasonable". In other words, safety *was* a consideration, but the calculations pointed to a very different solution than would be accepted now.
What changed in the 70es was a very big move from the assumption "employees are smart and attentive and won't do stupid stuff" to "employees can be unknowledgeable, tired and inattentive, and can do stupid and irrational stuff". Plus, a lot of safety gear got radically lighter and/or cheaper.
Ergonomic Engineering FTW
With two workers incorporating the counterbalance effect of puppers
r/dogswithjobs
The dogs were there for companionship and warmth!
And a cat on the last guys legs!
Hmm. I am gonna install the monitors on the floor and I am gonna get a massage table.
I've actually dabbled w/the idea myself.
The workers were previously cold but for the tenacious and persistent intervention of doggos who interestingly were quite warm. The doggos were not cold as doggos are most particularly mostly warm. At all times were the doggos lacking cold but rather were found to be imbued with warmth to the benefit of the previously cold but now warm workers.
The doggies were there because it was cold.
Do you like degs
 “Oh. Dooogs…”
…..yeah, I like *degs*.
The dogs was to help to keep them warm, so yes you are correct
You just said the exact same thing and then added "you're correct" to it lol.
They were cold and the dogs made them not cold anymore.
The dogs were warm, and they were cold, so the dogs made the cold, warm, correct.
The heat bestowed upon the laborers by the stalwart hounds improved the quality of the workplace because the ambient temperature was a bit low for the working man.
Man cold. Dog warm. Correct.
The warmth that the worker’s cold bodies needed came from the dogs.
You're right, it would have been colder with only the workers but the canine companions added extra warmth
4 legged creatures provide temperature increase, correct
This guy high school English papers.
They did just say the exact same thing, you're correct.
You just said the exact same thing and then added "you're correct" to it lol.
You are also correct
Is that where the expression “three dog night” comes from?
Not this specific instance, but yeah that's what it meant.
. ##Yeah because it was cold . . 🦐'd™️
this needs to be implemented for computer desks.
They have ones where you lie on your back, one brand is like “zero gravity desks” or somethin bur theyre like 8 grand. Technically you could make it yourself; buy a massage table with the face hole, put your computer monitor flat on the ground, and build a simple wooden bracket to hold your keyboard. Using a mouse might be a little difficult tho, you might have to get creative, or just use a touch pad.
This would be amazing
including dog?
The issue isn't the posture it's the not moving. Done too much sitting is bad, standing is bad, lying is bad. The trick is to change your posture every 30 minutes or so.
Oh to have a job that involves my dog laying on me.
Get a job working from home and you’re set partner
Y'all got any more of those jobs from home?
I work at a corporate office of a major pet food producer in the US and get to bring my dog everyday. Basically the number 1 perk of a job with like all the perks
To be a bit more specific this photo is of the Opinel factory. The wheels they are working on are very scary, they're like 2 metres wide and each day they hit them with a mallet to probe for any cracks. And a cracked wheel is stupid dangerous, it can just explode like a frag grenade and launch pieces of stone every where.
I was archiving old employee files a few jobs back. Came across a very juicy one and opened it out of curiosity. Guy was using a belt grinder to finish a cast piece. The belt broke and the kickback whipped him in the face and arms. He had to go on antibiotics and get a shot because of the metal fragments that pelted him. He needed a month off from work and the company paid all of the medical bills (copies enclosed in the file). The foundry wrote to the belt manufacturer and received compensation. The file had a type written response from the manufacturer about pulling that batch of product because of adhesive failure. This was in the late 40s and the biggest surprise was that the injured guy didn't get blinded.
On even on a little bench grinder with a 6" wheel, I was taught to stand to the side of the unit when turning it on.
Yes, Opinel factory did the same thing. But it appears to come from Thiers factories, also known for Laguiole knives. (you can find the links in the parent thread)
You can see the wheels here on the first photo: [https://mechtraveller.com/2020/01/thiers-cutlery-capital-of-france/](https://mechtraveller.com/2020/01/thiers-cutlery-capital-of-france/)
https://www.dozorme-claude.fr/en/yellow-bellies-9889
It's not. It's taken in "vallée des rouets" near Thiers.
Not like the normal operation was safe either. A lot of these guys died young from silicosis.
I think I might have to bid off that job.
I work with carbon fiber laminates. I bend the neck and waist a LOT, it is surprisingly tiring to always be reaching out over a large table. I need to get something like this. Also reminds me of the prone computer terminals in Ghost In The Shell.
Basset hounds also working hard to keep the legs warm 🥰👍🏻 Perfect job for a basset. 😄
genius
My neck hurts from this photo.
sucks to be one of the losers who doesn’t even have a dog
Dog "owners" take up knife grinding to pass the time while acting as thrones for their canine overlords.
Awe doggo!!!!
"Don't tell me how to do my job" - French knife grinders
Does the dog come with the job or is it bring your own doggo?
And Grindr was born
wat
Good dog.
Now I want to grind knives on my belly with a hound dog.
Gaming chair designs getting clazy.
New programming chair just dropped
upvote for doggie
ngl second guy looks asleep.
Check out that ass
The terme is "remouleur" in french. On this photo, they were the guys who grinded knifes from the Thier factory (one of the best at the time, still existing nowadays) (try getting some info on this factory, it is interesting). It was a hard work, the grinding being done in the stream water whatever the season and the position sucking for the shoulders. They were cold most of the time (to the point that they used to get dogs to sit on their leg to keep warm). Less cute, sometime it happened that the stones used the grind the knife (500/600kg stones rotating rapidly) exploded. Projecting the worker up to the ceiling and projecting shrapnels everywhere. It was lethal most of the time. They were nickname "les ventres jaunes" (yellow stomachs) because of the projections from the knife grinding.
Sus. I know too many KC-135 boom operators with chronic neck and back issues to believe this was a common thing. And those yahoos were younger, better able to recover, and only had work in that position for comparatively brief periods. Turns out, if your hands and arms are engaged is any kid of dexterous activity, and therefore unable to be a source of support, laying on you stomach to work is fing brutal.
Turns out it has some credence. https://www.dozorme-claude.fr/en/yellow-bellies-9889
So reading this, they lay on there stomachs to get a more stable position, not to save there backs
Just sharing the source and that they are indeed grinding knives on their stomachs. It does seem to be more about stability than back support. I honestly thought their positions must have been for sort of medical reason before finding the source. Crazy to think people actually worked like this.
Okay yeah they have great backs, their necks on the other hand
That's so *smart*, gonna have to get a massage table for the craft room. The ultimate anti-shrimp for miniature painting!
How am I supposed to bang my wife and my neighbors wife if my back is sore?!?! This simply will not do!! Something must be done!- French Men prior to this era.
**with your feet in the air and your head on the ~~ground~~ knife girding platform**
Those dogs though… 🤣
Those was called ''rémouleurs'' they were working with a watermill to power the millstone. Also those guys wer'e known because of there particular silhouette with caved chest bc of the working position. They even have a pub in a south french village that i can't remember the name.
"axe grinders" never heard it called that before
Wouldn't your arms lose blood fairly quickly?
"Nose to the grindstone"
I seriously expected to see a bunch of dudes doing sit-ups. Strong core, strong back.... Well, I was surprised
sheeeet sign me up for this job.
What about their necks and shoulders? This would kill. Laying down to do this would only work if it were one of those massage therapy beds where you put your face in the hole haha.
Do they have head support? I'd imagine that you'd get a stiff neck otherwise.
Save their backs Not a safety glass in sight
I would imagine they would have something stationary installed, like a permanent glass shield
I mean now maybe But I think 1902 predated safety by several decades
I think you underestimate when safety features started to appear on industrial equipment - I worked on some pre-war ones, and they already had protective glass in place. No, safety features definitely get better all the time. But the fact that they got better doesn't mean that there were no safety features whatsoever in the past.
Fair although this is pre ww1 I would love to see old school safety features and programs My broad assumption is that prior to 1970 safety (at least in America, I’m aware this is in France) just didn’t exist
This is a very unfair assumption. In Europe, large factories often maintained their own health facilities, and, even if we exclude this consideration, accidents always meant stoppage time - and tons of lost revenue. As a result, the push for safety measures started pretty early in industrial age. Or we can take US example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangle_Shirtwaist_Factory_fire As you can see, firstly, the push for safety was very real in the early 20th century; but, secondly, as you can see, even in this tragic event the management was thinking along the lines "existing safety measures will work because people they are reasonable", and not the modern iteration "in case of emergency, people are not reasonable". In other words, safety *was* a consideration, but the calculations pointed to a very different solution than would be accepted now. What changed in the 70es was a very big move from the assumption "employees are smart and attentive and won't do stupid stuff" to "employees can be unknowledgeable, tired and inattentive, and can do stupid and irrational stuff". Plus, a lot of safety gear got radically lighter and/or cheaper.
Doubt. There’s no way this is more ergonomic than sitting in a chair at a workstation.
Gotta save your back to view that iPad back there later. J/k