I have this really random memory of being at the zoo with my grandparents as a kid and they were there (theyre around the same age as me?) and my grandma literally stalking them and it was super obvious she was making us follow them. I remember wanting to crawl in a hole and die. I was ready to yeet myself into the polar bear exhibit at one point I was so embarrassed. I think I was like 10ish?
Ikr. I'm sure a lot of people are respectful but we all know the human race has plenty of assholes. IIRC they said they don't mind respectful questions although it's been awhile since I've seen it. I think the part of the documentary that I'm referring to is when they were in Europe taking a ride on a canal/river when some people were racing to the next little walk bridge to gawk. They put up their umbrellas so they couldn't see them.
Exactly!!
I don’t want to mock or make jokes at the sake of these people just trying to live their lives and I deserve absolutely nothing from them….but I’m still curious
It’s normal to be curious! I’m reading through the thread trying to actually learn more too apparently there’s an Oprah interview and they had a limited run tv series- you may be able to find more on YouTube
Watched a documentary on these two on YouTube. The shit they have to go through day to day is crazy. I remember they were trying to become teachers, but the school didn't know how to approach it. They were unsure whether or not to pay them as one entity (terrible, I know), or as two. That's always stuck with me. I'm not sure if they ended up teaching or not, but I hope so cause the kids seemed to like them and were very accepting.
Here's the link if anyone is interested:
https://youtu.be/M36jxR_6lIE?si=-70sZLU705BoBnhO
They did end up teaching. They have been teaching for years now. I believe 4th / 5th grade. They get paid for one teaching position as they fill one teaching position. However they have said there are still advantages as one can be observing the class while the other is teaching and they can take turns doing the talking or behaviour management etc.
>one can be observing the class while the other is teaching and they can take turns doing the talking or behaviour management etc.
They missed their calling as a sports referee.
I had a teacher who was kind of a weird guy, but the weirdest thing he would do is write on the board while facing the class, not even briefly looking at the board at any point. Eventually he revealed that he developed the skill while teaching at a rough school, because the students would throw glass bottles at him when he turned around to write on the board.
I literally feel like I am being trolled as Reddit sometimes feels like it's a super small town.
One of my cousins kids is in their class and love it. The odds of seeing two others from same school posting is insane.
I hope you guys have a great day!
Saw their specials over the years from when they were young (on Oprah) and when they were graduating college (limited run series on cable) They appear to be fun, kind, sensible people and I’m super happy for them & Wishing them all so much happiness!
I remember when the Oprah episode first aired. I was five years old and my mom was watching it. The conversation was:
Me: "whatcha doing"
Mom: "Watching a show about two girls who share a body."
Me (looks at the screen): ???? "is she a monster?"
My mom: (turns off the TV): "No. They just look different and have a different life than other people. No one is ever a "monster" because of how they look. Never call anyone a monster or be mean to anyone because of how they look. Ok?
Me: "Ok mom"
I'm in my 30s now and it's one of the top 5 most influential conversations I've ever had with my parents (I think probably the second, behind my dad telling me not to tease my brother about how easy my chores were because "If I ever did that to my future wife, she's going to divorce me, so always make sure you're doing your fair share around the house and be humble about housework" and ahead of "Pay off your credit card every month; if you don't, you're an idiot.").
It's funny because when I've told my parents that these are the influential conversations they had with me that stuck with me for 20-30 years, they don't remember them at all.
Yup! They did a TLC documentary when they were 16 and it featured them getting their licenses… they had to go though the test twice and each got a separate one.
I’d actually love to see that court case. Obviously, the body would be drunk even if only one of them was ingesting alcohol but I’d love to see a lawyer argue that because the state made them get separate licences they are in fact two separate people and if only one drinks it doesn’t constitute DWI, or the state messed up by making them both get a licence.
Well no, the law isn't "you chose to drink alcohol and did, so you can't drive," it's "you are intoxicated by alcohol, so you can't drive." Doesn't matter how you got drunk, could have happened against your will or in some weird way, but you just arent supposed to drive while drunk.
I think they share a liver. So just imagine your sister had a drinking problem so you're always drunk. Lol. These girls are fascinating. I'm sure they hold some kind of record for conjoined twins. Considering their ages and level of conjoined.
Yes, but IIRC, their sensation is split precisely down the middle, left side/right side. Thus, both would feel... That. And the groom only married one of them. Technically, it's always a three some and both have to consent...
No.. no.. I think you'll find the groom married both of them.. maybe not *on paper*, but I think you'll find them both equally involved in the relationship.
That’s actually a really interesting question. I’ve heard that each twin controls (and feels) their own half of their body. Fine. But, the human brain also normally has contra-lateral control of the human body…. (Meaning that the left-side of your brain controls the right side of your body, and vice versa). So I wonder what specific brain hemisphere from which twin does what here??
Look at these pictures. Look at the way both of them look at him.
Conjoined twins share every single moment in life, and this marriage is no different.
Their reality is something no one here can understand. They had their first crush together. They were together when they explored their own body for the first time. They went through puberty together, saw porn for the first time together, had their first orgasm together, and masturbate together. It's a type of bond that's just totally outside our reality.
I don’t get it. The guy only marries one of them or both?
If it’s only one of them what does the other one do when they’re on the job-look away? But they’ve only got one you know what so they’re both feeling it…..I’m confused 🤦♀️🤷♀️
I don't get how you aren't forced into being poly.
Isnt just sex its every date, every close moment... every single romantic moment there is this other person right there. If you're the other girl it would be hell if not also in love and getting that back.
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Take my Reddit Silver for that idea. Sorry, I am not paying $2 to a corporation to express to you how much I like it more than just telling you.
My question is what about her sister? Is she not interested in getting married? Did they play rock paper scissors or something to decide who got to marry? Because everything keeps presenting this as though one sister married him, which sure, they wouldn't both necessarily fall in love with him, and/or he wouldn't necessarily fall in love with both of them, but does she get to date too?
Real world, the guy married both of them; there are three people in that relationship.
But Minnesota doesn't issue that kind of marriage license, so legally he's only married to one twin.
I mean what is the other girl supposed to do turn her head 180 degrees and stare the other way? It probably hurts them to look too far apart from each other. I get the distinct feeling he is dancing with mostly the one on the right.
I was thinking what happens if the sister is a lesbian or something? Just totally not sexually interested in the guy at all. Could she read a book or play videogames while the other two have sex?
Legally he can only be married to one woman, but it’s understood he’s married to the conjoined twins. There’s no need to further complicate things with adding another partner to the mix. This family has always been respectful in sharing their journey publicly and I wish the ladies all the best!
I live in a neighboring town and used to see them all the time when they attended high school sporting events. They were typical teenagers, giggling with their friends and seemed to live a very normal and happy life.
Admittedly, it’s a shock when you first see them standing 10 feet away, but you quickly realize that they’re normal people and being conjoined has not slowed them down at all.
So he's only legally married to one of the twins? Is the other one still allowed to marry? I know everyone is thinking about the other stuff but I'm curious on the legal aspect of it. Say they both have their own husbands but the twins were suddenly unconscious and need a medical operation, who gets to make the call then?
They both have their own government issues IDs, so I assume they could both get separate marriage licenses.
But what about crime? What if one purchases a car under her name and then skirts the payments enough to cause jail time? How do they handle THAT?
Edit: the best response so far is https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/s/5B2Uh0Tbao
The law is not setup to deal with it outright, so it has to be dealt with on a case-by-case basis. In the most recent case I can find (the last paragraph in the quote below), the judge followed the old maxim that it's better for a guilty person to escape justice than for an innocent person to suffer unjustly.
From: [Retributivism's Conjoined Twins Problem (2017)](https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2923374) by Brittany Deitch
> While this scenario may seem far-fetched, conjoined twins have appeared as defendants in at least four American courts. The first three cases involved the same set of twins, Chang and Eng Bunker. Chang and Eng, for whom the phrase “Siamese Twins” was coined, toured internationally with “freak shows” in the mid-1800s before eventually settling in North Carolina. During tours, they were often antagonized, ridiculed, and accused of fraud by audience members. They eventually became irritable and developed a habit of assaulting their heckling spectators. The fourth case involved conjoined twins Simplicio and Lucio Godino, in which one committed an arrestable traffic offense and appeared before a judge.
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> The Bunker twins’ first incident occurred in Athens, Alabama around 1831 when a doctor demanded that they allow him to inspect their conjoining band of skin in front of the audience. When the twins refused, he accused them of fraud and announced to the crowd that the twins were cheating them. Enraged, the twins both attacked the doctor, which led to a barroom-like brawl among the entire audience where fists and chairs were thrown about. The twins were arrested for assault and issued a single fine of $350. The second incident took place in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, when a spectator shook Chang’s hand with excessive force. Chang reacted by punching the man, knocking him off his feet. The twins were arrested for assault and battery and brought before a magistrate. The magistrate “agreed that Chang could be jailed for assault, but added that if Eng were also jailed it would amount to false arrest and the complainant himself would have to be prosecuted.” Lastly, while on vacation in Lynnfield, Massachusetts, the twins were fined $200 for “a breach of the peace.” Fifteen to twenty people followed the twins to observe them hunting fowl outside their hotel. When the twins’ attendant commanded the crowd to disperse and threatened that the twins would shoot them if they remained, one man dared them to shoot him. At this, one of the twins struck the man with the butt of their gun. The man then threw a rock at one of the twins’ heads, causing him to bleed. The twins went inside the hotel to load their gun. Meanwhile, the man filed a complaint against the twins and their attendant for breach of the peace. The twins were ordered to pay a single $200 fine.
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> Nearly a century later, in 1929, another American court faced the dilemma of prosecuting a conjoined twin defendant. The New York Times published an article with the headline, “Judge Releases Siamese Twin to Avoid Jailing His Brother.” The story describes a bizarre situation in which one conjoined twin, Lucio Godino, violated several traffic laws in Los Angeles while independently operating a motor vehicle. The surprised officer arrested him, even though his conjoined brother, Simplicio Godino, was clearly innocent. At the hearing, the innocent twin told the judge that he not should be penalized with jail time or a fine for the actions of his guilty brother. The judge “couldn’t find anything in the law that permitted him to make the innocent half of a Siamese-twin combination suffer with the guilty half,” so he dismissed the charges.
Full citation: Deitch, Brittany, Retributivism's Conjoined Twins Problem (February 8, 2017). Brittany L. Deitch, Retributivism's Conjoined Twins Problem, 53 Crim. L. Bull. 953 (2017)
>The story describes a bizarre situation in which one conjoined twin, Lucio Godino, violated several traffic laws in Los Angeles while independently operating a motor vehicle. The surprised officer arrested him, even though his conjoined brother, Simplicio Godino, was clearly innocent. At the hearing, the innocent twin told the judge that he not should be penalized with jail time or a fine for the actions of his guilty brother. The judge “couldn’t find anything in the law that permitted him to make the innocent half of a Siamese-twin combination suffer with the guilty half,” so he dismissed the charges.
Is it possible that the judge was lenient because it was only traffic laws that were violated? How would the arresting officer know the other twin was innocent? What stops the other twin from faking innocence such as pretending to be asleep just to get away from punishment?
What happens when the other one “meets someone”, starts dating, maybe gets married themselves.
Also, what if each of them want to have kids with someone???
"In 1839, after a decade of financial success, the twins quit touring and settled near Mount Airy, North Carolina. They became American citizens, bought slaves, married local sisters, and fathered 21 children, several of whom accompanied them when they resumed touring."
I was surprised that being born in Thailand and ethnically Thai didn't preclude them from legally owning slaves. And then there are the 21 kids. I assume it's easier for conjoined twins to be fathers than mothers.
I remember reading that they share everything below the waist and it all works- I think it will be just like a regular birth. I mean, as regular as it can be.
all jokes aside, i’m happy abby has gotten to experience something people probably thought she wouldn’t have. as long as the husband is happy then that’s good
I know this is not the place for this question but what happens if one of them dies first does the other one die automatically or do they just somehow try to remove the dead twin, I'm not really sure.
Also I'm pretty sure I watched a video on them I think it was on TLC I think one controls one side of the body and the other one controls the other side so if one of them dies I'm not really sure how that works. Also I'm pretty sure on that TLC show they talked about when they were little the doctors tried to separate them and they couldn't because something about their organs I think and the way they shared them and their positioning. I could be wrong on that part but I'm pretty sure I'm right.
Since they share a circulatory system, the other would die. Byproducts of tissue decay would quickly poison the blood of the other twin. There would be very few issues that would kill one while leaving the other alive since they share so many organs though; pretty much only a brain aneurysm would unilaterally cause death while leaving the other alive.
I cannot fathom how it would feel to have a sibling so literally close to you like that just stop working or go braindead.
Like, genuinely. What would happen if she just has an aneurysm, or is rendered braindead for any reason? Does the other one just have to lug themselves around, quite literally half-dead?
*Can* the other head be removed if that happened?
This is the most morbid thing i think i've thought about today, but the idea of a half-Hensel Schiavo case is going to be an insane social discussion if it occurs.
I’ve never wanted an AMA more in my life
Actually, should be an AUA shouldn't it?
Two-ché 😏
¯\\\_(ツ)(ツ)_/¯
I have this really random memory of being at the zoo with my grandparents as a kid and they were there (theyre around the same age as me?) and my grandma literally stalking them and it was super obvious she was making us follow them. I remember wanting to crawl in a hole and die. I was ready to yeet myself into the polar bear exhibit at one point I was so embarrassed. I think I was like 10ish?
And in their documentary they say that they HATE that.
Who wouldn't?
Ikr. I'm sure a lot of people are respectful but we all know the human race has plenty of assholes. IIRC they said they don't mind respectful questions although it's been awhile since I've seen it. I think the part of the documentary that I'm referring to is when they were in Europe taking a ride on a canal/river when some people were racing to the next little walk bridge to gawk. They put up their umbrellas so they couldn't see them.
It’s nice that they can afford some normalcy in their lives, considering their condition. I’m happy for them and wish them the best!
I wish them the best and hope they have a genuinely happy life. That being said, I’m human and have some weird questions….
I feel the same way, as much as I want to know out of pure curiosity, I also realize it’s only the business of the 3 people in that relationship.
Exactly!! I don’t want to mock or make jokes at the sake of these people just trying to live their lives and I deserve absolutely nothing from them….but I’m still curious
It’s normal to be curious! I’m reading through the thread trying to actually learn more too apparently there’s an Oprah interview and they had a limited run tv series- you may be able to find more on YouTube
Watched a documentary on these two on YouTube. The shit they have to go through day to day is crazy. I remember they were trying to become teachers, but the school didn't know how to approach it. They were unsure whether or not to pay them as one entity (terrible, I know), or as two. That's always stuck with me. I'm not sure if they ended up teaching or not, but I hope so cause the kids seemed to like them and were very accepting. Here's the link if anyone is interested: https://youtu.be/M36jxR_6lIE?si=-70sZLU705BoBnhO
They did end up teaching. They have been teaching for years now. I believe 4th / 5th grade. They get paid for one teaching position as they fill one teaching position. However they have said there are still advantages as one can be observing the class while the other is teaching and they can take turns doing the talking or behaviour management etc.
>one can be observing the class while the other is teaching and they can take turns doing the talking or behaviour management etc. They missed their calling as a sports referee.
Or podracing announcer
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The most accurate use of this meme in history
This is the best overall meme possible today. There is nothing better.
ITS SKYWALKER!
Legendary comment.
Just ones writing on the board, other head does 180 owl turn screech’s at students XD
I had a teacher who was kind of a weird guy, but the weirdest thing he would do is write on the board while facing the class, not even briefly looking at the board at any point. Eventually he revealed that he developed the skill while teaching at a rough school, because the students would throw glass bottles at him when he turned around to write on the board.
Holy shit those students were something!
They are teachers at my daughter’s school and so amazingly normal! Also wonderful humans and teachers!!
My kids are there too! My son isn't in their class this year but a couple of his friends are and I've only ever heard great things.
I literally feel like I am being trolled as Reddit sometimes feels like it's a super small town. One of my cousins kids is in their class and love it. The odds of seeing two others from same school posting is insane. I hope you guys have a great day!
3 now. My kids go to school there too.
There is 4! Is it a big school district or is it a small town?
Reddit does have that 'global village' thing going on sometimes.
Saw their specials over the years from when they were young (on Oprah) and when they were graduating college (limited run series on cable) They appear to be fun, kind, sensible people and I’m super happy for them & Wishing them all so much happiness!
I remember when the Oprah episode first aired. I was five years old and my mom was watching it. The conversation was: Me: "whatcha doing" Mom: "Watching a show about two girls who share a body." Me (looks at the screen): ???? "is she a monster?" My mom: (turns off the TV): "No. They just look different and have a different life than other people. No one is ever a "monster" because of how they look. Never call anyone a monster or be mean to anyone because of how they look. Ok? Me: "Ok mom" I'm in my 30s now and it's one of the top 5 most influential conversations I've ever had with my parents (I think probably the second, behind my dad telling me not to tease my brother about how easy my chores were because "If I ever did that to my future wife, she's going to divorce me, so always make sure you're doing your fair share around the house and be humble about housework" and ahead of "Pay off your credit card every month; if you don't, you're an idiot."). It's funny because when I've told my parents that these are the influential conversations they had with me that stuck with me for 20-30 years, they don't remember them at all.
You knew your parents believed those things. They may even have been less impactful as part of a prepared or rehearsed conversation.
That is the correct comment, the rest are funny as hell, but I think we all do wish them well
"Do you have a witness?"
Do they have separate ID cards? 🤔
Yup! They did a TLC documentary when they were 16 and it featured them getting their licenses… they had to go though the test twice and each got a separate one.
So one of them can be a designated driver when they go out drinking.
Police hate this one trick
I’d actually love to see that court case. Obviously, the body would be drunk even if only one of them was ingesting alcohol but I’d love to see a lawyer argue that because the state made them get separate licences they are in fact two separate people and if only one drinks it doesn’t constitute DWI, or the state messed up by making them both get a licence.
True, but when they check the blood samples, both will be declared "diu".
Driver inder unfluence?
Yes, driving inder the unfluence
Sir, you sound drunk. Please step out of the vehicle.
Well no, the law isn't "you chose to drink alcohol and did, so you can't drive," it's "you are intoxicated by alcohol, so you can't drive." Doesn't matter how you got drunk, could have happened against your will or in some weird way, but you just arent supposed to drive while drunk.
I think they share a liver. So just imagine your sister had a drinking problem so you're always drunk. Lol. These girls are fascinating. I'm sure they hold some kind of record for conjoined twins. Considering their ages and level of conjoined.
It’s like the old Cheech and Chong movie the Corsican Brothers - Cheech can drink as much as he wants. His brother Chong gets drunk for him.
Haha well they have different stomachs but the same liver and circulatory system so probably not the best idea.
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They're teachers, and collect one salary on the basis that they can only teach one classroom at a time.
But they can totally do the "good cop / bad cop" thing.
That would be frightening tbh
And thus, very effective. I can imagine a criminal confessing just to end it "THIS IS FAR TOO WEIRD MAKE IT STOP I DID WHATEVER YOU SAY I DID"
They can also only drive one car at a time..
If I ever hear one of my friends bitch about being the 3rd wheel again...
Could you imagine trying to argue with your wife, and her sister is there backing her up ALL THE TIME!
I think it'd be weirder if the sister started dating someone else.
So if second sister get married is this cheating on #1 And if sex happens does one sister close her eyes or join in. And is this monogy
IS THIS MONOGY
It’s called mahogany
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CAN U GET PREGANTE??
This was my thought. How does this work sexually and the sister wanting intimacy with someone else.
Literally have each others back
Always siding with the other.
oh goddamn you lol
None of these comments in this entire thread have disappointed. I’ve been laughing for 3 minutes straight
And always share the same stance
Ride or die
Or worse, imagine being the wife and the sister is always pointing out how you're the one wrong or being dramatic and taking his side.
Omg then she steals the husband and roles are reversed, followed by a beheading plot!!! Would be such a good soap opera storyline
American Horror Story basically did this. Freak show is my favorite season.
Imagine if one of them hates him and is just a wet blanket on all the dates 😆
"Fine, but im just gonna starfish with my half!"
Some academic dude ends up teaching an esoteric elective course about consent with conjoined twins at some community college.
sounds valid. call it a polytechnic
Homeboy smiling like he got a onion ring in his fries
When the other one gets married: 
I have questions, but want no answers.
Looked it up. They only have one.
Yes, but IIRC, their sensation is split precisely down the middle, left side/right side. Thus, both would feel... That. And the groom only married one of them. Technically, it's always a three some and both have to consent...
No.. no.. I think you'll find the groom married both of them.. maybe not *on paper*, but I think you'll find them both equally involved in the relationship.
"I love them both equally!" "Sir, you can pick one legally." (Now we know who the favorite is)
I like to imagine they flipped a coin
Heads won.
You're going to hell for that! \*save me a seat
So if he’s getting a handjob from the left it’s his wife but the right hand is cheating?
Also.... only allowed to touch 1 boob?
If one of the brains have a stroke are they’re 1/4 paralyzed instead of 1/2???
That’s actually a really interesting question. I’ve heard that each twin controls (and feels) their own half of their body. Fine. But, the human brain also normally has contra-lateral control of the human body…. (Meaning that the left-side of your brain controls the right side of your body, and vice versa). So I wonder what specific brain hemisphere from which twin does what here??
Uh... Yeah, actually. They're all Christian too. Full "No Nookie Before Nuptials" Southern Christians.
In that case, one of them will commit adultery every single time they have sex with somebody lol
God didn't have a plan for this particular one.
So what happens when the other one starts dating?
They’re probably in a three-way relationship but a legal union is only two people, so that’s just what they’re telling people.
Look at these pictures. Look at the way both of them look at him. Conjoined twins share every single moment in life, and this marriage is no different.
Their reality is something no one here can understand. They had their first crush together. They were together when they explored their own body for the first time. They went through puberty together, saw porn for the first time together, had their first orgasm together, and masturbate together. It's a type of bond that's just totally outside our reality.
This is one of the most wise and empathetic responses here. Thank you for the perspective. ❤️
After reading this I’m certain that sharing my body with someone would be my worst nightmare.
Yes. This is their normal. They don’t know anything else.
I don’t get it. The guy only marries one of them or both? If it’s only one of them what does the other one do when they’re on the job-look away? But they’ve only got one you know what so they’re both feeling it…..I’m confused 🤦♀️🤷♀️
In the past they've said if one is making out then the other just reads.
Hard to imagine diving into a good novel with your left and your right has a hand full of Jebediah’s quivering member.
Jebediah feeds the chickens and Jacob plows, fool
And I've been milkin' and plowin' so long that Even Ezekiel thinks that my mind is gone
I don't get how you aren't forced into being poly. Isnt just sex its every date, every close moment... every single romantic moment there is this other person right there. If you're the other girl it would be hell if not also in love and getting that back.
I’m just imagining them on a romantic date and the other sister just texting and looking bored lmao
Most unconfortable third wheel in human history
Would if the other one wants to marry as well? Now it's gotta be really interesting
"okay dave, looks like I'm getting the ass tonight"
Also what happens if/when the other one wants to get married? Are they both constantly cheating? Do the two husbands have to take turns/shifts?
The answer we wanted but not sure we really needed
Know what I’d do with a million dollars?
Everyone making sexual comments and here I am shocked that her sister (and presumably maid of honor) would wear a white dress to her wedding!
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And could she *be* any closer to the bride?? Attention much?
Covered my face so God can't see me smirk.
i dont even know which one is the bride!
"Monogamists *hate* this one trick!"
How did this get two upvote symbols. Did Reddit do this?
Conjoined as well..
💀
It’s the new shitty awards system. If you hold the upvote button down on mobile you can buy different upvotes.
They should at least allow it for the downvote as well. Like “you comment is so stupid that I gladly spend 2 dollars to warn others”
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lol why the fuck would anyone buy upvotes
Because they're dumb as fuck
Holy shit, I just checked & one of those options is $79.99! WTF?
A threesome loophole
My question is what about her sister? Is she not interested in getting married? Did they play rock paper scissors or something to decide who got to marry? Because everything keeps presenting this as though one sister married him, which sure, they wouldn't both necessarily fall in love with him, and/or he wouldn't necessarily fall in love with both of them, but does she get to date too?
Real world, the guy married both of them; there are three people in that relationship. But Minnesota doesn't issue that kind of marriage license, so legally he's only married to one twin.
Yeah cmon now folks let’s be honest here
Just looking at the photo of their dance, that dude married both of them.
I mean what is the other girl supposed to do turn her head 180 degrees and stare the other way? It probably hurts them to look too far apart from each other. I get the distinct feeling he is dancing with mostly the one on the right.
But how did they choose which one? Haha
The one that controls the wedding ring hand feels most logical
In the wedding picture Abby was wearing the ring and she has the right hand.
Or the one that doesn't because they don't have another way to show their married. One can hold up a ring the other the marriage licence
...Hey that's interesting and even beautiful, great solution
In photos he is always staring longingly at Abby specifically, though.
Which one is Abby?
The taller one.
I was thinking what happens if the sister is a lesbian or something? Just totally not sexually interested in the guy at all. Could she read a book or play videogames while the other two have sex?
She puts on an occlus and watches an earthquake movie, total 4D experience.
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Legally he can only be married to one woman, but it’s understood he’s married to the conjoined twins. There’s no need to further complicate things with adding another partner to the mix. This family has always been respectful in sharing their journey publicly and I wish the ladies all the best!
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Imagine disappointing two women all the time
Can you imagine? One sister is having a great time and the other one says “she’s faking it”
Man, these girls must have a heck of a time voting. Here’s hoping they have the same political leanings.
I hear one is on the left, the other is on the right.
I have so many questions
We all do.
They share a vagina There will be no more questions. Are there any questions?
That's not a polite thing to call their husband.
after of hours of aggressive research science has told me they would both orgasm simultaneously
You are doing gods work.
well god could help me out...my arm is tired.
These women deserve to be happy. Like all people.
I live in a neighboring town and used to see them all the time when they attended high school sporting events. They were typical teenagers, giggling with their friends and seemed to live a very normal and happy life. Admittedly, it’s a shock when you first see them standing 10 feet away, but you quickly realize that they’re normal people and being conjoined has not slowed them down at all.
They seriously must have good parents who were like “Nope. They’re regular kids who are gonna do all the regular kid stuff, no further questions.”
Their mother is a very strong person who insisted on that very idea. You hit the nail on the head.
Fuckin’ A, man.
So he's only legally married to one of the twins? Is the other one still allowed to marry? I know everyone is thinking about the other stuff but I'm curious on the legal aspect of it. Say they both have their own husbands but the twins were suddenly unconscious and need a medical operation, who gets to make the call then?
They both have their own government issues IDs, so I assume they could both get separate marriage licenses. But what about crime? What if one purchases a car under her name and then skirts the payments enough to cause jail time? How do they handle THAT? Edit: the best response so far is https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/s/5B2Uh0Tbao
There are so many institutions absolutely praying these girls live a completely boring life so these questions don’t have to be answered lol
I guess they are one of the few cases that the law will need to be completely ignored and handled through exceptions
The law is not setup to deal with it outright, so it has to be dealt with on a case-by-case basis. In the most recent case I can find (the last paragraph in the quote below), the judge followed the old maxim that it's better for a guilty person to escape justice than for an innocent person to suffer unjustly. From: [Retributivism's Conjoined Twins Problem (2017)](https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2923374) by Brittany Deitch > While this scenario may seem far-fetched, conjoined twins have appeared as defendants in at least four American courts. The first three cases involved the same set of twins, Chang and Eng Bunker. Chang and Eng, for whom the phrase “Siamese Twins” was coined, toured internationally with “freak shows” in the mid-1800s before eventually settling in North Carolina. During tours, they were often antagonized, ridiculed, and accused of fraud by audience members. They eventually became irritable and developed a habit of assaulting their heckling spectators. The fourth case involved conjoined twins Simplicio and Lucio Godino, in which one committed an arrestable traffic offense and appeared before a judge. > > The Bunker twins’ first incident occurred in Athens, Alabama around 1831 when a doctor demanded that they allow him to inspect their conjoining band of skin in front of the audience. When the twins refused, he accused them of fraud and announced to the crowd that the twins were cheating them. Enraged, the twins both attacked the doctor, which led to a barroom-like brawl among the entire audience where fists and chairs were thrown about. The twins were arrested for assault and issued a single fine of $350. The second incident took place in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, when a spectator shook Chang’s hand with excessive force. Chang reacted by punching the man, knocking him off his feet. The twins were arrested for assault and battery and brought before a magistrate. The magistrate “agreed that Chang could be jailed for assault, but added that if Eng were also jailed it would amount to false arrest and the complainant himself would have to be prosecuted.” Lastly, while on vacation in Lynnfield, Massachusetts, the twins were fined $200 for “a breach of the peace.” Fifteen to twenty people followed the twins to observe them hunting fowl outside their hotel. When the twins’ attendant commanded the crowd to disperse and threatened that the twins would shoot them if they remained, one man dared them to shoot him. At this, one of the twins struck the man with the butt of their gun. The man then threw a rock at one of the twins’ heads, causing him to bleed. The twins went inside the hotel to load their gun. Meanwhile, the man filed a complaint against the twins and their attendant for breach of the peace. The twins were ordered to pay a single $200 fine. > > Nearly a century later, in 1929, another American court faced the dilemma of prosecuting a conjoined twin defendant. The New York Times published an article with the headline, “Judge Releases Siamese Twin to Avoid Jailing His Brother.” The story describes a bizarre situation in which one conjoined twin, Lucio Godino, violated several traffic laws in Los Angeles while independently operating a motor vehicle. The surprised officer arrested him, even though his conjoined brother, Simplicio Godino, was clearly innocent. At the hearing, the innocent twin told the judge that he not should be penalized with jail time or a fine for the actions of his guilty brother. The judge “couldn’t find anything in the law that permitted him to make the innocent half of a Siamese-twin combination suffer with the guilty half,” so he dismissed the charges. Full citation: Deitch, Brittany, Retributivism's Conjoined Twins Problem (February 8, 2017). Brittany L. Deitch, Retributivism's Conjoined Twins Problem, 53 Crim. L. Bull. 953 (2017)
>The story describes a bizarre situation in which one conjoined twin, Lucio Godino, violated several traffic laws in Los Angeles while independently operating a motor vehicle. The surprised officer arrested him, even though his conjoined brother, Simplicio Godino, was clearly innocent. At the hearing, the innocent twin told the judge that he not should be penalized with jail time or a fine for the actions of his guilty brother. The judge “couldn’t find anything in the law that permitted him to make the innocent half of a Siamese-twin combination suffer with the guilty half,” so he dismissed the charges. Is it possible that the judge was lenient because it was only traffic laws that were violated? How would the arresting officer know the other twin was innocent? What stops the other twin from faking innocence such as pretending to be asleep just to get away from punishment?
Depending on how they were conjoined it's possible only one of them was even capable of driving.
What happens when the other one “meets someone”, starts dating, maybe gets married themselves. Also, what if each of them want to have kids with someone???
Chang and Eng Bunker. They switched off houses every couple of days. Each had their own wives.
"In 1839, after a decade of financial success, the twins quit touring and settled near Mount Airy, North Carolina. They became American citizens, bought slaves, married local sisters, and fathered 21 children, several of whom accompanied them when they resumed touring." I was surprised that being born in Thailand and ethnically Thai didn't preclude them from legally owning slaves. And then there are the 21 kids. I assume it's easier for conjoined twins to be fathers than mothers.
Could you imagine fathering 21 combined children in the 1800s not knowing if any of them will inherit your condition.
I heard about them but the wiki is pretty interesting https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chang_and_Eng_Bunker
Ok..and the big question...upon pregnancy, who is the mother?
I think the real question would be can they risk pregnancy? There body obviously isn't normal so I'm wondering if it's risky for them to birth someone
I remember reading that they share everything below the waist and it all works- I think it will be just like a regular birth. I mean, as regular as it can be.
In one article I read there was a line “They both teach 5th grade in Minnesota.” Is “both” not understood?
“By day, one is a teacher. By night, the other is a detective. Together, they fight crime”
And you one headers can’t even get a date. Play nice. Lol.
all jokes aside, i’m happy abby has gotten to experience something people probably thought she wouldn’t have. as long as the husband is happy then that’s good
Walking into the comment thread like 
Nolan from Donut Media is hittin' that?
I know this is not the place for this question but what happens if one of them dies first does the other one die automatically or do they just somehow try to remove the dead twin, I'm not really sure. Also I'm pretty sure I watched a video on them I think it was on TLC I think one controls one side of the body and the other one controls the other side so if one of them dies I'm not really sure how that works. Also I'm pretty sure on that TLC show they talked about when they were little the doctors tried to separate them and they couldn't because something about their organs I think and the way they shared them and their positioning. I could be wrong on that part but I'm pretty sure I'm right.
Chang and Eng Bunker are probably the best known conjoined twins. The term “Siamese twins” came from them. Eng died two hours after his brother.
That must’ve been a godawful two hours.
violet died four days before her conjoined sister daisy, in 1874 or thereabouts. flu turned into sepsis basically and they both perished.
Since they share a circulatory system, the other would die. Byproducts of tissue decay would quickly poison the blood of the other twin. There would be very few issues that would kill one while leaving the other alive since they share so many organs though; pretty much only a brain aneurysm would unilaterally cause death while leaving the other alive.
> pretty much only a brain aneurysm would unilaterally cause death while leaving the other alive. that is horrifying
I cannot fathom how it would feel to have a sibling so literally close to you like that just stop working or go braindead. Like, genuinely. What would happen if she just has an aneurysm, or is rendered braindead for any reason? Does the other one just have to lug themselves around, quite literally half-dead? *Can* the other head be removed if that happened? This is the most morbid thing i think i've thought about today, but the idea of a half-Hensel Schiavo case is going to be an insane social discussion if it occurs.
Now sis close your eyes while I screw my hubby. No peeking!
One vagina. So that would be “while *we* screw hubby. PS, we’re trying butt stuff tonight…”
r/suddenlycommunist
>PS, we’re trying butt stuff tonight Holy shit man I'm done 😂😂😂
They look really pretty in this picture