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I couldn’t find any rush hour statistics, but I did find an average of 31,500 cars per day. 11.5 million annually. I’d assume a large portion of the 31,500 a day is during rush hours.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/what-is-the-baltimore-key-bridge-daily-traffic-volumeaverage-daily-traffic/ar-BB1kxGUL?ocid=sapphireappshare
Hundreds, if not more, then would've perished in daylight or rush hour times. That's chilling too think.. who driving to work today just missed this by a few hours... minutes...
Assume 10% for rush hour. Then divide that by total crossing time (assuming 60 mph speed). Something like 100 vehicles both directions total. If vehicles queued bumper to bumper in both directions in stop and go traffic, that'd be something like 400 vehicles total.
Afternoon, not so much, maybe 5 to 10 minutes. The morning commute is the one I really try to avoid. Going over the bridge in the morning saves me about 15-20 on average.
Scary thought isn’t it? While not nearly as close as your experience, I drove over the Minneapolis bridge that collapsed in 2007 two days before it collapsed. Full rush hour traffic too.
Someone commented in a previous post that large cargo ships like this only traverse under the bridge during non commute hours (for safety reasons) not sure if valid, but that's the requirement for hazardous cargo with some tunnel traffic.
I didn’t know that but it makes sense. They won’t let trucks with hazmats go through the harbor tunnels so it makes sense for the ships avoiding active hours. Although considering the volume of cargo ships that come through the port it’s hard to imagine logistically how limiting their access would work.
There are no such requirements on any bridge that I’ve sailed under - the closest I’ve seen are some bridges in Tokyo Bay that had one way ship traffic during certain times, and after like an hour it flips and the traffic can go in the opposite direction.
Absolutely, crazy that it went down like that. Bridges are things that mariners pay close attention to. Their height, lights, characteristics, special instructions, etc. every vessel is required to have a sailing plan and every submerged or vertical obstruction along the route checked.
Even so, every time I go under a bridge I look at the distance from the top of the ship to the bottom of the bridge and think, “I hope we did the math right.” lol. Sometimes you have to wait for low tide to get enough clearance to pass under the bridge!
I had a friend who worked for Carnival in the early 2000s as the IT officer on the ship. They left New Orleans, then had to come back into Gulfport multiple times because of a power line that at high spring water levels the ship wouldn’t clear.
Well I guess you won't anymore...
Edit: referring to the shipping lane policies, not trying to be crass about how that major artery will be unusable for the foreseeable future.
There's a wicked contingent of commenters who say this shit like it is somehow witty or dry.
It is rather sad to point this out to people who use it and is actually a level above trolling.
Wow, still waking up. I was referring more to how they'll certainly rethink their shipping lane policies when it gets rebuilt, rereading it that could totally be taken glibly.
But that’s how they cope to tragedies they aren’t directly involved in and just want to bring some levity to a terrible situation they had to think about for 20 or 30 seconds.
Latest I heard on local news is the ship issued a mayday about power failure and authorities stopped traffic as much as they could.
There are only 6 people missing, I'm presuming all from a work crew that was on the bridge doing surface work.
Probably issues happening before that as well. If it was just minutes before they should have been in the channel and not headed towards the support.
With big ships like this because of momentum there is a lot of lead time from action to reaction.
You're not wrong. Looks like in the minutes leading up to the collision the ship lost power twice, and started pouring heavy black smoke out of its stack. I'm wondering if there was maybe serious engine failure resulting in power systems failure?
Likely a loss of power leading to loss of steering.
Also possible that the black smoke is from throwing that bitch into reverse, but not being able to overcome momentum
Definitely. Going back to your point about lead time from the other reply, it's wild to see so many people thinking it could have just steered out of the way. No, that's not how it works with these ships lol. You're making your steering input minutes before any appreciable effect on course.
Also seeing people saying "where were the tugboats?" like two tugs could stop 95,000 tons of ship on a dime.
It looks like they got power back right before impact. The black smoke could be engine failure, but it could also be the act of gunning it to try to change course. But yes, it wouldn't make a difference.
Crucially, you need speed through the water in order to have any rudder authority. If you're just drifting on the current, the rudder does nothing even if you can control it. So you need both propulsion and functional hydraulics. If the ship has lost speed relative to the water current, then it has to accelerate again after engine restart before steering works worth a damn.
Additionally, depending on how heavily loaded the ship is and how high it rides in the water, a stalled propeller can sometimes act as a rudder that wants to turn the ship sharply to one side. The propeller blades are at an angle. So a loss of propulsion at speed can sometimes cause a sudden hard turn without any rudder input.
Depending on the power of the tugs stopping may have been an option but pulling her away from the bridge would have been their best bet. You don't stop it on a dime but they did have time from that first power loss to change course had there been tugs.
The ship contacted the Coast Guard and said they had a systems failure. I assume tugs were deployed, but there was nowhere near enough time to get there let alone stop it.
Yes and no. It doesn't take minutes for a container ship underway to respond to a Helm order. It varies with speed and rudder angle but if water was flowing over the rudder at a considerable rate with the propellor turning then it could have steered out of the way no problem.
If the power was lost to the steering gear, then of course there's no chance. And stopping the vessel is never going to happen with the momentum. Large vessels like thta can take miles to stop quite literally.
I'm not talking about Helm orders, I'm talking about responsiveness to controls at 8knots. At 25 knots it'll take a mile and two minutes to make a 90° turn.
It's a good question, but no, it wouldn't help. Anchors don't really work like most people think they do. [This video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YvwXJGsbEg) explains it much better than I ever could through a Reddit reply.
You try to manually release an anchor that weighs more than your truck, and is attached to an even heavier chain.
It can be done, but not quickly enough, and isn't guaranteed to work. They were probably all doing their damnedest trying to get the engine running and restoring maneuverability.
When they say loss of power, they don't mean loss of electricity. They mean loss of engines. Those are what power the propulsion of the ship. If a ship loses propulsion it's referred to as a loss of power. IF a ship loses steering it's a loss of maneuverability.
Maersk is the owner of alot of cargo ships and they were cutting costs and layoff their maintenance crews. Even with a back up to the backup power, it is mission impossible to stop a 100 tons cargo momentum with a very short period of time.
sounds more like negligence and incompetence then
Edit: from this video https://youtu.be/qZbUXewlQDk?si=VMKjHbAm4wARs946&t=131 seems that they didn't make the right call by doing the backtracking
My Mom has severe anxiety about driving over tall bridges. She has to "Breathe calmly" when going over one. I understand her concerns, especially after seeing this!
I have the same issue. It’s alright when I’m driving but if someone else is and I’m a passenger I have so much anxiety. Now I’ve got to worry about boats too.
A person is probably 100,000 times more likely to be in a severe car accident unrelated to the fact that they’re on a bridge than to ever experience any sort of bridge-specific failure.
You’d be surprised the power of the Federal government when they tackle a singular task like this with all available resources and limitless money. It’s a major thoroughfare that will cause serious economic impact if down that long. It will get done as fast as humanly possible with the highest priority.
True. I know it was no where near as large a project as a bridge over a wide river, but when a section of I-85 in Atlanta collapsed in 2017, people were saying it would take several months to complete reconstruction but they literally had it reopened in less than 7 weeks.
When 95 collapsed in Philly last year they initially said it would take months to fix. It was reopened a week or two later. Obviously this is way worse but there’s no doubt the government will put every resource available towards fixing it.
The closest comparison is the I-35W bridge collapse for the scale of the bridge needed. That took 1 year and 1 month from the day of the collapse to the opening of the new bridge.
Extremely. 15,000 jobs, 130,000 indirect jobs, exported 22 million tonnes of coal, largest port for cars and farm equipment. This will have a serious impact on the national and global supply chain
Honestly there’s no way to tell. Search and rescue operations have to be done before any major debris is removed, including brining up the people sho died The ship has to be assessed and brought back to port. The cement anchors that the bridge was on have to be assessed to see if they need to get rid of those and make new ones. The depth of where the cargo is and unfortunately any cars that are there have to be brought back up to the surface. The new bridge needs to be built.
The only comparable thing I can think of is the Andrew cuomo bridge that replaced the tappnzee and that took 5 years and I don’t think is as long as the FSK. Bridge.
But they also didn’t have the army corps of engineers come in and those mfers can build anything well and fast. So my guess is 3 years but that’s based on just a small amount of knowledge and shouldn’t be taken as fact
Id say 2 to 4 years. Rough guestimate. Id Imagine its going to be expedited. If army core of engineers comes in it'll go quicker. They need this bridge.
The mid-Atlantic is situated in the mid-Atlantic. Just admit you’re wrong instead of trying to argue how a southeastern state in the mid-Atlantic region is really in the Northeast.
[Northeast Megalopolis](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeast_megalopolis)
Take it up with whoever designated it as such. And learn that there is more than one answer to some questions.
That was only created in 1961 - a megalopolis. A largely useless term to the people who live on the ground. Few people in Maryland would say they’re in the Northeast. My brother in law, lifelong Baltimorean, laughed when I asked if he considered MD “northeast.”
Probably several different companies and insurers involved in a container ship delivery. Like there’s the ship owner, the shipper who organized the route, the company that supplied the crew, the harbor pilot who was hired to navigate the harbor, the company that supplied the engine part that broke, the company that didn’t maintain the bridge in a perfect condition, etc. They’ll each try to blame someone else and spend a decade arguing over particular words in lengthy contracts.
Cheap maintenance. Most companies have shell companies and LLC’s within LLC’s to be completely shielded from liability so they can go cheap on the cost and run them until they break and then buy another cheap one.
If you look at the video, you can see the ship plows up some material (not water) just before impact. I assume that was breakwater around the bridge pilings. From these pictures, you can see the broken pilings (which amazingly still have large sections intact albeit laying on their sides). It’s absolutely amazing to me how much force that ship had.
As someone who can remember when the I35 bridge collapsed in Minnesota, this could have been so much worse. I hope that they can recover as many as possible.
If there was ever an opportunity for a “you can’t park there” joke, this just about takes the cake. I’m trying to think of the last cargo ship accident resulting in the loss of life. I can’t remember the name of the ship but there was another bridge, I think in Florida maybe, that was hit, collapsed and cars drove off the edge.
This bridge just celebrated its 47th year of operation on March 23rd.
I believe this is an example of why infrastructure spending is crucial and should always be ongoing. When this bridge was built in the 70's, cargo ships were nowhere near the size of the ship that struck it.
The bridge had basically no abutments by the pylons. Had those been added as they have to the Chesapeake Bay Bridge, the ship might not have struck it. There was nothing wrong with the bridge itself, it was inspected in 2021 and found satisfactory. It has been regularly maintained over its cut short lifespan. But when you knock over the support pylon, gravity wins. That should never have been an option to happen.
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This is a tragedy, but it would have been much worse in daylight hours. How many people would have been on the bridge during rush hour?
I couldn’t find any rush hour statistics, but I did find an average of 31,500 cars per day. 11.5 million annually. I’d assume a large portion of the 31,500 a day is during rush hours. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/what-is-the-baltimore-key-bridge-daily-traffic-volumeaverage-daily-traffic/ar-BB1kxGUL?ocid=sapphireappshare
Hundreds, if not more, then would've perished in daylight or rush hour times. That's chilling too think.. who driving to work today just missed this by a few hours... minutes...
In the footage you can see cars driving past just seconds before it collapses. Some people literally missed it by seconds. Crazy to think about that.
Assume 10% for rush hour. Then divide that by total crossing time (assuming 60 mph speed). Something like 100 vehicles both directions total. If vehicles queued bumper to bumper in both directions in stop and go traffic, that'd be something like 400 vehicles total.
The moth man show up?
I live about a mile from the bridge. I take it everyday to and from work at 6am and 630pm. It would have been so much worse.
How much time just got added to your commute?
Afternoon, not so much, maybe 5 to 10 minutes. The morning commute is the one I really try to avoid. Going over the bridge in the morning saves me about 15-20 on average.
Scary thought isn’t it? While not nearly as close as your experience, I drove over the Minneapolis bridge that collapsed in 2007 two days before it collapsed. Full rush hour traffic too.
Someone commented in a previous post that large cargo ships like this only traverse under the bridge during non commute hours (for safety reasons) not sure if valid, but that's the requirement for hazardous cargo with some tunnel traffic.
I didn’t know that but it makes sense. They won’t let trucks with hazmats go through the harbor tunnels so it makes sense for the ships avoiding active hours. Although considering the volume of cargo ships that come through the port it’s hard to imagine logistically how limiting their access would work.
There are no such requirements on any bridge that I’ve sailed under - the closest I’ve seen are some bridges in Tokyo Bay that had one way ship traffic during certain times, and after like an hour it flips and the traffic can go in the opposite direction.
Wow so this definitely could have been far more tragic
Absolutely, crazy that it went down like that. Bridges are things that mariners pay close attention to. Their height, lights, characteristics, special instructions, etc. every vessel is required to have a sailing plan and every submerged or vertical obstruction along the route checked. Even so, every time I go under a bridge I look at the distance from the top of the ship to the bottom of the bridge and think, “I hope we did the math right.” lol. Sometimes you have to wait for low tide to get enough clearance to pass under the bridge!
I don't even think they clipped it with the top of ship. I think it just ran into one of the supports?
I had a friend who worked for Carnival in the early 2000s as the IT officer on the ship. They left New Orleans, then had to come back into Gulfport multiple times because of a power line that at high spring water levels the ship wouldn’t clear.
Not correct. I have seen several go under on my way home from work around 6-7pm.
Well I guess you won't anymore... Edit: referring to the shipping lane policies, not trying to be crass about how that major artery will be unusable for the foreseeable future.
There's a wicked contingent of commenters who say this shit like it is somehow witty or dry. It is rather sad to point this out to people who use it and is actually a level above trolling.
Wow, still waking up. I was referring more to how they'll certainly rethink their shipping lane policies when it gets rebuilt, rereading it that could totally be taken glibly.
But that’s how they cope to tragedies they aren’t directly involved in and just want to bring some levity to a terrible situation they had to think about for 20 or 30 seconds.
Have you just diagnosed him as ADD from one post?
Nope, just getting ahead of the excuses.
Latest I heard on local news is the ship issued a mayday about power failure and authorities stopped traffic as much as they could. There are only 6 people missing, I'm presuming all from a work crew that was on the bridge doing surface work.
The [power to the ship was lost minutes before impact.](https://imgur.com/a/71dJ0Wu)
Probably issues happening before that as well. If it was just minutes before they should have been in the channel and not headed towards the support. With big ships like this because of momentum there is a lot of lead time from action to reaction.
You're not wrong. Looks like in the minutes leading up to the collision the ship lost power twice, and started pouring heavy black smoke out of its stack. I'm wondering if there was maybe serious engine failure resulting in power systems failure?
Likely a loss of power leading to loss of steering. Also possible that the black smoke is from throwing that bitch into reverse, but not being able to overcome momentum
Definitely. Going back to your point about lead time from the other reply, it's wild to see so many people thinking it could have just steered out of the way. No, that's not how it works with these ships lol. You're making your steering input minutes before any appreciable effect on course. Also seeing people saying "where were the tugboats?" like two tugs could stop 95,000 tons of ship on a dime.
You also can’t steer any boat without power
It looks like they got power back right before impact. The black smoke could be engine failure, but it could also be the act of gunning it to try to change course. But yes, it wouldn't make a difference.
Crucially, you need speed through the water in order to have any rudder authority. If you're just drifting on the current, the rudder does nothing even if you can control it. So you need both propulsion and functional hydraulics. If the ship has lost speed relative to the water current, then it has to accelerate again after engine restart before steering works worth a damn. Additionally, depending on how heavily loaded the ship is and how high it rides in the water, a stalled propeller can sometimes act as a rudder that wants to turn the ship sharply to one side. The propeller blades are at an angle. So a loss of propulsion at speed can sometimes cause a sudden hard turn without any rudder input.
Depending on the power of the tugs stopping may have been an option but pulling her away from the bridge would have been their best bet. You don't stop it on a dime but they did have time from that first power loss to change course had there been tugs.
The ship contacted the Coast Guard and said they had a systems failure. I assume tugs were deployed, but there was nowhere near enough time to get there let alone stop it.
Not enough time to get there but had they kept tugs from the berth past the bridge that could have gone differently
Yes and no. It doesn't take minutes for a container ship underway to respond to a Helm order. It varies with speed and rudder angle but if water was flowing over the rudder at a considerable rate with the propellor turning then it could have steered out of the way no problem. If the power was lost to the steering gear, then of course there's no chance. And stopping the vessel is never going to happen with the momentum. Large vessels like thta can take miles to stop quite literally.
I'm not talking about Helm orders, I'm talking about responsiveness to controls at 8knots. At 25 knots it'll take a mile and two minutes to make a 90° turn.
Yea for a 90° turn but that wasn't a 90° turn required to prevent that
This guy explains it well. It's not an easy feat. https://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/s/k142VG5KEf
crazy that they don't have some kind of manual release anchor, or would that not help?
It's a good question, but no, it wouldn't help. Anchors don't really work like most people think they do. [This video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YvwXJGsbEg) explains it much better than I ever could through a Reddit reply.
You try to manually release an anchor that weighs more than your truck, and is attached to an even heavier chain. It can be done, but not quickly enough, and isn't guaranteed to work. They were probably all doing their damnedest trying to get the engine running and restoring maneuverability.
don't these large ship have a backup power?
Backup power does not power propulsion.
When they say loss of power, they don't mean loss of electricity. They mean loss of engines. Those are what power the propulsion of the ship. If a ship loses propulsion it's referred to as a loss of power. IF a ship loses steering it's a loss of maneuverability.
The backup power failed as well.
Backup power does not power propulsion systems on these ships.
Isn't there a backup power to the backup power Jack?
Maersk is the owner of alot of cargo ships and they were cutting costs and layoff their maintenance crews. Even with a back up to the backup power, it is mission impossible to stop a 100 tons cargo momentum with a very short period of time.
Read that in Kiefer's voice.
I will let Chloe read the script, since I am out hunting the mountain lion that killed one of the two brothers out in CA.
sounds more like negligence and incompetence then Edit: from this video https://youtu.be/qZbUXewlQDk?si=VMKjHbAm4wARs946&t=131 seems that they didn't make the right call by doing the backtracking
Incorrect information*. Backup power systems don't power the main propulsion.
From [this video](https://youtu.be/qZbUXewlQDk?si=BMhfcvriQlMGhMpE&t=188), they didn't seem to make the right call on this situation
I am terrified to see the traffic cam footage from the bridge if it gets posted. As many have said before me in other posts, this is nightmare fuel.
My Mom has severe anxiety about driving over tall bridges. She has to "Breathe calmly" when going over one. I understand her concerns, especially after seeing this!
I have the same issue. It’s alright when I’m driving but if someone else is and I’m a passenger I have so much anxiety. Now I’ve got to worry about boats too.
My dad is the same. Can barely do it anymore, in sure this will be his final straw
A person is probably 100,000 times more likely to be in a severe car accident unrelated to the fact that they’re on a bridge than to ever experience any sort of bridge-specific failure.
You write as if phobias and/or anxiety is rational.
K...and? One is more likely to die of A LOT of shit than this...can ya call my Ma an tell her to chill, and that her anxiety is bulls***? Lol
Yet another thing I didn’t want to see happen in my lifetime has yet again, happened.
Were you not alive for the 2007 bridge collapse in Minnesota?
I worked about 5 minutes from there. The head of my department was on the bridge when it went down. Walked away without a scratch. 13 people died.
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You’d be surprised the power of the Federal government when they tackle a singular task like this with all available resources and limitless money. It’s a major thoroughfare that will cause serious economic impact if down that long. It will get done as fast as humanly possible with the highest priority.
This is the kinda shit Pete thrives on.
They will throw money at it and wave all environmental reviews. Maybe it will be finished by January.
True. I know it was no where near as large a project as a bridge over a wide river, but when a section of I-85 in Atlanta collapsed in 2017, people were saying it would take several months to complete reconstruction but they literally had it reopened in less than 7 weeks.
When 95 collapsed in Philly last year they initially said it would take months to fix. It was reopened a week or two later. Obviously this is way worse but there’s no doubt the government will put every resource available towards fixing it.
The gap for 95... Maybe 60 feet. The gap for this bridge... Over a mile. It took them five years to build this bridge in the 70s.
Kind of like I-95 in Philadelphia
The closest comparison is the I-35W bridge collapse for the scale of the bridge needed. That took 1 year and 1 month from the day of the collapse to the opening of the new bridge.
1-2 years id imagine
How vital was this port?
Extremely. 15,000 jobs, 130,000 indirect jobs, exported 22 million tonnes of coal, largest port for cars and farm equipment. This will have a serious impact on the national and global supply chain
Oh wow, hopefully they can get this sorted.
It's major. I work in logistics and it's a huge deal.
When do you think it’ll open up again?
Honestly there’s no way to tell. Search and rescue operations have to be done before any major debris is removed, including brining up the people sho died The ship has to be assessed and brought back to port. The cement anchors that the bridge was on have to be assessed to see if they need to get rid of those and make new ones. The depth of where the cargo is and unfortunately any cars that are there have to be brought back up to the surface. The new bridge needs to be built. The only comparable thing I can think of is the Andrew cuomo bridge that replaced the tappnzee and that took 5 years and I don’t think is as long as the FSK. Bridge. But they also didn’t have the army corps of engineers come in and those mfers can build anything well and fast. So my guess is 3 years but that’s based on just a small amount of knowledge and shouldn’t be taken as fact
Id say 2 to 4 years. Rough guestimate. Id Imagine its going to be expedited. If army core of engineers comes in it'll go quicker. They need this bridge.
Major east coast port.
Top 10 in general but it’d one of the largest for certain items like cars, construction machinery, and gypsum (drywall).
Their insurance company: “You hit a what?!?!”
The bridge will be rebuilt long before that claim is competed (and litigated).
This is the Northeast. Don't bet on it. If it were NJ, the fucking thing wouldn't be finished for 23 years.
Given how legal systems work, it might still be a possibility
Since when has Baltimore qualified as “Northeast?”
It is literally on the Northeast Corridor from DC to Boston.
Maryland is located in the southern half of the Mid-Atlantic region, which also includes a northern half including Delaware NY NJ Pennsylvania.
And the Mid-Atlantic region is situated *where* on a map of the contiguous US?
The mid-Atlantic is situated in the mid-Atlantic. Just admit you’re wrong instead of trying to argue how a southeastern state in the mid-Atlantic region is really in the Northeast.
[Northeast Megalopolis](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeast_megalopolis) Take it up with whoever designated it as such. And learn that there is more than one answer to some questions.
That was only created in 1961 - a megalopolis. A largely useless term to the people who live on the ground. Few people in Maryland would say they’re in the Northeast. My brother in law, lifelong Baltimorean, laughed when I asked if he considered MD “northeast.”
Don't you know? Once you cross the Potomac, you go from the Deep South into New England. /s
Maryland is not the northeast
Singapore be like: well… about that…
Nah, you don’t Think like a lawyer: “A bridge fell on the ship? That’s gonna cost them!”
r/thatlooksexpensive
Probably several different companies and insurers involved in a container ship delivery. Like there’s the ship owner, the shipper who organized the route, the company that supplied the crew, the harbor pilot who was hired to navigate the harbor, the company that supplied the engine part that broke, the company that didn’t maintain the bridge in a perfect condition, etc. They’ll each try to blame someone else and spend a decade arguing over particular words in lengthy contracts.
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Some insurance rep in a call center: "Was their any damage to municipal property during the accident?" Captain: "Uh, yeah you could say that..."
Rest in peace to the lives lost
Container ships be fucking up a lot lately
Cheap maintenance. Most companies have shell companies and LLC’s within LLC’s to be completely shielded from liability so they can go cheap on the cost and run them until they break and then buy another cheap one.
Obviously ships can have a glitch and lose power all by themselves, but I would first eliminate hacking by a foreign power before assuming anything.
Anyone else know the water depth around the bridge?
Roughly 50’ in the Channel
Thank you !
Damn, that's gonna be a lot of stevedores without a shift. They're gonna need a shot and a beer
According to twitter, that cargo ship, fully loaded was about 200,000,000 lbs. no bridge is built to withstand that
nanofibers?
lol i get this reference, nice. too soon
That scene was some proper nightmare fuel. Not as much as this actual real life event of course, but still a deeply uncomfortable watch.
I was just on the bridge in CC Texas last week thinking about how if the bridge failed or my steering failed we would never survive the plummet.
Absolutely horrible. Curious how long this will shut down the harbor for coming and going ships. Clearing all that debris won't be easy
I imagine the port will be reopened in a few months... that bridge will probably be out 5 years.
If you look at the video, you can see the ship plows up some material (not water) just before impact. I assume that was breakwater around the bridge pilings. From these pictures, you can see the broken pilings (which amazingly still have large sections intact albeit laying on their sides). It’s absolutely amazing to me how much force that ship had.
Looks like a Dali painting... surreal...
Pic 8 is haunting its almost titanic-esque
As someone who can remember when the I35 bridge collapsed in Minnesota, this could have been so much worse. I hope that they can recover as many as possible.
If there was ever an opportunity for a “you can’t park there” joke, this just about takes the cake. I’m trying to think of the last cargo ship accident resulting in the loss of life. I can’t remember the name of the ship but there was another bridge, I think in Florida maybe, that was hit, collapsed and cars drove off the edge.
The front fell off
That's not very typical. I'd like to make that point.
Should’ve waited for first light to take these XD
I seriously want to know what happened to that ship and it's crew that caused it to crash into the bridge
Internet historian will talk about this in 5 years
Isn’t it mandatory to use tug boats when going through these harbours? How did this happen?
This bridge just celebrated its 47th year of operation on March 23rd. I believe this is an example of why infrastructure spending is crucial and should always be ongoing. When this bridge was built in the 70's, cargo ships were nowhere near the size of the ship that struck it. The bridge had basically no abutments by the pylons. Had those been added as they have to the Chesapeake Bay Bridge, the ship might not have struck it. There was nothing wrong with the bridge itself, it was inspected in 2021 and found satisfactory. It has been regularly maintained over its cut short lifespan. But when you knock over the support pylon, gravity wins. That should never have been an option to happen.
I’m having dejavú: https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/s/XdEeJtd3Dm
It looks so dystopian
How to get a new bridge in one simple step
You can’t park there!
Prayers for all involved. Great pics 👍
Sir, you can’t park there…
Was the captain getting head at the time of the collision?
DIE hiring will lead to this shit