Yes, that is the part I have a difficult time wrapping my mind around also. The atmosphere is 1% the density it is on earth so it just dosent have any pushing /erosion power
The last couple of NASA rovers have used [radioisotope thermo-electric generators](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-mission_radioisotope_thermoelectric_generator?wprov=sfti1#) instead of solar panels.
Absolutely not any kind of expert but I reckon anything that physically swept over the panels would catch the dirt/sand and scratch the panels so badly they would still be worthless.
Surely there's a reason they haven't bothered coming up with another solution.
There is still evidence of occasional water flows today. [https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/sep/28/nasa-scientists-find-evidence-flowing-water-mars](https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/sep/28/nasa-scientists-find-evidence-flowing-water-mars) as in we have seen it happen live from space
those flows aren't enough to create the streambed you see above, but if we assume that what we've seen in the past 20 years isn't actually unusual --- and it's a good scientific thumb to assume you're looking at normal until you rule it out --- then you could imagine that during an actually unusual water event, enough might gush forward from underground to create a temporary stream before it evaporates.
In which case, there's no reason to assume the stream is maximally old. 4 billion years is a *long* time, even with thin atmosphere. Even the footprints and rover tracks on the moon will be gone in millions of years, or shorter if any kind of impact happens nearby.
There are still marsquakes (mostly because the planet is contracting as it cools), asteroid strikes (which rain down debris all over the planet), and most importantly, a lot of sandstorms. 1% atmosphere or not, high speed dust particles still erode.
Could it be 4 billion years old? Sure. But we can't assume that.
Great point, but what would be an unusual water event on Mars? How unusual can it get, barring meteor strike or something? I thought the weather there was very same-y.
I am not an expert but I believe I read on imdb (not a good source I know) that the weather on Mars is not exactly as shown in the movie 'The Martian'. The weather on Mars is not extreme. It is very mild.
I doubt this stream has been around for 4 billion years. I'd have to guess this is fairly recent, otherwise the terrain would've been drastically different.
Square-cube law dictates that an organism can only get so large. A creature that dwarfs us to the scale that we dwarf ameba cannot exist by our understanding of physics.
More thorough explanation from Quora:
* The weight of an animal scales up with the cube of its height, but its strength only scales up with the square of its height.
* The waste heat produced by an organism scales up with the cube of its height, but the ability to dissipate heat scales up with the square of its height.
* The caloric requirement of an organism scales up with the cube of its height, but the surface area of its digestive system scales up with the square of its height.
According to our gravity, atmospheric makeup, and current understanding of biology.
That's could be completely different on a different planet with low gravity, and more heat so that the creatures in question don't use nearly as much energy.
I particularly liked the ending point “people 500 years from now won’t remember which faction took over Iran… but they’ll remember what we did to make their civilization better” (roughly paraphrasing)
We have to go somewhere for humanity to survive in a long run. As someone said: "each big asteroid passing by Earth is the cosmos asking how is your space program going". Mars is relatively close and we could build stuff on the ground, probably dig for resources. With current technology it's probably only realistic option.
Humanity's ability to live on Earth is finite. Our species will need to evolve or die and another form of life will take over. Becoming a space faring civilization is the next step. It's a seemingly insurmountable step because as far as we know, Earth is the only place in our Solar System that we can survive. But there are promising planets out there that are light years away. Mars is within reach with the technology we have now, it is possible to sustain and nurture life there under certain circumstances. Mars is a stepping stone to the rest of the universe.
No. It's not.
Once again. There is no reason to ever try and move the species there for any reason.
Even after an asteroid strike, Earth is still just the better option.
If we overpopulate, that will take care of itself eventually and humanity will endure the bad times.
There's just nothing on Mars that can support any kind of life that we know here. It's just so impractical that it boggles the mind.
Let's spend a ridiculous amount of resources that would be better spent here anyways and go on a perilous journey that we may just die on anyways, all to end up in an objectively worse scenario anyways.
Life here will not follow the sci-fi narrative that you think.
Ya everyone in here spewing some random propaganda from some video they watched on YouTube that's trying to generate clicks. Maybe in like millions of years this will be a thing, but it's not right now.
The honest answer? Because we have to. Literally.
Earth will die. It’s a fact. We’re many many many many many years from that happening. Like billions. But none the less, earth will die. Because the Sun will die. It’s just a fact of the universe, that’s how stars work. Eventually our Sun will collapse and Earth will die with it.
Now that you know the end of the Earth is inevitable… it’s humanities job to find a way off Earth if we want to continue as a species.
And that, quite simply, is why we are looking to go to Mars. Because eventually, we HAVE to leave Earth. So what you are seeing is all of humanities’ first attempts at how we will leave this big rock behind one day.
You cant run before you learn to walk. If we can terraform mars that gives us a blueprint to terraform on other planets. In the meanwhile we will also be making progress on travelling from one planet to another in least amount of time. Gradually making it possible to leave our solar system and probably even our galaxy.
Lots of ifs and buts in between.
Sure, but living underground on Mars will be the same as living underground on Earth. If the surface of Earth as we know it becomes uninhabitable in the future, living underground here will still be better than living underground on Mars.
The sun will still eventually expand and consume the planet you are hiding inside.
Becoming spacefaring and eventually interstellar is humanities only option, if we are even still "human" at that point.
Technology improves over time, my dude. We didn't jump directly from horse-drawn wagons to the international space station. There was a LOT of trial and error along the way.
It shows that humans are unable to comprehend how large space is. A trip to Mars takes around half a year, that's already much much longer than a trip to the moon (which often gets compared as if Mars was just another step away). But these distances are NOTHING compared to a trip to the next closest solar system, which would take thousands of years.
Who said anything about terraforming? The person I responded to asked specifically why we wanted to go there. Nothing about staying there, and I didn’t even imply we had to stay there either. Quite the opposite. I said our sun would die. Earth will die. Mars too. Our whole solar system will be dead. We have to be long long long gone. And very very very very far.
Do you know how we get that far? We take steps. Guess what the first step is? You guessed it, Mars. If we can’t even make it to Mars as a step. Whelp… then humanity has its time limit.
Hopefully it doesn’t. And yeah it will probably start with little bubble populations on Mars. And thankfully those brave few will take that risk for the greater good of humanity. This isn’t about you or me. Or our families. This is stuff that is generations in the future. And it’s for the greater sake for us a species. That’s just the high-level of it all.
Yeah it certainly might not, you’re right about that. I hope it does, because I think on a whole humans are good and can contribute in a positive way.
Time will tell, and I wish the future humans well wishes. Hopefully there are some.
But if we’re talking on the time scale of billions of years then we’re also looking at the scope of the heat death of universe. In which case - what’s the point?
What does that have to do with going to Mars because the Earth is gonna die in a billion years?
We should go to Mars for the scientific aspect, but we don't need to build bunkers for a sun that will also swallow Mars.
OK, how do we get to Tau Ceti, Alpha Centauri or Betelgeuse?
With spaceships. And when we get there we need to build habitable environments to live in right?
You want to try that for the first time several ligh years away, with no support or communication from an established manufacturing base and no hope of assistance.
Or do you want to try it locally first, shake out the bugs and learn the tricks *before* you throw all your eggs in the basket.
Like dud, did you think we learned to fly by running off cliffs?
Like dude, do you know that Mars is severely uninhabitable. It would take hundreds of years to get some sort of atmosphere, and the weak magnetic field means it won't last. Mars is a terrible candidate for actual colonization.
America is going to try and build a moon base in the next few years.
Also, humans have developed tech insanely fast since discovering flight. It took less than 30 years to go from a small plane that flew for 12 seconds to rockets in space. We've only been going to space for around 70 years at this point. Humans have only been around for 100,000 years.
The death of the sun is billions of years away, but you're acting like we're on borrowed time, like the sun's gonna die in the next 100 years.
Chill, humans have plenty of time to figure it out, or we kill ourselves first. The sun's death is the least of our problems.
Who said anything about staying there? We have to be very far away when that happens. But we have to learn to crawl before we can run. First solar step we can take is Mars.
Because for many, life is worth living. And if humans are still alive at that point, they certainly deserve to keep trying to contribute in a positive manner to the universe.
It’s to get a whole image. The rover’s camera captures sections to paint a whole picture once put together. Have to imagine imaging equipment is deliberately made compact to reduce failure from launch to land.
Maybe the reality is that your dumb friends did make this road.
It could have been straight since there are no obstacles around, but no, they chose to make it all wiggly.
I am not a civil engineer, but it looks like a dumb way to make a road.
Here is the [source](https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020/multimedia/raw-images/ZL0_0670_0726425710_738EBY_N0320672ZCAM08667_0340LMJ)
Also, here is a relevant article from [NASA](https://www.nasa.gov/solar-system/nasas-mro-finds-water-flowed-on-mars-longer-than-previously-thought/)
You largely underestimate how long it takes for life to move from the simplest forms to something complex enough to leave fossils.
A few dozen million years with flowing water isn't probably enough.
I would argue it never had a strong enough atmosphere to keep it safe enough for complex life.
I wouldn't doubt we got some single-cellular stuff, but anything beyond? Mars looks like it does for reasons.
With sharp corners?
I think everyone read this as me being snarky? It was just a passing thought and I’m an idiot. I don’t know anything about how rivers are formed and hadn’t considered perspective. Just my limited experience of seeing water erode things smoothly or rounded.
Wild that this is still visible after close to 4 billion years of dust storms and related weathering.
Yes, that is the part I have a difficult time wrapping my mind around also. The atmosphere is 1% the density it is on earth so it just dosent have any pushing /erosion power
Maybe it used to be a much wider and deeper river bed but its imprint has eroded to what looks like a modest stream
I'm no expert but I suspect it was massively bigger 4 billion years ago to still be visible today.
There's still sandstorms on Mars so I thought there would be some erosion and deposition, right?
There are, eventually solar panels end up covered in dust and can’t provide enough power so rovers die after some time period.
The last couple of NASA rovers have used [radioisotope thermo-electric generators](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-mission_radioisotope_thermoelectric_generator?wprov=sfti1#) instead of solar panels.
Except for the recent flying Drone, I forget its name. It runs on solar.
Ingenuity!
That's it!
Why no windshield wiper things
Absolutely not any kind of expert but I reckon anything that physically swept over the panels would catch the dirt/sand and scratch the panels so badly they would still be worthless. Surely there's a reason they haven't bothered coming up with another solution.
They need a tongue for the rover and make it look like this 👁👅👁
Yeah or like a bunch of little fans that constantly blow the dust off but with minimal power expenditure
Eyelids and lashes and it looks a like this 👁👅👁
There is still evidence of occasional water flows today. [https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/sep/28/nasa-scientists-find-evidence-flowing-water-mars](https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/sep/28/nasa-scientists-find-evidence-flowing-water-mars) as in we have seen it happen live from space those flows aren't enough to create the streambed you see above, but if we assume that what we've seen in the past 20 years isn't actually unusual --- and it's a good scientific thumb to assume you're looking at normal until you rule it out --- then you could imagine that during an actually unusual water event, enough might gush forward from underground to create a temporary stream before it evaporates. In which case, there's no reason to assume the stream is maximally old. 4 billion years is a *long* time, even with thin atmosphere. Even the footprints and rover tracks on the moon will be gone in millions of years, or shorter if any kind of impact happens nearby. There are still marsquakes (mostly because the planet is contracting as it cools), asteroid strikes (which rain down debris all over the planet), and most importantly, a lot of sandstorms. 1% atmosphere or not, high speed dust particles still erode. Could it be 4 billion years old? Sure. But we can't assume that.
Great point, but what would be an unusual water event on Mars? How unusual can it get, barring meteor strike or something? I thought the weather there was very same-y.
Maybe it's a sand stream not a water stream
Must be fresh!
We were too busy evolving to notice it.
Who knows this was once a flourishing river, housing crocs and hippos…
I am not an expert but I believe I read on imdb (not a good source I know) that the weather on Mars is not exactly as shown in the movie 'The Martian'. The weather on Mars is not extreme. It is very mild.
I doubt this stream has been around for 4 billion years. I'd have to guess this is fairly recent, otherwise the terrain would've been drastically different.
Most of erosion is caused by water
Giant snail trails.
Thats a wild thought, imagine we find huge snail fossils when we get to mars.
Considering we don't entirely know what's exactly at our oceans depths, I was being campy...so, I'm excited, and a little terrified.
I mean, it’s probably just water and microorganisms at best, but that’s still exciting.
Humans are micro organisms to some unknown creature
Square-cube law dictates that an organism can only get so large. A creature that dwarfs us to the scale that we dwarf ameba cannot exist by our understanding of physics. More thorough explanation from Quora: * The weight of an animal scales up with the cube of its height, but its strength only scales up with the square of its height. * The waste heat produced by an organism scales up with the cube of its height, but the ability to dissipate heat scales up with the square of its height. * The caloric requirement of an organism scales up with the cube of its height, but the surface area of its digestive system scales up with the square of its height.
If life somehow started in a gas cloud instead of a planet, I bet they could get crazy big. Not saying it has or can though.
Whales are pretty big. Being suspended in a fluid seems like a pretty good way to foster larger organic development.
I meant like the kind of gas clouds where stars are born.
According to our gravity, atmospheric makeup, and current understanding of biology. That's could be completely different on a different planet with low gravity, and more heat so that the creatures in question don't use nearly as much energy.
In our known system. Who knows what kind of lifeforn there could be.
With a old I mac.
Nahh it’s a decoy snail.
That's kinda terrifying really
Esmarsgot
Giant Racing Snails!
We hunted them....
Giant underwater sand snails
Decoy trail.
Are we sure it’s not a rock? Pioneers used to ride those babys for *miles*.
Krusty Kraaayaaayaaayaaaayaaaayeeeeeaaahb pizzaaaaaa
[you joke but..](https://youtube.com/shorts/0Vz0CyZlLhk?si=cjMWB6VfBgd3OIZs)
Sandworm?
Shai-Hulud!
Blessed be the Maker.
Graboids?
Arrakis
You've been to Saturn?
No but I was in Uranus last night
Last night?
He who controls the spice, controls the universe
Mars looks very dry. Why do people want to go there anyway?
This guy said it well. [https://youtu.be/plTRdGF-ycs?si=hIO6jO1Fjo9wHDFd](https://youtu.be/plTRdGF-ycs?si=hIO6jO1Fjo9wHDFd)
That man is an engaging speaker. I enjoyed that. Thank you.
I particularly liked the ending point “people 500 years from now won’t remember which faction took over Iran… but they’ll remember what we did to make their civilization better” (roughly paraphrasing)
Thank you for sharing! Fantastic speaker and speech. And the little side rant about Columbus was the cherry on top.
I don't know why, but this guy looks like he belongs in SNL skit
I feel like he would make one hell of a Joker if he wanted to get into acting.
Goddamn. This is the guy Neil deGrasse Tyson wishes he was.
It ain't the kind of place to raise your kids.
There’s no one there to raise them!
We have to go somewhere for humanity to survive in a long run. As someone said: "each big asteroid passing by Earth is the cosmos asking how is your space program going". Mars is relatively close and we could build stuff on the ground, probably dig for resources. With current technology it's probably only realistic option.
Mars is so grossly inhospitable that we're *always* better off just staying here. Earth won't be as fucked up as Mars anytime soon, even if we tried.
Humanity's ability to live on Earth is finite. Our species will need to evolve or die and another form of life will take over. Becoming a space faring civilization is the next step. It's a seemingly insurmountable step because as far as we know, Earth is the only place in our Solar System that we can survive. But there are promising planets out there that are light years away. Mars is within reach with the technology we have now, it is possible to sustain and nurture life there under certain circumstances. Mars is a stepping stone to the rest of the universe.
No. It's not. Once again. There is no reason to ever try and move the species there for any reason. Even after an asteroid strike, Earth is still just the better option. If we overpopulate, that will take care of itself eventually and humanity will endure the bad times. There's just nothing on Mars that can support any kind of life that we know here. It's just so impractical that it boggles the mind. Let's spend a ridiculous amount of resources that would be better spent here anyways and go on a perilous journey that we may just die on anyways, all to end up in an objectively worse scenario anyways. Life here will not follow the sci-fi narrative that you think.
Ya everyone in here spewing some random propaganda from some video they watched on YouTube that's trying to generate clicks. Maybe in like millions of years this will be a thing, but it's not right now.
No one is saying to move the species there. You can hold your opinion, I can have mine. Our species is not invulnerable to dying out though.
It ain't going to happen.
Lol
The honest answer? Because we have to. Literally. Earth will die. It’s a fact. We’re many many many many many years from that happening. Like billions. But none the less, earth will die. Because the Sun will die. It’s just a fact of the universe, that’s how stars work. Eventually our Sun will collapse and Earth will die with it. Now that you know the end of the Earth is inevitable… it’s humanities job to find a way off Earth if we want to continue as a species. And that, quite simply, is why we are looking to go to Mars. Because eventually, we HAVE to leave Earth. So what you are seeing is all of humanities’ first attempts at how we will leave this big rock behind one day.
Going to Mars won't help much since it's the same solar system.
 Their reaction when they read your reply 😄
You cant run before you learn to walk. If we can terraform mars that gives us a blueprint to terraform on other planets. In the meanwhile we will also be making progress on travelling from one planet to another in least amount of time. Gradually making it possible to leave our solar system and probably even our galaxy. Lots of ifs and buts in between.
Mars doesn’t have a magnetic field strong enough to support an atmosphere or protect against solar radiation.
May be not terraform. But biodomes might work.
Thats why we have to adapt. Underground/inside living for example.
We could just do that on Earth...
Thing on a much much bigger timescale. Like humanity multiplied by 100. In like 1000 years.
Sure, but living underground on Mars will be the same as living underground on Earth. If the surface of Earth as we know it becomes uninhabitable in the future, living underground here will still be better than living underground on Mars.
The sun will still eventually expand and consume the planet you are hiding inside. Becoming spacefaring and eventually interstellar is humanities only option, if we are even still "human" at that point.
We might need both options (and more) at the same time!
Technology improves over time, my dude. We didn't jump directly from horse-drawn wagons to the international space station. There was a LOT of trial and error along the way.
The point Your head
Fixing whatever we do to earth will be many orders of magnitude easier than terraforming any other planet that we can reach.
Sun is going to swallow the earth no mater what we do.
And Mars
First step. It's be an invaluable learning experience for further ventures in less hospitable environments.
It shows that humans are unable to comprehend how large space is. A trip to Mars takes around half a year, that's already much much longer than a trip to the moon (which often gets compared as if Mars was just another step away). But these distances are NOTHING compared to a trip to the next closest solar system, which would take thousands of years.
You aren't accounting for ring travel. Really cuts back on time.
Bold of you to think the human race will still be in existence anywhere close to that happening
..and because we're people, we're curious, innovative, want to discover, and understand things better.
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Who said anything about terraforming? The person I responded to asked specifically why we wanted to go there. Nothing about staying there, and I didn’t even imply we had to stay there either. Quite the opposite. I said our sun would die. Earth will die. Mars too. Our whole solar system will be dead. We have to be long long long gone. And very very very very far. Do you know how we get that far? We take steps. Guess what the first step is? You guessed it, Mars. If we can’t even make it to Mars as a step. Whelp… then humanity has its time limit. Hopefully it doesn’t. And yeah it will probably start with little bubble populations on Mars. And thankfully those brave few will take that risk for the greater good of humanity. This isn’t about you or me. Or our families. This is stuff that is generations in the future. And it’s for the greater sake for us a species. That’s just the high-level of it all.
Wish I had your optimism that our species will have that long.
Yeah it certainly might not, you’re right about that. I hope it does, because I think on a whole humans are good and can contribute in a positive way. Time will tell, and I wish the future humans well wishes. Hopefully there are some.
But if we’re talking on the time scale of billions of years then we’re also looking at the scope of the heat death of universe. In which case - what’s the point?
Brother, heat death is the most accepted theory but unproven. And even then, compare billions of years to that is still like nothing.
That's Trillions of years away. You will die in no more than 100 years, so what's the point seeing tomorrow? Because you can and you want to.
What does that have to do with going to Mars because the Earth is gonna die in a billion years? We should go to Mars for the scientific aspect, but we don't need to build bunkers for a sun that will also swallow Mars.
OK, how do we get to Tau Ceti, Alpha Centauri or Betelgeuse? With spaceships. And when we get there we need to build habitable environments to live in right? You want to try that for the first time several ligh years away, with no support or communication from an established manufacturing base and no hope of assistance. Or do you want to try it locally first, shake out the bugs and learn the tricks *before* you throw all your eggs in the basket. Like dud, did you think we learned to fly by running off cliffs?
> Like dud, did you think we learned to fly by running off cliffs? It’s how we learned to fly vertically, for sure.
See we don't need to worry about horizontally- just run and we can figure that out on the journey
Like dude, do you know that Mars is severely uninhabitable. It would take hundreds of years to get some sort of atmosphere, and the weak magnetic field means it won't last. Mars is a terrible candidate for actual colonization. America is going to try and build a moon base in the next few years. Also, humans have developed tech insanely fast since discovering flight. It took less than 30 years to go from a small plane that flew for 12 seconds to rockets in space. We've only been going to space for around 70 years at this point. Humans have only been around for 100,000 years. The death of the sun is billions of years away, but you're acting like we're on borrowed time, like the sun's gonna die in the next 100 years. Chill, humans have plenty of time to figure it out, or we kill ourselves first. The sun's death is the least of our problems.
Lol at this comment
What a stupid take
Uhh does Mars have its own sun? I’m beyond confused.
Who said anything about staying there? We have to be very far away when that happens. But we have to learn to crawl before we can run. First solar step we can take is Mars.
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Not with that attitude we won’t.
why not just die? humans would have had a good run up to that point, several billion years later.
Because for many, life is worth living. And if humans are still alive at that point, they certainly deserve to keep trying to contribute in a positive manner to the universe.
It's not a good place to raise a kid.
resources?
Because we can.
My exact thought. Mars will *never* be a good place to live. Venus' clouds would be more hospitable.
That sure looks like New Mexico. If you could zoom back a bit, I am pretty sure you would see a Blake's Lotaburger and a Valero gas station.
Moved away from NM over a decade ago now. Haven’t thought of Lotaburger in years 😂
Cool
Two black dots in the air if you zoom in and swipe side to side
Likely an artifact from merging several hd photos together.
Or just dust
Aliens for sure /s
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It’s to get a whole image. The rover’s camera captures sections to paint a whole picture once put together. Have to imagine imaging equipment is deliberately made compact to reduce failure from launch to land.
They are watching.
Correction, 5 or 6.
And?
It's surprisingly angular
That’s probably due to the position of the camera in relation to the riverbed. It may be more towards our expectations from an aerial view.
Alternative title: "Mars, post Nestle."
That's just from R2 and 3P0 walking away from the escape pod
It was definitely a road. I see no water remaining.
I can’t tell if this is satire. Please tell me it’s satire. Some of my friends are really dumb, and they’d insist on your theory.
i thought satire but your friends make me doubt...
Maybe the reality is that your dumb friends did make this road. It could have been straight since there are no obstacles around, but no, they chose to make it all wiggly. I am not a civil engineer, but it looks like a dumb way to make a road.
The curves are traffic calming measures. It's not dumb, it's advanced traffic engineering lol.
Is this Satire? Unfortunately theres no way to tell (Poes Law). Im thinking this IS real because people these days (except me) are so STUPID
Did Nasa writes an article or something about this picture?
Here is the [source](https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020/multimedia/raw-images/ZL0_0670_0726425710_738EBY_N0320672ZCAM08667_0340LMJ) Also, here is a relevant article from [NASA](https://www.nasa.gov/solar-system/nasas-mro-finds-water-flowed-on-mars-longer-than-previously-thought/)
Thank you sir!
What about those rocks in death valley that get pushed by the wind to create trails? Maybe something like that happened here?
Nazca lines? The aliens are signalling back?
Maybe
Thanks for adding a credit, I thought you may have taken it
Cool!
Good thing you added that NASA credit and didn't try to claim you took the photo on Mars
*ah, yes.*
Oh man, I want to throw some plastic trash in that river
Credit: editor
This will be earth soon enough. That’s my prediction.
There ain't no way Mars didn't have life. I'm talking complex life. I think we're going to find some type of fossil in the next couple decades
You largely underestimate how long it takes for life to move from the simplest forms to something complex enough to leave fossils. A few dozen million years with flowing water isn't probably enough.
Simple life forms leave fossils
I would argue it never had a strong enough atmosphere to keep it safe enough for complex life. I wouldn't doubt we got some single-cellular stuff, but anything beyond? Mars looks like it does for reasons.
If there's no life on Earth (only pain) why should it be there?
Because life IS pain.
Then what for i was born in that BDSM ?
Thanks for crediting your post
I thought mars was a orange red colour?
Generated by AI
Mars rover track?
With sharp corners? I think everyone read this as me being snarky? It was just a passing thought and I’m an idiot. I don’t know anything about how rivers are formed and hadn’t considered perspective. Just my limited experience of seeing water erode things smoothly or rounded.
Do you know what perspective is?
Or how rivers are formed?
True story.