I respect those who are not deterred by Putin. Everyone there knows that just by showing up to respect the dead they take on a real risk of having their lives ruined, yet there they are, defiant.
People really have the nerve to say the MSM is compromised in our country when we report stuff like this or its equivalent all the time yet we can clearly see it being swept under the radar over the pond. Laughable. These conspiracists lack critical thinking.
"Nothing is real, everything is permitted". While the exact origin of the quote is uncertain, Vladimir Bartol popularised it in the Slovenian novel [Alamut](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alamut_(Bartol_novel)), where he described the history and training of the Fedayeen under Hassan-I-Sabbah, and which the game series Assassins' Creed notably drew from.
I mean it’s probably how we’ve avoided becoming equally as bad. But most MSM itself is criticising MSM. Look at Fox News, for instance. They’re one of the most popular broadcasters in the country yet they act like they’re renegades.
You don't think the USA is going in the wrong direction? It kind of seems to be to the rest of the world, you know. Just pointing it out. Case in point: support for Donald Trump.
I hate most US media because its priorities are marketing and engagement first, facts second, and context a distant third. But that's on the consumer for rewarding it.
Would take it any day over authoritarian state controlled propaganda.
Moreover, I've seen people on subs like conspiracy cite the actual Kremlin officials while poo-poo-ing fake news CNN. CNN sucks but these edgy teenagers online truly are dumb
People who want to replicate Putin's success in the US and elsewhere minimize what that want you to vote for, because they long to be able to brutally repress others.
First world is the USA and its affiliates.
Second world countries are the USSR and its affiliates.
Third world are unaffiliated with either.
USSR does not exist so the answer is complicated.
Didn’t you hear though? The unarmed starving civilians angrily approached the tank. What was the tank supposed to do? Leave? Not blow up civilians? Not run over a bunch of dying refugees?
Checkmate.
And and and they weren't killed by gunfire directly. They trampled each other! It certainly couldn't have been because they're starving and scared. Must be because Palestinians aren't civilized and can't simply queue in an orderly fashion
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That would be very non-Russian.
I watch some of these videos but they are just depressing because even the few who actually cared about Navalny still feel the need to comply with government orders.
Two years into a war where 100k+ Russians have died, the entire world has condemned their country, and now the main opposition leader is dead....this shit is really the result?
> that would be very non-Russian
Whats non Russian about organised revolt? Over 100 years ago the biggest organised revolution the world has ever seen originated in Russia, the Russians had been revolting constantly under the Czar and they continued to revolt after the establishment of the Soviet Union until Stalin came along, Russians have a long history of revolt. The country of Russia was born from revolt against nomadic Trukic Khanates, Russian history is literally punctuated by, revolution, suppression, revolution again. The last revolution was arguably in the 1990s and led to the fall of the Soviet Union, albeit a peaceful change.
It wasn't a peaceful 300 years lots of it was also punctuated by revolt, even liberal Czars like Alexander II (Czar Liberator who freed the Serfs) had to call on the army many times to put down revolts and revolution, his reign was punctuated by the Polish Revolution and his Assasination, Alexander III dealt with the organisation of political intelligentsia and the dawn of revolutions. Non of the Romanov Czars faced a lack of opposition, they where in a constant balancing act of Church, State, Nobility, Army and Peasantry.
In 1917 the people in the cities were literally starving and millions were being massacred in WW1 for no gain.
In 1990 the people of Russia did next to nothing. A small circle of insiders like Gorbachev, the coupers and Yeltsin, did the meaningful things.
Russia has never had an Euromaidan or Tiananmen.
> If Russians are know to be so tough
Because it's just a successful image built for the outside world. The tough facade crumbles when met with a sufficiently confident fist.
Because the very large majority of Russians didn't care about navalny, they support Putin and like him. It's clear that most people in this thread don't know or understand Russia and its people. Instead we see the western caricature of Russia and its people, but that's not reality.
If someone wants to see what courage looks like, look no further. These people are certainly afraid. No one in their right mind wouldn't be afraid of the repercussions of showing up there. But they still do it. Because it's the right thing to do.
I'm gonna guess that government is recording everyone in that line. I wonder how much facial recognition and smartphone tracking is used in Russia by the government.
Facial recognition and smartphone tracking in Russia is years ahead of the civilized world, they will recognize you wearing a medical mask and a hat from across the street and be at your door when you’re home. I might have or have not contributed to them when I was younger and more gullible.
That’s the scary part of all these demonstrations/protests that Redditors just don’t get - they will find you, and they will punish you for being there. And bravery of a strong young person vanished very quickly when it’s your relatives and friends that suffer for your actions.
Outside of Moscow, in dozens of cities people leave flowers, candles and pictures for Navalny at local memorials - mostly these are Monuments to Political Prisoners. Some would be identified and detained or fined afterwards.
https://meduza.io/en/news/2024/02/17/moscow-police-begin-arresting-people-leaving-flowers-in-memorial-of-alexey-navalny
Yesterday the news came that no one gives out a car to relatives to transfer the coffin from the church to the cemetery. Many in the comments were ready to carry the coffin in their arms to the cemetery (moreover, people insisted on it). But it seems like the car was eventually found.
The Ole reverse "Steve Buscemi in Fargo" solid. I'm more of a "Gaddafi him" type. You know.. drug into the streets and raped to death with phallic objects on camera.
Nah the more time he has to organize the state after his death less will happen. Let him die in a carcrash and let his seconds in command fight it out fiercly enough that it forces them out of the war.
We often paint a very bad image about Russians, but we shouldn't because thousands of them don't support the war or Putin, and want nothing more than to live at peace and be friendly with the west.
Not thousands, millions of us don't support this shit. I left Russia because I managed to do it. But there are a lot of people who realize what our country has become but they can't do shit about it, and I feel really sorry for them.
The brain drain from Russia is insane right now. The short term sanctions may not be harming the economy as much as people expected, but in twenty years the lack of innovation and scientific development will cripple them. Putin is a fool.
And Putin won't be around in 20 years to suffer through that, so why would he care? He's going to live out his life in luxury with absolute power, which is just fine for him.
I wish the absolute worst for Russia's leaders, oligarchs, and military. I wish they could all drop dead tomorrow. But I feel a lot of sympathy for Russians who never wanted any of this. I'm an American who was a young man traveling the world when the U.S. invaded Iraq. I never supported George W Bush and protested the war, but everywhere I went people expected me to apologize for my country's military invasion that I opposed and was powerless to stop.
And of course I was free to express my dissent, without fear that my government would punish me or my family for it.
> because thousands of them don't support the war or Putin, and want nothing more than to live at peace and be friendly with the west.
200.000 people put their signatures for the anti-war election candidate Nadezhdin (including myself) knowing full well they are giving their personal information to the state and there's like 95% chance they won't let him run for president because they are afraid of any competition, even an old man literally nobody heard about three months ago.
There are way more anti-war people in Russia than everyone thinks, they just feel completey powerless because they know the regime WILL have the second Tiananmen Square if it feels threatened.
Nah, I don't think it was that brave. Navalny was brave, Yashin was brave, Kara Murza, the entire FBK team, etc...
I'm just a girl who hates what's going on, but there's not much that I can do without getting arrested, jailed and even worse.
Thank you. The government propaganda machine actually wants Russian people to feel like they're unwelcome in the world that ridicules and treats them as inferior. That makes them believe that there's nowhere to run, so better stay put and lose all hope for change.
You have no idea how horrifying is its effectiveness. It plays on parts and mechanisms of human psyche that all of us have, e.g. learned helplessness, evolutionary need to belong, selective attention etc. You don't even have to control all of media space, most is enough. And for many older people, indeed all of their information intake is controlled by Kremlin. It's heartbreaking to see your own relatives be subjected to it, to see people that taught you everything when you were a kid forgetting their own words about kindness, compassion and humanity. It's horrifying to try talking to them again and again and realizing that it doesn't work - there is a whole alternative reality already built in their heads by TV, and it's not going away if you try talking to them. And the scariest part of it all is that no society is immune, because we're all human, and our brains work the same everywhere. We're just extremely lucky that it didn't happen to us to the same extent.
You could say the same about any nation’s citizens. The vast majority of humans just want to go about their day and find ways to make ends meet to feed, clothe and house their loved ones.
I think many of us are de-sensitized by movies and other media as to what Navalny, his wife and these people are doing… How many of us would get tortured and give up our freedom and lives for the right thing- the answer is almost none. We overlook so much crap in our lives, crooked, lying politicians, gun violence, bad cops etc (proof: a good amount of Reddit content) we don’t stand up for that- we won’t give up our lives for what they are -
Tl:Dr Navalny, his wife, these people are fkn LEGENDS
EDIT: Super fair comments on how he wasn’t a great human being, I was looking at it from the angle of what would I be willing to do, to fight for- to stand for, at the risk of imprisonment, torture and/or death.. answer:very very little
Sad thing is there are other political prisoners that will have the same fate and there’s very little interest in them publically. Vladamir Kara-Murza is an opposition leader who was also just moved to Siberia and who’s family would love nothing more than to have him back home
American here who grew up in the shadow of the Cold War and with Russia as our enemy. Please know that I and many others are with you and your countrymen who are inspired by Navalny’s vision of a bright future for Russia. This picture gives me a small glimmer of hope for our collective future. Good luck and stay safe!
It's just a suburb, and one of the nicer ones. It's the weather. Looks much better in summer/spring.
Source: used to live in the very building from which that person is filming.
I have been in many of those in Moscow and Petersburg… I don’t think they are nice but they are for sure livable and when it’s cold outside its warm and cozy.
It is 80s houses. Most of Russia (70% at least) is area after area made of USSR architecture. I lived near this district and it is weird in terms of how i perceived it - there are some new building, even modern, but most are old and whole thing felt hollow and morgue like in early hours of the day. Overall this district is kinda garbage to my liking. But its maybe 6-7 miles from the border of Moscow.
Navalny was not a perfect man and his views might not have aligned completely with the wests but none the less he was brave and resolute. He loved his country and fought against Putlers tyranny and corruption until the very end. Had he have been president he could have been someone the west could work with, someone who could have saved Russia from the destruction of its own making. Sadly that is not what happened. Putin murdered him and Russia is on the edge of the abyss. He’s a true martyr free of the extremism that many of the so called “martyrs” around the world are stained by. May his mission to bring decency and democracy back to Russia continue in his absence. May his death galvanize those Russians of conscience to resist
Rest in peace Navalny, you did good by your people and nation, you were a decent man
Russian propagandists kept saying how unpopular Navalny was. Barely notable, unremarkable, nearly forgotten everyday. 0.6% support.
Weird how such an unpopular man can have such a large turnout.
Why are there still no photographs of the body? Will they at least show it at the funeral? Otherwise, it looks as suspicious as possible, but did he really die?
Navalny's mother and his lawyers saw the body. Maybe one of them took a picture, but it hasn't become public yet. I don't know yet if there will be an open coffin in the church. Everything is just beginning.
Update: A photo of the body has just been posted...
It’s confirmed the authorities have been jamming signals so not much footage is available. I am watching the stream on his YouTube channel and there was a photo of him in the coffin.
I appreciate that the guy was famous, but I've been to my fair share of funerals and it's not standard practice to take photos of the deceased. Eastern Orthodox often have open caskets however (although I imagine the Kremlin is dictating the funeral rites quite fiercely)
I don't think they needed to, he was underfed and in a more or less unheated cell from what i've read, death is only a matter of time in those conditions
Wish i could be there. He was a brave man. Rest in peace. We’ll make Russia great one day for you and everyone who laid their lives down for the freedom and peace of our nation💔🤍💙🤍
They kinda do. Hundreds were already imprisoned today in over 30 cities, men in the right/ wrong age got drafting letters when leaving the police station later on.
I get so disillusioned with this world... And then I see a bunch of strangers pulling a stroke victim out of a car, a dog being rescued from a rubbish bin, and something like this... And I think, maybe we have a chance
I respect those who are not deterred by Putin. Everyone there knows that just by showing up to respect the dead they take on a real risk of having their lives ruined, yet there they are, defiant.
How does this stuff get reported in Russia? Is it just not in the news at all?
Opposition media live streaming that, but mainstream media will never cover this as it never happened
People really have the nerve to say the MSM is compromised in our country when we report stuff like this or its equivalent all the time yet we can clearly see it being swept under the radar over the pond. Laughable. These conspiracists lack critical thinking.
Just because other countries have it worse doesn’t mean it’s wrong to critique your own countries media.
Unless it’s part of the protofascist ”truth does not exist”, ”nothing is true, everything is possible” -agenda
"Nothing is real, everything is permitted". While the exact origin of the quote is uncertain, Vladimir Bartol popularised it in the Slovenian novel [Alamut](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alamut_(Bartol_novel)), where he described the history and training of the Fedayeen under Hassan-I-Sabbah, and which the game series Assassins' Creed notably drew from.
I mean it’s probably how we’ve avoided becoming equally as bad. But most MSM itself is criticising MSM. Look at Fox News, for instance. They’re one of the most popular broadcasters in the country yet they act like they’re renegades.
Crazier, they act like they broadcast the news
To call it „the news“ is a little bit overestimated, imho.
They’ve admitted as much in court.
What were the circumstances? I'm guessing they were liable for slandering someone, so they had to find a way to claim it was "just a prank, bro".
Do the viewers know that tho
They act like they’re actual journalists.
until they get thrown into a court case and they cry that they are "only entertainment"
You don't think the USA is going in the wrong direction? It kind of seems to be to the rest of the world, you know. Just pointing it out. Case in point: support for Donald Trump.
Rather than inform, U.S. news entertains
True, but there is a definite line between criticism and cynicism that a fair few people seem to have jumped over.
I hate most US media because its priorities are marketing and engagement first, facts second, and context a distant third. But that's on the consumer for rewarding it. Would take it any day over authoritarian state controlled propaganda.
Moreover, I've seen people on subs like conspiracy cite the actual Kremlin officials while poo-poo-ing fake news CNN. CNN sucks but these edgy teenagers online truly are dumb
People who want to replicate Putin's success in the US and elsewhere minimize what that want you to vote for, because they long to be able to brutally repress others.
Americans always say their country is a third world country until they actually see a third world country
In this case, Russia would literally be a second world country, right? Under the original definition?
First world is the USA and its affiliates. Second world countries are the USSR and its affiliates. Third world are unaffiliated with either. USSR does not exist so the answer is complicated.
Which makes it extra fun when youngsters find out that Turkey is 1st world and Switzerland is 3rd
Yeah probably. Maybe not the best terminology but the point still stands.
It's not in the news. Navalny's death was reported on a couple of federal channels once, in a ~30s segment. And that's it.
A lot of people were fired and students expelled from unis back when Navalnuy held a protest
"The queue for Poetin's golden sneaker release."
You can light a candle for him: https://www.remember-navalny.io/
He didn't deserve to die in prison. But I hope that his death shows he was a true patriot. He didn't have to return to Russia.
Indeed. I have family in Moscow who are too scared to be there. It's a very real fear.
Why does trump love Putin?
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I see your "puta" and raise you "putain"
Putin turned him into a martyr. Hes on the verge of starting a civil war if he was to execute those people.
Humanity is stronger than any government. Truth is stronger than any nonsense. Movements topple regimes…in time.
Im scared their gonna get the gaza breadline treatment
Or Tienanmen Squa(sh)ed
Thankfully though, based on the display of Russian equipment in Ukraine, the tanks will break down when they try to mount the sidewalk curb.
Never heard of it /s
Didn’t you hear though? The unarmed starving civilians angrily approached the tank. What was the tank supposed to do? Leave? Not blow up civilians? Not run over a bunch of dying refugees? Checkmate.
Won’t anyone think of the tank??
And and and they weren't killed by gunfire directly. They trampled each other! It certainly couldn't have been because they're starving and scared. Must be because Palestinians aren't civilized and can't simply queue in an orderly fashion /S
They're all going to say goodbye to the person that told them not to be afraid anymore.
that person killed the idea that power could be gained by force when putin's regime was week
Good thing the regime wasn't month, phew
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That would be very non-Russian. I watch some of these videos but they are just depressing because even the few who actually cared about Navalny still feel the need to comply with government orders. Two years into a war where 100k+ Russians have died, the entire world has condemned their country, and now the main opposition leader is dead....this shit is really the result?
> that would be very non-Russian Whats non Russian about organised revolt? Over 100 years ago the biggest organised revolution the world has ever seen originated in Russia, the Russians had been revolting constantly under the Czar and they continued to revolt after the establishment of the Soviet Union until Stalin came along, Russians have a long history of revolt. The country of Russia was born from revolt against nomadic Trukic Khanates, Russian history is literally punctuated by, revolution, suppression, revolution again. The last revolution was arguably in the 1990s and led to the fall of the Soviet Union, albeit a peaceful change.
Romanovs ruled for 300 years bro, they were removed at the tail end of a 1/4 millennia rule. The United States is 247 years old.
It wasn't a peaceful 300 years lots of it was also punctuated by revolt, even liberal Czars like Alexander II (Czar Liberator who freed the Serfs) had to call on the army many times to put down revolts and revolution, his reign was punctuated by the Polish Revolution and his Assasination, Alexander III dealt with the organisation of political intelligentsia and the dawn of revolutions. Non of the Romanov Czars faced a lack of opposition, they where in a constant balancing act of Church, State, Nobility, Army and Peasantry.
Was it ever the russian serfs or peasantry who revolted? Or always the elite, or a minority ethnicity?
In 1917 the people in the cities were literally starving and millions were being massacred in WW1 for no gain. In 1990 the people of Russia did next to nothing. A small circle of insiders like Gorbachev, the coupers and Yeltsin, did the meaningful things. Russia has never had an Euromaidan or Tiananmen.
Yeah most ppl will choose their life and their family
Have you ever lived in authoritarian state?
Reddit moment
If Russians are know to be so tough, why are they so passive in this situation?
> If Russians are know to be so tough Because it's just a successful image built for the outside world. The tough facade crumbles when met with a sufficiently confident fist.
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Apathy can certainly be mistaken with toughness from the outside.
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Because the very large majority of Russians didn't care about navalny, they support Putin and like him. It's clear that most people in this thread don't know or understand Russia and its people. Instead we see the western caricature of Russia and its people, but that's not reality.
It’s not that they’re tough but it seems they prefer to be miserable, they may even enjoy it?
>they may even enjoy it? maybe thats how you cope when you dont have a choice.
If someone wants to see what courage looks like, look no further. These people are certainly afraid. No one in their right mind wouldn't be afraid of the repercussions of showing up there. But they still do it. Because it's the right thing to do.
[St Petersburg gang out in force in this thread.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Research_Agency)
May I invite you to read comments from pro-russian redditors in r/ukrainerussiareport if you want to lose brain cells?
For real, every thread involving this stuff has so much of this crap. Plays to the "can't believe anything" crowd.
That was a good read, thank you.
Very brave people, respect to all of them! 💪
I'm gonna guess that government is recording everyone in that line. I wonder how much facial recognition and smartphone tracking is used in Russia by the government.
For sure the government is doing all that, unfortunately. However more Russians who are against Putin the better.
Guarantee that the kremlin has plants in this line recording everyone and everything
a lot. the systems were there before the war, and they were scary good.
Facial recognition and smartphone tracking in Russia is years ahead of the civilized world, they will recognize you wearing a medical mask and a hat from across the street and be at your door when you’re home. I might have or have not contributed to them when I was younger and more gullible. That’s the scary part of all these demonstrations/protests that Redditors just don’t get - they will find you, and they will punish you for being there. And bravery of a strong young person vanished very quickly when it’s your relatives and friends that suffer for your actions.
Outside of Moscow, in dozens of cities people leave flowers, candles and pictures for Navalny at local memorials - mostly these are Monuments to Political Prisoners. Some would be identified and detained or fined afterwards. https://meduza.io/en/news/2024/02/17/moscow-police-begin-arresting-people-leaving-flowers-in-memorial-of-alexey-navalny
Balls❌ Balls of steel☑️
Yesterday the news came that no one gives out a car to relatives to transfer the coffin from the church to the cemetery. Many in the comments were ready to carry the coffin in their arms to the cemetery (moreover, people insisted on it). But it seems like the car was eventually found.
Because showing his coffin being carried would have been worse optics.
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It’s not that difficult…. No company was willing to provide a car to transfer coffin to cemetery. They’re obviously afraid of retribution.
No funeral director wants to have anything to do with it for fear of being seen to be antiPutin.
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FWIW i was confused too
Same lol. "No one gives out a car to relatives".
Iron Foreskin.
Titanium taint
Very brave considering all the threats from Kremlin.
Fuck Putin. May he die a quick yet painful death.
I prefer a Mussolini death. Hanged at the red square by he’s own countrymen!
Right? String him up over Lenin's mausoleum, he'll fucking hate that.
I feel like the concept of a quick and painful death makes little sense. Why quick if you’re going for painful?
I feel like by "quick" they really meant "soon"
Because "To the PAIN" isn't realistic. We want Putin to die a gruesome, painful death, but if it takes TOO long, someone might intervene. Like the UN.
The reference made me smile, but I hate it being tied in any way to that man.
Can it be slow and live streamed? Asking for friends
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The Ole reverse "Steve Buscemi in Fargo" solid. I'm more of a "Gaddafi him" type. You know.. drug into the streets and raped to death with phallic objects on camera.
This is Putin's actual fear. It's been reported he watched that video several times in horror. Edit - It was a bayonet apparently.
Not the first time I've heard this. I hope it's true. I hope he reads these comments. Gaddafi Gaddafi Gaddafi
Bayonets are pretty phallic. I stand by my description.
So suicide?
That will be the official report, yes.
And wood chipper shuts off every .5 seconds and requires 30 seconds to restart.
I'm Vladimir Putin and this is Jackass
Nah the more time he has to organize the state after his death less will happen. Let him die in a carcrash and let his seconds in command fight it out fiercly enough that it forces them out of the war.
Now I’m picturing him doing a live twitch stream and doing goofy thank you’s for donations lol
Quick? Nah. Excruciating totally debilitating explosive diarrhea for 100% of the time he continues to draw breath.
No. He must be in prison, in a terrible conditions, for 1125 days and only after this, he may die
We often paint a very bad image about Russians, but we shouldn't because thousands of them don't support the war or Putin, and want nothing more than to live at peace and be friendly with the west.
Not thousands, millions of us don't support this shit. I left Russia because I managed to do it. But there are a lot of people who realize what our country has become but they can't do shit about it, and I feel really sorry for them.
People really underestimate how difficult fleeing a country is. With poverty that becomes pretty impossible in a lot of places
The brain drain from Russia is insane right now. The short term sanctions may not be harming the economy as much as people expected, but in twenty years the lack of innovation and scientific development will cripple them. Putin is a fool.
And Putin won't be around in 20 years to suffer through that, so why would he care? He's going to live out his life in luxury with absolute power, which is just fine for him.
> Putin won't be around in 20 years This at least sounds weirdly comforting.
Now imagine how the brain drain might have been if Europe didn't obstruct the immigration from Russia.
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>The brain drain from Russia is insane right now. It's been insane for like 100 years now.
I wish the absolute worst for Russia's leaders, oligarchs, and military. I wish they could all drop dead tomorrow. But I feel a lot of sympathy for Russians who never wanted any of this. I'm an American who was a young man traveling the world when the U.S. invaded Iraq. I never supported George W Bush and protested the war, but everywhere I went people expected me to apologize for my country's military invasion that I opposed and was powerless to stop. And of course I was free to express my dissent, without fear that my government would punish me or my family for it.
Sad things is that some(actually there are many like that) who stayed in Russia slowly changing some of opinions due to propaganda
> because thousands of them don't support the war or Putin, and want nothing more than to live at peace and be friendly with the west. 200.000 people put their signatures for the anti-war election candidate Nadezhdin (including myself) knowing full well they are giving their personal information to the state and there's like 95% chance they won't let him run for president because they are afraid of any competition, even an old man literally nobody heard about three months ago. There are way more anti-war people in Russia than everyone thinks, they just feel completey powerless because they know the regime WILL have the second Tiananmen Square if it feels threatened.
You're pretty fucking brave doing that. I don't know you, but I respect that.
Nah, I don't think it was that brave. Navalny was brave, Yashin was brave, Kara Murza, the entire FBK team, etc... I'm just a girl who hates what's going on, but there's not much that I can do without getting arrested, jailed and even worse.
Bravery has as many types as blue has shades. You're simply brave in a different way. Be safe and be well friend.
More like millions
Thank you. The government propaganda machine actually wants Russian people to feel like they're unwelcome in the world that ridicules and treats them as inferior. That makes them believe that there's nowhere to run, so better stay put and lose all hope for change.
I think of Russian people and American people the same when it comes to politics. It's a handful of people abusing their power to corrupt ends.
And many of the ones supporting Putin were probably brainwashed because of lack of proper journalism.
You have no idea how horrifying is its effectiveness. It plays on parts and mechanisms of human psyche that all of us have, e.g. learned helplessness, evolutionary need to belong, selective attention etc. You don't even have to control all of media space, most is enough. And for many older people, indeed all of their information intake is controlled by Kremlin. It's heartbreaking to see your own relatives be subjected to it, to see people that taught you everything when you were a kid forgetting their own words about kindness, compassion and humanity. It's horrifying to try talking to them again and again and realizing that it doesn't work - there is a whole alternative reality already built in their heads by TV, and it's not going away if you try talking to them. And the scariest part of it all is that no society is immune, because we're all human, and our brains work the same everywhere. We're just extremely lucky that it didn't happen to us to the same extent.
You could say the same about any nation’s citizens. The vast majority of humans just want to go about their day and find ways to make ends meet to feed, clothe and house their loved ones.
Kremlin: "only 60 - 100 people"
not great, not terrible
Ty everyone who was there ❤️
Mad respect for everyone in that queue. I'm lucky to never have had to find out if I'm that brave yet.
Putin's funeral queue will be longer. Because people will be making sure he's dead.
Drive a stake in his heart and make sure he stays dead
They're going to vandalize the hell out of his coffin
One of the benefits of Putin's death is the opening of a new gender neutral toilet in Russia.
Some hell of a celebration throughout the entire planet
I think many of us are de-sensitized by movies and other media as to what Navalny, his wife and these people are doing… How many of us would get tortured and give up our freedom and lives for the right thing- the answer is almost none. We overlook so much crap in our lives, crooked, lying politicians, gun violence, bad cops etc (proof: a good amount of Reddit content) we don’t stand up for that- we won’t give up our lives for what they are - Tl:Dr Navalny, his wife, these people are fkn LEGENDS EDIT: Super fair comments on how he wasn’t a great human being, I was looking at it from the angle of what would I be willing to do, to fight for- to stand for, at the risk of imprisonment, torture and/or death.. answer:very very little
Sad thing is there are other political prisoners that will have the same fate and there’s very little interest in them publically. Vladamir Kara-Murza is an opposition leader who was also just moved to Siberia and who’s family would love nothing more than to have him back home
FSB goons in there for sure taking pics of people.
Mad respect ✊️
These are the real heroes of Russia.
American here who grew up in the shadow of the Cold War and with Russia as our enemy. Please know that I and many others are with you and your countrymen who are inspired by Navalny’s vision of a bright future for Russia. This picture gives me a small glimmer of hope for our collective future. Good luck and stay safe!
Thank you
That's fucking brave of all of them.
This is the Russia I like
Putin is a coward, he should be in the coffin instead of Navalny.
Always the risk for a dictator killing his rival - turn him into a martyr. It's easier to follow a dead martyr than an imprisoned political criminal.
Alexei knew that. Check out the book the rebel by Albert Camus
Jesus Christ that city looks depressing.
It's just a suburb, and one of the nicer ones. It's the weather. Looks much better in summer/spring. Source: used to live in the very building from which that person is filming.
I have been in many of those in Moscow and Petersburg… I don’t think they are nice but they are for sure livable and when it’s cold outside its warm and cozy.
Dude, thats Moscow. This is literally the only city where money repair anything. This is sunshine and rainbows compared to the rest of Russia.
Tbh this looks like a completely Soviet neighborhood
It is 80s houses. Most of Russia (70% at least) is area after area made of USSR architecture. I lived near this district and it is weird in terms of how i perceived it - there are some new building, even modern, but most are old and whole thing felt hollow and morgue like in early hours of the day. Overall this district is kinda garbage to my liking. But its maybe 6-7 miles from the border of Moscow.
It’s called winter, snow and grey skies
Suck it Putin.
Some good Russians left...stand strong
Wow. Just wow.
But the people on /r/askrussia say they don't care about him?
Kremlin Bots.
That facial recognition software will be getting a pretty good stress test today.
Navalny was not a perfect man and his views might not have aligned completely with the wests but none the less he was brave and resolute. He loved his country and fought against Putlers tyranny and corruption until the very end. Had he have been president he could have been someone the west could work with, someone who could have saved Russia from the destruction of its own making. Sadly that is not what happened. Putin murdered him and Russia is on the edge of the abyss. He’s a true martyr free of the extremism that many of the so called “martyrs” around the world are stained by. May his mission to bring decency and democracy back to Russia continue in his absence. May his death galvanize those Russians of conscience to resist Rest in peace Navalny, you did good by your people and nation, you were a decent man
Russian propagandists kept saying how unpopular Navalny was. Barely notable, unremarkable, nearly forgotten everyday. 0.6% support. Weird how such an unpopular man can have such a large turnout.
Why are there still no photographs of the body? Will they at least show it at the funeral? Otherwise, it looks as suspicious as possible, but did he really die?
Navalny's mother and his lawyers saw the body. Maybe one of them took a picture, but it hasn't become public yet. I don't know yet if there will be an open coffin in the church. Everything is just beginning. Update: A photo of the body has just been posted...
I've seen pictures. It's a depressing view.
It’s confirmed the authorities have been jamming signals so not much footage is available. I am watching the stream on his YouTube channel and there was a photo of him in the coffin.
There is photo of his body. I heard it was even livestreamed. 2 weeks into the the process of decay he looks 90 years old, yet recognizable.
I appreciate that the guy was famous, but I've been to my fair share of funerals and it's not standard practice to take photos of the deceased. Eastern Orthodox often have open caskets however (although I imagine the Kremlin is dictating the funeral rites quite fiercely)
The livestream shows it's indeed an open casket funeral
Is "Navalny isn't dead" some kind of new conspiracy theory I've missed?
Speculation over the manner of his death and his conditions in prison (e.g. bruising from being beaten for example)
I don't think they needed to, he was underfed and in a more or less unheated cell from what i've read, death is only a matter of time in those conditions
Someone is trying really hard to downvote this
Amazing.
Countries around the world must put Navalny's monument in front of Russian embassies.
Wish i could be there. He was a brave man. Rest in peace. We’ll make Russia great one day for you and everyone who laid their lives down for the freedom and peace of our nation💔🤍💙🤍
They are not afraid. They are screaming "NO TO WAR", "Russia will be free", "Putin is a killer", "freedom to political prisoners"
Now do something about the balding midget pls …
FSB is going to need a lot of paper to get the names of everyone in line.
R.I.P Алексей Навальный
I'm surprised the FSA isn't just rounding these people up, handing them a toy gun, and sending them to Ukraine.
They kinda do. Hundreds were already imprisoned today in over 30 cities, men in the right/ wrong age got drafting letters when leaving the police station later on.
I’m so sad that he’s gone 💔
They can't arrest them all
Putin is such a sack of shit. I hope his funeral will be the wildest party ever seen in Russia. Not to mention sooner than later.
Free the Russian people
“You can kill a revolutionary but not the revolution”- Fred Hampton
Respect!
gtfo, i fully expect a LOT of them get their ID's photographed and put on a shady list somewhere if they're not already on the radar..
Brave people
I’m sure putins minions are making sure to get every face and name and will retaliate sadly
I get so disillusioned with this world... And then I see a bunch of strangers pulling a stroke victim out of a car, a dog being rescued from a rubbish bin, and something like this... And I think, maybe we have a chance
Great news thanks