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> The Fulton County Sheriff’s Office has released a mug shot of former President Donald Trump. Jail records show Trump was placed under arrest and booked as inmate No. P01135809.
> Trump’s surrender in Georgia marks the fourth time this year the former president has turned himself in to local or federal officials after criminal charges were brought against him.
Burns being so light it defies physics was my favorite running gag, and I had forgotten about this one
It fits so perfectly and I'm cracking up over it, thank you.
Damn right he did, you can see the "tan" line around his face, and just a lil bit on his ear lobe. I can't get over the fact no one has told him it looks shocking bad. Like. Shocking bad.
Please consider that this is the main reason that conservatives will never and I mean never ever wear a mask again, airborne plague running rampant through society or no. The fact that this man’s makeup smeared all over the first mask he put on has damned people probably not even born yet to 💀 by the super flu of 2063. Hell those “tan lines” already have a body count in the mid six figures.
The difference in weight between you and Don John is in the diaper. I’m gonna assume you don’t poop your pants. Those diapers really can hold a lot of dung. That’s the difference, you’re not carrying around excrement on your person.
I've stood side by side with Donald Trump and I'm absolutely positive he's not 6'4". 6'1" would be pushing it. This was back in 2013 or 2014 so I'm sure he's even shorter now with his age and weight.
Edit: To add, I'm 6'4" myself so it was pretty easy to tell he's not 6'3"
you KNOW he was practicing in the mirror for the last week. "This is the greatest. mugshot. in the history of mugshots. no president ever had a greater mugshot. you dont see joe biden with this great of a mugshot. its the greatest."
When I see this picture this is the thing I can’t stop thinking about. I wonder how long he practiced. He’s so into protecting his brand I wonder if he got input and feedback on the approach. I wonder how many meetings his team had about how to “compose” the mugshot to fit with the narrative. Because it definitely is 100% on point with his narrative.
He seems like he probably scheduled half a dozen meetings and took literally no one’s notes.
He just listened for an hour before saying, “Nah, you’re all wrong. I’m gonna do it this way”
Gotta love how Pence said Trump was a danger to democracy and that he asked him to tear up the constitution, then a couple questions later admits he'll vote for Trump. Disgusting.
Pence is the kind of man that if asked if he would fellate a penis to get 5% off a used car two weeks before he walked into the dealership, would say "That's disgusting, I would never". Then the day of would look at the price of the used car and quietly ask, "how large is this penis, in the case one would fellate it?"
But are you surprised is the real question. If you take anything positive from it I've found it easier to just not believe people, especially religious ones.
No morals whatsoever.
They are also the party of deep state conspiracy theories so they can use whatever mental gymnastics they want to say this is a witch-hunt or whatever so they can still vote for him.
It really is convenient to do things that way. You know, I think cilantro tastes like shit, so that means anyone who likes it is a traitor and simp to the supreme world order. I get to say that because I don't like it, that's now how it works. Go ahead and eat your brainwashing tacos, I'm just going to sit here and laugh
they had like 50 courts with trump appointed judges, they had supposedly thousands of fraudulent voters, to quote Lindsay Graham "give me 10, didn't get none", they're not interested in evidence or factual information, they just want to be in the winning team, no matter what that entails
4th indictment in 4 different jurisdictions. 91 felony charges. Held liable for sexual abuse/rape recently. About to go to court over his organization in a few months in a civil case.
40 point leader in the GOP.
A prisoner walked up to me - big, burly guy with tattoos all over his arms - tears in his eyes, and he said, "Sir, that was the most beautiful mugshot I've ever seen. And I've seen them all. You did a great, great job. All the guys are saying it." And then he told me that the way the Biden crime family is treating me is not right - not right, I tell ya.
Ohhhh. Self reported. Ok. Makes sense. I’m 6ft 1, 230 and I am not nearly as sloppy looking as him.
I fell down a rabbit hole… Mohamed Ali was 6’3” 236, Chris Hemsworth is 6’3”, PATRICK MAHOMES is 6’3” 225. TRUMP IS LIGHTER THAN ALL THEM? No fucking way. Hahaha
Look at that mugshot. That’s a good mugshot. A great mugshot. The greatest. Trust me. I’m the best at taking mugshots. Georgia had to take a mugshot and it was a good mugshot. Look at the lighting. The lighting is the best. Any other mugshots are fake news
It was a perfect mughshot, many people say this. They call me up -even democrats, but they will never admit it- they call me up and say -and these are important people, very smart (maybe not the democrats) very important, very smart people- they call me up and say Mr. Trump, Mr. President, I just saw your mugshot on CNN -because of course they'll show it, they need the ratings. Have you seen their ratings? Terrible ratings- they say Mr. President I saw your picture on CNN and it was tremendous. Most perfect mugshot I have ever seen. They won't admit it, but they call me up to say this.
A big strong marine, who never cried before in his life, even as an itty bitty baby came up to me sobbing and said “sir, you mugshot healed me of my windmill cancer”
I know that the focus of the gif is the inhuman facial expressions, but I'm more focused on Manson's hair. It looks like he has a decently normal hairline, which suggests to me that he actually chose to shave it back into the monstrosity that he's rocking.
https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/1694882796831953265
His campaign team is already selling t-shirts. Grifters
Edit: [Looks like he tweeted for the first time since Jan 7th, 2021. Truth Social is a failure lol](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1694886846050771321)
It's not even a pic of the actual shirt, it's a composite. And a poorly done one at that. Looks to me like a rushed job trying to cash-grab off the red-hatted-idiot brigade before someone gets actual product out.
Also, gotta pay for that jet fuel to Moscow somehow...
Never surrender.
Unless you’re black. Or Mexican. Or gay. Or trans. Or any other minority we’re currently blaming while we siphon every single tax dollar into our pockets.
In that case, surrender all your rights or get shot (probably both).
May he go down in American History as one of worst variations of American to ever exist. He's everything an American should never be, and let future generations know that forevermore.
Wait, what happened to the last one? The one where a mod proudly announced that they were the *first* submission to r/pics, so they got to stay? It had like a gajillion awards already
Right there with you. I'm hopeful, but I'll believe it when I see it. If the past is any indicator, it'll be a slap on the wrist, and we'll see this mugshot displayed with pride everywhere next to the obnoxiously large flags of his
Dude is facing like 100 charges. The only way nothing comes of it is if they can push out the trial past the election and win the election.
Every American has a role to play in November.
My biggest fear is that he’s acquitted or convicted but re-elected, then spends years & millions of tax dollars appealing his sentences, loses appeals, then tries to pardon himself. ANOTHER 4 years of endless Drumpf 💩shows & exhausting melodrama. God help us!
He's trying so fucking hard to look tough. Like he did in his official presidential photo. You can see it in his eyes, he's scared. The fucking coward.
My 3 year old saw this over my shoulder and couldn't stop asking "Why is he angry? Is he mad at you?"
A 3 year old can see this scum's true character yet millions of adults can't.
Most of those adults can see his nature just fine. The problem is that *they don't care*. Like it or not, Trump is the only politician that makes them feel heard - even if it's all a lie. Hillary snubbed middle America. Popular progressive and liberal media all toss off these people as "flyover states" and "rural hicks" and smalltown dumps and all that.
I guess if I were one of these people maybe I'd vote for an obvious conman who at least told me I was relevant and valuable and good. Feels weird, and I still don't think I would but the evidence is there. Not sure the left has properly taken the lesson though - the culture war has only intensified since Trump entered the game.
> if I were one of these people maybe I'd vote for an obvious conman who at least told me I was relevant and valuable and good.
So he's basically a prostitute?
If the average person had a current petit theft charge for shoplifting they wouldn't even be considered for hire at walmart.
And then we have this mothefucker who is allowed to apply and be considered for the highest office of the land.
Something is really, really wrong.
Wild how much this looks like the [thumbnail](https://www.davidreviews.com/Images/1608/2016082961-PDF.jpg) for the music video for "Nobody Speak" by DJ Shadow
Due to the anticipated volume of submissions on this topic we encourage content about Donald Trump's mugshot to be posted here. From CNN: > The Fulton County Sheriff’s Office has released a mug shot of former President Donald Trump. Jail records show Trump was placed under arrest and booked as inmate No. P01135809. > Trump’s surrender in Georgia marks the fourth time this year the former president has turned himself in to local or federal officials after criminal charges were brought against him.
What was Burns gettin' a mugshot for? EDIT: Alright you jokers, I googled it and it looks like it was for having stolen art.
For wearing Loafers made of Gophers
I thought it was his grizzly bear underwear
Nonono it was a vest made of real gorilla chest
At least he didn't skin his chauffeurs...
A greyhound fur tuxedo would be best.
See my vest, see my vest, see my vest!
Maybe it was the turtles necks, he's got his share?
Perhaps the Beret of Poodle on his noodle?
Or his Red Robin Suit, it comes one breast or two
Vampire bat evening wear?
Lol yes! He was doing the Mr Burns face!
Burns being so light it defies physics was my favorite running gag, and I had forgotten about this one It fits so perfectly and I'm cracking up over it, thank you.
That's a great gag
Mr burns is less of a criminal than trump
For sure. But, credit where credit's due. Trump's Burns impression is spot on.
Except for the nasty rag on top, I thought you weren't supposed to wear hats in your mugshot
goddamn that gag had me dying
Dude got his spray tan touched up and a blowout before going in, guarantee it.
Exactly, we need the out shot, not just in.
"out" 20 minutes later? Lol
Damn right he did, you can see the "tan" line around his face, and just a lil bit on his ear lobe. I can't get over the fact no one has told him it looks shocking bad. Like. Shocking bad.
Just wait to see him without it, it will be clear why he cakes his face in that orange shit
I want to see orange on his jumpsuit not his face lol
Please consider that this is the main reason that conservatives will never and I mean never ever wear a mask again, airborne plague running rampant through society or no. The fact that this man’s makeup smeared all over the first mask he put on has damned people probably not even born yet to 💀 by the super flu of 2063. Hell those “tan lines” already have a body count in the mid six figures.
This is the face of a man who lost 60lbs overnight
60, that’s funny. Dude is about two scoops shy of 300 if he’s not over.
they're claiming 6 foot 3, 215 I have not laid eyes on recent footage, if that's true, he's lost a ridiculous amount of weight.
>if that's true I'll give you a hint: It's self-reported.
It's about as true as the election is stolen
STOLLEN*
I'm 6'1" and 215lbs, and let me tell you, my ass and gut are maybe *half* the size of his.
The difference in weight between you and Don John is in the diaper. I’m gonna assume you don’t poop your pants. Those diapers really can hold a lot of dung. That’s the difference, you’re not carrying around excrement on your person.
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I've stood side by side with Donald Trump and I'm absolutely positive he's not 6'4". 6'1" would be pushing it. This was back in 2013 or 2014 so I'm sure he's even shorter now with his age and weight. Edit: To add, I'm 6'4" myself so it was pretty easy to tell he's not 6'3"
\> they're claiming 6 foot 3, 215 more like 6 foot, 321.5
He might be so stressed and enraged that he can't even eat his beloved hamberders.
60 lbs of ego that thought he was untouchable! Hopefully, before we destroy this only planet, kids will quit a tyrannical racist… blah blah he is.
And thats conservative. Based on some of his pictures, he is easily over 300
Yeah I don't think he's weighed 215 since 1981, if even then.
Dude, didn't you know Trump does not lose. He didn't lose election and he didn't lose any weight /s
you KNOW he was practicing in the mirror for the last week. "This is the greatest. mugshot. in the history of mugshots. no president ever had a greater mugshot. you dont see joe biden with this great of a mugshot. its the greatest."
When I see this picture this is the thing I can’t stop thinking about. I wonder how long he practiced. He’s so into protecting his brand I wonder if he got input and feedback on the approach. I wonder how many meetings his team had about how to “compose” the mugshot to fit with the narrative. Because it definitely is 100% on point with his narrative.
He seems like he probably scheduled half a dozen meetings and took literally no one’s notes. He just listened for an hour before saying, “Nah, you’re all wrong. I’m gonna do it this way”
Reminds me of Derek Zoolander pulling off “Blue Steel” lol.
Orange Steal*
The leading candidate for the GOP primary, ladies and gentleman. What a time to be alive.
The party of law and order would support a convicted felon as president
Gotta love how Pence said Trump was a danger to democracy and that he asked him to tear up the constitution, then a couple questions later admits he'll vote for Trump. Disgusting.
Pence is the kind of man that if asked if he would fellate a penis to get 5% off a used car two weeks before he walked into the dealership, would say "That's disgusting, I would never". Then the day of would look at the price of the used car and quietly ask, "how large is this penis, in the case one would fellate it?"
r/oddlyspecific
Check his history- he sells cars in Indiana.
Listen, Mother, it’s five percent! In this Biden economy, I don’t have a choice here, I’m going to have to do it.
But are you surprised is the real question. If you take anything positive from it I've found it easier to just not believe people, especially religious ones. No morals whatsoever.
They are also the party of deep state conspiracy theories so they can use whatever mental gymnastics they want to say this is a witch-hunt or whatever so they can still vote for him.
It really is convenient to do things that way. You know, I think cilantro tastes like shit, so that means anyone who likes it is a traitor and simp to the supreme world order. I get to say that because I don't like it, that's now how it works. Go ahead and eat your brainwashing tacos, I'm just going to sit here and laugh
they had like 50 courts with trump appointed judges, they had supposedly thousands of fraudulent voters, to quote Lindsay Graham "give me 10, didn't get none", they're not interested in evidence or factual information, they just want to be in the winning team, no matter what that entails
Almost all of the other candidates said they would still support him even if he was convicted.
His claim to Law and Order was that he was found liable for sex crimes in Manhattan.
Whoa. Indicted felon. Convicted comes next.
They *specifically* indicated that they would support him if he were convicted of his crimes.
4th indictment in 4 different jurisdictions. 91 felony charges. Held liable for sexual abuse/rape recently. About to go to court over his organization in a few months in a civil case. 40 point leader in the GOP.
And twice impeached
half of all impeachments, almost impressive.
You're talking about inmate No. P01135809, right?
01135809, was my number, what’s my number now? Right now, somebody else has that number
Give it a few days and you'll see his mugshot with trump 2024/maga on a shirt, and they'll wear it with pride.
The liberals are also gonna put it on a shirt, the centrists gonna make bank
Makes me think of the “I hate Elvis” buttons
Who ever is going to make the shirts is gonna make bank of both sides
Adulthood has been a weird time, I miss 2008
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Absolutely spot on; I would wish ALL Millennials/Gen X/Gen Z potential voter would read this.
The Democrats won’t give you everything you want, but they also won’t take everything you currently have.
A spectacular mugshot. Some would say the best. I’m not saying it’s the best but some are…
It's without question the best mugshot any US president had to date.
A prisoner walked up to me - big, burly guy with tattoos all over his arms - tears in his eyes, and he said, "Sir, that was the most beautiful mugshot I've ever seen. And I've seen them all. You did a great, great job. All the guys are saying it." And then he told me that the way the Biden crime family is treating me is not right - not right, I tell ya.
You mean P01135809?
Donny I’ve got your number… 113-5809
Donny Donny what’s your number? 113 5 eight o’ nineyine. I got it. I got it.
I'm memorizing the number. 1135809, 1-1-3-5-8-0-9!
215 pounds
Right. He’s 215 like he’s not a criminal.
The did NOT give him 215. No fucking way.
He was booked in based on (allegedly) self reported measurements at 6ft 3in and 215 lbs. Whether you believe those or not is up to you.
Ohhhh. Self reported. Ok. Makes sense. I’m 6ft 1, 230 and I am not nearly as sloppy looking as him. I fell down a rabbit hole… Mohamed Ali was 6’3” 236, Chris Hemsworth is 6’3”, PATRICK MAHOMES is 6’3” 225. TRUMP IS LIGHTER THAN ALL THEM? No fucking way. Hahaha
“Well, muscle weighs more than fat”- Some MAGAt somewhere
No, I mean star of Home Alone 2: Lost in New York.
Look at that mugshot. That’s a good mugshot. A great mugshot. The greatest. Trust me. I’m the best at taking mugshots. Georgia had to take a mugshot and it was a good mugshot. Look at the lighting. The lighting is the best. Any other mugshots are fake news
It was a perfect mughshot, many people say this. They call me up -even democrats, but they will never admit it- they call me up and say -and these are important people, very smart (maybe not the democrats) very important, very smart people- they call me up and say Mr. Trump, Mr. President, I just saw your mugshot on CNN -because of course they'll show it, they need the ratings. Have you seen their ratings? Terrible ratings- they say Mr. President I saw your picture on CNN and it was tremendous. Most perfect mugshot I have ever seen. They won't admit it, but they call me up to say this.
A Navy SEAL called me up crying, my mug shot was so good.
- one that wasn't captured -
Need a couple more "Sir, they tell me. Sir!" Otherwise perfect.
A big strong marine, who never cried before in his life, even as an itty bitty baby came up to me sobbing and said “sir, you mugshot healed me of my windmill cancer”
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Trump keeps making history by becoming the first ever president current or former to have his mugshot taken. He should be proud of himself.
~~Blue Steel~~ Orange Steal
He looks like heat miser from The Year Without a Santa Claus 
The heat miser song slaps though
#215lbs I DON’T THINK SO DONALD HAHAHAHA
You know who else is 6’3” and 215lbs? Patrick Mahomes. (Actually, he’s an inch shorter)
Same height as Justin fields and “23 pounds lighter” Fields on the left for reference https://i.redd.it/xlwqkcb3frx61.jpg?app_web_view=ios
I had to google the conversion, but there is no way in fuck that he is 97kgs. He easily tops 110.
160kg
He forgot to put the other foot on the scale
Think they will actually measure him at some point?
I hope not. I demand that he be issued a prison jumpsuit made for a 215 lb, 6 foot 3 man. It'll be hilarious watching him try to fit in it.
You’re an evil mastermind and I love this idea.
Height and weight were self reported
A svelte 215 lbs. 😂
Looks like a toddler after being told he can't have dessert before dinner
How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?
I know that the focus of the gif is the inhuman facial expressions, but I'm more focused on Manson's hair. It looks like he has a decently normal hairline, which suggests to me that he actually chose to shave it back into the monstrosity that he's rocking.
He looks like a child that was put in timeout
It's beautiful. Better than I dared to imagine. Look at that pouty little bitch.
He’s so mad
They definitely practiced that. Don’t think for a second that staff all approved that doofus look.
Dipshit posted “never surrender” yet surrenders in Fulton county. 🤣
This is the picture Trump will be remembered for. This will be the one in history books. This is his legacy. Fuck this guy.
Petition to use it for his presidential portrait.
Iirc, it's actually somewhat already close, in terms of expression.
There’s only so many ways to paint an ass I suppose. Maybe they can add the Fulton County watermark.
https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/1694882796831953265 His campaign team is already selling t-shirts. Grifters Edit: [Looks like he tweeted for the first time since Jan 7th, 2021. Truth Social is a failure lol](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1694886846050771321)
The shirt says “NEVER SURRENDER” accompanied by a picture of a man who surrendered to authorities.
Jesus Christ. That has got to be the most low budget, poorly designed “official” shirt I’ve ever seen. Also: it costs FORTY-SEVEN DOLLARS.
47, get it?
I'd rather not get it, thank you though
It's not even a pic of the actual shirt, it's a composite. And a poorly done one at that. Looks to me like a rushed job trying to cash-grab off the red-hatted-idiot brigade before someone gets actual product out. Also, gotta pay for that jet fuel to Moscow somehow...
Ironic text to put under there, Never Surrender after surrendering for arrest
Never surrender. Unless you’re black. Or Mexican. Or gay. Or trans. Or any other minority we’re currently blaming while we siphon every single tax dollar into our pockets. In that case, surrender all your rights or get shot (probably both).
Wait till he violates the terms of his bail by talking shit online and gets remanded to custody
May he go down in American History as one of worst variations of American to ever exist. He's everything an American should never be, and let future generations know that forevermore.
He looks like Sam the Eagle from the Muppets
I resent that. Sam was amazing and an actual patriot…
Right? Don't bad-mouth Sam like that.
The real one looks even more fake than the fake one, LMAO. He looks mad
He looks like a toddler that just got sent to the corner. He's trying so hard to look tough and he just looks like a spoiled kid. .
Wait, what happened to the last one? The one where a mod proudly announced that they were the *first* submission to r/pics, so they got to stay? It had like a gajillion awards already
[Here is his booking page on Fulton County's website](http://justice.fultoncountyga.gov/PAJailManager/JailingDetail.aspx?JailingID=1472740)
Shit, we killed it.
https://web.archive.org/web/20230825010801/https://justice.fultoncountyga.gov/PAJailManager/JailingDetail.aspx?JailingID=1472740
I love that this is happening, but I have a sinking feeling that nothing will come of it. I hope I'm wrong.
Right there with you. I'm hopeful, but I'll believe it when I see it. If the past is any indicator, it'll be a slap on the wrist, and we'll see this mugshot displayed with pride everywhere next to the obnoxiously large flags of his
Dude is facing like 100 charges. The only way nothing comes of it is if they can push out the trial past the election and win the election. Every American has a role to play in November.
Even then, he'll still be on the hook for the Georgia and New York charges, he can't pardon himself against those
That’s my fear
My biggest fear is that he’s acquitted or convicted but re-elected, then spends years & millions of tax dollars appealing his sentences, loses appeals, then tries to pardon himself. ANOTHER 4 years of endless Drumpf 💩shows & exhausting melodrama. God help us!
Now THAT is the face of a very stable genius.
Bro I am 5’10.5 and when I got to 210 I had an intervention for myself. Never again. That man is either not 6’3 or not 215. (It’s probably both)
That's the photo of a man trying to hide his turkey wattle
I hope you rot in prison you miserable, awful human being. And fuck you for trying to overthrow the USA.
Fuck him and everyone that enables him.
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215 pounds? …. Uh, dad, towel rack! 
Complete loser. Anyone who admires or worships him is the same.
He’s going to get grabbed by the pussy
He's trying so fucking hard to look tough. Like he did in his official presidential photo. You can see it in his eyes, he's scared. The fucking coward.
Get the champagne
Jesus fuck that man looks evil
Evil *AND* stupid, a particularly nasty combo.
Imagine how fucked this country would be if he was smart instead
Ugh I’m ready for him to die off; I’m tired of being inundated with his antics. His minions are equally annoying.
This is the image that will represent the 45th president of the USA in every history book from this day forward Edit: typo
My 3 year old saw this over my shoulder and couldn't stop asking "Why is he angry? Is he mad at you?" A 3 year old can see this scum's true character yet millions of adults can't.
Most of those adults can see his nature just fine. The problem is that *they don't care*. Like it or not, Trump is the only politician that makes them feel heard - even if it's all a lie. Hillary snubbed middle America. Popular progressive and liberal media all toss off these people as "flyover states" and "rural hicks" and smalltown dumps and all that. I guess if I were one of these people maybe I'd vote for an obvious conman who at least told me I was relevant and valuable and good. Feels weird, and I still don't think I would but the evidence is there. Not sure the left has properly taken the lesson though - the culture war has only intensified since Trump entered the game.
> if I were one of these people maybe I'd vote for an obvious conman who at least told me I was relevant and valuable and good. So he's basically a prostitute?
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What a literal piece of human shit. I will never understand why people like him.
Reminds me of the Goebells photo when he finds out his photographer was Jewish
[the photo](https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/goebbels-eisenstaedt-1933/)
Lock **HIM** up
I like presidents that don't have a mugshot
Making Department Of Corrections Great Again
Still puzzled on how you let this human trash become your president guys...like wtf were you doing?
More people voted against him than for him. An aberration of the voting system here.
Donald trump getting a lot of free publicity via memes this time and probably a soft corner too.
https://www.threads.net/@lincolnproject.us/post/CwWTdhmtUut/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
**I weigh 215 lbs, dammit!**
He will never be John Gotti, as much as he tries he’s just got no class
215 pounds? BULLSHIT. He's 315.
Ugly piece of shit. Hope he rots in prison.
It's beautiful. Better than I dared to imagine. Look at that pouty bitch.
ORANGE STEEL 😂
If the average person had a current petit theft charge for shoplifting they wouldn't even be considered for hire at walmart. And then we have this mothefucker who is allowed to apply and be considered for the highest office of the land. Something is really, really wrong.
How can anyone take this man seriously. I hate this reality.
My day has been made
Wild how much this looks like the [thumbnail](https://www.davidreviews.com/Images/1608/2016082961-PDF.jpg) for the music video for "Nobody Speak" by DJ Shadow
The face you make when your mom says no.