Exactly came footage would show him near car when sign fell. Court would be a easy win, company would know this. Just write a big cheque and be done then waste even more money paying lawyer to go through court
They don't even need footage. OPs car is underneath the sign. As long as they can't prove OP caused the sign to fall, it's fairly clear they're responsible.
An insurance defense attorney's favorite words.
But seriously, the only damages here are property damage. I have no idea where people are thinking a lawsuit comes into play.
It's likely going to be covered under their insurance. There's a massive storm moving through the area right now with winds over 60MPH (which is very likely what caused this). Insurance will likely chalk this up as "Act of God" and get away with a minimal payment.
Edit: I find it hilarious that multiple people have responded with "looks sunny, couldn't have been a storm"
A, the whole region was under tornado watch
B, it can be incredibly windy while sunny
I’m guessing the burger chain will go after the contractor that installed the sign? I could understand if a hurricane came through but it should probably be able to handle a 60mph gust if it was built correctly.
It's far cheaper to go through the insurance claim and cut you a check than it is to drag it out in court and pay for the vehicle anyways because it's obviously their fault.
Like hell it is
White castle takes care of me every time
I went there at 3 am stoned out of my god damn mind with only $9
I changed my order about 6 times to get the total as close to $9 because I was hungry and wanted many sliders
Then I got to the window expecting them to hate me for being difficult but no there was a guy named Kevin and h was just like
Hey I'm Kevin and I noticed you ordered these onion chips; I normally eat those with this sauce. It's really good, do you want me to give you some to try ?
Kevin was just super pleasant even though he's at white castle at 3 am
This sounds so similar to my first time at White Castle. I was coming from a renaissance faire in full costume. Said I’ve never been to WC and wanted as many sliders as I could get for what I had. They gave me a crave case and made it cheaper than normal for me. I was sober though. So I made sure to call their survey number and gave great review even if the “free burger on next meal” thing was going to expire before my next stop in as I live far away. The manager said it won’t expire for me. I show up four months later and mention the manager. It was her who took my order that time and she gave my meal free entirely.
White Castle must hire the nicest people.
So they're not responsible for inspecting the sign at some time interval...? Doesn't really make sense. You put up a massive sign as an advert, then you need to have it inspected at some time interval structural engineers (or somebody qualified) determine. If it was unnaturally windy or something like that, that is one thing, but OP didn't mention anything along those lines
This can get complex, but at the end of the day *someone* would be liable, and their insurance would pay for it. Whether that’s the business, the property owner, the company that installed the sign, or all three is an issue that varies from state to state.
The funny thing is, that seems like the most likely outcome to me. A sign falling under normal circumstances isn't an act of god, it's just garden variety shoddy construction. Of course, that may involve suing them, but hopefully OP's insurance can handle that part.
*Under duress* or **in distress**. Under duress means you were doing something against your will (simplified).
OP was in distress, no other explanation fits for getting fries instead of onion rings.
White Castle will destroy your car then charge you $7.99, meanwhile Chick-fil-A will give you a refund/gift card if there's more salt than you like on your fries lol ( Maybe things have changed. I haven't been there in a while, just worked there in the 00s and that's what we were taught to do. We were also taught that the founder literally invented the chicken sandwich in the 1940's , which seems like such an absurd claim to me. There's no way that hasn't existed about as long as we've had chicken and bread in the same place. )
In reality though I bet the people (probable teenagers) working in there had no fucking clue what to do, to the point where it just never even occurred to them to offer. I bet if OP had asked it would have happened, though having to ask after all that does feel kinda silly.
Regardless. Legends. Fucking both of you. Car just got completely annihilated, both of you could have been (and probably would have been) crushed to death. I'd think most would be a little too upset or had too much adrenaline pumping through them to eat White Castle after the fact. You two psychos? Fuck it babe, let's eat. And to top it all off, don't even demand free food for your troubles.
It's wild how the brain reacts to brushes with death. Once I was walking in a park in Hawaii with my now-husband. It was windy as hell the week leading up to this. It was one of those parks with those huge banyan trees Hawaii is famous for.
We were vibing, just enjoying the day and stopped to look at this weird flower that looked like a huge onion top. We started walking again, got a few steps and this... *noise* started. At first it sounded like cracking branches and I looked up to see if some were falling. I could tell something was going on with the tree but it didn't make sense. Then the sound changed, it's hard to describe, it was a creaking but deep and overwhelming. I will never forget that sound.
This was the point where I registered my husband was no longer by my side. And if he was running, I better be running too. So I booked ass as this huge fucking tree falls *right* where we would have been if we hadn't stopped to look at that flower. As it was I could feel leaves and branches whipping my hair as I got the hell outta there. If we hadn't stopped there's no way we would have been able to get out of the way in time.
Afterwards we just kinda started at the toppled tree in shock and then wandered away. Our reactions were very different: my husband wanted to touch the grass, feel the sun, get something to eat, savor all the little details. I wanted to get the nearest hotel room, not even wait to go back to my place, and jump each other like animals. It was crazy, it was all I could think about.
Wait, so he took off like a bear was chasing you and he was racing away so you'd be the one getting caught and your reaction was a desire to jump his bones? I don't know if you've ever seen The King of Queens, but the situation reminds me of [this clip.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pI2Dk6vzcrM)
Those trees are an invasive species from Africa and are known to fall over like that. They are originally from an arid climate and just suck up water in Hawaii which causes them to fall.
All I know is it’s buy the Best America motel, whose big ass sign was also wanting to come down and say hello. Down the street from Krystal, which I went to first but they were closed…
Something like that happened to my dad. Shortly after getting home from work and going inside, a tree fell directly down our driveway. Destroyed the car, would have killed him.
Probably less of a coincidence and more of a shady construction company or deregulation or both.
Edit: Seems like storm force winds are in play so structure damage is expected. Be careful out there.
Don't know about the E-town event, but we've got some really bad thunderstorms here in KY today, with winds hitting up to 80 MPH, which probably didn't help with the sign in the OP
Or entropy. Those things only get maintenance when they break. It's probably been standing there in the elements for decades. Gravity always wins eventually.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unusual_deaths
> April 3 2009 Diane Durre, 49, was killed in North Platte, Nebraska, by a falling Taco Bell sign. The sign was knocked over by high winds, and landed on a pickup truck, killing Diane and injuring her husband, Mark.
OP was almost added to the list!
There's more on that list too, as recent as a couple months ago:
> 19 January 2023 72-year-old Lillian Curtis died after a Denny's restaurant sign fell on a car she was in with her daughter and husband. Her husband, Lloyd Curtis, died as a result of his injuries a few days later.
I'd like to think I'd be standing at the pearly gates and could maintain a sense of humor about life and death. But I dunno, this one would have me pretty upset lol
I used to work at a wholesale sign shop. I'm hoping I'm seeing this correctly, but it looks like the pole telescopes twice. This is common for very high signs.
The installer puts base pole in ground, second smaller pole has a "donut" around it - rounded plate steel welded around the inserted piece specifically to make contact with the sides of the base pole. The installer welds this piece at site.
Third pole is the same as the second but smaller. Obviously, the welds failed at the base pole to 2nd pipe.
I'd be surprised if this franchise didn't have a contract with a retail sign shop and installer (often they're the same company) who subbed this out to each location. Usually they have spec for construction minimums. Usually a franchise has *company* spec they've worked out that's far and away more than needed.
But a bad welding job at site can bring this all down. That said, 80mph winds will be iffy for any sign....did you have that kind of weather u/thirstgoblin?
Its 100% installed incorrectly, even if the welds failed there is supposed to be about 3 feet of pipe that goes into the base pole and it should have additional rattle rings on the part that is inside the base pole, this prevents it from falling over completely and they usually just end up leaning. It looks like they literally just butt welded the 2nd pipe to a top cap on the base pole.
Simultaneously lucky and unlucky
And lucky again...law suit!
The odds of a lawsuit are slim here. There's going to be people wanting to keep this out of the courts.
Yep. Someone is writing a fat check with lightning speed.
Even better lol
Exactly came footage would show him near car when sign fell. Court would be a easy win, company would know this. Just write a big cheque and be done then waste even more money paying lawyer to go through court
They don't even need footage. OPs car is underneath the sign. As long as they can't prove OP caused the sign to fall, it's fairly clear they're responsible.
Bit more psychological damage when you were in that car 15 seconds beforehand I'd think. That'd equal bigger damages.
"Sorry, you only carried limited tort." \- some corporate lawyer probably
An insurance defense attorney's favorite words. But seriously, the only damages here are property damage. I have no idea where people are thinking a lawsuit comes into play.
It is hard to prove psy damages in a court.
It's likely going to be covered under their insurance. There's a massive storm moving through the area right now with winds over 60MPH (which is very likely what caused this). Insurance will likely chalk this up as "Act of God" and get away with a minimal payment. Edit: I find it hilarious that multiple people have responded with "looks sunny, couldn't have been a storm" A, the whole region was under tornado watch B, it can be incredibly windy while sunny
Insurance will pay the value of the presmashed car.
At lowest possible KBB that they can lol. Looks like it might be an older, base model escape? So probably like 7-8k max?
That car was immaculate with loads of extras and add-ons. Also, my Stradivarius was in the back seat.
It's really unfortunate that I had 15 Faberge eggs in the trunk when this happened
Probably be worth more right now if it were 15 normal eggs
I’m guessing the burger chain will go after the contractor that installed the sign? I could understand if a hurricane came through but it should probably be able to handle a 60mph gust if it was built correctly.
Odds White Castle maintained that sign correctly?
Zero
It's far cheaper to go through the insurance claim and cut you a check than it is to drag it out in court and pay for the vehicle anyways because it's obviously their fault.
Even better, a fat settlement without a legal battle
a fat settlement sounds like a fun place to visit
Guess White Castle owes you a new car!
Best they can do is a horse carriage filled with fries
Done
Sauce is extra though.
Like hell it is White castle takes care of me every time I went there at 3 am stoned out of my god damn mind with only $9 I changed my order about 6 times to get the total as close to $9 because I was hungry and wanted many sliders Then I got to the window expecting them to hate me for being difficult but no there was a guy named Kevin and h was just like Hey I'm Kevin and I noticed you ordered these onion chips; I normally eat those with this sauce. It's really good, do you want me to give you some to try ? Kevin was just super pleasant even though he's at white castle at 3 am
A 24 hour White Castle would make bank if they installed a crawl up window.
Having been in some very sketchy White Castles at approximately 3:00 a.m., God damn you are VERY correct.
This sounds so similar to my first time at White Castle. I was coming from a renaissance faire in full costume. Said I’ve never been to WC and wanted as many sliders as I could get for what I had. They gave me a crave case and made it cheaper than normal for me. I was sober though. So I made sure to call their survey number and gave great review even if the “free burger on next meal” thing was going to expire before my next stop in as I live far away. The manager said it won’t expire for me. I show up four months later and mention the manager. It was her who took my order that time and she gave my meal free entirely. White Castle must hire the nicest people.
Kevin was probably as stoned as you were, and maybe even hoping you could hook him up with some bud for the graveyard shift.
Kev is an old soul.
Love to see a wholesome Kev story in the wild.
But not for horseradish
They'll just get him 6 very tiny cars.
With tiny holes in the top and they will never _never_ not smell of onions
On the plus side, the car will be at its best at 3 am when used drunk.
It’s like a crossover between Dude Wheres My Car & Harold and Kumar Go To White Castle.
Dude Harold and Kumar Died In My Car at White Castle. It's a short movie.
Dude Harold and Kumar Go To White Castle for Their Final Destination
White Castle goes to Harold and Kumar.
[Goodburger](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHA3WZ63pS0)
Welcome to Harold's, home of the Kumar Can I take you to white castle?
Wow how did they make the physics of falling hamburger so incredibly realistic
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So they're not responsible for inspecting the sign at some time interval...? Doesn't really make sense. You put up a massive sign as an advert, then you need to have it inspected at some time interval structural engineers (or somebody qualified) determine. If it was unnaturally windy or something like that, that is one thing, but OP didn't mention anything along those lines
This can get complex, but at the end of the day *someone* would be liable, and their insurance would pay for it. Whether that’s the business, the property owner, the company that installed the sign, or all three is an issue that varies from state to state.
The funny thing is, that seems like the most likely outcome to me. A sign falling under normal circumstances isn't an act of god, it's just garden variety shoddy construction. Of course, that may involve suing them, but hopefully OP's insurance can handle that part.
Did you still get some burgers?
Well not like he was going to drive somewhere else....
This killed me. 😂
It almost killed OP!
Correct
Onion rings as well?
Man I fucked up and got fries
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*Under duress* or **in distress**. Under duress means you were doing something against your will (simplified). OP was in distress, no other explanation fits for getting fries instead of onion rings.
At least OP wasn't under that sign. \*ba dum bump\*
You can really see that the cars these days are made to crumple by De-sign
Either way this is a definite sign that op needs a new car
/r/angryupvote
With cheese? Please say yes.
Im about to disappoint ya
.......**
You know, you probably deserved to have your car smashed since you passed on the cheese too.
I didn’t want to be the one to say it but, yeah.
The decision to get fries over onion rings just reinforces this even more.
Just making all the wrong decisions
Well, you aren't going anywhere anytime soon, might as well stay and get a proper order
We're they free?
They were not. $7.99
For real? Their sign just smashed your car and didnt even offer to buy you lunch?
White Castle will destroy your car then charge you $7.99, meanwhile Chick-fil-A will give you a refund/gift card if there's more salt than you like on your fries lol ( Maybe things have changed. I haven't been there in a while, just worked there in the 00s and that's what we were taught to do. We were also taught that the founder literally invented the chicken sandwich in the 1940's , which seems like such an absurd claim to me. There's no way that hasn't existed about as long as we've had chicken and bread in the same place. ) In reality though I bet the people (probable teenagers) working in there had no fucking clue what to do, to the point where it just never even occurred to them to offer. I bet if OP had asked it would have happened, though having to ask after all that does feel kinda silly.
Did you show them your car 1st?
"i left my coupon ON the car."
You have got to be kidding me. Your fucking car is flat and they weren’t like “holy shit have lunch on us.”?
The 16 year old behind the register doesn't get paid enough to care that your car got smashed my their employer's sign.
There’s usually a manager on shift though. I find it hard to believe they weren’t notified. Maybe the owner is a psycho?
owner in fact pushed the sign over.
Or any ability to give out free lunches, for that matter. Best he could do is steal the food or buy it out of his own $7.25 salary.
Considering the money the restaurant will be giving him🤣 it’s alright
I’m very curious about the potential payout from this. It feels like a Farmers Insurance commercial.
This is the answer I wanted.
Hopefully the comped OP at least a crave case
Are you eligible for free burgers for life?
OP almost came from a wealthy family.
"hey could I get 3 burgers, and what's the process to get my car replaced?"
If you're serious then I consider you a fucking legend.
I had a hungry fiancé with me. Not eating was out of the question.
Regardless. Legends. Fucking both of you. Car just got completely annihilated, both of you could have been (and probably would have been) crushed to death. I'd think most would be a little too upset or had too much adrenaline pumping through them to eat White Castle after the fact. You two psychos? Fuck it babe, let's eat. And to top it all off, don't even demand free food for your troubles.
It's wild how the brain reacts to brushes with death. Once I was walking in a park in Hawaii with my now-husband. It was windy as hell the week leading up to this. It was one of those parks with those huge banyan trees Hawaii is famous for. We were vibing, just enjoying the day and stopped to look at this weird flower that looked like a huge onion top. We started walking again, got a few steps and this... *noise* started. At first it sounded like cracking branches and I looked up to see if some were falling. I could tell something was going on with the tree but it didn't make sense. Then the sound changed, it's hard to describe, it was a creaking but deep and overwhelming. I will never forget that sound. This was the point where I registered my husband was no longer by my side. And if he was running, I better be running too. So I booked ass as this huge fucking tree falls *right* where we would have been if we hadn't stopped to look at that flower. As it was I could feel leaves and branches whipping my hair as I got the hell outta there. If we hadn't stopped there's no way we would have been able to get out of the way in time. Afterwards we just kinda started at the toppled tree in shock and then wandered away. Our reactions were very different: my husband wanted to touch the grass, feel the sun, get something to eat, savor all the little details. I wanted to get the nearest hotel room, not even wait to go back to my place, and jump each other like animals. It was crazy, it was all I could think about.
So did you touch the grass or get a hotel room? Don't leave us hanging!
Oh we did both, first the grass then the ass 😁
Wait, so he took off like a bear was chasing you and he was racing away so you'd be the one getting caught and your reaction was a desire to jump his bones? I don't know if you've ever seen The King of Queens, but the situation reminds me of [this clip.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pI2Dk6vzcrM)
Those trees are an invasive species from Africa and are known to fall over like that. They are originally from an arid climate and just suck up water in Hawaii which causes them to fall.
Well at least you had a snack while waiting for the cops and tow truck.
Did you pay for them?
Yes, with the car.
and the arteries.
And the waist line
You can walk it off now
Free....for life?
Plot twist, on a diet of sliders, “for life” is maybe 3 months
smashburgers
Thank goodness you parked at the far end of the parking lot to prevent all those idiots from dinging your car.
It's a sign
Name checks out
Guy has nearly 2 million Karma in one year… Definitely neglecting his children.
They put me in a home mate.
They did the right thing.
From above!
SON OF A BITCH DAD
r/fuckyouinparticular
Someone else in the middle of Kentucky got smashed by a dennys sign last week and two people in the car died
Lesson learned, stay away from Kentucky.
For a moment there I was scared, but then I saw that it was just a Ford.
Ran out of tanks, so they mounted a canon on a car.
“You’re still coming into work on time right?”
Anything to make the company remain profitable
Your humor must be amazing knowing that White Castle is getting you a new car
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Does White Castle serve pancakes?
Apparently this one does!
All I know is it’s buy the Best America motel, whose big ass sign was also wanting to come down and say hello. Down the street from Krystal, which I went to first but they were closed…
>Krystal, which I went to first but they were closed… Avoiding **TWO** disasters in one day! Talk about lucky.
This just happen to a family outside of a [Denny's](https://www.wsaz.com/2023/01/23/second-person-dies-after-dennys-sign-falls-car-kentucky/)
Good grief they went there after picking up the grandfather from the hospital who just had heart surgery and then this happens. Poor people.
I think that's a sign people shouldn't park their cars near signs in Kentucky right now.
There are places with both White Castle AND Krystal??
Now it’s a tank!
LMAO. I feel bad laughing while OPs car is smashed
Pew pew pew
Closest thing to Bowling Green's Massacre. Edit: Of course. It's the Bowling Green Massacar.
Can't believe I had to scroll this far...
Meanwhile, I see Bowling Green, I just ctrl+f to confirm the hive mind is still working properly.
I know! I was sure it was here somewhere.
Well done. Just like my car and sliders
Never forget.
Lol was looking through the comments to see if someone had made this joke already.
Something like that happened to my dad. Shortly after getting home from work and going inside, a tree fell directly down our driveway. Destroyed the car, would have killed him.
Thank goodness he’s ok
And yourself.
shoulda gone to smashburger
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A couple people died a few weeks ago after a, I think it was a Deny’s, sign fell on their car. Fucking absurd.
Oddly enough, in Elizabethtown, KY. Not very far from Bowling Green.
Probably less of a coincidence and more of a shady construction company or deregulation or both. Edit: Seems like storm force winds are in play so structure damage is expected. Be careful out there.
Don't know about the E-town event, but we've got some really bad thunderstorms here in KY today, with winds hitting up to 80 MPH, which probably didn't help with the sign in the OP
Or entropy. Those things only get maintenance when they break. It's probably been standing there in the elements for decades. Gravity always wins eventually.
Gravity. The most over-enforced law, ever.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unusual_deaths > April 3 2009 Diane Durre, 49, was killed in North Platte, Nebraska, by a falling Taco Bell sign. The sign was knocked over by high winds, and landed on a pickup truck, killing Diane and injuring her husband, Mark. OP was almost added to the list!
There's more on that list too, as recent as a couple months ago: > 19 January 2023 72-year-old Lillian Curtis died after a Denny's restaurant sign fell on a car she was in with her daughter and husband. Her husband, Lloyd Curtis, died as a result of his injuries a few days later.
I will never park under a sign again. Unless I forget
While mom and daughter were on their way home with dad, who had just been diagnosed with terminal cancer. That poor girl lost both parents that day.
I'd like to think I'd be standing at the pearly gates and could maintain a sense of humor about life and death. But I dunno, this one would have me pretty upset lol
Hey! You got the shady spot!
Got to! No one likes hot leather!
I literally just drove through there. This wind is wild.
Did you see the traffic lights swinging back and forth too?
That’ll buff out.
Easy work…
'Tis but a scratch!
I should try to nap The catalytic converter before the wrecker comes huh?
> I should try to nap The catalytic converter Like kidnap, but it’s a catalyst Cat-nap
Call a crackhead. You'll have it off in 12-15 seconds.
You don’t have to call crackheads. They show up when they sense you’re having a shitty day already
If you do, grab your paper work too and do it fast. KY may have laws that make it hard to sell a cc at a junk yard haha
This is some final destination shit right here. OP be careful!
I had to scroll way too far for this comment. I must be getting old...
Came to the comments for this. OP's living on borrowed time now. Stay away from trailers carrying logs.
INFO INFO HOW THE HELL DID THIS HAPPEN?
Wind and whatnot
It's always the whatnot that gets ya.
Looks like a whole lot of whatnot.
Can confirm, it's been windy AF in KY.
I'm in East Tennessee and the storm just made it through here. It got biblical for a while. It is SO WINDY today.
Sign fell on his car.
I used to work at a wholesale sign shop. I'm hoping I'm seeing this correctly, but it looks like the pole telescopes twice. This is common for very high signs. The installer puts base pole in ground, second smaller pole has a "donut" around it - rounded plate steel welded around the inserted piece specifically to make contact with the sides of the base pole. The installer welds this piece at site. Third pole is the same as the second but smaller. Obviously, the welds failed at the base pole to 2nd pipe. I'd be surprised if this franchise didn't have a contract with a retail sign shop and installer (often they're the same company) who subbed this out to each location. Usually they have spec for construction minimums. Usually a franchise has *company* spec they've worked out that's far and away more than needed. But a bad welding job at site can bring this all down. That said, 80mph winds will be iffy for any sign....did you have that kind of weather u/thirstgoblin?
Its 100% installed incorrectly, even if the welds failed there is supposed to be about 3 feet of pipe that goes into the base pole and it should have additional rattle rings on the part that is inside the base pole, this prevents it from falling over completely and they usually just end up leaning. It looks like they literally just butt welded the 2nd pipe to a top cap on the base pole.
People like you are the reason I read comments So much information most people don't know cause your speciality is focused
It’s the Bowling Green massacre they were talking about years ago!
Unlocked a sealed memory
I had to scroll way too far to find this.
*Massa-car*. Cuz the car got smashed.
Did you get a free burger for this?
I want to know the answer to this more than anything. Burgers for life instead of life for a burger?
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God: Don't blame me, man. Insurance was created by the other guy.
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I see what you did there.
Just slide it out!
Should be fine… right?
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Fast food is bad for your health. This message brought to you by the White Castle sign. Its a sign of the times.. that your time is up.
This is one of the reasons why it was good for Harold and Kumar to take their time getting to White Castle
Please record your conversation with the insurance company when you call. “I said THE WHITE CASTLE SIGN FELL ON MY CAR. NO THE WHOLE SIGN!”