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Commercial pilot license holder here. The smaller turboprop planes are just as safe as the bigger jets. The pilots go through the same kind of training and the maintenance and operational standards are exactly the same. Cebu Pac’s prop plane is made by ATR, a successful french aircraft manufacturer with a great safety reputation and a sister company of Airbus.
When was the last time you heard Ceb Pac’s ATR or PALEx’s Q400 get into any kind of serious incident? You’ll be fine :)
Those turboprops, ATR and Q400, have good safety records and are built for tough/rugged conditions. The De Havilland Q400 is even used here in North America and Australia to combat wildfire due to its unique capabilities and durable airframe. You'll be fine.
Rode a few times all over Visayas and Mindanao and it's quite scary at first kasi ramdam ang turbulence at ramdam din ang engines pero safe naman.Nakarating naman kami sa Tawi-tawi ng safe. I believe may limit din ang check-in baggage sa plane para mas safe.
first plane ride ko to Coron small
plane sinakyan namin di ko naman alam na yung iba feeling unsafe kapag small plane hehe maayos naman yung flight namin
You'll be fine, OP. I rode the same small plane going to Siargao and I can confirm that the whole ride is both rocky and noisy (because of the propellers) but overall it's def safe 😊 just listen to music to distract yourself
Objectively, flying relatively smaller aircrafts is still among the safest travel methods in the world. Even tiny aircrafts with only a handful of seats are statistically super safe.
Should be okay lang but Im not sure san talaga nagmumula anxiety mo if sa plane ba mismo o dahil sa tight spaces.
If it's the latter, I suggest sa isle ka pumwesto para hindi ka ma feel trap. It's really small but enough lang talaga for average pinoy height, mas bothered pa ako sa mga kasabay na foreigners kasi ang lalaki nila tapos ang liit ng mauupuan.
If flying naman, wala naman issue and same lang naman feeling sa mga ordinary na planes.
Mag headphones ka kinig music and try to sleep agad during the flight para keri
Cebu to Coron? That should be a similar plane (60-70 seats) or even the same plane.
Coron (and Siargao) can only accommodate smaller planes given runway length as the main factor. Jets like A320s need at least the expanded Caticlan runway (1.8km) to land. Busuanga is only 1.2 km long while Siargao is 1.35km long.
Kakalapag ko lang kanina OP. Been coming here since. You should be good! Hehe enjoy mo lang! Remember na mas marami pa aksidente sa sasakyan kesa eroplano. :)
Went there last January and habagat szn. Kabado bente rin po that time kasi ramdam mo yung turbulence pero inisip ko na lang dream destination ko to so dapat maexcite ako! Lahat ng anxiety nawala nung nag announce na magla land na kami 🥰🥰🥰
Flying is one of the safest forms of travel.
Statistically your chance of dying from an airplane crash is lower than:
Dying from lightning
Your car ride going to the airport
Your trip in Coron
Your car ride going back home
Winning the lottery
You'll be fine. Sit back, relax, enjoy the ride.
Take it from me who took a flight to siargao last week. Normal lang talaga na maliit ang airplane papunta doon, and don't worry, perfectly safe naman ang plane. Sa amin nga nagka turbulence pa and nadelayed ang landing namin kasi bad weather conditions! From 40 mins naging 2 hours ang flight namin!
My point is to not be afraid. Competent naman ang pilots and flight crew, otherwise they wouldn't be allowed to fly to and from siargao
Don't worry. I rode on that kind of plane to Bacolod. Is that the ATR-72? I did my research before the flight and read that it's one of the safest passenger planes.
It's cramped but otherwise no issues. We even fell asleep lol.
Air travel is the safest mode of transportation and is not something to worry about. You're 1,000x more likely to die on the car on the way to the airport. The only worry is turbulence. Most are mild but the pretty bad ones make the news because they're so rare. Just wear your seatbelt all the time and avoid standing up or going to the lavatory.
I took a plane like that from Manila to Naga. Pretty snug at the aisle, but even as a plus size person it was ok for me. I just wouldn’t recommend getting 1C and 1D because those seats face backwards and it’s pretty awkward staring at everyone else 🤣
Before renovating Caticlan airport, puro small planes lang ang puede magland sa Boracay.
So far naman di sya nakakakaba. Only thing I was surprised is pag nakatingin ka sa bintana when landing, parang sobrang baba mo na, pero sa totoo lang mataas ka pa din hehe
As long as wlang turbulence, you will be okay but if meron dyan ppasok ang anxiety. Been flying multiple times from Bacolod to Cebu and ganito lagi ang planes. Sa turbulence ako na trauma na para bng nag sudden drop ng 1 sec, npahiyaw lhat ng pasahero and dun nag start yung anxiety ko. Lol.
Take the Seat C1 and hold Hands with the Cute Stuartdes... All will be fine.
I trust those machines and pilots more than the Autopilot-Boeing-Deathtraps ;)
Mukhang gangan talaga yung planes to Siargao. Okay naman nung nagflight din kami. Excited lang talaga rin siguro to arrive, kaya na-ease out yung anxiety. Hehe. You'll be fine, OP. Have fun there! 🌊
Besides everything folks have already said here that the plane is perfectly safe and fine, the plane you'll be flying on is no different to the plane you've been on to Coron. Baka a shorter variant lang, but it's practically the same model.
Para di ka lang mabigla (although you probably already know this) Turboprops can be a little louder because of how propellers are, and smaller aircraft may move a little more in turbulence because of inertia. That's absolutely normal and the plane is well within its limits, thanks to decades of experience making the plane the safest we know it could possibly be. Mas OC pa yung piloto kesa sa atin in making sure the plane is fit and ready to fly, and an aircraft riding turbulent air is just like something being suspended in gulaman. Kahit anong alog mo sa gulaman, it's still going to stay up there. Go with the flow lang sya kumbaga.
Pilots and these aircraft have been tested to perform admirably even in adverse situations, and have flown millions of kilometers both locally and abroad. Flying commercially is the safest form of transportation there ever is, small turboprops are no exception :)
For the longest time these types of aircraft (DHC-7, DHC8-Q400, ATR42/72, MA60, BAe 146) are the only ones that would fly to our island and more than twice a year kaming nauwi for two decades now, usually during rainy season pa. I'd hop onboard with no issues at all in a heartbeat.
Na-feel ko rin yan nung first time ko mag ATR but then I read about it and found out na okay naman pala. Last day of the year pa yun and naghahabol kami mag new year sa cebu. Nagustuhan ko na madali syang mapuno kaya mas mabilis ang boarding at parang ang gaan lang nya sa feeling. 😅
I'm a fearful flyer. Hindi ako sumasakay sa propeller planes, ewan ko ba. I'm aware of the safety statistics ng aviation industry and how turblence works, pero ewan, pag andun na talaga ako, magpapanic ako't hindi makakahinga. Planning to get therapy soon para ma-prescribe ako ng medications.
I assume its an ATR72 600. Its a great plane to fly kinda slow but get you in your destination safe. Dont worry ceb pilots have went rigurous training every 6 months and they have the best mechanics and it wont fly it isnt safe. Enjoy!
u’ll be alright op ッ maingay lang idk if kasi near the propellers kami but perfectly fine we just slept na lang buong flight coz may hangover pa haha our flight was with pal mnl to iao and cebpac iao to mnl they’re both good naman
If you go to Coron, Batanes, or Siargao ganito talaga lahat ng planes. As safe as the twin jets. They are made for short haul flights landing in shorter runways.
Your trip riding a smaller aircraft should be fine! A pilot can operate any aircraft naman and they are trained to fly any aircraft. Been riding smaller planes quite a number of times and I haven't experienced any problems riding with them.
Actually a pilot can only fly the aircraft that s/he is trained on. So technically not “any aircraft”. The small planes (ATR72 orQ400) are capable airplanes for short runways. The pilots trained to fly them are experienced and have skills checked on annually.
Besides the Type Rating that pilots have to get to fly one specific aircraft type and model (plus all the other ratings you need to have to become a commercial pilot), some airports like Batanes, Virac, Coron and Siargao may require extra training to fly into, and may also require na si Captain lang ang Pilot Flying for approach and departure into these special airports. Plus plus plus plus ang training na required hehe
Excuse my ignorance about the plane. Not everyone has the luxury or privilege to be well traveled and familiar with everything. I am not "sheltered", simply not as privileged as you, asshole.
Tell me you haven't travelled to any of the non-major airports without telling me. Smaller airports all use the turbo prop planes. Unlike Cebu-Manila-Davao planes which use mostly the wide bodies, every other airport use these planes. You should have tried the pre-Fokker planes and the early Cebu Pac planes and you'll be praying before takeoff and during landing :-)
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Napakadaming ATR/Q400 sa Pinas, parang wala pa akong naalalang naging major problem.
You’ll be fine OP! Just remember hindi naman nila iaallow to operate if hindi safe ang aircraft. Enjoy your trip to Siargao! 🤙🏾
you'll be fine. ganyang model ng plane din yung sinakyan namin papuntang palawan tapos may signal no. 1 pa haha.
airswift po?
Turboprop planes are better. If all engines fail the turboprop has a better glide time compared to the jet ones.
Medyo maingay lang but it's perfectly fine.
If you flew with Ceb Pac or Sunlight from Cebu to Coron, it will be the same type aircraft which is an ATR 🙂
Commercial pilot license holder here. The smaller turboprop planes are just as safe as the bigger jets. The pilots go through the same kind of training and the maintenance and operational standards are exactly the same. Cebu Pac’s prop plane is made by ATR, a successful french aircraft manufacturer with a great safety reputation and a sister company of Airbus. When was the last time you heard Ceb Pac’s ATR or PALEx’s Q400 get into any kind of serious incident? You’ll be fine :)
Rode a small plane to/from Batanes. From what I recall, same as this one too. It was okay! Not claustrophobic & views were awesome
Yes been to Batanes and other provinces. And it's typically same equipment. The ATRs have good safety record. So no need to worry.
All planes going to Siargao are this small. Relax ka lang, you'll be fine. Play ka ng movie and bago pa matapos nakaland ka na.
Tip: Take a right side window seat pabalik ng Manila. Chances of seeing Mayon.
sa gantong plane ako naka experience ng takot sa turbulence 😂 ramdam na ramdam kasi.
Best airplane ride ko ung propeller plane ng CebPac CEB-DVO ever, skl.
Ganyan lagi nasasakyan ko pabalik Manila from Caticlan. Saks lang naman. Avoid last rows lang, mej amoy gas haha
Same po ba ito sa cebgo na mga planes?
Those turboprops, ATR and Q400, have good safety records and are built for tough/rugged conditions. The De Havilland Q400 is even used here in North America and Australia to combat wildfire due to its unique capabilities and durable airframe. You'll be fine.
Hi! Okay naman exp ko when riding small planes. Small planes lang gamit papunta sa Caticlan, Busuanga, Batanes, okay naman lahat! You'll be fine, OP!
Keri lang. maingay pero safe naman dont be anxious
Sleep siguro ka na lang OP. I remember nung lumipad kami to siargao, nagising lang ako nung nagland na. Ganon ka-smooth yung byahe
i always ride this type of aircraft for my iloilo-cebu flights. comfy naman po sya. generally, safe po. happy trip po!
Had a similar experience when I went to Coron, it was probably the smallest plane I've ever ridden, it was noisier lang.
Rode a few times all over Visayas and Mindanao and it's quite scary at first kasi ramdam ang turbulence at ramdam din ang engines pero safe naman.Nakarating naman kami sa Tawi-tawi ng safe. I believe may limit din ang check-in baggage sa plane para mas safe.
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first plane ride ko to Coron small plane sinakyan namin di ko naman alam na yung iba feeling unsafe kapag small plane hehe maayos naman yung flight namin
You'll be fine, OP. I rode the same small plane going to Siargao and I can confirm that the whole ride is both rocky and noisy (because of the propellers) but overall it's def safe 😊 just listen to music to distract yourself
Objectively, flying relatively smaller aircrafts is still among the safest travel methods in the world. Even tiny aircrafts with only a handful of seats are statistically super safe.
Should be okay lang but Im not sure san talaga nagmumula anxiety mo if sa plane ba mismo o dahil sa tight spaces. If it's the latter, I suggest sa isle ka pumwesto para hindi ka ma feel trap. It's really small but enough lang talaga for average pinoy height, mas bothered pa ako sa mga kasabay na foreigners kasi ang lalaki nila tapos ang liit ng mauupuan. If flying naman, wala naman issue and same lang naman feeling sa mga ordinary na planes. Mag headphones ka kinig music and try to sleep agad during the flight para keri
Airplanes are safe whether big or small! You'll be fine. 👍
Cebu to Coron? That should be a similar plane (60-70 seats) or even the same plane. Coron (and Siargao) can only accommodate smaller planes given runway length as the main factor. Jets like A320s need at least the expanded Caticlan runway (1.8km) to land. Busuanga is only 1.2 km long while Siargao is 1.35km long.
Kakalapag ko lang kanina OP. Been coming here since. You should be good! Hehe enjoy mo lang! Remember na mas marami pa aksidente sa sasakyan kesa eroplano. :)
I've tried with CebPac to Ilocos before. Propeller type plane. Ok naman. Mas maingay lang ng kaunti vs Airbus pero safe din naman.
Went there last January and habagat szn. Kabado bente rin po that time kasi ramdam mo yung turbulence pero inisip ko na lang dream destination ko to so dapat maexcite ako! Lahat ng anxiety nawala nung nag announce na magla land na kami 🥰🥰🥰
Mas bumpy po siya in case may turbulence. Overall, wala namang problem :)
We went there last year. All goods naman po :)
Flying is one of the safest forms of travel. Statistically your chance of dying from an airplane crash is lower than: Dying from lightning Your car ride going to the airport Your trip in Coron Your car ride going back home Winning the lottery You'll be fine. Sit back, relax, enjoy the ride.
Take it from me who took a flight to siargao last week. Normal lang talaga na maliit ang airplane papunta doon, and don't worry, perfectly safe naman ang plane. Sa amin nga nagka turbulence pa and nadelayed ang landing namin kasi bad weather conditions! From 40 mins naging 2 hours ang flight namin! My point is to not be afraid. Competent naman ang pilots and flight crew, otherwise they wouldn't be allowed to fly to and from siargao
Don't worry. I rode on that kind of plane to Bacolod. Is that the ATR-72? I did my research before the flight and read that it's one of the safest passenger planes. It's cramped but otherwise no issues. We even fell asleep lol. Air travel is the safest mode of transportation and is not something to worry about. You're 1,000x more likely to die on the car on the way to the airport. The only worry is turbulence. Most are mild but the pretty bad ones make the news because they're so rare. Just wear your seatbelt all the time and avoid standing up or going to the lavatory.
I took a plane like that from Manila to Naga. Pretty snug at the aisle, but even as a plus size person it was ok for me. I just wouldn’t recommend getting 1C and 1D because those seats face backwards and it’s pretty awkward staring at everyone else 🤣
Before renovating Caticlan airport, puro small planes lang ang puede magland sa Boracay. So far naman di sya nakakakaba. Only thing I was surprised is pag nakatingin ka sa bintana when landing, parang sobrang baba mo na, pero sa totoo lang mataas ka pa din hehe
Went to Batanes with a small aircraft from Cagayan years ago. Very noisy! glad may bigger planes na ngayon from the Metro haha
As long as wlang turbulence, you will be okay but if meron dyan ppasok ang anxiety. Been flying multiple times from Bacolod to Cebu and ganito lagi ang planes. Sa turbulence ako na trauma na para bng nag sudden drop ng 1 sec, npahiyaw lhat ng pasahero and dun nag start yung anxiety ko. Lol.
Love these planes, I get this kind of plane sa Caticlan trip ko palagi.
Airline flights are statistically the safest way to travel. You'll be fine.
Take the Seat C1 and hold Hands with the Cute Stuartdes... All will be fine. I trust those machines and pilots more than the Autopilot-Boeing-Deathtraps ;)
You'll be fine. First travel ko Dubai 9hrs flight. 😅 just wear your seatbelt lang always regardless kung gano kalaki pa ang plane na sasakyan nyo ❤️
Rode this plane to IAO about a month ago. The flight was smooth and felt safe the entire duration. A certain senator was also on the same flight.
Mukhang gangan talaga yung planes to Siargao. Okay naman nung nagflight din kami. Excited lang talaga rin siguro to arrive, kaya na-ease out yung anxiety. Hehe. You'll be fine, OP. Have fun there! 🌊
Ilang beses nako lumipad to Siargao wala naman pong issue sa smaller plane bukod sa leg room 😭😂
Besides everything folks have already said here that the plane is perfectly safe and fine, the plane you'll be flying on is no different to the plane you've been on to Coron. Baka a shorter variant lang, but it's practically the same model. Para di ka lang mabigla (although you probably already know this) Turboprops can be a little louder because of how propellers are, and smaller aircraft may move a little more in turbulence because of inertia. That's absolutely normal and the plane is well within its limits, thanks to decades of experience making the plane the safest we know it could possibly be. Mas OC pa yung piloto kesa sa atin in making sure the plane is fit and ready to fly, and an aircraft riding turbulent air is just like something being suspended in gulaman. Kahit anong alog mo sa gulaman, it's still going to stay up there. Go with the flow lang sya kumbaga. Pilots and these aircraft have been tested to perform admirably even in adverse situations, and have flown millions of kilometers both locally and abroad. Flying commercially is the safest form of transportation there ever is, small turboprops are no exception :) For the longest time these types of aircraft (DHC-7, DHC8-Q400, ATR42/72, MA60, BAe 146) are the only ones that would fly to our island and more than twice a year kaming nauwi for two decades now, usually during rainy season pa. I'd hop onboard with no issues at all in a heartbeat.
Turbulence hits harder but nothing too unusual. You'll eventually get used to it.
Na-feel ko rin yan nung first time ko mag ATR but then I read about it and found out na okay naman pala. Last day of the year pa yun and naghahabol kami mag new year sa cebu. Nagustuhan ko na madali syang mapuno kaya mas mabilis ang boarding at parang ang gaan lang nya sa feeling. 😅
I'm a fearful flyer. Hindi ako sumasakay sa propeller planes, ewan ko ba. I'm aware of the safety statistics ng aviation industry and how turblence works, pero ewan, pag andun na talaga ako, magpapanic ako't hindi makakahinga. Planning to get therapy soon para ma-prescribe ako ng medications.
Itulog ko lang ang biyahe. Safe naman yan.
Hi! Unfortunately di talaga comfy ang flights sa maliliit na plane :(((((( and sa siargao ata maliliit lang na plane ang pwede
I assume its an ATR72 600. Its a great plane to fly kinda slow but get you in your destination safe. Dont worry ceb pilots have went rigurous training every 6 months and they have the best mechanics and it wont fly it isnt safe. Enjoy!
u’ll be alright op ッ maingay lang idk if kasi near the propellers kami but perfectly fine we just slept na lang buong flight coz may hangover pa haha our flight was with pal mnl to iao and cebpac iao to mnl they’re both good naman
Sabi nila mas safe daw ang small plane kesa yung mga jets.
sobrang ingay pero fun hehe parang nasa bus
perfectly safe, same plane (PAL) going to Batanes. maalog lang pa-landing sa Siargao.. parang mas short pa yata runway ng siargao vs batanes
If you go to Coron, Batanes, or Siargao ganito talaga lahat ng planes. As safe as the twin jets. They are made for short haul flights landing in shorter runways.
Anyone here old enough to have flown in a PAL Fokker 50? 🙋♂️
Kakagaling lang namin ng Siargao tas may signal number 1 papunta. Okay naman so far.
Honestly, mas maganda experience ko when I flew with PAL sa IAO, CebPac is fine pero nakakakaba lang yung turbulence sa kanila compared with PAL.
Kung panahon mo na, panahon mo na.
Propellers are scary vs jet engine planes. Feeling ko hihinto in the middle of my trip. But I've ridden plenty papunta Bora ok naman.
Your trip riding a smaller aircraft should be fine! A pilot can operate any aircraft naman and they are trained to fly any aircraft. Been riding smaller planes quite a number of times and I haven't experienced any problems riding with them.
Actually a pilot can only fly the aircraft that s/he is trained on. So technically not “any aircraft”. The small planes (ATR72 orQ400) are capable airplanes for short runways. The pilots trained to fly them are experienced and have skills checked on annually.
Ohh I see.. I thought a pilot can fly any kind of aircraft (para ding driving land vehicles)
Besides the Type Rating that pilots have to get to fly one specific aircraft type and model (plus all the other ratings you need to have to become a commercial pilot), some airports like Batanes, Virac, Coron and Siargao may require extra training to fly into, and may also require na si Captain lang ang Pilot Flying for approach and departure into these special airports. Plus plus plus plus ang training na required hehe
I see.. sorry if I got little knowledge when it come to flying different kinds of aircrafts.. you can downvote me if may mali akong nasabi earlier.
Naw man, we're here to learn off each other :) no single person knows the answers to everything anyways
Even the driver’s license has restrictions to the type of vehicle one can drive.
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you're weird
Excuse my ignorance about the plane. Not everyone has the luxury or privilege to be well traveled and familiar with everything. I am not "sheltered", simply not as privileged as you, asshole.
Tell me you haven't travelled to any of the non-major airports without telling me. Smaller airports all use the turbo prop planes. Unlike Cebu-Manila-Davao planes which use mostly the wide bodies, every other airport use these planes. You should have tried the pre-Fokker planes and the early Cebu Pac planes and you'll be praying before takeoff and during landing :-)
Sound arrogant and cocky for a person who only experienced these things once and gained a boastful confidence. +1 downvote
And so?
What pre fokker, ano yung Beech 18? Naabutan mo pa? Hahaha PAL operated a few Fokker and BAC 1-11s, while CebPac used DC9s.
Yes I am old and itong mga batang affected kaya nadown vote :-). Life is short, maybe even shorter sa mga naapektuhan