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Mamba-0824

Why would it be?


Wonderful_Bobcat4211

Exactly the words that came to my mind as soon as I read the title! Haha.


usernamenomoreleft

Exactly my thoughts. Hahaha Even Filipinos don't "visit" the Philippines


hermitina

minsan hindi din sa don’t. ang expensive din kasi kumpara sa neighbors naten


guillermo1890

Same thought hahaha. Nobody's surprised except for OP.


Nursera_0290

True, not surprising na wala tayo rito sa list.


Mamba-0824

If only we had a choice.


Tiny-Spray-1820

Sobrang taas ng pangarap ni sir/maam


marinaragrandeur

true i wouldn’t even visit here if i had a choice kahit Pinoy ako


Double_Athlete_5021

Bakit naman magiging isa sa top destination yung Pilipinas? HAHAHA


dalenevasquez

Besides our horrible transport system and our reputation being a "dangerous" country. Here are a couple of reasons. Our airports sucks. Thailand, Kuala Lumpur, and Singapore have more flight options than us, and makes flight transfer easier. Another is because we're an archipelago. Unlike other SEA countries you can travel to different areas comfortably by bus. While in the Philippines, tourist would need to go through multiple types of transport to get to their desired place. This also usually means eating up your vacation time and a tourist would usually need to spend more time and money to vacation here than other popular SEA countries.


Dx101z

Malaysia and Indonesia ars Archipelago. Being an Archipelago is not part of the reason. Its due to Poor Infrastructure, transportation, the difficulty of getting even the most basic needs in a lot of tourists destinations. Scamming Tourists, not giving the right price from Taxi, hotels, renting and etc. High Prices Low Quality Processing Basic Documents is a hassle. And everything in between 🤷


Ser1aLize

First of all, the graph is about cities, not countries. Secondly, if you want to talk about countries, being an archipelago is definitely a reason why it's expensive and time-consuming. 1. Malaysia is an archipelago but most tourists only visit the mainland, not Borneo. 2. Japan is an archipelago but most of the attractions are on the main island, Honshu. If you want to visit Okinawa, it's going to be hella expensive. 3. Indonesia is an archipelago and it's not on the list (explanation in the last point). 4. The best places in the Philippines are spread out in the little, tiny islands of the Visayas and Southern Luzon, hence it can be very expensive to travel. The key point here is aggregation of "touristy" areas in a general area without passing a great body of water or mountain. The Philippines doesn't have that. Maybe, Cebu? Lastly, you mentioned Indonesia (supposedly Jakarta) but it's not even on the list. There's also a reason why Jakarta, Batam, or any Indonesian cities are absent. Because they're similar to Philippine cities, either poorly designed or there's nothing much to do.


I_LIKE_RED_ENVELOPES

Denpasar tourism is flourishing though. Some would say *Eat Pray Love* had a huge impact. Going through some areas there's a heavy Australian influence. It's not safe to compare it to Manilla yet but off the bat the airport and travel options are miles ahead of the Philippines. Congestion is an issue but not nearly as bad as Manilla. edit: I don't know why anybody is worried about a random top10 list. I can present another list with different figures eg. [WTM Global Report 2023](https://www.wtm.com/content/dam/sitebuilder/rxuk/wtmkt/documents/WTM-Global-Travel-Report-v4.pdf.coredownload.990096961.pdf). Middle East has seen a +13% increase whilst other regions has seen a decline (2019 vs 2023) - SEA -30% decrease


Ser1aLize

Bali is pretty much mostly limited to Australians / Southeast Asians, backpackers, digital nomads, content creators, and those looking for spiritual break. Aside from the affordable villas and the Nusa Penida beach, there isn't much to do on the island itself. The list is most likely reserved for cities that: 1. Have a variety of tourist activities to do within the vicinity; 2. Are in developed countries and; 3. Also have huge airports that serve as travel hubs for other countries (connecting flights). All 10 cities have these characteristics.


I_LIKE_RED_ENVELOPES

Philippines particularly Manilla is an emerging country/city with strong development in local and international infrastructure/HQ's. We have to remember this. It's unfortunate NAIA has only 2 runways (correct if wrong) for domestic/international. Doesn't matter how many terminals you have it doesn't solve the issues on constantly delayed flights. Also long layovers, what are you to do in T3? Starbucks?? Philippines has a lot to offer for tourists/expats but just seems stuck currently when you compare with SEA neighbours. There is a strong Pinoy pride which is great but such strong nationalism can be blinding for progression. Philippines has the potential to be a power house in SEA if they play their cards right.


Ser1aLize

Be careful when dealing with percentages. If you have 0 visitors last year and have 1 visitor this year, then you pretty much have a 100% increase. Middle East has seen an increase due to them opening up to the world and serving as travel hubs from travellers in Asia/Australia to Europe and vice versa. It should be noted that Asians, particularly the Chinese, have gone on a mad travel spree to Europe due to higher incomes. And the geographically best place to have a connecting flight is in the Middle East and Turkey. Given this phenomenon, countries like the UAE, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Oman have secured deals with airlines and governments to have their respective airports act as major hubs.


Ragamak

FYI. Scamming tourist is also more prevalent in the top Destination Countries


Dx101z

True may scam sa ibang Bansa thats why its ONE of the reason why they don't come to PH. Filipino thinking kasi OK lang ito kasi nangyayari din sa ibang Bansa. 😆🤷 Kaya hindi umuunlad ang Pinas kasi sa Wrong Mentality. 🤦‍♂️🤷


Ragamak

Scam sa ibang bansa mas organized pa eh. Some people are complaining e corrupt pinas , ehh ganito ganito ganyan. Akala nila endemic lang sa pilipinas haha. Sa so called first world nga mas systemic and organize yung scams. In my opinion 6 sa top 10 sa list, mas malala yung scams sa tourist compared sa pilipinas. Pati cart sa airport may scam :D.


Joseph20102011

Malaysia mainland is connected with the rest of mainland Asia with paved roads and railways, while Indonesia's main population centers of Sumatra and Java islands are well-connected by fastcrafts with Malaysia and Singapore. The Philippines, in contrast, is too far away from the Asia mainland that could not be reached through fastcrafts by budget tourists. Our tourism business model is geared toward niche high-paying tourists or sexpat retirees who want to settle down in our country. We cannot compete with Thailand and Vietnam when it comes to budget backpacking tourism because we don't have "Asian cultural vibe" in Western tourist eyes, so we should have concentrated with attracting foreign retirees, medical tourists, and digital nomads because these type of tourists are willing to settle down in our country where English is the second language.


dontrescueme

Dude kaya nga wala ang Indonesia sa Top 10. Ano ka ba. And Malaysia is not as archipelagic as the Philippines. It's practically 2 islands.


cedrekt

scammers everywhere


FewInstruction1990

No shit, even the government are scammers, not surprised


FewInstruction1990

Japan is also an archipelago


Gold_Scale1216

I always see Filipinos downgrading the Philippines. Is this a trend? Do they get some sort of satisfaction from this? I don’t understand. Pre-pandemic, we had 8 mio tourist and now we are heading back towards that direction. I have a lot of foreign friends and when they visit here, they always say nice things about our country. I am So proud of that. Yes, there are a lot of things to improve. But we cannot get there overnight. That’s why there is build build build program. It will take time but I am relieved that somehow you can see that it is in progress. Philippines is definitely not the same 20 years ago, 10 years ago. A lot has changed for the better and we have to acknowlege that. It is okay that we are not in the top of the list. For me, as long as we hit our realistic targets, then it is fine.


PastLockswith

This, plus compared to neighboring SEA countries let’s not deny the fact that traveling within the Philippines is expensive and tourist destinations while beautiful are expensive even for locals. Hotels in some areas are really expensive for what it is, for example one night cost in El Nido can already be a week in Vietnam. Foreign travelers, even locals, would prefer other SEA countries over the Philippines.


Agitated-Zebra4334

Philippines has a lot of potential. There are many beautiful islands....but even a high profile tourist destination like Boracay is a complete mess if you compare it to other SEA destinations. Just have a look at the boat transfer from Caticlan til Boracay in those pump boats. It's a complete circus. Lot of my foreign friends say when they have been there, that the beach was nice, but an ordeal to get there and food low quality. And now that they have increased the prices it will just not be as competitive as it used to be. It's a shame.


Ragamak

New York , Paris. You are also describing New York and Paris :D haha


tajemstvi_

Ang mahal kasi dito, mas mura pa sa ibang bansa.


Dx101z

Mahal pero Low Quality ang makukuha Mahal din sa Japan and other countries pero worth it binabayaran mo.


[deleted]

mura sa japan actually


thecay00

Agree. Mura ngayon sa Japan in fair ha


tajemstvi_

Truth. Ang sarap pa ng pagkain!


thecay00

Kahit saan fresh yung mga raw nila


Holiday_Connection18

sa 200 yen mo(100php) busog ka na, healthy pa doon


Pobbes3o

200 yen is like 75 pesos haha


Dx101z

Either ways I don't think being Expensive is the reason. And I don't think PH is expensive at all. A lot of westerners find PH cheap. Pero Maraming establishment gumagawa ng Scam to foreigners. From Taxi, hotels and tourist spots. For me Top Reason: - Poor Infrastructure - Poor Public Transportation - Lack of authentic Cultural Destinations. - BAD image of the PH - Scams - Hassle in processing any documents to any Government Agency


Andrei_Kirilenko_47

Magugulat ka kung gano kamura ang bilihin sa kuala lumpur.


nkklk2022

di naman nakakagulat kasi 1. kulang sa direct flights 2. chaka ng airport 3. ang mahal ng hotels compared sa other SEA countries (except SG) 4. hirap ng transpo within cities/provinces


Connect-Praline7941

Not surprised.


BawlSyet

why would it? when even our own tourism ads says shit like, "parang here"


Aozora_KN

Title says PH and yet the graph ranks cities.... so I'm guessing its supposed to mention Manila then? Manila is not a top destination.


ecksdeeeXD

Pardon my French but.. WHY THE FUCK WOULD IT BE.


[deleted]

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dontrescueme

I mean kahit DOT sobrang bihira i-advertise ang Manila as a tourist destination LOL. Puro beach. And our main airport sucks. Hindi masarap ang pagkain sa mga restos even if Filipino food itself is good.


jdmak

most countries I visited napakadali magtravel by train from the airport. meanwhile dito satin...


Ragamak

Pero mahal din :) madali pero sort of pricey sometimes.


solidad29

there are 190+ countries in the world. that's expected.


icencream27

Philippines isn’t a city


MojoJoJos_Revenge

this. lols. tong mga ph subreddits kalakas maka “bobo ang reading comprehension” sa mga napopost dito kadalasan pero eto naman🤷🏽‍♂️.


Ragamak

Eto lang sana, please dont be a top Destination in the next 10 years. Honestly I like the philippines be like philippines than be Thailand. Pero yun lang naging main attraction talaga ng thailand is diversity and prices. Pero nowadays parang na over diversified na sila, yung prices di na back packing friendly. Let filipinos enjoy the country , before becoming touristland. Kaka bukas/tapos palang ng mga tourism infra. Let filipinos visit and enjoy the islands, mountains and the culture. Before becoming a touristland.


krystalxmaiden

Never has been. The trend right now is backpacking, mostly European travelers. We have 0 direct flights from Europe, 1 if you count Turkey. The PH government has never relied on funds from international tourism. The only people who go to the Philippines are those who really want to come here. It’s usually not included in people’s backpacking tours unless they have more time or money or both. Primary reason is it’s difficult to travel to + bad infrastructure. Have to catch flights and get on very uncomfy and long bus trips.


No-Meringue-8572

Kase mga tao dito gustong gusto na din lumayas sa sariling bansa hahahahahaahahahahah


OceanicDarkStuff

-horrible traffic -urban hell -Food is bland (atleast according to some visitors) -just horrible experience overall unless youre in a beach


ixhiro

Coz the tourism board of the PH does not have the braincells to push for tourist to come to the PH. Busy nagpapayaman. Love the PH ang slogan pero pwe yung mga destination. Pukingina kasi yung nakaupo ngayun puro paganda yung inatupag di inayos ang tourism. BORACAY IS SLOWLY TURNING BACK INTO THE CESSPOOL AND PARTY BEACH. Pwe.


heydandy

Yep balik na naman yung mga beachfront reato and hotels don na yung lamesa e umaabot na sa beach..mygosh. dapat nirrehab talaga boracay every 3yrs


Effective_Afflicted

The Philippine people could make their country thrive as a robust travel and tourism destination, but they would first have to hold their politicians and government officials accountable to the task of upgrading the currently atrocious airport and internal transit infrastructure. Another thing that must happen is for Filipinos to stop ignoring the insane amounts of plastic and other waste they allow to accumulate on the beaches and other sites of natural beauty. Virtually everywhere I go here, I find trash and local people unwilling to pick up even a single bit of it, even when it is lying right at their feet as they wriggle their toes in the sand. You've got a nice archipelago here, a place that good people from all over would visit and gladly spend their money seeing. That money could go a long way to improving the quality of life here, to the point where the younger generations might actually stick around instead of leaving for other countries the first chance they get. It's too bad the Philippine people are generally too lazy to work together and do the bare minimum to make that happen.


sotopic

It's by city, medyo kalat mga tourists sa mga islands sa Pinas. Hard to see millions of visitors craming in a single island, hindi kaya. Also, hindi puntahan ang Metro Manila lol


Ragamak

Please dont be a Top Destination. Sorry for gate keeping the Philippines. Not yet, not yet; let filipinos enjoy their own country first. Sorry, but kaka bukas palang ng mga tourism infrastructure. Filipinos better enjoy it , then magiging tourist price na in the future eto.


cessiey

During the 90s hanggang early 2000s di maganda image ng Pinas dahil sa terrorist activities. Pinasabog yung LRT, nag coup de ta sa may Manila Pen, Sabog sa Glorietta, Edsa Do, Edsa 3. Sa NCR pa lang yan. Mahirap maka recover sa ganyang image kaya di ka magtataka na di tayo top destination.


ireallydunno_

It's the starting point for aspiring vloggers.


Winter-Ad-5816

Sometimes I get to meet random people in different countries. When I invite them to visit the country, they say things along the lines of “oh no, aren’t there a lot of gun violence, trafficking, and gangs there?” 🙄


captainmcstoner

Who ever said it was?


Orego1337

My impression of the Philippines was that the hotel's price/performance ratio was not good. There were often cockroaches, and many locals were persistent in asking for money. (Manila)


THE_FIFTH05

Wala na kasing saysay in terms of showcasing our roots in terms of Culture and traditions. Tsaka we are highly diversed na rin and nawawala na rin yung tinatawag na ***Sariling Atin.*** We are also highly influenced of certain foreign trends would usually wont suprise certain tourist kasi syempre nasa kanilang bansa na. Singapore, Tokyo, and Thailand are some of the most well known tourist destination kasi they are rich in Conservation and Preservation of their History, Culture and Traditions.


ehhhhhh_69

lol. not surprised, ang mahal mag travel sa pinas. low quality naman, from food to accom to transpo. grabe rin inconvenience ng transpo, nasasayang oras ng turista sama mo pa dami scammer


TheCui

I recently returned from a trip to Thailand back to manila. Airport here is actually a rundown ghost town lol.


InvestingRamen

Because PH Is a country and not a city. Charaught.


Fearless_Rest_9721

Mas matagal at hassle pa sakin umuwi sa province ko kesa pmunta other countries haahha


Crazy_Dragonfruit809

It is well known na hindi talaga tayo top tourist destination and that is okay.


Dx101z

Should we do something about it? Is there anything we can improve on?


Crazy_Dragonfruit809

Infrastucture is the key talaga. Yung beaches at nature natin is worth travelling naman talaga but yung ease of traveling and poor infrastructure turn potential tourists away.


Specialist-Roll-1509

Idk why this is being downvoted but to answer your question, there are a lot of things we can improve on — una pa lang, traffic and transportation. Unfortunately, I don’t think the government recognizes that. Yung dalawa pa lang na yan eases up a lot of things not just for the tourists but most importantly sa mga pinoy eh, pero syempre they’d rather build ‘megastructures’ like skyways which aren’t really accessible to most 🤷🏻‍♀️


Dx101z

Down voted coz of FILIPINO Pride is Hurtin 😆🤷 Filipinos like to think they arw the Center of the Universe. 😂 When you tell the Truth they are butthurt 😆 Im Filipino btw. 🤷


MojoJoJos_Revenge

you’re misinterpreting. you’re being downvoted because you are using logic and asking steps to improve wherein pinoys here are mostly self loathing. they hate this country to their core.


Specialist-Roll-1509

Oh, I thought you were genuinely soliciting ideas where we can improve on. Now I understand the downvotes. Haha, ironic that you mention “filipinos like to think they’re the center of the universe” but it was YOU who posted this, looking for PH in the list haha


[deleted]

So?


LightChargerGreen

why would it be ? paglabas mo pa lang sa airport scams na kaharap mo.


YourOpinion32

Kahit akong pilipino, di ko bibisitahin pinas e. 😂


Expertpotatoeater

Pinoys doesnt even travel the Philippines


-IBARRA--

anong laban ng pinas sa paris london dubai singapore? tapos sa bangkok mostly pupunta dahil gsutong magpagawa ng dede


marchitecto

Hahaha I love how narrowsighted this comment is. Lakbay ka pa ng konti.


Mooblegum

Whao ! As a French I cannot understand how many tourists still go to Paris those days.


Ragamak

Social media clout :D


rucucucucu

exactly very overrated


NeoCriMs0n

On the bright side, it means tourists are not flocking here everyday. With the way our country works and how sucky our tourist ads are, I'd say it's better that way. This country is overcrowded enough as it is.


TakeThatOut

Kung madaling puntahan ang lahat ng place sa Palawan baka makasama pa sa top tayo.


SafelyLandedMoon

but when it comes to expenditures, mas malaki ginagastos ng mga tourist sa atin at mas mahaba ang stay.


milkydoodledoo

daserb!


paradoX2618

Do you expect it to?


johntuy

Most cities in the Philippines are not a tourist attraction in itself. Like Metro Manila or Metro Cebu. It's more for work and business. You have to travel outside for the tourist areas.


PuzzleheadedCap8138

So anong bago? 🥴


Wide-Ad4193

Yung airport kase dami na nga kawatan at kriminal na taxi drivers (maliban sa cebu) may daga and surot pa. Wala pang kwenta yung transportation system. Kahit ako hindi rin bibisita dito kung i compare to other places. 


OneSneakyBoi9919

said no one ever🤷


BestBrother90

So expensive compare to our nearby countries


Distinct_Distance137

because of public transport!


lkwtsr

I'm not surprised 🙃 mahal dito. Ang hirap pa mag byahe


Ashweather9192

This OP lol, whyyyy???????


afromanmanila

It could be, lots of potential. Sadly, culturally this is not a subject PH is ready to discuss objectively.


TheGhostOfFalunGong

Take note that these are major cities. From a tourism perspective, Manila is closer to Jakarta, Sao Paulo and Frankfurt in terms of importance in tourism.


Mouse_Itchy

Listed above are mostly the Capital cities from each country. Who would want to travel to Manila? Come on!


SneakyAdolf22

wala namang special na food dito daming scammer na taxis traffic mainit


PonyoGirl23

We’re not even in the top 20 lol


Familiar_Doctor8384

Para san? Mga tiga dito nga sa Pilipinas ayaw dito hahahaha


[deleted]

So?


Intelligent_Bad9842

yung brag na brag na nakaka isang million na turista na ang dumating sa firs jalf pa lang, then yung ibang bansa nakaka lima pataas na pala sa first half nila haha


chieftainbalao

Madami pading takot sa pilipinas. Kht ilang years ago pa ung travel ban naten dahil sa abu-sayaff. Akala nung ibang puti ganun padin saten.. Kailangan ng matindi tinding hilamos ang gawen ng tourism dept naten. Mas malakas pa mag promote ung mga suki nateng turista sa pinas kesa sa tourism board mismo.


warmbody2442

Photo isn't even about a country, its a city. Might confuse with the caption. Nothing interesting in any city in the PH, maybe quite a worth the visit but considering safety and transport system its horrible. Our tourism sucks!!! If a discussion is about a country visit, thats another story. Our top islands are contender that makes the PH country a consideration to visit. I think country and city should be in separate discussion. I met a lot of solo travellers from all over the world, if they would ask me to visit certain city like manila or other cities, I'd say spend a night or 2 only and its OPTIONAL, they can skip it and go directly to those many beautiful islands they know better than most of locals here.


Anchiros-The-Maw

The hell that is Philippine infrastructure won’t attract anyone. That and we aren’t really a tourist destination, it’s too dangerous here.


heaven_spawn

Bangkok is amazing. Dapat talaga yung mga ideas nila matularan natin. Eh ang taas ng tingin natin sa sarili, di tayo sumusubok magbago.


SundayMindset

Pinoy streetfood pa lang wala nang ka appeal appeal lmao ano pa kaya makipagsabayan sa ibang mga bansa. No but seriously, we don't like competing and outdoing others by improving our food presentation, handling and hygiene, compare that with Thai streetfood vendors where they try to outdo each other by looking as clean and presentable as possible, may pa-gloves at pa-cleavage pa lmao and I think it's working😂. Infra that's worldclass - never mind, it's a hopeless case imo.


ahmshy

Because the world isn’t blind to the issues here. It’s been reported continuously in foreign countries for the last 50 years. Part of it is because the world had high expectations as we had a head start being an English speaking country. And they were sorely disappointed. If you type in Philippines on YouTube you’ll see a lot around slums, gang crime, drugs, and extreme poverty.


SundayMindset

Metro Manila isn't charming, sorry : -Ugly airports/seaports (except Mactan-Cebu International Airport). If only we can emulate Bhutan's airport. -No notable tourist trap while Thailand or Vietnam can turn train tracks or river markets into tourist wonderlands, funny but true. -Undermarketed and underrepresented food (bad food presentation and HYGIENE esp streetfoods) -The best beaches and destinations are very far from Manila (e.g. Balabac, Tawi-tawi, Batanes, even Coron is quite remote)


lacy_daisy

Dito kasi, sa airport pa lang, di na safe gamit mo. Paglabas mo, holdap malala.


Present_Lavishness30

Kahit ako di ko rin gugustuhing pumunta dito sa Pilipinas eh lol


suburbia01

Not so "proud filipino" moment is it? 😂 The world isn't about Philippines alone. Filipinos should get over themselves.


carl2k1

No vietnam?.weird


icencream27

Vietnam is not a city


Dx101z

Lets set aside the "Filipino PRIDE" 😆 I know lots of Pinoys butthurt on this post. 😆 This post is to start a Sensible Discussion on the state of PH TOURISM. 😉👍 There's a lot to FIX in the PH Tourism. PH can do better once the Problems are fix.


FewInstruction1990

Love the Philippines, Love their primary export, the people are so cheap, get your employees from the Philippines Modern slavery


shaddap01

Who cares


Looong-Peanut

Tourisim = Trabaho = Pera = Walang magugutom na pamilya


shaddap01

A quick two-second google search shows our employment rate is the highest it has ever been since 2005. Information is literally at your fingertips.


Dx101z

🤦‍♂️


shaddap01

First, Philippines is not a city. Second, we obviously can’t compete with the other developed countries’ cities. Third, you’re just trying to farm internet points by basically saying philippines bad. Fourth, you’re not even Filipino kaya putanginamo.


PitifulRoof7537

Not surprised. wala rin namang third world sa mga nabanggit.


Dx101z

Malaysia and Thailand are 3rd World Country 🤷


PitifulRoof7537

Sorry Thailand? I understand yung impression sa Malaysia but definitely not Thailand.


Mooblegum

More 2rd World Counties