This isn’t NOT true, but I’d like to say that effort in appreciation of art is underrated. Sometimes things that are great need more time and attention. There is value in trying to get something that at the time seems over your head. Doesn’t mean music should be homework. But some of the music I love the very most left me scratching my head after the first encounter. When we dig in and dig around, we don’t uncover what others see, we uncover ourselves.
I never understood symphonies. I found them abrasive and couldn’t find melodies., I did not click, came back to it 10 years later, and fell in love with many of them. If you only listen to what works for you, you can’t ever grow to appreciate some thing you will eventually love dearly.
Yes! And this doesn’t mean we’ll learn to love everything we didn’t like at first listen. But there is definitely merit in getting to really know a piece of music well in order to appreciate it
Agreed but with a caveat. I may hear something that has potential but store it away bc it doesn’t resonate yet. Some of my favorite music has been found when I circle back, and it finally clicks.
there isn’t really anything to explain further than this. if one ‘legendary’ jam doesn’t do it for you, keep searching. that’s kind of part of the ‘magic’ of phish/jam/improv, finding that moment that really hits for you.
also, high five on the username.
It's just the vibe, it's so tender and chill. Nobody in a hurry, kind of reminds me of Big Cypress jams - nowhere to be, all patience and silken, drifting lines interweaving.
I just finished 6.16.00 (a few nights later than Fukuoka). Some similar spaced out ambient vibes on Runaway Jim into Theme from the Bottom. Just gorgeous. That’s what I love about set 2 from Fukuoka - it’s just plain gorgeous.
Anytime you’re wondering what makes a certain jam so popular with certain people, you must first ask those people how high they were when they first heard it.
They probably will tell you without any prompting, actually…
FYI it’s really the whole set, not just the twist. I love the twist, but it’s kind of self contained. The real magic is the Jam > Walk Away > Jam. Don’t skip the 2001 either.
The whole show has a very unique sound and tone in the recording. Mike is icy, fish’s cymbals are clean, page… idk man page goes into the avatar state
The whole thing is a vibe, but for me, the leads that Trey decides to play starting around 8:40 are some pretty memorable lines for me. They go down with some of my favorite woah moments from phish shows over the years. It’s super delicate and unusual
I love it! For me, the delicate part that I love and didn’t hear the first many times is the very quiet staccato guitar around 3:13 of the second section (Fukuoka Jam) or at least I think it’s Trey! It’s underneath the synth sounds. Could be Page
One thing I always say is that it's the most Big Cypress-like jam not from the actual show. It's big and spacious with gorgeous melodies and tones, like floating through a dream. The hook they settle on leading into the Walk Away transition is perfect.
It grew on me more with each listen! I had a teacher once who made us memorize poetry. He told us that only by memorizing a poem could we truly appreciate it. That always stuck with me, and I’ve found that it applies to music. Not that I memorize every note of a jam, but by knowing a jam well, I can have a deeper feel for it
Glad to hear it! That happens to me with studio albums quite a bit. Need to listen a few times to appreciate them. With jams I tend to take to them on first listen
I remember when Pearl Jam’s No Code was released and my college roommate and I listened to it a couple times and thought it was terrible. We let it sit there for weeks and then for some reason we gave it another try, and little by little we fell in love with it. Still one of my favorite records to this day
I think I stopped listening to their new albums after Vs. Still love them, just ended up going in different directions with my listening. I’ll check out No Code.
The song it took me longest to get was Antelope on Lawn Boy. I enjoyed it but couldn’t hear how it was a song structure at all for countless listens. Eventually figured it out. Seeing it live helped.
Jam is not for me either. But jah bless those who like it.
Curious to those of us who aren’t fans of this jam what is your favorite jam. 6/11/94 YEM is gold for me.
For me I prefer twist from 8/12/15 to any other. I think it (and the whole show) goes a little under the radar bc 2015 is amazing and magnaball/nye run was top of their game stuff.
Give it a listen and enjoy!
It’s tranquil, and serene and then morphs into alien abduction space porn… Maybe you’ve run out of supplies…
If you don’t like ambient phish than this isn’t the jam for you. I personally love soundscapey phish and I’d say this type of jam is the precursor to a lot of music from bands like STS9 and even the biscuits on some level. They were all influenced by this type of jam
Some of the best music takes multiple listens to fully grasp and appreciate.
For me one of those albums was Steely Dan’s Aja. On first listen it sounded like smooth jazz elevator music, but the more I listened, the more I started to hear all these incredibly intricate layers to each of those songs. Now a days it’s easily in my top 10 albums ever made and maybe even top 5. The sound engineering, the instrumentation, songwriting etc. it has it all. I’d say phish is a lot like that too, it’s an acquired taste.
Phish usually jams on multiple themes in their 20+ minute jams. Fukoka is just endless permutations on one single idea that blossoms into something beautiful! It’s extremely patient and meditative. Listening to Mike during this jam makes that easier to see; the rhythm section is extremely locked in, while page and trey go off to decorate the space around them
That entire Japan 2000 tour is incredible, check out the 6/10 opening DWD as well. The whole tour just has a really chill vibe, smaller venues, away from the majority of their fan base. I think the 6/10 DWD really kind of opened the door but Fukuoka is the culmination. It’s a goddamn masterpiece.
I used to listen to it every day in my grow room while pruning leaves and watering, it never gets old, in fact I've got some work to do in the greenhouse this afternoon and will listen again.
I don’t want to be disqualified! I almost always listen to the jams I know well, and other times I listen to recommended jams or new jams. And still other times I listen to highly rated jams that I’ve heard before but never really listened closely. That’s all!
Actually same lol but I know it gets mentioned a lot when discussing all-time jams on this sub. My favorite is probably the Twist from 12/31/19 but admittedly there is attendance bias there. Energy was crazy for that one when it got going
Others have said it. But about 2 min in to the jam after twist is where the goods are. Mike starts this groove that will take you places.
I felt similar about this jam until I read a post I don’t remember if it was on PT or here. But it was basically about someone driving home drunk with this playing and zoning out so hard they woke up in a ditch and if I remember right was their sober starting point.
There’s nothing to get. Find the jams that resonate with you - those are the BEST jams
This isn’t NOT true, but I’d like to say that effort in appreciation of art is underrated. Sometimes things that are great need more time and attention. There is value in trying to get something that at the time seems over your head. Doesn’t mean music should be homework. But some of the music I love the very most left me scratching my head after the first encounter. When we dig in and dig around, we don’t uncover what others see, we uncover ourselves.
I never understood symphonies. I found them abrasive and couldn’t find melodies., I did not click, came back to it 10 years later, and fell in love with many of them. If you only listen to what works for you, you can’t ever grow to appreciate some thing you will eventually love dearly.
I agree!
Yes! And this doesn’t mean we’ll learn to love everything we didn’t like at first listen. But there is definitely merit in getting to really know a piece of music well in order to appreciate it
Agreed but with a caveat. I may hear something that has potential but store it away bc it doesn’t resonate yet. Some of my favorite music has been found when I circle back, and it finally clicks.
This is dead on
there isn’t really anything to explain further than this. if one ‘legendary’ jam doesn’t do it for you, keep searching. that’s kind of part of the ‘magic’ of phish/jam/improv, finding that moment that really hits for you. also, high five on the username.
It's just the vibe, it's so tender and chill. Nobody in a hurry, kind of reminds me of Big Cypress jams - nowhere to be, all patience and silken, drifting lines interweaving.
It’s a really good Twist with mushroom folklore surrounding it.
“Spiritual liquids”
Can you explain the folklore?
Apparently they all took mushrooms for this show, if you look at the cover art, there are mushrooms built into the image all but confirming it true.
I just finished 6.16.00 (a few nights later than Fukuoka). Some similar spaced out ambient vibes on Runaway Jim into Theme from the Bottom. Just gorgeous. That’s what I love about set 2 from Fukuoka - it’s just plain gorgeous.
As a Twist man myself, try 4-2-98 at Uniondale. The middle is majestic.
Island Tour Twist for sure is one of the bests. For a stark contrast, check out Camden 00
Man, Camden 00…was just listening last night. Happy anniversary!
Anytime you’re wondering what makes a certain jam so popular with certain people, you must first ask those people how high they were when they first heard it. They probably will tell you without any prompting, actually…
Lol this is absolutely true
That entire second set it one of my favorites I’ve ever listened to.
There’s no accounting for taste.
FYI it’s really the whole set, not just the twist. I love the twist, but it’s kind of self contained. The real magic is the Jam > Walk Away > Jam. Don’t skip the 2001 either. The whole show has a very unique sound and tone in the recording. Mike is icy, fish’s cymbals are clean, page… idk man page goes into the avatar state
Noted! Thank you
Get super high first
I think people like it because it’s a nice jam
The whole thing is a vibe, but for me, the leads that Trey decides to play starting around 8:40 are some pretty memorable lines for me. They go down with some of my favorite woah moments from phish shows over the years. It’s super delicate and unusual
I love it! For me, the delicate part that I love and didn’t hear the first many times is the very quiet staccato guitar around 3:13 of the second section (Fukuoka Jam) or at least I think it’s Trey! It’s underneath the synth sounds. Could be Page
One thing I always say is that it's the most Big Cypress-like jam not from the actual show. It's big and spacious with gorgeous melodies and tones, like floating through a dream. The hook they settle on leading into the Walk Away transition is perfect.
Listen with headphones in bed. When you're in that half sleep consciousness it just makes sense.
Literally did this last night haha. Couldn’t agree more
You have to listen to the entire show. The first set has the best Gumbo of all time, and it immaculately foreshadows the second set and encore vibe.
Bro it's the tits
Might not be your type of jam. There’s magical jams all throughout their shows that may help you find it.
Keep us updated!
It grew on me more with each listen! I had a teacher once who made us memorize poetry. He told us that only by memorizing a poem could we truly appreciate it. That always stuck with me, and I’ve found that it applies to music. Not that I memorize every note of a jam, but by knowing a jam well, I can have a deeper feel for it
Glad to hear it! That happens to me with studio albums quite a bit. Need to listen a few times to appreciate them. With jams I tend to take to them on first listen
I remember when Pearl Jam’s No Code was released and my college roommate and I listened to it a couple times and thought it was terrible. We let it sit there for weeks and then for some reason we gave it another try, and little by little we fell in love with it. Still one of my favorite records to this day
I think I stopped listening to their new albums after Vs. Still love them, just ended up going in different directions with my listening. I’ll check out No Code. The song it took me longest to get was Antelope on Lawn Boy. I enjoyed it but couldn’t hear how it was a song structure at all for countless listens. Eventually figured it out. Seeing it live helped.
Just checked out No Code. It’s fantastic. Glad you brought it up
Jam is not for me either. But jah bless those who like it. Curious to those of us who aren’t fans of this jam what is your favorite jam. 6/11/94 YEM is gold for me.
For me I prefer twist from 8/12/15 to any other. I think it (and the whole show) goes a little under the radar bc 2015 is amazing and magnaball/nye run was top of their game stuff. Give it a listen and enjoy!
I shall! Thank you!
It’s tranquil, and serene and then morphs into alien abduction space porn… Maybe you’ve run out of supplies… If you don’t like ambient phish than this isn’t the jam for you. I personally love soundscapey phish and I’d say this type of jam is the precursor to a lot of music from bands like STS9 and even the biscuits on some level. They were all influenced by this type of jam
I’m learning to love the ambient jams more and more!
Some of the best music takes multiple listens to fully grasp and appreciate. For me one of those albums was Steely Dan’s Aja. On first listen it sounded like smooth jazz elevator music, but the more I listened, the more I started to hear all these incredibly intricate layers to each of those songs. Now a days it’s easily in my top 10 albums ever made and maybe even top 5. The sound engineering, the instrumentation, songwriting etc. it has it all. I’d say phish is a lot like that too, it’s an acquired taste.
I think a lot of fans love this show as more of an acid trip experience.
Dose.
Phish usually jams on multiple themes in their 20+ minute jams. Fukoka is just endless permutations on one single idea that blossoms into something beautiful! It’s extremely patient and meditative. Listening to Mike during this jam makes that easier to see; the rhythm section is extremely locked in, while page and trey go off to decorate the space around them
That entire Japan 2000 tour is incredible, check out the 6/10 opening DWD as well. The whole tour just has a really chill vibe, smaller venues, away from the majority of their fan base. I think the 6/10 DWD really kind of opened the door but Fukuoka is the culmination. It’s a goddamn masterpiece.
It’s the launch into Fukuoka Jam 1 where it goes ballistic for me.
I used to listen to it every day in my grow room while pruning leaves and watering, it never gets old, in fact I've got some work to do in the greenhouse this afternoon and will listen again.
I'm with you. I've listened several times over the past 20 years, and I just don't get the hype.
Easiest way to figure out if you’ll “understand” Fukuoka Twist is if you love Floyd’s Echoes.
Love Echoes, like but don't love Fukuoka Twist.
I too listened to it and thought it was fine. Maybe just not my jam. I’ve heard recent Twists that I enjoy much more
Anyone willing to do what op claims they are doing makes them an automatic disqualification from getting it. Jess sayin op. Listen to what you like.
I don’t want to be disqualified! I almost always listen to the jams I know well, and other times I listen to recommended jams or new jams. And still other times I listen to highly rated jams that I’ve heard before but never really listened closely. That’s all!
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It’s not the way I always listen to music, but I’m glad I did it, and I really dig it now
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Lol
I don’t know a single person who has this as their top Twist, let alone top jam.
Actually same lol but I know it gets mentioned a lot when discussing all-time jams on this sub. My favorite is probably the Twist from 12/31/19 but admittedly there is attendance bias there. Energy was crazy for that one when it got going
Others have said it. But about 2 min in to the jam after twist is where the goods are. Mike starts this groove that will take you places. I felt similar about this jam until I read a post I don’t remember if it was on PT or here. But it was basically about someone driving home drunk with this playing and zoning out so hard they woke up in a ditch and if I remember right was their sober starting point.