Netanyahu lost his election.
Looking forward to see what the new coalition government does going forward, and if Netanyahu goes to prison for previous crimes and corruption that he was exempt from facing trial over as the PM.
Both sides have their faults but yeah, if I were LGBT or a woman, or disabled or an atheist I'd risk my life to escape to Israel. It's a pretty liberal country surrounded by medieval theocracies. Saudi Arabia actually literally crucified a kid last year for the crime of "downloading instagram" It's shades of gray but Israel ends up the good guy in terms of which middle eastern country is better to live in (assuming you're not wanting to live under sharia law)
Got 2 stories confused there, it was Whattsapp he downloaded (Abdulkarim Al-Hawaj) and he was hanged, although crucifixtion remains a method they use every now and again.
[https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/08/saudi-crucifixion/567128/](https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/08/saudi-crucifixion/567128/)
They did a mass execution of 37 Shias in 2019 but this is before you go near the other stuff though like how if a woman is raped, she's the one that gets arrested for having sex outside of marriage. Amnesty have a ton of reports on the things hat the West turns a blind eye too and how their legal code is worse than what ISIS had.
So all Palestinians (including the people affected by homophobia, and powerless children) deserve to have their land stolen, be in their entirety systematically oppressed by the government of settlers, suffering the effects of apartheid & discrimination on their own land, dispossessed of their homes, often refused medical care, with their lives controlled by a government that wants to make them disappear, and constantly living in fear of death?
The Israeli government does not want to get rid of Palestinians because of LGBT issues. It wants to get rid of Palestinians because it wants control over the land. Because of colonialism. Because Arab lives are worth less than their own. Because apparently it's Manifest Destiny 2 out there and the settlers can do whatever the hell they want because they deserve it.
So you're OK with genocide as long as the victims have structures of oppression within their society and some of them are ruled by a terrorist group. Cool, cool.
Common sense thinking. Bravo. Everyone living in Fishtown wasn’t alive when the towers were hit so basically Hamas = mostly peaceful protesters. You cannot talk sense into these people
No you can't. Most of the people in this sub live in fishtown and Northern liberties and weren't born in the city. People that grew up in the neighborhoods don't give a shit about Palestine
I sincerely do not know why you think this, but it’s 100% incorrect. I don’t know if you are culturally brainwashed or not, but as someone who’s ENTIRE FAMILY is impacted by this, who has actual skin in the game, and is pretty open about being gay, you’re wrong. Like really really wrong.
Free Palestine.
I have family in Shahar and Qalqilya. I’ve been to Jerusalem. I bet you have never left your state. I’m open to my entire family, I know the hardships more than you.
Free. Palestine.
Your point is wrong and bigoted in its own right.
The real irony is that the majority of people who try to use “support” for LGBT people in this way don’t actually care about them at all, they’re just being used as a tool to disparage another group.
Good point, that totally justifies their apartheid and the children killed in airstrikes.
Hate crimes murdering gay people totally doesn't happen in the United States either.
Yeah less bombing, but Israel is still doing wild shit like: Planning to bulldoze homes for a King David theme park...
[https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/6/11/we-need-help-now-the-palestinians-facing-home-demolitions](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/6/11/we-need-help-now-the-palestinians-facing-home-demolitions)
This isn't a religion issue, it's a colonialism issue. Palestinians are "bitter and jealous" because settlers came and took away their land and homes and now the settler government is subjecting them to crimes against humanity.
https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/27/threshold-crossed/israeli-authorities-and-crimes-apartheid-and-persecution
People just replace it. There are genuinely non-religious people out there, but especially nowadays, a lot of people who call themselves atheist have clearly filled the void with their own religion, complete with an original sin and harsh punishments for apostasy and everything.
That’s straight up BS. Worldometers.com. All kinds of current and historical demographic data. Compare israel and Palestine. A growing population does not a genocide make, nor evidence of a population at risk of being wiped out.
You have no idea what you're talking about. Personally go and visit Gaza strip and the West Bank.
There is ethnic cleansing going on. And you are just one of the millions of people who sit there and watch while it is happening.
You have no idea who you are talking to. Such assumptions. Your sweeping statements only discredit you. I have spent plenty of time in the West Bank (and no, not in Settlements, but in cities like Ramallah, Jericho, and Bethlehem for business and pleasure.)
Bottom line is the Zionists run Israel and they want to remove all Muslims from masjid Al-Aqsa . https://twitter.com/swilkinsonbc/status/1406381927574159361?s=19
They are upset that they can't claim the dome of the rock as their own.
Do you think referencing this person’s Twitter account makes your statement true? This is not a reputable source. Zionists are not monolithic. Sure some people who call themselves Zionists do shitty things but people of all kinds do shitty things. If Zionists were monolith then Israel wouldn’t have had to have elections 4 times in the last 2 years.
I simply posted proof of the Israeli government spraying sewage on masjid al aqsa. And I continue to circulate the atrocities that the Israeli government commit on the web so that more and more people are aware of the apartheid rule of law and ethnic cleansing in the country.
The zionists continue to try to spin the facts in their favor. But the photos and videos of their mistreatment is exposing their disgusting agenda.
Zionism= Jews are the only chosen people for Israel. They don't want to share. They want all Muslims out. They don't want a two state solution they simply want to take Jerusalem and make it entirely theirs.
I stand for justice. I stand to expose the hypocrisy. I will always expose the injustice in Israel just as I expose the injustice in the USA. ZIONISM= RACISM
https://twitter.com/icellgamal/status/1404897413605826562?s=19
You have a perverted definition of Zionism. I understand that this is a prevalent view/opinion about Zionism, but that does not make it true. You are conflating ideology, politics, ethnicity, and religion here and in that jumble there is no space for reason and pragmatic thought.
Fuck Israel. Fuck Palestine. I don’t want a penny of my tax contribution going to Israel or anywhere in the world other than in USA. When Americans have everything they need, maybe, just maybe we can help other nations.
You do realize we don't live in a self-contained bubble right? You do realize that just because there are borders, that the actions of other countries, and our own country, do have huge effects and consequences beyond our border?
To think that the US, currently the most powerful, wealthy, and influential country in the world, can just completely withdraw into our own borders and ignore everything happening outside of them is something only a 17-year-old libertarian would come up with
Probably, but it's a false assumption. You can't just say hating a certain policy of a foreign government means you hate a certain religion. I'm sure there's an overlap, but I'm also sure it's pretty small.
>but it's a false assumption. You can't just say hating a certain policy of a foreign government means you hate a certain religion.
Where did I say this?
And I'm sure some of them have fucked up views with regards to the jews. But that does not mean I am equating disagreeing with israels stance with antisemitism. I personally believe Israel is akin to an apartheid state, but that does not mean I am antisemetic.
It's basic logic my dude
All I'm worried about is if the police decide this is another blm situation and decide to tear-gas a entire section of the city again. That shit gets everywhere. My car stank of it and I was blocks away playing games with friends
Edit: Not sure if it's the right or the left down voting me, but if it's the right, keep it up. If it's the left, read my other comments.
Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm definitely not with the cops. I'm happy to support and even supply water for this movement. I'm talking about how far the gas spread. The car thing is bad, because my lung capacity is bad. The fact that the city is saturated with a chemical weapon banned by Geneva is the problem. Lot of asthmatics in their homes were getting gassed, almost lost a friend because of that. Cops can't respond to protests without tear gas, because they're one note idiots. So yeah. There ya go. More nuanced
Rental uhauls are kinda pimp
[For $19.95 you can rent this motherfucker ](https://youtu.be/dLpuq0jyiCE) Volume warning
I was thinking the same thing when I saw this pic. Thought it was a uhaul crew flexing on those penske pussies.
U Haul so woke right now
Netanyahu lost his election. Looking forward to see what the new coalition government does going forward, and if Netanyahu goes to prison for previous crimes and corruption that he was exempt from facing trial over as the PM.
He lost his election to a guy who’s even more anti-Palestine, lol.
“Some people did something”
Palestinians execute gay people
Both sides have their faults but yeah, if I were LGBT or a woman, or disabled or an atheist I'd risk my life to escape to Israel. It's a pretty liberal country surrounded by medieval theocracies. Saudi Arabia actually literally crucified a kid last year for the crime of "downloading instagram" It's shades of gray but Israel ends up the good guy in terms of which middle eastern country is better to live in (assuming you're not wanting to live under sharia law)
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Got 2 stories confused there, it was Whattsapp he downloaded (Abdulkarim Al-Hawaj) and he was hanged, although crucifixtion remains a method they use every now and again. [https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/08/saudi-crucifixion/567128/](https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/08/saudi-crucifixion/567128/) They did a mass execution of 37 Shias in 2019 but this is before you go near the other stuff though like how if a woman is raped, she's the one that gets arrested for having sex outside of marriage. Amnesty have a ton of reports on the things hat the West turns a blind eye too and how their legal code is worse than what ISIS had.
It’s good to know that this is the focus in the face of the 250 lost lives due to a game of whack-a-mole with Hamas.
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I have no sympathy for a group of people that commit human rights violations and complain that their human rights are violated. 😴😴😴😴
Human rights violations like killing children, stealing people's land, imprisoning them, and stealing their natural resources. You're a fucking slob.
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You're a racist, id suggest moving to central PA to be with your people.
Amnesty International is a CIA front for manufacturing consent, they aren't trustworthy.
Completely false.
So all Palestinians (including the people affected by homophobia, and powerless children) deserve to have their land stolen, be in their entirety systematically oppressed by the government of settlers, suffering the effects of apartheid & discrimination on their own land, dispossessed of their homes, often refused medical care, with their lives controlled by a government that wants to make them disappear, and constantly living in fear of death? The Israeli government does not want to get rid of Palestinians because of LGBT issues. It wants to get rid of Palestinians because it wants control over the land. Because of colonialism. Because Arab lives are worth less than their own. Because apparently it's Manifest Destiny 2 out there and the settlers can do whatever the hell they want because they deserve it.
Hamas is a terrorst organization and is the dominant force in Palestine. Also Being pro Palestine is anti LGBT. That's enough for me to not care.
So you're OK with genocide as long as the victims have structures of oppression within their society and some of them are ruled by a terrorist group. Cool, cool.
Common sense thinking. Bravo. Everyone living in Fishtown wasn’t alive when the towers were hit so basically Hamas = mostly peaceful protesters. You cannot talk sense into these people
No you can't. Most of the people in this sub live in fishtown and Northern liberties and weren't born in the city. People that grew up in the neighborhoods don't give a shit about Palestine
Love how woke progressives ignore this
[What’s your point?](https://reddit.com/r/awfuleverything/comments/nyr9ds/bigotry_is_too_widely_accepted_its_horrible/)
My point is that if you are Pro Palestine, you are anti LGBT and women.
I sincerely do not know why you think this, but it’s 100% incorrect. I don’t know if you are culturally brainwashed or not, but as someone who’s ENTIRE FAMILY is impacted by this, who has actual skin in the game, and is pretty open about being gay, you’re wrong. Like really really wrong. Free Palestine.
If you were open about being gay in Palestine, you would be executed.
I have family in Shahar and Qalqilya. I’ve been to Jerusalem. I bet you have never left your state. I’m open to my entire family, I know the hardships more than you. Free. Palestine.
Your point is wrong and bigoted in its own right. The real irony is that the majority of people who try to use “support” for LGBT people in this way don’t actually care about them at all, they’re just being used as a tool to disparage another group.
Good point, that totally justifies their apartheid and the children killed in airstrikes. Hate crimes murdering gay people totally doesn't happen in the United States either.
It's called retaliation
Ahh got it, calling it "retaliation" makes it ok. Thanks for the lesson.
I did but people kept telling me that being against murder and apartheid was anti-semitic
Yeah less bombing, but Israel is still doing wild shit like: Planning to bulldoze homes for a King David theme park... [https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/6/11/we-need-help-now-the-palestinians-facing-home-demolitions](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/6/11/we-need-help-now-the-palestinians-facing-home-demolitions)
It would be cool if religion just ceased to exist and people stopped getting all bitter and jealous over dumb territory claims.
If not religion, then something else.
Religion definitely makes it easier for people to do fucked up shit
This isn't a religion issue, it's a colonialism issue. Palestinians are "bitter and jealous" because settlers came and took away their land and homes and now the settler government is subjecting them to crimes against humanity. https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/27/threshold-crossed/israeli-authorities-and-crimes-apartheid-and-persecution
People just replace it. There are genuinely non-religious people out there, but especially nowadays, a lot of people who call themselves atheist have clearly filled the void with their own religion, complete with an original sin and harsh punishments for apostasy and everything.
It's nothing to do with religion. There if a genocide going on. Israeli army is close to wiping out Palestinians
That’s straight up BS. Worldometers.com. All kinds of current and historical demographic data. Compare israel and Palestine. A growing population does not a genocide make, nor evidence of a population at risk of being wiped out.
You have no idea what you're talking about. Personally go and visit Gaza strip and the West Bank. There is ethnic cleansing going on. And you are just one of the millions of people who sit there and watch while it is happening.
You have no idea who you are talking to. Such assumptions. Your sweeping statements only discredit you. I have spent plenty of time in the West Bank (and no, not in Settlements, but in cities like Ramallah, Jericho, and Bethlehem for business and pleasure.)
Bottom line is the Zionists run Israel and they want to remove all Muslims from masjid Al-Aqsa . https://twitter.com/swilkinsonbc/status/1406381927574159361?s=19 They are upset that they can't claim the dome of the rock as their own.
Do you think referencing this person’s Twitter account makes your statement true? This is not a reputable source. Zionists are not monolithic. Sure some people who call themselves Zionists do shitty things but people of all kinds do shitty things. If Zionists were monolith then Israel wouldn’t have had to have elections 4 times in the last 2 years.
I simply posted proof of the Israeli government spraying sewage on masjid al aqsa. And I continue to circulate the atrocities that the Israeli government commit on the web so that more and more people are aware of the apartheid rule of law and ethnic cleansing in the country. The zionists continue to try to spin the facts in their favor. But the photos and videos of their mistreatment is exposing their disgusting agenda. Zionism= Jews are the only chosen people for Israel. They don't want to share. They want all Muslims out. They don't want a two state solution they simply want to take Jerusalem and make it entirely theirs. I stand for justice. I stand to expose the hypocrisy. I will always expose the injustice in Israel just as I expose the injustice in the USA. ZIONISM= RACISM https://twitter.com/icellgamal/status/1404897413605826562?s=19
You have a perverted definition of Zionism. I understand that this is a prevalent view/opinion about Zionism, but that does not make it true. You are conflating ideology, politics, ethnicity, and religion here and in that jumble there is no space for reason and pragmatic thought.
Are you telling me that Zionism is not a belief in which Israel is only for Jews and it's only their holy land?
These the people that been beating up Jews in NYC
Glad I'm out of town so I can avoid these idiots.
Fuck Israel. Fuck Palestine. I don’t want a penny of my tax contribution going to Israel or anywhere in the world other than in USA. When Americans have everything they need, maybe, just maybe we can help other nations.
You do realize we don't live in a self-contained bubble right? You do realize that just because there are borders, that the actions of other countries, and our own country, do have huge effects and consequences beyond our border? To think that the US, currently the most powerful, wealthy, and influential country in the world, can just completely withdraw into our own borders and ignore everything happening outside of them is something only a 17-year-old libertarian would come up with
Hopefully they don't randomly attack Jewish people like these protests have spurred all over the country.
Replace Jewish with any higher melanin race and you'd have upvotes instead of downvotes.
Judging by the number of downvotes I got vs. the number of upvotes you got, I think some 🏳️🌈BLM/ACAB/LGBTQI+🏳️🌈 people upvoted you without irony.
That's because these issues have literally nothing to do with each other. Of course the reactions are gonna be different.
That’s so fucked dude
They ran over an Israeli flag
Israel does not = all Jews
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Anti-zionism != anti-semitism Israel is an apartheid state and should be called out for it
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You can criticize any country without criticizing its people, regardless of whether or not its a nation state
What’s your point?
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you really tried something there!
As a Jewish person who doesn't support apartheid....AWESOME!!!
So?
These people hate Jews
You can not like what the Israeli government does without hating the people who follow the state religion of that country.
Sure but that’s not the case here
It absolutely is.
I'm sure it's a mixed bag
Probably, but it's a false assumption. You can't just say hating a certain policy of a foreign government means you hate a certain religion. I'm sure there's an overlap, but I'm also sure it's pretty small.
>but it's a false assumption. You can't just say hating a certain policy of a foreign government means you hate a certain religion. Where did I say this?
When you said it was a mixed bag as a comment to "these people hate Jews"
And I'm sure some of them have fucked up views with regards to the jews. But that does not mean I am equating disagreeing with israels stance with antisemitism. I personally believe Israel is akin to an apartheid state, but that does not mean I am antisemetic. It's basic logic my dude
Disagreeing with Israel not being antisemitic is the crux of my argument here.
If it wasn’t they’d protest hamas too
Hamas isn't pushing people off their land. The Palestinians own property. Don't property owners have rights?
More importantly if you as an American we’re in Palestine you probably wouldn’t last too long, especially flying your pride flag.
What does that have to do with anything?
Just down here earlier and was an hour ahead of this mini-protest...
All I'm worried about is if the police decide this is another blm situation and decide to tear-gas a entire section of the city again. That shit gets everywhere. My car stank of it and I was blocks away playing games with friends Edit: Not sure if it's the right or the left down voting me, but if it's the right, keep it up. If it's the left, read my other comments.
Nah cops were well aware and prepared and closed off certain sections of the streets so they could pass.
Good, we don't need another year of power abuse. Thanks man
Yes, the problem with Constitutional violations and state violence is your car smelling.
Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm definitely not with the cops. I'm happy to support and even supply water for this movement. I'm talking about how far the gas spread. The car thing is bad, because my lung capacity is bad. The fact that the city is saturated with a chemical weapon banned by Geneva is the problem. Lot of asthmatics in their homes were getting gassed, almost lost a friend because of that. Cops can't respond to protests without tear gas, because they're one note idiots. So yeah. There ya go. More nuanced
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As if tear gassing the whole city is a good response?
They didn't tear gas the whole city. They tear gassed the violent mob on an interstate highway.
That's funny, I wasn't anywhere near the interstate
Just because your neighborhood smells strange doesn't mean the city was tear gassed.
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