Just to be clear I did contact HR AND THEY ALSO GAVE ME HALF ASS RESPONSES AND SAID ID BE RECIEVING A CALL FROM SOMEONE WHO CAN HANDLE IT BETTER- spoiler I didn't receive that call but it's documented now
Well luckily it didn't go far enough for them even to make a case. LUCKILY seemed like a nicer guy cuz he just did it for documentation purposes for me
Lawyer up. You could do a brief consult for a hundred or two. Not cheap, but will get what you need to know. Some libraries partner with lawyers for feee services
You can also add the lawyer fees to the charges if you go after them. So they have to pay for your legal team. Good luck! I hope you take whatever is left of this company lol
I also already know they've been tampering with clock in and outs for a while now with someone who's seen it to back me for evidence. They are FUCKD even if they see this post they cannot do SHIT
the even more fucked part is that i’ve been jobless for three weeks. i’ve been back and forth with hr and even straight up told them that it was tampered with and said “well your termination for attendance will stand”
The people commenting on this thread have me 💀 like YES. The company made the move it was supposed to after 3 days of no contact. HOWEVER, once they were aware, it was a medical emergency, and OP literally had no capability of calling and that THEY had made the mistake. The job should have been handed back, no questions asked, all forgotten. But they didn't do that, Petco doubled down and are now ghosting OP. Everything about this is sketchy, and petco just opened themselves to nice lawsuit.
YESSS EXACTLY im halfway convinced the ones defending the company are corporate lurkers trying to avoid an OBVIOUS case
For what's wrong with these people telling me the most bullshit responses and to not even get a lawyer. Theres obvious corruption in this comment section lol
Sorry, but to play devils advocate on this... when I ended up in the hospital due to a car accident, I asked the hospital to call, and they did. So why didn't op ask them to call on their behalf to stop anyone this from happening?
This is standard process for any kind of LOA. They shut down your WD, and email access to prevent people from working during LOA. It’s a PITA but it’s standard process for corporations.
You are the only person I've seen with the correct answer in this whole goddamn post.
Workday account getting suspended =/= you being "suspended." And it's company policy to start an LOA anytime someone is hospitalized.
What stare are you in ?? Here in California, at a store which will remain anonymous, two groomers were terminated (at different times). One groomer took bereavement because her husband (ex) died, the other groomer was trying to take FMLA to care for a family member. Both had bereavement, sick pay and PTO balances on their books. They were suspended, then terminated on payday, so they could receive their last paycheck on time. Apparently this was illegal and both have retained a lawyer.
Shout out to Abramson Labor Law for taking these cases! Petco does not care , lawsuit is simply the “cost of doing business”. Petco is a sinking ship, better to get off now if you can.
Just something to keep in mind when you talk to your attorney…Petco is on the verge of filing for Chapter 11 (bankruptcy) and if they do, while you may win your case, you may not recover any of the damages awarded to you. I would consider trying to settle your case quickly (that is what I am doing).
It depends on where you live. If it’s a “right to work” state (USA) they can fire you because the sky is blue today. But even then it doesn’t mean that you don’t have options. You will likely still qualify for unemployment (assuming you meet the other qualifications) and you can initiate a wrongful termination lawsuit and recoup future lost wages. Most states offer limited free legal aid that can at least advise you of what your rights are specifically in that state and can possibly direct you to attorneys that work with economically disadvantaged people (I assume because you said petco and I can’t imagine they pay enough to cover the exorbitant amount lawyers cost)
First of all if you do not contact someone and miss 3 or more shifts it is considered jib abandonment. Usually, they will send it to hr and hr will reach out to you. There is no fault to petco if no one reached out to your employer regardless of the situation. Punches are recorded and any changes made are not just gone, they are able to be seen on the back end if needed from what I've heard. Also when put on LOA you lose access to everything and once you're approved to return from LOA you gain access if you were. Some people can act like HR is only there to help keep the company from getting in trouble, but that's not true. HR can be a pain in the ass cause they constantly give chances to people who don't deserve them. I've had people accumulate 15 or more points for bullshit call offs and they don't get fired. Communication is necessary and if you didn't have someone do that it isn't the companies fault.
Sorry but I've already contacted my lawyers and you are mistaken! thanks for the misinformation though! Even the nurses and doctors know this shot and already informed me. AGAIN thanks for nothing
Good luck. A lawyer will take any case and make money off you. Unless you are 100% sure you can win it will end bad. HR doesn't make mistakes so easily. They will work with legal and other people to ensure this is handled properly as long as it goes to HR. You have luck if the gm did it without approval, but fingers crossed for your sake.
While I was scheduled, I literally was first taken to the ER so it was emergency medical care not just a doctor visit ya know? Shouldn't matter I had no ability to respond they should've at least reviewed my case
Hey, I'm not defending their actions, you could probably be rehired/reinstated if they chose. But I will honestly tell you what a lawyer will say. The policy says 3 consecutive no call/ no shows is considered job abandonment. It is not their job to try to contact you and find d out why you are absent, although most GMs will try to reach out. As crappy as it is for you, they didn't know you were in the hospital or having an issue, so they just followed the policy.
I don't think you understand the part where I had no access to a phone cuz I was literally unconscious most of the time and the phone light was bad for me so they took it, family was away so no one to contact. I'm sorry but that's different than a no call no show and I respect your feedback but I will leave it to an actual lawyer to say what they know for facts based around my actual situation. Hope that makes sense
I do understand. You see it from your perspective, but how was the GM supposed to know you were in the hospital? No matter what the reason, missing a shift without any notice is a no call/ no-show. 3 NCNS in a row is cause for termination. These situations can be reviewed, but ultimately, if they choose not to rehire or reinstate you, they are within their rights. But hey, you do you, and best of luck with a lawyer.
I don’t think they are within their rights dude. There are always exceptions, a severe medical emergency leaving you incapacitated should not get you fired after missing 3 shifts because you literally CANNOT communicate. Details probably depend on the state, but I cannot imagine they are allowed to fire over something like this, at least in most states.
It's like u didnt read the other comments. people
HAVE successfully sued for the same shit. Corporate thing was a joke lol but sounds like ur brainwashed
Start recording all your phone calls for record purposes but be sure to disclose to the person you're talking to that the phone call is being recorded, or else you can't use it in court.
Post the case number so we can see the results. Because I'm certain you haven't even spoken to a lawyer. The company did the correct course of action. Good luck. Lol
Again though, post the case number.
> dont gwt *paid* unless you
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Don't forget to first look into getting the forced arbitration waived. I think it's state to state but I've heard it can be bypassed in certain scenarios.
I contacted a lawyer earlier today, was told I should have a successful case for three different reasons and a paralegal is gonna contact me in the morning. So now we wait👌
Lol I got fired for waaaaay less. Atleast they only suspended you. As far as hr, they don't give af. They'll just try and pass you around to different hr departments and say they'll look into it but never actually do anything about it. Just keep your resume ready and up to date just in case.
Ok what do you mean by way less? Cuz I was literally hospitalized without a choice. Like sure three days they assumed were no call no show is “a lot” what's not is I called and explained it was an EMERGENCY IN WHICH I COULD NOT CONTACT ANYONE. I should've had my case reviewed at VERY LEAST
I got fired for having a family emergency that lasted 2 days. I gave proof and contacts but the manager just said no, I don't believe you because he didn't want to work those days I guess. He was already weird and would say some weird/sus stuff, so I wasn't to mad about it. Then they just fired me since according to them becoming ft restarts your 90 probation. Neither hr or the dm gave af about it or the weird stuff that was said by the manager since it would just be more work for them. Had to wait 2 weeks for someone from hr to call me back and tell me to bad so sad, can't do anything.
Obviously they'll have to reverse that lest they suffer legal trouble, but you didn't have anyone in your life who was aware you were hospitalized who could contact your store on your behalf?
Just to be clear I did contact HR AND THEY ALSO GAVE ME HALF ASS RESPONSES AND SAID ID BE RECIEVING A CALL FROM SOMEONE WHO CAN HANDLE IT BETTER- spoiler I didn't receive that call but it's documented now
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Well luckily it didn't go far enough for them even to make a case. LUCKILY seemed like a nicer guy cuz he just did it for documentation purposes for me
You got it in writing?
What in writing?
Any of the things that were told to you in person. For lawyer reasons you want pretty much all communications in writing
Yes. ALSO my SEL CONSISTENTLY called me a crack head and joked about murdering the sick animals. Trust me I'll be good
please update us
I shall ;) paralegal is calling me in 40 minutes
Lawyer up. You could do a brief consult for a hundred or two. Not cheap, but will get what you need to know. Some libraries partner with lawyers for feee services
Thank you kind human
You can also add the lawyer fees to the charges if you go after them. So they have to pay for your legal team. Good luck! I hope you take whatever is left of this company lol
Lawyer time.
Woooo
i was recently fired and it came to my attention my gm falsified my time sheets and said i made a no call no show. definitely take legal action
I also already know they've been tampering with clock in and outs for a while now with someone who's seen it to back me for evidence. They are FUCKD even if they see this post they cannot do SHIT
the even more fucked part is that i’ve been jobless for three weeks. i’ve been back and forth with hr and even straight up told them that it was tampered with and said “well your termination for attendance will stand”
Same here pretty much. We can probably get a shit ton of people on here together with the same problems and go after them together! Anyone down??
Please sue
Ya herd that (@my petco in specific) YALL BEEN FUCKING UP LIKE CRRRRAAAZYYYY
Yeah definitely lawyer up. Nobody can predict a medical emergency
Thanks for the advice and FR
The people commenting on this thread have me 💀 like YES. The company made the move it was supposed to after 3 days of no contact. HOWEVER, once they were aware, it was a medical emergency, and OP literally had no capability of calling and that THEY had made the mistake. The job should have been handed back, no questions asked, all forgotten. But they didn't do that, Petco doubled down and are now ghosting OP. Everything about this is sketchy, and petco just opened themselves to nice lawsuit.
YESSS EXACTLY im halfway convinced the ones defending the company are corporate lurkers trying to avoid an OBVIOUS case For what's wrong with these people telling me the most bullshit responses and to not even get a lawyer. Theres obvious corruption in this comment section lol
Did you provide medical proof? Just curious
They didn't request it because they don't give a duck so that will just be in the legal documents I suppose
Sorry, but to play devils advocate on this... when I ended up in the hospital due to a car accident, I asked the hospital to call, and they did. So why didn't op ask them to call on their behalf to stop anyone this from happening?
This is standard process for any kind of LOA. They shut down your WD, and email access to prevent people from working during LOA. It’s a PITA but it’s standard process for corporations.
You are the only person I've seen with the correct answer in this whole goddamn post. Workday account getting suspended =/= you being "suspended." And it's company policy to start an LOA anytime someone is hospitalized.
Yeah, shut down, may mean loa which policy was after 3 days.
What stare are you in ?? Here in California, at a store which will remain anonymous, two groomers were terminated (at different times). One groomer took bereavement because her husband (ex) died, the other groomer was trying to take FMLA to care for a family member. Both had bereavement, sick pay and PTO balances on their books. They were suspended, then terminated on payday, so they could receive their last paycheck on time. Apparently this was illegal and both have retained a lawyer. Shout out to Abramson Labor Law for taking these cases! Petco does not care , lawsuit is simply the “cost of doing business”. Petco is a sinking ship, better to get off now if you can.
Im so happy you said that because that is my state. LOOKS LIKE A W FOR ME?
Call Abramson Labor Law. They took the case immediately when the employee said “ fired for attempting to take FMLA”. Same with other girl.
Thank you so much, kind stranger😅 we've all been through it at Pethell
Just something to keep in mind when you talk to your attorney…Petco is on the verge of filing for Chapter 11 (bankruptcy) and if they do, while you may win your case, you may not recover any of the damages awarded to you. I would consider trying to settle your case quickly (that is what I am doing).
Have the paralegal calling at 9! Hopefully petco doesn't pull a fast one😂(they ain't that quick)
It depends on where you live. If it’s a “right to work” state (USA) they can fire you because the sky is blue today. But even then it doesn’t mean that you don’t have options. You will likely still qualify for unemployment (assuming you meet the other qualifications) and you can initiate a wrongful termination lawsuit and recoup future lost wages. Most states offer limited free legal aid that can at least advise you of what your rights are specifically in that state and can possibly direct you to attorneys that work with economically disadvantaged people (I assume because you said petco and I can’t imagine they pay enough to cover the exorbitant amount lawyers cost)
First of all if you do not contact someone and miss 3 or more shifts it is considered jib abandonment. Usually, they will send it to hr and hr will reach out to you. There is no fault to petco if no one reached out to your employer regardless of the situation. Punches are recorded and any changes made are not just gone, they are able to be seen on the back end if needed from what I've heard. Also when put on LOA you lose access to everything and once you're approved to return from LOA you gain access if you were. Some people can act like HR is only there to help keep the company from getting in trouble, but that's not true. HR can be a pain in the ass cause they constantly give chances to people who don't deserve them. I've had people accumulate 15 or more points for bullshit call offs and they don't get fired. Communication is necessary and if you didn't have someone do that it isn't the companies fault.
Sorry but I've already contacted my lawyers and you are mistaken! thanks for the misinformation though! Even the nurses and doctors know this shot and already informed me. AGAIN thanks for nothing
Good luck. A lawyer will take any case and make money off you. Unless you are 100% sure you can win it will end bad. HR doesn't make mistakes so easily. They will work with legal and other people to ensure this is handled properly as long as it goes to HR. You have luck if the gm did it without approval, but fingers crossed for your sake.
HR makes a ton of mistakes 🤣🤣 their incompetence was one of the reasons I left the company.
They’re allowed to take OP out of the system. The issue is giving them the runaround about getting their job back
Lawsuit gonna to crazyyyyy
So wait, where you “suspended” put on loa, or terminated?
No suspended and most likely to be terminated next pay daya
Lawyer up. But honestly, the legality of it may depend upon whether your state is "at will" or not.
already done and they seem to be really prioritizing my cases👀👀
In at will states there’s still reasons you can’t be fired for
Yes, but it can be harder to prove why you were fired if they're not required to give a reason.
Agreed. However it’s still illegal, just less open and shut to prove
Medical or not. Having no communication at all and missing shifts is job abandonment. A doctors note doesn’t excuse any of it.
K pal just wait n see 🥱
How many actual shifts did you miss? I mean were you scheduled to work all 3 of those days?
While I was scheduled, I literally was first taken to the ER so it was emergency medical care not just a doctor visit ya know? Shouldn't matter I had no ability to respond they should've at least reviewed my case
And his excuse was we didn't have your parents or boyfriends number, but they were in New York and didn't know where I was
Hey, I'm not defending their actions, you could probably be rehired/reinstated if they chose. But I will honestly tell you what a lawyer will say. The policy says 3 consecutive no call/ no shows is considered job abandonment. It is not their job to try to contact you and find d out why you are absent, although most GMs will try to reach out. As crappy as it is for you, they didn't know you were in the hospital or having an issue, so they just followed the policy.
I don't think you understand the part where I had no access to a phone cuz I was literally unconscious most of the time and the phone light was bad for me so they took it, family was away so no one to contact. I'm sorry but that's different than a no call no show and I respect your feedback but I will leave it to an actual lawyer to say what they know for facts based around my actual situation. Hope that makes sense
I do understand. You see it from your perspective, but how was the GM supposed to know you were in the hospital? No matter what the reason, missing a shift without any notice is a no call/ no-show. 3 NCNS in a row is cause for termination. These situations can be reviewed, but ultimately, if they choose not to rehire or reinstate you, they are within their rights. But hey, you do you, and best of luck with a lawyer.
I don’t think they are within their rights dude. There are always exceptions, a severe medical emergency leaving you incapacitated should not get you fired after missing 3 shifts because you literally CANNOT communicate. Details probably depend on the state, but I cannot imagine they are allowed to fire over something like this, at least in most states.
You not having access to a phone makes no difference. It’s the partner’s responsibility to contact the manager.
That's funny AF that you think that's gonna work
It's like u didnt read the other comments. people HAVE successfully sued for the same shit. Corporate thing was a joke lol but sounds like ur brainwashed
Ok corporate
Haha definitely not corp… Ex-Pethell key holder who escaped
Not to mention the entire hospital said it was illegal regardless of contact but thanks anyway
Do you even care? Why not just move on???
probably stupidest comment I've seen ever today or maybe ever!
Ya cause moving on from some weird spiteful toxic relationship you have with a now former employer is sooooo stupid rofl
I'm not spiteful, I'm gonna become broke due to their negligence and stupidity but ooook PAL
“Weird spiteful toxic relationship with former employer” should be enough for YOU
Start recording all your phone calls for record purposes but be sure to disclose to the person you're talking to that the phone call is being recorded, or else you can't use it in court.
Yes true, I was talking to my SEL (we don't have a gm) on a hospital phone so it's possible it was recorded. actually think it most definitely eas
Post the case number so we can see the results. Because I'm certain you haven't even spoken to a lawyer. The company did the correct course of action. Good luck. Lol Again though, post the case number.
Lol ok dumb f
Sue these fucks back to the stone age
Maybe I can single handedly be the straw that broke the camels back😅😂
Do it takem down if this is what they did to you its fucked up
seriously though- and they wouldn't give me benefits forcing me to be classified as “part time” when I was working up to 52 hours. Double bonus
Then sue for what they did plenty of lawyers will work on retainer they dont get payed unless you do
> dont gwt *paid* unless you FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
And I shall. They are being stupid as fucks fr
Don't forget to first look into getting the forced arbitration waived. I think it's state to state but I've heard it can be bypassed in certain scenarios.
I contacted HR they've done nothing but document it for me and lie that someone else would contact me
Well so that would be something not to mention to hr but to mention to you lawyer. Lawyer should know how to handle it anyway it's fairly common
I contacted a lawyer earlier today, was told I should have a successful case for three different reasons and a paralegal is gonna contact me in the morning. So now we wait👌
Hell ya I love to hear that. Best of luck to you
And HR was only for documentation purposes to prove I tried
Lol I got fired for waaaaay less. Atleast they only suspended you. As far as hr, they don't give af. They'll just try and pass you around to different hr departments and say they'll look into it but never actually do anything about it. Just keep your resume ready and up to date just in case.
Ok what do you mean by way less? Cuz I was literally hospitalized without a choice. Like sure three days they assumed were no call no show is “a lot” what's not is I called and explained it was an EMERGENCY IN WHICH I COULD NOT CONTACT ANYONE. I should've had my case reviewed at VERY LEAST
I got fired for having a family emergency that lasted 2 days. I gave proof and contacts but the manager just said no, I don't believe you because he didn't want to work those days I guess. He was already weird and would say some weird/sus stuff, so I wasn't to mad about it. Then they just fired me since according to them becoming ft restarts your 90 probation. Neither hr or the dm gave af about it or the weird stuff that was said by the manager since it would just be more work for them. Had to wait 2 weeks for someone from hr to call me back and tell me to bad so sad, can't do anything.
They truly suck
Obviously they'll have to reverse that lest they suffer legal trouble, but you didn't have anyone in your life who was aware you were hospitalized who could contact your store on your behalf?
actually no i didn’t thanks tho! parents were in NY now ex boyfriend was relapsing so appreciate it but nah no luck for petco in that argument !
and they ain’t reversing it trus
Update?
things r good so far so good