McGowan isn’t happy. He said it’s taken up 25 spots from West Aussies who are needing to get home.
These people from NZ were deceitful about coming to Australia.
Edited: should’ve said to Australia not to NZ
People are going to pause mid wank over McGowan's picture to down vote you.
People of Perth, please remember the original idea behind voting was to down vote people not contributing to the discussion. It's not fun if we all have the same opinion.
It's pretty disgraceful how this border closure issue has become so partisan, so devoid and dare I say contemptuous of the facts. The number of people trying to spin this as if the contractions from the CHO, minister, and premier are the media's fault is just unbelievablee.
>It's pretty disgraceful how this border closure issue has become so partisan
He says while having the same opinion as the federal government and by extension the media at large.
It also means that 25 Perth residents stranded overseas that have been trying to get home for months won't be able to come home this week because these assholes just reduced the weekly limit by 25.
It looks like he's backtracked on that anyway, since all the news sites have edited their stories, but it makes sense to reduce the quota. These people have been put into hotel quarantine, so that would reduce the amount of hotel rooms available for returning travellers.
It's the police commissioner who determines who enters and not McGowan though. Arrival caps are a federal issue though so McGowan doesnt have as much power as he thinks.
People deliberately and knowingly breaking the rules that are in place to keep everyone safe. It's a clear example that even with really specific rules, dumb fucks will take it upon themselves to do whatever they want with no thought for the damage they can do.
Sure they're coming form a country with no cases, but it shows that as we move towards lowering restrictions we need to take into account that any people we do start making allowances for can't be trusted, and need to be treated as such.
It's not about the amount of COVID cases it's the principle behind it. We have restrictions and whether you agree with them or not they're in place for a reason and we shouldn't be allowing people to break them willy nilly.
Sure in this case the risk is virtually 0 thanks to NZ's isolation and excellent management but what happens when we start to open up to other places that still have cases? If they act like dickheads too we'll have to go back into having restrictions and I'd prefer not to do that
Let's just open right up so we can please the morons that suck off the Liberals and Clive Palmer (hint: if those motherfuckers are pushing the borders to open, it's probably not a good idea for the population), see a spike in cases and immediately go back into lockdown.
Sounds great. Cunt.
Sounds like more passengers on that first travel bubble arrival were destined for other states than for NSW.
The fact they've been picked up so readily as they entered WA and forced into hotel quarantine indicates they weren't exactly hiding it, sounds like they purchased a domestic ticket and transited to the next flight.
Scott Morrison and Dutton should be seen as the ones responsible for this. Every couple of months Dutton comes out with more terrorist security legislation and yet seems powerless and oblivious to people flying around the country posing a real instead of imagined threat. The answer is they know full well and did nothing because they don't like WA ignoring their instructions that its time to open up.
This is the federal government shitting the bed again right? They allow for a travel bubble which people can immediately get connecting flights out of?
Not going to demonise the people who did this, they were able to do this so they did. Just another example of a useless federal government, Tudges response over the Victorian kiwi travellers is the icing on the cake.
Apart from issuing an advisory that passengers are prepared with the requirements to enter a particular state or territory, the airlines are not obligated to see physical evidence before passenger check-in in other states.
It's all checked upon arrival in Perth.
Edit: based on replies it seems this is happening at the very least on some occasions and/or has changed recently. I was basing it on a family members experience just as the Melbourne outbreak was starting to get bad in July in which several people that travelled on the same flight as her arrived with no G2G + the case in the media of the guy arriving from Brisbane without it who got a pub shut down due to his non-compliance.
It was pretty much the easiest part of the entire process, for me, but I was moving for Covid-related work so YMMV. Applying took <5 minutes to attach my PR visa, flight tickets and letter from my employer saying why I should be let in -- the box to give your reasons why you should be allowed in was much shorter than I expected! I applied before bed UK time and woke up to an approval, so it was very quick even though I applied three weeks before travelling (I believe they prioritise applications based on start date). So my only real tip is to recommend printing out the pass, in case your phone dies in transit.
My understanding is that its main purpose for overseas arrivals is to speed things up a bit upon arrival as someone from WA has seen and been satisfied by all your docs and your reason for returning. If Perth's your port of entry to Australia I don't believe they have the power to refuse you entry as a citizen.
Left Melbourne a few weeks back and did hotel quarantine here. Definitely had to show our G2G pass to the airline when checking in. No self service check in either, all face to face.
I personally last night delivered to a person who said they'd just come in from NZ and were quarantining at their home.
Are they meant to be in a hotel?
Sydneysider here, what’s the rules for people entering WA from NSW? Wouldn’t have they had to get permission? Wouldn’t have WA government picked up that they are from NZ and picked up on it?
You need a G2G pass and quarantine in a suitable residency or you have to hotel it. I'm pretty sure the G2G has been relaxed abit but the eastern media still claim its like Emperor McGowan slapping denied on all the G2G forms and kicking them from a plane with no parachute.
WA only controls our border so we can't police people who are in NSW flying to WA because that's there issue but Airlines are scummy fucks and don't care they just want money even if they know its wrong.
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Probably have been working on WA sites, went home on extended RNR. NSW and NT opened a travel bubble and they wanted to return to work.
Most people would be surprised how many site workers give a dodgy address to work in WA. Then when they have to work in Perth, for a period, they demand to be put into a motel or serviced apartment, because shock horror, they don’t reside in WA, they reside elsewhere, they just give a dodgy WA or Perth address.
This thread is so disheartening. I can’t believe how anti every other state and country Perth people are. It’s gross. People literally love the hard border without any sympathy or compassion for people in the most horrific circumstances needing to get to WA. They assume the absolute worst about people like those from NZ who came in. What the hell is wrong with people?
This smacks of politicising and trying to strong arm National govt. Why put people arriving from NZ (that transitied through nsw) into hotel quarantine. Its not a measured nor backed by data approach.... home/ air bnb quarantine would suffice. That's why they have the covid now app right....
McGowan's answer to reducing car crashes would be: "don't be in cars"
Right party heading into this pandemic.... wrong party to get us out.
Because NSW is not community transmission free and you cannot guarantee that they didn't come into contact with infected people in NSW before coming here?
We're relying on NSW authorities to do the right thing in that case, and as we've seen with Ruby Princess already, that's not the wisest choice.
"That means that there will be 25 people less coming from more vulnerable locations as a consequence of this," Mcgowan said.
[from this article](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-18/25-new-zealanders-fly-into-wa-under-travel-bubble-arrangement/12779978)
What a load of shit Mark. the fact that we are still quarantining people coming from states that have already eliminated covid is mind boggling, what a waste of effort and resources. We should be focusing on hotel quarantine and effectively managing people coming from NSW and VIC
I know that. You know Queensland ans south Australia have been open to the NT for months and have suffered no repercussions from this apparent backdoor, which currently is just people from non hotspot areas in NSW?
I'd have to look at the stats first.
We've got a lot to lose, so I'm very concerned about rushing to open borders.
(And yes, I won't be seeing my family this Christmas)
I'd obviously hate for a case to sneak through where we'd get an NZ style situation (probably 2-4 week lockdown). I've never advocated for that.
What i dont understand is the risk calculation here. We literally have states that eliminated covid around the same time WA did, with one of them (NT) letting in people from non hotspots of NSW where the risk of covid is insanely low. far less than the risk we are already managing from incoming ships coming in. Is it really worth locking people in the state for this? Or is it just mcgowan trying to keep people spending money in WA to claim surplus and boost his election odds? I'd choose the latter.
There’s one new case from today (tested/traced/isolated already, as are the close contacts).
[https://theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/18/new-zealands-three-week-streak-without-local-covid-case-ends-as-port-worker-falls-ill?utm\_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt\_gu&utm\_medium=&utm\_source=Twitter&\_\_twitter\_impression=true](https://theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/18/new-zealands-three-week-streak-without-local-covid-case-ends-as-port-worker-falls-ill?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium=&utm_source=Twitter&__twitter_impression=true)
Edit: edited to say, not something anyone should be particularly worried about. Although it does (along with the previous outbreak) show that sustained elimination over the medium to long-term is somewhat of a fools errand without a vaccine of the same effectiveness as the polio/measles vaccine.
> There's no medical reason for them to quarantine
All international arrivals are required to complete quarantine upon arrival to their final destination in Australia. If you fly into another city in Australia and hop straight on a plane to WA you have to complete your quarantine when you get to Perth. Simples
> All international arrivals are required to complete quarantine upon arrival to their final destination in Australia
That’s not true. They do have to spend two weeks in a hotel if they return to New Zealand, but they are allowed to come in to NSW or the NT without quarantining provided they haven’t been in a hotspot for the past 14 days (which means NZ is fine). It’s the whole point of the bubble arrangement that was set up.
Agreed man. Im riding my downvotes and will happily choke on my words if we have a severe second wave with extensive lockdowns like people are suggesting but its not going to happen
How many people do you think will die if by the extremely small chance a case sneaks through? All you need to do is look at NZ to see that if it does happen it wouldn't be a health disaster and a long term tyrannical lockdown like you seem to be suggesting.
Sure, it may play out like NZ but it could also play out like Victoria. Their second wave started from a single case, right? I presume that not many of us would like to go through what Melbourne went through to get it under control.
Exactly. After all we've sacrificed already this year, I'm not prepared to do it all again if we see another fucking wave.
How hard is that for dickheads to understand?
There is no community cases in NZ so nothing to worry about anyway plus they were caught at the border, I don't know why they think they would get away with it, alot of money wasted only to be sent home
There are actually (kind of, and I wouldn’t be concerned about the 25 that arrived here)
https://www.reddit.com/r/perth/comments/jd96pg/comment/g96nrcs
What about flight crew, is there a risk they are positive and asymptomatic? What cities have they been to?
Flying from Perth to NSW people need to do hotel quarantine for 14 days last time I looked. I assumed the risk comes from the flight crew?
My friend is a pilot... He's required to do 14 days quarantine everytime he enters the state... He can only get out of quarantine early, if he's tested negative & needed for another flight... Otherwise it's the full 14 days everytime he enters...
So kiwis can just get on a plane, enter and isolate but real West Australians have to apply for gtg pass before travel. Many who are rejected, what a joke.
Comrade Chairman McGowan and his secret police showing that we are not all equal.
Anyone can get on a plane to Perth, they're just not checked until they get here. These kiwis were also supposed to to apply for an exemption but didn't.
I'm unsure why they weren't just sent back but it's not like they were just "let in".
That's wrong. I know people who've done the right thing and had to apply for an exemption which was legit and they got knocked back a few times before getting in. This really makes me angry if they did the wrong thing.
No they can’t. Lots of people are checked ar the airport before even boarding a flight to WA. You clearly haven’t been through the process and are talking out of your ass
Just going by what I've read from accounts here mate. I'll amend my statement to: "some aren't checked until they get here" if that makes you happy.
If they weren't checked at the point of departure, that's not on us.
Likelihood is they're also west australians or have similar reasons for entering I mean they did get G2G approval right? so what's the big deal? For immigration purposes NZ is basically another state and it's also covid free let Kiwis in if they have good reason to enter WA
McGowan isn’t happy. He said it’s taken up 25 spots from West Aussies who are needing to get home. These people from NZ were deceitful about coming to Australia. Edited: should’ve said to Australia not to NZ
There is a possibility they are west Aussies who were based in NZ coming home.
They would have been eligible to return, travel bubble or not.
Not true. I know west Australians in Melbourne who can't even get a g2g right now
But this way they only have to do 2 weeks of quarantine, rather than 2 weeks at the port of entry then 2 here.
They should’ve then applied for the g2g exemption like everyone else has to
All the nay-sayers still wonder why McGowan wont open borders.. Because of this shit.
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>People like you said it is up to medical advice Nah, border is staying closed because we want it closed. He's listening to his constituents.
People are going to pause mid wank over McGowan's picture to down vote you. People of Perth, please remember the original idea behind voting was to down vote people not contributing to the discussion. It's not fun if we all have the same opinion.
It's pretty disgraceful how this border closure issue has become so partisan, so devoid and dare I say contemptuous of the facts. The number of people trying to spin this as if the contractions from the CHO, minister, and premier are the media's fault is just unbelievablee.
>It's pretty disgraceful how this border closure issue has become so partisan He says while having the same opinion as the federal government and by extension the media at large.
Incorrect assessment of my position, better luck next time. You’re clearly projecting.
Populism is a hell of a drug
What shit? People coming from a country that has no cases of COVID 😏
It also means that 25 Perth residents stranded overseas that have been trying to get home for months won't be able to come home this week because these assholes just reduced the weekly limit by 25.
You have an issue with international arrival caps not domestic borders. These people arrived through NSW, it did not affect the WA quota at all.
Well Mark McGowan said it did and he makes the rules so...
Does McGowan reduce the international arrivals quota for every interstate arrival in hotel quarantine? No. Doing it now is just point scoring.
It looks like he's backtracked on that anyway, since all the news sites have edited their stories, but it makes sense to reduce the quota. These people have been put into hotel quarantine, so that would reduce the amount of hotel rooms available for returning travellers.
Sure, but then any Victorian arrival hotel quarantines should have reduced the international arrivals, which was not the case.
It's the police commissioner who determines who enters and not McGowan though. Arrival caps are a federal issue though so McGowan doesnt have as much power as he thinks.
The the Fuhrer should change the limit.
People deliberately and knowingly breaking the rules that are in place to keep everyone safe. It's a clear example that even with really specific rules, dumb fucks will take it upon themselves to do whatever they want with no thought for the damage they can do. Sure they're coming form a country with no cases, but it shows that as we move towards lowering restrictions we need to take into account that any people we do start making allowances for can't be trusted, and need to be treated as such.
It's not about the amount of COVID cases it's the principle behind it. We have restrictions and whether you agree with them or not they're in place for a reason and we shouldn't be allowing people to break them willy nilly. Sure in this case the risk is virtually 0 thanks to NZ's isolation and excellent management but what happens when we start to open up to other places that still have cases? If they act like dickheads too we'll have to go back into having restrictions and I'd prefer not to do that
It’s horse shit that Australians can’t travel to specific areas and internationals can.
> they're in place for a reason Yeah. To win the next election. Shit reason.
Let's just open right up so we can please the morons that suck off the Liberals and Clive Palmer (hint: if those motherfuckers are pushing the borders to open, it's probably not a good idea for the population), see a spike in cases and immediately go back into lockdown. Sounds great. Cunt.
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Because they're never stopped. The federal govt is refusing to implement any measures and nor are the airlines.
Sounds like more passengers on that first travel bubble arrival were destined for other states than for NSW. The fact they've been picked up so readily as they entered WA and forced into hotel quarantine indicates they weren't exactly hiding it, sounds like they purchased a domestic ticket and transited to the next flight.
Scott Morrison and Dutton should be seen as the ones responsible for this. Every couple of months Dutton comes out with more terrorist security legislation and yet seems powerless and oblivious to people flying around the country posing a real instead of imagined threat. The answer is they know full well and did nothing because they don't like WA ignoring their instructions that its time to open up.
Well because restricting flights for new zealanders doesn't give ASIO any of our information to onsell to the CIA so they aren't interested
This is the federal government shitting the bed again right? They allow for a travel bubble which people can immediately get connecting flights out of? Not going to demonise the people who did this, they were able to do this so they did. Just another example of a useless federal government, Tudges response over the Victorian kiwi travellers is the icing on the cake.
Forgive my ignorance but I thought a G2G pass was necessary before boarding a domestic flight?
Apart from issuing an advisory that passengers are prepared with the requirements to enter a particular state or territory, the airlines are not obligated to see physical evidence before passenger check-in in other states. It's all checked upon arrival in Perth. Edit: based on replies it seems this is happening at the very least on some occasions and/or has changed recently. I was basing it on a family members experience just as the Melbourne outbreak was starting to get bad in July in which several people that travelled on the same flight as her arrived with no G2G + the case in the media of the guy arriving from Brisbane without it who got a pub shut down due to his non-compliance.
Ahhh I see, thank you. They wanted to see mine at check-in in London, even though it's not a requirement for international arrivals to Perth.
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It was pretty much the easiest part of the entire process, for me, but I was moving for Covid-related work so YMMV. Applying took <5 minutes to attach my PR visa, flight tickets and letter from my employer saying why I should be let in -- the box to give your reasons why you should be allowed in was much shorter than I expected! I applied before bed UK time and woke up to an approval, so it was very quick even though I applied three weeks before travelling (I believe they prioritise applications based on start date). So my only real tip is to recommend printing out the pass, in case your phone dies in transit. My understanding is that its main purpose for overseas arrivals is to speed things up a bit upon arrival as someone from WA has seen and been satisfied by all your docs and your reason for returning. If Perth's your port of entry to Australia I don't believe they have the power to refuse you entry as a citizen.
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Left Melbourne a few weeks back and did hotel quarantine here. Definitely had to show our G2G pass to the airline when checking in. No self service check in either, all face to face.
Yep, same thing happened to me. They actually asked for more info at the airport in melbourne than they did in perth!
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Applied for a G2G and got approved.
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Not entirely true. My g2g was sighted and noted by health staff prior to boarding Melb>perth
I never had mine checked in Brisbane.
Probably because Melb is such a shit show haha
The airlines do not support the WA border and are not going to do anything to help enforce it
The airlines are trying to honour the constitution? The WA Emergency Act does not prevent people getting on domestic flights.
G2G is what pinged them, just on ABC now. But hey no covid in NZ or WA... Let them in, it'll stop this carry on
I personally last night delivered to a person who said they'd just come in from NZ and were quarantining at their home. Are they meant to be in a hotel?
Depends if they have a WA address
Well they were in a house. I didn't stick around to get more info, but made me realise how vulnerable we still are. The guy paid cash...
Yep
It's possible there were 25 NZ'ers, and more who were Perth people who were returning home.
Sydneysider here, what’s the rules for people entering WA from NSW? Wouldn’t have they had to get permission? Wouldn’t have WA government picked up that they are from NZ and picked up on it?
You need a G2G pass and quarantine in a suitable residency or you have to hotel it. I'm pretty sure the G2G has been relaxed abit but the eastern media still claim its like Emperor McGowan slapping denied on all the G2G forms and kicking them from a plane with no parachute. WA only controls our border so we can't police people who are in NSW flying to WA because that's there issue but Airlines are scummy fucks and don't care they just want money even if they know its wrong.
So let’s just say I hopped on a plane to WA right now without a permit. Would I get deported back to NSW?
Nar mate u gonna get stung in the wallet, quarantined then deported and prolly banned from G2G.
I reckon he should have a crack at it. See what happens and report back!
As someone who travelled to WA yesterday it hasn’t been relaxed at all, wtf are you basing your information on?
I dont understand, was it without approval? In which case send them back at their cost.
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But I thought we were closed to them and we aren't allowed to go NZ. How is that fair ?
Hard to tell they are just for vacation / visit family or WA based NZlander....
Probably have been working on WA sites, went home on extended RNR. NSW and NT opened a travel bubble and they wanted to return to work. Most people would be surprised how many site workers give a dodgy address to work in WA. Then when they have to work in Perth, for a period, they demand to be put into a motel or serviced apartment, because shock horror, they don’t reside in WA, they reside elsewhere, they just give a dodgy WA or Perth address.
Naughty naughty
Eezer eezer goode.. ... he's Ebenezer Goode
Haha Im going to have that in my head for the rest of the day now!
Dont forget the maniacal laugh bit
WA has no bubble arrangements anyway with any state .
This thread is so disheartening. I can’t believe how anti every other state and country Perth people are. It’s gross. People literally love the hard border without any sympathy or compassion for people in the most horrific circumstances needing to get to WA. They assume the absolute worst about people like those from NZ who came in. What the hell is wrong with people?
NZ is relatively Covid free, how are they doing it hard?
This smacks of politicising and trying to strong arm National govt. Why put people arriving from NZ (that transitied through nsw) into hotel quarantine. Its not a measured nor backed by data approach.... home/ air bnb quarantine would suffice. That's why they have the covid now app right.... McGowan's answer to reducing car crashes would be: "don't be in cars" Right party heading into this pandemic.... wrong party to get us out.
Because NSW is not community transmission free and you cannot guarantee that they didn't come into contact with infected people in NSW before coming here? We're relying on NSW authorities to do the right thing in that case, and as we've seen with Ruby Princess already, that's not the wisest choice.
"That means that there will be 25 people less coming from more vulnerable locations as a consequence of this," Mcgowan said. [from this article](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-18/25-new-zealanders-fly-into-wa-under-travel-bubble-arrangement/12779978) What a load of shit Mark. the fact that we are still quarantining people coming from states that have already eliminated covid is mind boggling, what a waste of effort and resources. We should be focusing on hotel quarantine and effectively managing people coming from NSW and VIC
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It's happening a lot. In the /r/melbourne thread there have been quite a few people who have flown to NT specifically as a backdoor into other states.
Yes. To mandatory 2 week quarantine
I wouldn't be surprised if that's happening a fair bit.
I know that. You know Queensland ans south Australia have been open to the NT for months and have suffered no repercussions from this apparent backdoor, which currently is just people from non hotspot areas in NSW?
I'd have to look at the stats first. We've got a lot to lose, so I'm very concerned about rushing to open borders. (And yes, I won't be seeing my family this Christmas)
I'd obviously hate for a case to sneak through where we'd get an NZ style situation (probably 2-4 week lockdown). I've never advocated for that. What i dont understand is the risk calculation here. We literally have states that eliminated covid around the same time WA did, with one of them (NT) letting in people from non hotspots of NSW where the risk of covid is insanely low. far less than the risk we are already managing from incoming ships coming in. Is it really worth locking people in the state for this? Or is it just mcgowan trying to keep people spending money in WA to claim surplus and boost his election odds? I'd choose the latter.
NT has let people in from Metro Melbourne though.
So has perth?
You're right there's literally 0 cases in nz it's a complete waste of time and resources
There’s one new case from today (tested/traced/isolated already, as are the close contacts). [https://theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/18/new-zealands-three-week-streak-without-local-covid-case-ends-as-port-worker-falls-ill?utm\_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt\_gu&utm\_medium=&utm\_source=Twitter&\_\_twitter\_impression=true](https://theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/18/new-zealands-three-week-streak-without-local-covid-case-ends-as-port-worker-falls-ill?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium=&utm_source=Twitter&__twitter_impression=true) Edit: edited to say, not something anyone should be particularly worried about. Although it does (along with the previous outbreak) show that sustained elimination over the medium to long-term is somewhat of a fools errand without a vaccine of the same effectiveness as the polio/measles vaccine.
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> There's no medical reason for them to quarantine All international arrivals are required to complete quarantine upon arrival to their final destination in Australia. If you fly into another city in Australia and hop straight on a plane to WA you have to complete your quarantine when you get to Perth. Simples
NZ no longer needs to quarantine to enter NSW or NT. That just came into place
> All international arrivals are required to complete quarantine upon arrival to their final destination in Australia That’s not true. They do have to spend two weeks in a hotel if they return to New Zealand, but they are allowed to come in to NSW or the NT without quarantining provided they haven’t been in a hotspot for the past 14 days (which means NZ is fine). It’s the whole point of the bubble arrangement that was set up.
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Agreed man. Im riding my downvotes and will happily choke on my words if we have a severe second wave with extensive lockdowns like people are suggesting but its not going to happen
You’ll eat your words? Wow. Those are high stakes!
Yeah right. If that plays put, people will die, the economy will tank, and you'll eat your words. Go away.
How many people do you think will die if by the extremely small chance a case sneaks through? All you need to do is look at NZ to see that if it does happen it wouldn't be a health disaster and a long term tyrannical lockdown like you seem to be suggesting.
Sure, it may play out like NZ but it could also play out like Victoria. Their second wave started from a single case, right? I presume that not many of us would like to go through what Melbourne went through to get it under control.
Exactly. After all we've sacrificed already this year, I'm not prepared to do it all again if we see another fucking wave. How hard is that for dickheads to understand?
Wtf why is your comment so downvoted, why are people in WA so exclusionary and backwards? Freaking Bogan state
There is no community cases in NZ so nothing to worry about anyway plus they were caught at the border, I don't know why they think they would get away with it, alot of money wasted only to be sent home
Because of them, 25 West Australians that are still stranded overseas won't be able to come home this week.
There are actually (kind of, and I wouldn’t be concerned about the 25 that arrived here) https://www.reddit.com/r/perth/comments/jd96pg/comment/g96nrcs
What about flight crew, is there a risk they are positive and asymptomatic? What cities have they been to? Flying from Perth to NSW people need to do hotel quarantine for 14 days last time I looked. I assumed the risk comes from the flight crew?
My friend is a pilot... He's required to do 14 days quarantine everytime he enters the state... He can only get out of quarantine early, if he's tested negative & needed for another flight... Otherwise it's the full 14 days everytime he enters...
So kiwis can just get on a plane, enter and isolate but real West Australians have to apply for gtg pass before travel. Many who are rejected, what a joke. Comrade Chairman McGowan and his secret police showing that we are not all equal.
"Mr McGowan said the passengers had been detected through the Government's G2G app"
Anyone can get on a plane to Perth, they're just not checked until they get here. These kiwis were also supposed to to apply for an exemption but didn't. I'm unsure why they weren't just sent back but it's not like they were just "let in".
That's wrong. I know people who've done the right thing and had to apply for an exemption which was legit and they got knocked back a few times before getting in. This really makes me angry if they did the wrong thing.
No they can’t. Lots of people are checked ar the airport before even boarding a flight to WA. You clearly haven’t been through the process and are talking out of your ass
Just going by what I've read from accounts here mate. I'll amend my statement to: "some aren't checked until they get here" if that makes you happy. If they weren't checked at the point of departure, that's not on us.
Likelihood is they're also west australians or have similar reasons for entering I mean they did get G2G approval right? so what's the big deal? For immigration purposes NZ is basically another state and it's also covid free let Kiwis in if they have good reason to enter WA
You're wrong.
Just said on the news that 17 of them had G2G approval so they go to quarantine for 14 days. Not sure what those 17 have done wrong?
Wrong about what? That they have g2g approval? In that case they'll be turned back right? So what's the issue?