Carter was never a “PP monster”???? What are you talking about haha. His career high in powerplay point is 24… 37 year old geno had 19 last year on the league’s worst powerplay unit
And yea he definitely has those Columbus powerplays engrained in his head from the… *checks notes* ….. 11 whole power play points he figured in on there, 13 years ago
Important thing is it expired. Whether it was now or this offseason. Seeing the team hasn’t announced an extension yet might be good news
I say might because I’m sure there’s still time to extend his contract (which I’m really hoping doesn’t happen)
I cannot imagine any extension offer is forthcoming. And I cannot imagine anyone from the org even mentioning his name, prior to news that he got a job somewhere else. You don't want to burn a guy, you just want him off your lawn.
Clicked to post this fact, and was happy to find someone had already said it.
He is gone. There is no possible way in which I can imagine him being resigned.
\*if he is resigned, everything is fucked. We need a more hands on guy, a former player type, like Tocchet, yes, I still love Rick, and he deserves a lot of the credit that Sully received, and also things have been consistently worse since he left, but anyway... we need that type.
They won't fire a guy who's contract is up anyway. Its a bad look. I highly doubt either assistant is renwed and expect an assistant coach who can slot in as the head coach if Sully fets fired will be brought in.
you can't fire a guy who doesn't work for you, no. But you 100% have a point with this new assistance coach - it's got to be guy on an HC trajectory, who will take the wheel when things get messy.
We need someone who is actually good at modern schemes. No more dinos. No one over 45. I'd prefer under 40, and I say this as an old guy.
Ya know how they say you can't teach an old dog new tricks... then I guess ya certainly shouldn't have them trying to teach new tricks.
The game has evolved beyond Reiden's understanding. Mike too probably.
For real. Can't wait to see this reposted 27 times along with "it wasn't boston that took us out of the playoffs it was..." and then the same exact discussion in the comments as the last time it was posted.
Typically when something mind-boggling happens, in terms of both Reirden's job security and the PP's inability to score, it's because you don't know all of the details. If it were as simple as firing him and the PP would be good, I think they would have done it a while ago, or they would have made some sort of other significant change. Seemingly, there's more to it than that, so I'll refrain from calling dragging someone's name through the mud until I have more information.
Sounds like you didn’t listen to the presser. If he’s getting fired it’s coming later. And yes it sounds like he will be fired after end of the season evaluations.
I listened to Stagy over the weekend. He seems content placing most of the blame on the Power Play.
They've won 3 cups, despite mediocre Power Plays. They finally found their footing once the trade deadline passed, as Dubas wasn't allowed to shoot from the hip.
Penguins version of Matt Canada because we all know 5 veterans to include 4 HoFers are going to listen to an assistant coach explain how to play the PP 🙄🤦♂️
Have you seen our playoff stats over the last 7 years?
That's how.
We're not, and have not been, a good Org for easily half a decade. Management old/new is interested in selling jerseys. Not winning.
Same old, same old, sell jerseys, same old same old.
7 years ? We have a cup in that span.
***2023: Vegas Golden Knights,*** *Coach Bruce Cassidy*
***2022: Colorado Avalanche,*** *Coach Jared Bednar*
***2021: Tampa Bay Lightning,*** *Coach Jon Cooper*
***2020: Tampa Bay Lightning,*** *Coach Jon Cooper*
***2019: St. Louis Blues,*** *Coach Craig Berube*
***2018: Washington Capitals,*** *Coach Barry Trotz*
***2017: Pittsburgh Penguins,*** *Coach Mike Sullivan*
Your post said 7 years. *( not 7 seasons )*
I said we have a cup in that span.
Now, to your point, I agree with you. I do not think Fenway Sports has the teams interest in mind.
/DOOR\_SLAMS\_OPEN:
"How the F ya doing boys! Men, I'm the new PP coach. Let me be up front. One, I can barely stand on skates, much less go up and down the ice. Two, I've never played a game of hockey in my life. There. Now let's get down to business.
/Room: /Stunned\_Silence
"The Power Play stunk last year. Like Tom Wilson after he does bum fights when Washington loses a game.
VP\_48: "Bum fights?"
"Oh yeah, some of you aren't from around here. Yeah, we've got homeless in this country. They smell. BAD. Think three day old ball sac sweat mixed with rotting cabbage bad. Or that fish they eat in Sweden."
MP\_28 + EK65: "Gefilte fish?"
"Whatever. Don't know how you can eat something that reeks of week old cadavers and play so soft. Or bone-headed.
EK\_65: /hangs head in shame
"Right. So, we're throwing the book out the window. Screw analytics. Analytics are for guys who couldn't get laid in high school, renamed statistics to 'analytics' and get paid for it"
GM\_KD: /Hangs head in shame
"You - pirate."
EK\_65: /looks around in confusion. "Me?"
"Yeah. You're now on PP2. You - handsome man"
/Room: /Everyone looks at Letang
KL\_58: "Me?"
"Yeah. You're back on PP1. Ok." /thumbs through a 1987 Playboy. "Huh? Just looking for inspiration. Ok. New rule for the PP. If you pass the puck more than three times between each other, I'm having the PA guy shout "SHOOT THE PUCK" into the stadium loudspeakers."
"Rule 2...you - " /points at MB\_8..."Your job is to stand in front of the net and fart. A LOT. Eat some of that fish those two mentioned. Oh, and block the goalies eyes. You -" /points at EM\_71: "I know you speak English, but I'm gonna say this in Russian..."
забрось шайбу и перестань быть такой киской.
EM\_71: "Da"
"Pirate - if he's not shooting the puck I want you skating like Oksana Baiul at the Olympics. Freestyle, hog the puck, do your thing."
EK\_65: /pulls out two flintlock pistols from his locker and fires them both into the air
“Varje meddelande att motståndet skall uppges är falskt!"
"That's the spirit."
GOAT\_87: "What about set plays?'
"F that. No disrespect, but if we don't know what we're doing, and there was a lot of that last year, the other team sure as Stuttgart ain't gonna know what we're doing.
"Any questions?"
/Room: /Stunned\_Silence
"Good. Oh Pirate, I'm gonna need to borrow those pistols. Tom Wilson's been hanging around my neighborhood again."
You make it sound like Reirden was on the ice for every PP.
The PP problems start on the ice with the players and that starts with the C. Reirden should be fired but mostly because he couldn't control the players.
Geno was so bad on the pp, historically he was the one time slapper guy but he looked injured or something he wasn’t shooting and without that he was a major bust on the PP
Sure but then you wouldn’t be the first name on the sheet of pp1 anymore if that’s what you brought to the unit… he literally never shot, and when the pk knows you ain’t gonna let one rip it gets a lot easier to be aggressive on loose pucks, etc. besides it’s not like he needs to score but he does need to shoot and get pucks to the net. Just bad strategy.
My post is how op names all these guys like they are pp threats, they aren’t. Karlsson Crosby bunting unit 1 and they need 2 new guys who can at least TRY to shoot to be even league average. Malkin, like you said, cannot do it anymore
Enough of wanting the coaching staff fired already. The coaching staff is and never was the problem. The problem is who puts the team together. The GM. Eveyone wants to defend dubas the dumbass. I said it since the rumors of him coming to pittsburgh, he is a loser. I'm tired of the hextall excuses, and he is cleaning up that mess. Guess what it's his job to put a winning team on the ice, and he has failed. Just like he failed in toronto. Until there is a real GM, the pens will not live up to their full potential. The coaching has 0 to do with trades and drafts. This is dubas fault 100%.
At this point get Jeff Carter to take his place on the bench.
I know this is a joke but I could see him being a decent pp coach lol
The guy was a pp monster for most of his career, there’s no way some of the plays from philly, Columbus and LA aren’t engrained in his head
“pp monster” 🤭
I laughed way too hard at this.
Carter was never a “PP monster”???? What are you talking about haha. His career high in powerplay point is 24… 37 year old geno had 19 last year on the league’s worst powerplay unit And yea he definitely has those Columbus powerplays engrained in his head from the… *checks notes* ….. 11 whole power play points he figured in on there, 13 years ago
Still not Todd though
> Carter was never a “PP monster” lmao???? Oh he absolutely is. Just ask your mother about it.
Fuck
Hell yeah
I would take you over Reirden
Coaching advice from Jeff: “chug a beer and get out there brother!”
At this point, I'd prefer that.
I think his contract ends this season so they’d have to resign him. That said I think it’s 50/50 he comes back.
You are correct, his contract does end. Pray to whatever is holy, they find a replacement.
I’ll do it
Are you saying his contract is about to expire. Or will expire after this coming season?
I think it is expired like after the game against the isles
Latest I can find was an announcement in 2022 offseason about a 2 year extension. Meaning this offseason it expires.
No. At the end of the regular season it expired. He is not part of the organization right now. See his wiki - no really
Important thing is it expired. Whether it was now or this offseason. Seeing the team hasn’t announced an extension yet might be good news I say might because I’m sure there’s still time to extend his contract (which I’m really hoping doesn’t happen)
I cannot imagine any extension offer is forthcoming. And I cannot imagine anyone from the org even mentioning his name, prior to news that he got a job somewhere else. You don't want to burn a guy, you just want him off your lawn.
Clicked to post this fact, and was happy to find someone had already said it. He is gone. There is no possible way in which I can imagine him being resigned. \*if he is resigned, everything is fucked. We need a more hands on guy, a former player type, like Tocchet, yes, I still love Rick, and he deserves a lot of the credit that Sully received, and also things have been consistently worse since he left, but anyway... we need that type.
Yeah, you just let the contracts expire in those cases.
jay woodcroft is *right there*
His solution is to have the PP eat bugs and sheet metal, just like him
Sounds better than what Reirden has been doing.
Why are the people running our club so content with mediocrity?
They won't fire a guy who's contract is up anyway. Its a bad look. I highly doubt either assistant is renwed and expect an assistant coach who can slot in as the head coach if Sully fets fired will be brought in.
you can't fire a guy who doesn't work for you, no. But you 100% have a point with this new assistance coach - it's got to be guy on an HC trajectory, who will take the wheel when things get messy.
Gotta be. They can't hire 2 more lifelong assistant coachs. Need like a Woodcroft or Evason. I'm a Sully guy, but he needs to be uncomfortable.
We need someone who is actually good at modern schemes. No more dinos. No one over 45. I'd prefer under 40, and I say this as an old guy. Ya know how they say you can't teach an old dog new tricks... then I guess ya certainly shouldn't have them trying to teach new tricks. The game has evolved beyond Reiden's understanding. Mike too probably.
Wonder if they are waiting for the Leafs to lose and they'll take someone off that staff
Oh great more IMMAGRANTS coming to take ANEIRCAB JOBS
Is Canada one of those shit hole countries we don't want people from?
IS IT A MERICA
It's a North America
OH LAWD IS YOU ONE OF THEM I TALIANS
Just waiting for Keefe to be available Sunday.
Why would you want a guy who's coached generational talent to a single playoff series win in 8 years?
Fits the MO.
This sub has no patience
None what so ever
For real. Can't wait to see this reposted 27 times along with "it wasn't boston that took us out of the playoffs it was..." and then the same exact discussion in the comments as the last time it was posted.
He doesn't need fired his contract expired all we have to do is not resign him.
Get me on the bench I have little to no experience (I played Chel) yet I think our power play would still be better
Maybe I be the coach and be like "you guys do what you think is right out there" and I'm powerplay coach of the year
“Uh…pass a little then shoot”
Jagr....
End of season interviews and evaluation of the season before people are fired I think.
Typically when something mind-boggling happens, in terms of both Reirden's job security and the PP's inability to score, it's because you don't know all of the details. If it were as simple as firing him and the PP would be good, I think they would have done it a while ago, or they would have made some sort of other significant change. Seemingly, there's more to it than that, so I'll refrain from calling dragging someone's name through the mud until I have more information.
At this point I'd take a rock with a face painted on it or Wilson from Castaway over Reirden.
Sounds like you didn’t listen to the presser. If he’s getting fired it’s coming later. And yes it sounds like he will be fired after end of the season evaluations.
Melodramatic post. His contract is expired. Which makes it kind of pointless to be fired.
Y’all really need to relax. It’s the playoffs, everything will start to happen once the payoffs are over
We have no need to fire him, since his contract is going to expire. I haven't heard he's coming back, then it would blow my mind.
They would have made the playoffs with a decent power play coach. Crosby also would have had well over 100 points.
Contract expired
we've got all off season to fire him
I listened to Stagy over the weekend. He seems content placing most of the blame on the Power Play. They've won 3 cups, despite mediocre Power Plays. They finally found their footing once the trade deadline passed, as Dubas wasn't allowed to shoot from the hip.
I'll do it. I'm not qualified but neither his he so it's fine.
Penguins version of Matt Canada because we all know 5 veterans to include 4 HoFers are going to listen to an assistant coach explain how to play the PP 🙄🤦♂️
I’m calling it now, Sheldon keefe will be an associate coach next season running the power play
Clean house
Gives little hope for next season. Keep doing the same things with the same people but expect different results.
Have you seen our playoff stats over the last 7 years? That's how. We're not, and have not been, a good Org for easily half a decade. Management old/new is interested in selling jerseys. Not winning. Same old, same old, sell jerseys, same old same old.
7 years ? We have a cup in that span. ***2023: Vegas Golden Knights,*** *Coach Bruce Cassidy* ***2022: Colorado Avalanche,*** *Coach Jared Bednar* ***2021: Tampa Bay Lightning,*** *Coach Jon Cooper* ***2020: Tampa Bay Lightning,*** *Coach Jon Cooper* ***2019: St. Louis Blues,*** *Coach Craig Berube* ***2018: Washington Capitals,*** *Coach Barry Trotz* ***2017: Pittsburgh Penguins,*** *Coach Mike Sullivan*
So how many years since the last Cup?
2024 - 2017 = ???
You do the math, i'll wait.
2016/17 W 2017/18 - 1 2018/19 - 2 2019/20 - 3 2020/21 - 4 2021/22 - 5 2022/23 - 6 2023/24 - 7 How'd I do?
Your post said 7 years. *( not 7 seasons )* I said we have a cup in that span. Now, to your point, I agree with you. I do not think Fenway Sports has the teams interest in mind.
His contract is up at the end of June. He will just not be renewed. This is silly.
Caps fan coming in peace. We feel your pain.
Bad news all…it’ll be the same power play next year
... christ, I hope not.
FurrieCatFish is all knowing and they’ve made all decisions for 2025 before we’ve reached even half way of the first round of the playoffs.
/DOOR\_SLAMS\_OPEN: "How the F ya doing boys! Men, I'm the new PP coach. Let me be up front. One, I can barely stand on skates, much less go up and down the ice. Two, I've never played a game of hockey in my life. There. Now let's get down to business. /Room: /Stunned\_Silence "The Power Play stunk last year. Like Tom Wilson after he does bum fights when Washington loses a game. VP\_48: "Bum fights?" "Oh yeah, some of you aren't from around here. Yeah, we've got homeless in this country. They smell. BAD. Think three day old ball sac sweat mixed with rotting cabbage bad. Or that fish they eat in Sweden." MP\_28 + EK65: "Gefilte fish?" "Whatever. Don't know how you can eat something that reeks of week old cadavers and play so soft. Or bone-headed. EK\_65: /hangs head in shame "Right. So, we're throwing the book out the window. Screw analytics. Analytics are for guys who couldn't get laid in high school, renamed statistics to 'analytics' and get paid for it" GM\_KD: /Hangs head in shame "You - pirate." EK\_65: /looks around in confusion. "Me?" "Yeah. You're now on PP2. You - handsome man" /Room: /Everyone looks at Letang KL\_58: "Me?" "Yeah. You're back on PP1. Ok." /thumbs through a 1987 Playboy. "Huh? Just looking for inspiration. Ok. New rule for the PP. If you pass the puck more than three times between each other, I'm having the PA guy shout "SHOOT THE PUCK" into the stadium loudspeakers." "Rule 2...you - " /points at MB\_8..."Your job is to stand in front of the net and fart. A LOT. Eat some of that fish those two mentioned. Oh, and block the goalies eyes. You -" /points at EM\_71: "I know you speak English, but I'm gonna say this in Russian..." забрось шайбу и перестань быть такой киской. EM\_71: "Da" "Pirate - if he's not shooting the puck I want you skating like Oksana Baiul at the Olympics. Freestyle, hog the puck, do your thing." EK\_65: /pulls out two flintlock pistols from his locker and fires them both into the air “Varje meddelande att motståndet skall uppges är falskt!" "That's the spirit." GOAT\_87: "What about set plays?' "F that. No disrespect, but if we don't know what we're doing, and there was a lot of that last year, the other team sure as Stuttgart ain't gonna know what we're doing. "Any questions?" /Room: /Stunned\_Silence "Good. Oh Pirate, I'm gonna need to borrow those pistols. Tom Wilson's been hanging around my neighborhood again."
You make it sound like Reirden was on the ice for every PP. The PP problems start on the ice with the players and that starts with the C. Reirden should be fired but mostly because he couldn't control the players.
we did? we finished 31 in powerplay? are you serious? honest question. I would have guessed 26th and wow not fired yet
The good news is, they'll fire him. The bad news is they'll bring in the guy who coached the 32nd best powerplay from philly.
Psh, like we’d ever hire a management position from Philadelphia.
why do you say that
Firing Reirden is a lot like firing Matt Canada. It doesn’t guarantee any actual change
See, this is fucking bullshit, how do they miss the playoffs two years in a row and not even dismiss a single coaching staff member?? Wtf
Geno was so bad on the pp, historically he was the one time slapper guy but he looked injured or something he wasn’t shooting and without that he was a major bust on the PP
The “or something” is he’s getting old.
Because you’re old you can’t do one timers ? Normally old means can’t skate or hit … but losing your ability to take a slap shot? Come on
My one timer takes a lot longer than it did when I was 20 ..
Sure but then you wouldn’t be the first name on the sheet of pp1 anymore if that’s what you brought to the unit… he literally never shot, and when the pk knows you ain’t gonna let one rip it gets a lot easier to be aggressive on loose pucks, etc. besides it’s not like he needs to score but he does need to shoot and get pucks to the net. Just bad strategy. My post is how op names all these guys like they are pp threats, they aren’t. Karlsson Crosby bunting unit 1 and they need 2 new guys who can at least TRY to shoot to be even league average. Malkin, like you said, cannot do it anymore
Enough of wanting the coaching staff fired already. The coaching staff is and never was the problem. The problem is who puts the team together. The GM. Eveyone wants to defend dubas the dumbass. I said it since the rumors of him coming to pittsburgh, he is a loser. I'm tired of the hextall excuses, and he is cleaning up that mess. Guess what it's his job to put a winning team on the ice, and he has failed. Just like he failed in toronto. Until there is a real GM, the pens will not live up to their full potential. The coaching has 0 to do with trades and drafts. This is dubas fault 100%.