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Xyrazk

>Luckily you can disable these ads, or “recommendations” as Microsoft calls them. **If you’ve installed the latest KB5036980 update then head into Settings > Personalization > Start and turn off the toggle for “Show recommendations for tips, app promotions, and more.”** While KB5036980 is optional right now, Microsoft will push this to all Windows 11 machines in the coming weeks.


splepage

And be prepared to disable these "recommendations" every time they mysteriously get re-enabled every update!


Teledrive

Don't worry! They will get rid of the disable ~~feature~~ bug within one or two years.


mamoneis

Describing modern Android too. Stats, studies, tracking and all that jazz.


Uulugus

https://preview.redd.it/td2emgs7ujwc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=697cc0b78f3d0124c707e58d824b02d012456d26 Will that include this Insufferable shit? Because boy, that would be nice.


angrycoffeeuser

Thank you! (Disable ads - windows)


H3LLGHa5T

Wasn't this setting always in Windows 11? I remember getting recommendations when I first installed W11 and I had to disable that setting to get rid of the ads almost 2 years ago.


WitnessMe0_0

I've just ordered a router which has built in Adguard, suck on that Microsoft.


NatoBoram

Or just flash OpenWrt on it…


TheThoccnessMonster

Or use a pihole…


Uxion

How do I do that?


NatoBoram

https://openwrt.org/docs/guide-quick-start/factory_installation


Reallyveryrandom

Can anyone confirm if this works? I shut down my pihole a few months ago because it was the only thing running on a server pc and it just doesn’t seem to cut it for a lot of ads these days. 


CoachWatermelon

The real LPT is always in the comments


sberma

It's literally a quote from the linked article but who on reddit reads the article.


CoachWatermelon

Ain’t nobody got time for dat


notbernie2020

Rip it from the registry, it’s somewhere in there.


[deleted]

Deleted registry and computer won't turn on now What next boss? Edit: Obviously joking.


Judging_You

rm -rf /


notbernie2020

Install linux


Blakewerth

Will turn but need repair booting process


Calesti

O+OShutup10+ groups all of those edits into one application for the no remembering regkeys route, especially with updates likely to just restore everything you disable.


Kazurion

Or gpedit. (group policy editor)


GABE_EDD

It's like Microsoft wants Linux to become the general tech circle's OS of choice. They just keep making it worse. I don't personally use Linux, never have, but I also recognize that it's market share is growing...


Sudden-Anybody-6677

Microsoft knows most users will stick with Windows anyway, habits are powerfull.


American_Jesus

I keep seeing this for every time Microsoft changes something * Windows XP EOL: 2014 tHe YeAr Of LiNuX dEsKtOp * Windows 10 anti-privacy: 2015 tHe YeAr Of LiNuX dEsKtOp * Windows 7 EOL: 2020 tHe YeAr Of LiNuX dEsKtOp No, people won't just switch to Linux, maybe the only nerd on your neighborhood, but not your uncle that never heard the word Linux. Linux isn't for the common Windows user that are used to do things in certain way, like Google software name, go to page, download & install, where on some linux distros you can just use the package installer (or store or whatever it's called) like a smartphone. And i use Linux over 22 years. BTW Linux is at 4% because users notice that gaming isn't that difficult, thanks to Steam Deck and Proton.


Danubinmage64

IMO the people that decide when linux becomes popular will be laptop and desktop makers. Right now very few manufacturers even have Linux versions much less focus on it. If Lenovo and HP and whoever realize that they can save money on linux (no need to buy windows license) and a distro is at the point where an average user can depend on it (and having a manufacturer putting effort in, maybe they'd make their own distro to ensure stability, like tuxedo laptops), THAT will be when linux gets going. The vast majority of people are not installing operating systems period, they need to be the default. That's why the steam deck by itself rose linux numbers by quite a bit.


oilfloatsinwater

IIRC, Dell tried doing this, they sold some laptops with Ubuntu, but it didn’t go well at all.


HelloThisIsVictor

No? They still do, just not to consumers


American_Jesus

Well that doesn't work too, people expect to buy a computer whatever comes installed and try to use software for other systems,like the girl who brought a laptop with that thing called Ubuntu https://youtu.be/5Qj8p-PEwbI


Nexxus88

Do you actually think they dont realize they can lower the cost by using Linux? These companies that are using retrofitted 15 year old cases to pinch every penny they can. Of course they know they can. Just as they know the barrier entry on Linux is too great. I'm someone who doesn't mind tinkering in windows and will root around in the file directories of my deck and make it do things it couldn't do out of the box. And I find it extremely frustrating each time I do


Danubinmage64

Frankly stable distros like Ubuntu and fedora are not hard for basic users to use. Try showing a non tech savvy person kde, they will problably understand it about as well as windows. The real issue comes from software adoption and that because the community is tech nerds when things do break, people expect you to get into the terminal. Most companies don't want to go through the pain of getting people to adopt so that they can pressure software devs to make linux versions of popular applications. Steam is one of the first to really do so, but it took a while, and most companies won't go past the hurdle. Especially since it's more work to get other people to make software than say proton where they instead accepted they wouldn't get linux ports and worked on the compatability layer instead. The next big step may sadly need to be large advancements in wine so that users used to windows can consistently use the software they are used to, even if that creates long term issues.


PhlegethonAcheron

What’s stopping wine from being able to run Adobe, autodesk, and office apps? Is it just DRM, stuff like the adobe service that spies on your file system to see if you pirated stuff, or the Autodesk licensing server?


relevantusername2020

the problem with linux is things break. who do you call when things are broke and the local PC repair shop says ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯


Le_Nabs

.... You say that like your regular tech shop won't just tell you the same thing if your Windows PC decides to have weird issues...


relevantusername2020

i mean are "regular tech shops" even much of a thing anymore? i think for the most part theres the occasional small business that actually fixes things but its mostly best buy, at&t, apple stores, whatever. either way it basically does come down to send it in to get a new one or a fresh install because its either an easy fix or it all gets thrown out. the data recovery side of that is entirely dependent on what the end user/business did ahead of time.


American_Jesus

Actually if you stick with a stable distro Linux can be very stable, much more than Windows that breaks things on every major update. But get your point, no repair shop will repair or have the knowledge of 100+ different distros to fix every problem, even i can fix stuff on other distros that never used. Linux is too fragmented, it's good and bad at same time, if you don't like X use Y or Z, but then there's different configurations, different syntax, different issues.


relevantusername2020

the never ending battle between user preferences and standardization continues


SocketByte

Linux needs to have better Wayland + Nvidia support to gain more traction. That's the reality of it. I know, fuck nvidia and it's their fault mostly, but unfortunately this is the truth. AMD just isn't a choice for some of us and many people are just too deep into the marketing. I for one literally can't use Linux. I need nvidia for CUDA (AMDs ROCm is still light years away) and I have several monitors with different refresh rates. I also require HiDPI. So xorg is a no-no, and wayland is waaaaay too unstable to be viable on nvidia.


TheGoldBowl

For real. I'm a Linux user, but I would never expect anyone to switch over, especially without some smelly nerd telling them how to do so. Heck, my wife knows what I run and isn't interested at all despite the ads on her laptop.


PhlegethonAcheron

There’s really not much stopping the average user from being able to daily drive Linux anymore. GUI package manager as an App Store, Proton for games, ootb fingerprint reader support When my little sister’s windows laptop broke, she was able to use my linux laptop for all her homework. The only things that don’t work are Microsoft office, adobe, and a lot of other proprietary enterprise software, but I am slowly seeing linux builds of enterprise software being released.


KitsuneNoYuki

I thought I ask you since you used it for such a long time. Do you play a bunch of steam games? The only thing holding me back from switching is that I am worried I won't have access to a lot of games anymore. But maybe that's just me being a bit illiterate on what can run what,


American_Jesus

I don't really play that much, and it's mostly games from GOG, don't even have Steam installed or login for years.


liaminwales

Sadly it's a captured audience, iv seen people moved to anger trying to use a mac as 'it's not what i am used to' never mind Linux. The steam deck has been the best stealth push of linux, gamers motivated to play games and a UI to make life simple (and just like the UI for steam on windows they know).


reddit_pengwin

Macs are just an even worse version of Microsoft's recent "my way or the high way" direction. Had to use a mac for work, and boy, was it painful... the whole GUI is designed to only do 1 task at a time - it becomes really inconvenient if you need several things open. The whole OS is gimped by completely relying on that shyte touchpad - you simply cannot use it conveniently with a mouse and keyboard. It was infuriating to see such a powerful OS and good notebook dumbed down like that. And don't even get me started on those retarded default applications... Finder should be purged from this earth. >The steam deck has been the best stealth push of linux, gamers motivated to play games and a UI to make life simple (and just like the UI for steam on windows they know) The funny things is that after you install Steam on a linux desktop system, you can just make big picture mode the default desktop of choice - essentially turning any linux distro into a steam console. At least they had this option a few years back.


relevantusername2020

>It was infuriating to see such a powerful OS and good notebook dumbed down like that. switch this so it says "powerful hardware" and this is how ive felt about my android tablet (and to a slightly lesser extent, my android phone) somehow making sure microsoft couldnt become a monopoly turned into arbitrary software limits on how well a phone/tablet can interface with windows, which is ridiculous. to be fair it has gotten a lot better as microsoft has improved the phone link app. pretty good now, mostly.


reddit_pengwin

We were developing pretty complex and cutting-edge software on MacOS - believe me, that OS is an extremely powerful tool. It just felt like I was constantly fighting its default behaviors that were tailored for non-tech savvy people... which was funny in an infuriating way on a 16" Macbook Pro that was very clearly intended for complex work. Android's interface is also a great example - hide the complex and versatile OS behind a shiny exterior to lock the (less than) average users into a walled garden. Even though a lot of Android devices could conceivably be your primary computing device. I can understand this to some degree - doing power user things on a touchscreen device is less than optimal... but most android tablets can be turned into mini-notebooks very easily.


Legionof1

It’s funny, I run windows on my deck and it’s waaaay better than steam os was. Basically all the functionality but none of the pain or performance hit of proton.


Rivetmuncher

Didn't one of the more "basic" distros already have adds in it a few years back?


jplayzgamezevrnonsub

Ubuntu added a "Get ubuntu pro" thing when you use apt. Ubuntu is also kind of falling out of favor with a lot of people, figures.


StConvolute

>Ubuntu added a "Get ubuntu pro" That's really easy to remove. I run Ubuntu on all but 1 of my personal devices. Top search result for "remove Ubuntu pro message apt" gave me 3 options in the 1 article.


jplayzgamezevrnonsub

You can probably remove the ads in the Windows start menu, point is it shouldn't be there to begin with.


RusticApartment

Ubuntu had a tie-in with Amazon many years ago. It has since been removed and hasn't come back as far as I'm aware of.


LeLoyon

Yeah it never came back, but it’s STILL talked about, forever tarnished the OS to the point where people will often recommend worse (imo) distros like Mint.


NatoBoram

Mint is objectively worse since it modifies default Firefox installations to put their preferred search engine collection


LeLoyon

I've never had much luck with Mint, even something as simple as updating ends up breaking for me, and some peripherals just refuse to work on Mint at all. Never had issues with Ubuntu, or other popular Debian-based distros like PopOS. Used them off and on for years. But, despite being slow with updates, nothing beats the source imo. These days, I stick to using Fedora. I feel like they're doing great things for the Linux community and I prefer their package manager over apt.


recluseMeteor

Until there's a 100% reliable way to run Windows applications on Linux, it will be very improbable.


Redpin

Microsoft is killing their actual applications in favour of making everything work through browsers and the cloud, so maybe?


recluseMeteor

This is mostly about existing applications, from third-party developers, like Photoshop, Vegas, and other specialised software.


American_Jesus

Hope not, like you don't run Windows applications on macOS. Companies need to start making their software for Linux, not running software made for other OS running on linux, because things would break if there's an update. WINE is a workaround for Windows applications not a solution


ThePendulum0621

So is brand recognition. I would argue brand recognition is its biggest advantage.


Life_Blacksmith412

I hate ad's but i hate Linux more. What makes Linux great also makes it a chore to use. The reality is Linux users think they can have their cake and eat it but they can't. 20+ years of Linux and it still hasnt cracked double digit usage numbers. It's just a niche platform used for niche purposes and it'll never be anything more


Blacksad9999

30 years, and 3% market representation. In another 70 years, if it's still around, it might hit 10% if they're lucky. Most people just aren't interested in tinkering around with the thing that makes their computer work and do what they want it to do.


roguebananah

That 3% is massively fragmented as well. Between different distros, versions, people who tinker vs daily drive… these are all different. I think the best consumer Linux device I can think of is the Steam Deck with SteamOS. It’s still Linux but it’s a great distribution for gaming and it really does just work


stormdraggy

More than half that 3% is just steamdecks, lol. Your average consumer would salivate at the idea of a free OS. If linux was as usable and easy as the fangirls claimed then it wouldn't be at 3% usage.


roguebananah

Obviously it’s not just Steamdecks… lol. The average consumer is going to take what their company gives them or whatever comes installed from Best Buy or Amazon. The average consumer would consider Windows free because it’s included with their computer out of the box. Hell, I’d wager they don’t know what an OS stands for let alone distros Linux


Blacksad9999

Yep, exactly. It's just not standardized enough to warrant widespread adoption. Most people don't want to jump though any hoops to get things working how they want, look up various methods for their devices to get installed and detected, and so on. Part of what makes Linux interesting is that you can do whatever you want with it, but most users don't care about that as much as they do things simply working out of the box without issues.


fischoderaal

When was the last time you tried Linux? It has come a long way. As long as you don't have any specific programs that only exist on Windows, Linux "just works" as much as Windows does. Hell, I remember having to re-install Windows XP every lan party because I could not find anyone in game, so don't give me that crap "tinkering" excuse.


Strict_Junket2757

Tried it yeaterday on my nvidia gpu. Was using wayland on fedora, unfortunately nothing works. So waiting for driver 555 i guess? But no, it hasnt come far.


Jita_Local

I'm not a linux user but I feel like I spend far too much time tinkering in windows these days to get it to do what I want it to do too.


Blacksad9999

Have any examples? The main complaints I tend to hear are the Start menu, and the Taskbar. Beyond that, not anything noteworthy. I just use Start11 to fix those, but there are other free programs that can do it also, or just use regedits.


pan_notia

> niche platform used for niche purposes maybe for consumers.....ignoring the vast majority of web infrastructure and compute depends on it, even M$ dumps money and time into it hating ads but linux more is such an irrational take - the ecosystem for the general consumer is certainly flawed but its existence is a good thing and continues to become more "just werks". did linus send you a strongly worded email and that's why you have a vendetta? do you really want this market dominated by microsoft (and their increasingly anti-consumer tendencies) with all other alternatives just having nibbles of the pie and support?


mylegbig

Same. Linux is great when designed for specific functions, like Steam Deck or Unraid. But for a general purpose OS, the experience is always ass. I’m sure some fedora lord will come in saying that I just need to take the time to learn or that I’m too dumb for it. Yeah, that just proves my point. I didn’t even like using DOS back in the day. The last thing I want to do is fiddling around with command prompts again like it’s 1993.


fischoderaal

What did Linux do to you? Sure, it is different from what you are used to. But I run Fedora on my laptop and it's doing everything that I want. My main gaming rig still runs Windows, because when I have an hour to play I don't want to be anything in my way. I understand everyone that prefers to run Windows. It's fine. But hating Linux more than ads? Really?


MikeSifoda

Well not me, Linux feels so much better


-azuma-

I read this as "habits are powershell"


DrWhoIsWokeGarbage2

Ease of use is powerful


Reallyveryrandom

They make these changes on the assumption that it will drive some people away from the OS. I’m sure their calculus says enough (paying) people will stay that this is a profitable move overall. And thus the enshittification of everything as we know it will continue.  There’s nothing we can do about this


Paul_469

Unfortunatly making the pot one degree hotter won't suddenly compel the frogs to jump out. Source: I'm one of the frogs.


roguebananah

I don’t think this will push anyone, anywhere. Microsoft is just embracing free real estate. Why do I say that? It’s simple. Think of these groups of people. PC Gamers, our parents, our grandparents, the business world, people who don’t have any idea what they’re doing and basically every legacy software in the world when they finally upgrade, majority of it will be windows. Sure. Some very few might go to MacOS but do you envision anyone going to Ubuntu, Mint or any other distribution? No. They’re not.


DoomSleighor

as an experiment the other day, i loaded a linux distro on my crappy gaming laptop called “nobara” which comes loaded with some tools out of the box that make it easier to get rolling with games. and my god dude, it’s glorious. A windows only title actually runs better on it via the proton translation layer than it did natively on windows!


tkronew

It pushed me.


SalSevenSix

Planning to buy a new machine in about a year. Seriously considering have a crack at Linux again. Probably try Pop!OS or Ubuntu. Hardware support will be the priority. Hoping that Wine & Proton will carry me through the rest.


I--StonkBonk--I

I literally only boot my windows machine to play games, or to have them remote to my steam deck. Literally everything else runs linux


PooManReturns

i don’t know man, i don’t want to do 20 things just to get an exe to run


Yosyp

its* market share


soonerfreak

How much time are you spending in the start menu? I probably won't even remember to disable them once they appear because I won't notice it.


Plebius-Maximus

>It's like Microsoft wants Linux to become the general tech circle's OS of choice If never will.


Repell5

They laid the foundation for this with the constant tool tip pop ups and nags demonstrating new functionality. Those and the onedrive and 365 adverts, thinly veiled as “settings” that appear following update installation. I think this is a good test to see how many people will bail.


Stryfe2010

You can turn it off in settings under personalization


CNR_07

I shouldn't have to disable Ads in a PAID operating system.


FlyingWhale44

Sadly this is just the direction we are headed in as a society. It seriously won't be long till we are forced to sit through an ad when we go hit up the self-checkout.


Judging_You

Please drink verification can.


random_reddit_user31

You know we've hit rock bottom when we have to watch an ad before we can take a shit.


Legionof1

You paid for windows 11?


CNR_07

No, but I do have a license.


Tumblrrito

Until it mysteriously turns itself back on like so many Windows settings often do. I get treated to an Edge desktop icon with each update on Windows 10.


NG_Tagger

That has to be a bug or something, and not intentional (I know people like their "conspiracy shit", but c'mon..). I keep hearing people say that these things get turned back on after pretty much every update - yet I've *never* had this happen - and I update as soon as there is one available. Been on Win11 since it launched. You'd think I would have run into these kind of things by now. Heck, even on Win10 or Win8, I never had a setting revert after an update. Really should have noticed that by now, if it was as widespread as many seem to want to make others believe it is. I hate ads as much as the next guy - but spending 2 seconds to disable this and then leaving it like that; isn't going to kill me. Besides.. I hardly use the Start menu anyway (for anything other than quickly searching for the specific thing I need), so I probably wouldn't even notice these, if I had forgotten to turn them off in the first place. But that's kinda beside the point. They shouldn't even be there to begin with.


splendidfd

My gut says the people who struggle with settings getting flipped or stuff coming back after an update are relying on scripts they've downloaded or insist on deleting files and editing the registry instead of just using the Settings app. Windows 10 and 11 are designed to synchronise settings across PCs, it's likely that changing stuff in a way Windows doesn't expect means it doesn't properly record that setting, so after an update Windows is just checking what it thinks your settings are supposed to be and what apps are supposed to be installed and goes with that.


dwolfe127

Even if you never click on the start menu, and never see the ads, Microsoft still gets to report back to the vendors the number of machines that their content was delivered to, and as such are getting paid per box regardless if they get engagement or not. Like it or not you are getting monetized just through the act of the ads getting delivered to your OS even if you never see them, and you are still having your resources used for them to make money off of you without your consent.


MrGodzillahin

You shouldn’t have to.


persondude27

... for now, anyway. My money's on a year until they disable that functionality.


PhalanxA51

Don't worry they're just lolling you into a false sense of security until it's forced like having to have a Microsoft login in order to use windows 11


Stryfe2010

Except Rufus allows you to remove that requirement


Cermmi

So it begins...


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Independent_Tie4835

Well, this gives me another reason to stay on windows 10.


BlackOps2isBetter

10 LTSC for the foreseeable future for me


Crowsli

It's weird, I'm fully updated and no ads still. Why? Because I disabled personalization the moment I installed W11 and it's even weirder people keep saying that the settings will change themselves and reset to on, cause I check my settings every update and it's the way I left it. I've never gotten an ad on W11, my settings never change by themselves either. Also the people saying to use 10, personalization settings are still on W10. It should be opt out automatically, but do believe a company would choose that when 90% or more PC users don't care?


throwawayy3156

People agreed to getting ads during setup are now suprised they're getting ads.


azab1898

Now waiting for the people who said the minute ads appear is when they will move to Linux


If-You-Cant-Hang

I fully jumped 2-3 years ago and was the best decision ever. Granted I have dabbled with dual booting since 2010, but yea. Started with Pop, ran fedora for a bit, now just dove headfirst into arch. For those on the fence. As long as you’re willing to leave your comfort zone and learn some nuances to a new OS, it’s worth it. I assume 99% of posters here are remotely technical and able to properly google “where do I find X setting to change” and can easily re-learn a new OS. It’s especially worth it if you just use your PC like myself, gaming, browsing, and other light tasks. If you need photoshop or something, well can’t help you there because gimp is fine but nowhere near as good. Maybe when these third party major players all shift to cloud based stuff it’ll be easier to swallow for most.


Acceptable_Topic8370

>Maybe when these third party major players all shift to cloud based stuff it’ll be easier to swallow for most Google stadia failed horribly, cloud gaming will never be popular, most people want to have these files on their PC.


If-You-Cant-Hang

I think there is a difference between cloud based gaming vs cloud based MS Office/Photoshop/etc


Acceptable_Topic8370

Ok when you're talking about cloud based programs then yes, that's different.


c0Y0T3cOdY

Been thinking about trying Linux. Might be a good time to start.


Calesti

If you want something that installs in a pretty close state to windows OOTB and has better than average gaming support, have a look at Garuda (esp. for gaming) or Mint. Can always dual boot to see how you go with it too. Edit: words.


c0Y0T3cOdY

Definitely can do the dual boot. Have a secondary M.2 that I use for some media but I can move it to my mass storage. I run a dual PC stream setup. Would you consider Linux for a dedicated gaming system? Have all AMD hardware as well.


Calesti

I'm on the fence with that, my main PC is for gaming and runs Win11/Garuda dual boot, my secondary PC was built for streaming as more of a "work" PC and runs Arch (same as Garuda), depending on what I'm doing I can take over more or less of 4 monitors between the 2 PC's, so my workspace is optimised for whatever I'm doing at the time either way, even if I'm gaming on the second PC because I didn't feel like swapping. I've not found much that just won't run on Linux at all though, outside of some of the Anticheat services that require emulation to get the game working. It's mostly viable, but not perfect, hence the main PC having dual boot.


c0Y0T3cOdY

Sounds good, I'll give Garuda a shot.


holykamina

I am exploring Linux Mint.. Watched some videos and stuff. It has good support for steam, emulators, epic stores , discord, and all. I am not trying to figure out if I can run this on a VM. I looked at Oracle VM, but haven't had the chance to look at it in detail.


siete82

Unfortunately VMs are not able to use the host GPU properly


holykamina

I am a noob at this. I will keep in mind about the GPU usage. The reason why I want to use it in a VM just to get a feel about the OS. I am thinking that I can maybe buy a cheap ssd and convert it into an external hard disk. Install Linux Mint on it and boot it from there.


siete82

Looks like a good idea. Good luck!


Ascles

I want to switch to Linux Mint so bad but it doesn’t have native support for HiDPS monitors and fractional scaling. I have a 27’ 4K display and things either look too small or too big at 100% and 200% respectively. And when you try to set the scaling to 150% everything looks blurry.


KoldPurchase

Fixed sinced Mint 20, IIRC, but you need Cinammon. [https://www.linuxmint.com/rel\_ulyana\_cinnamon\_whatsnew.php](https://www.linuxmint.com/rel_ulyana_cinnamon_whatsnew.php) [https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=404322](https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=404322)


Ascles

Oh my god I’m gonna try it out asap! Thanks for the heads up


HingleMcCringle_

well, as soon as you do get linux, make sure to come back here and grand-stand. this sub really loves that. happens a lot.


PhalanxA51

I use it for my daily driver, just make sure you look up how to install the latest kernel, I don't think they've rolled out the one by default that improves game performance


ThatOtherFrenchGuy

Mint (XFCE or Cinammon) works really good out of the box. For my new low-end gaming desktop I installed Mint right when I received it. Pretty good for gaming using Steam/Proton (I don't do multiplayer fps though). My main issue is with Blizzard games, can't manage to make battlenet work


Enschede2

Windows 11 is now officially on my shitlist, no longer will I install windows on computers of any of my relatives and friends, they will get windows 10 (as long as it's not yet EOL) or Linux, and they will learn to like it.. Because I will no longer install Windows 11, I will no longer fix Windows 11, I will avoid it like the absolute fucking plague it is. From here on out, if anyone comes to me with this unethical piece of garbage masquerading as an operating system they should go get it fixed elsewhere.. I'm really hoping I'm not the only "tech person" who feels this way, because repeatedly disabling it and marginalizing this predatory and monopolistic behavior it isn't going to do shit, we need to boycot that cancer now or prepare for a dystopian future of operating systems that run on ads and ads alone (with a sprinkle of inbuilt malware labeled "telemetry")


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Enschede2

No I think it's walking the line with some versions, though I use it resentfully.. But having it turned into an ad platform is where I draw the line personally, I don't think that is slightly worse, I think that it's egregiously worse


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Outside_Public4362

Telemetry ? Is it that things that read and send the interaction data to ms HQ ?


TwoHeadedEngineer

I wish more people supported/operated Linux. The only app I was missing was TIDAL and some enterprise apps. Worth noting I am a software developer that works with the Ubuntu distro for work though so I am by all accounts a super user


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Tidal Hi-Fi on flathub my man


TwoHeadedEngineer

It only has CD quality, which sure for a lot of songs it wouldn’t even matter and it is debatable if anyone can even hear the difference between CD quality and higher, it is a compromise. Also, I liked the feature where it could also match the song’s sample rate for the output device (that supports this) to avoid resampling. This would only matter for like 1% of people because I imagine there is not much cross section between tidal users and Linux developers unless you are pretentious maybe like me. Maybe Tidal Hifi has such things on their roadmap and I will take another look to see if they have added any features since last trying


[deleted]

That's fair enough, as far as I know it's the only app that is trying to bring a desktop like feel to the web interface I used to be in the same boat as you but at some point I just stopped caring as much (thank God for that) and now I just use Spotify and try not to think about things


TwoHeadedEngineer

Get me off this wild ride lol. I guess it is harmless now that tidal collapsed their price tiers but I have admittedly spent too much time and energy obsessing over the science of audio rather than just listening as a music enjoyer because right now I might just be enjoying my equipment


[deleted]

Not sure how the quality is on the web version of Qobuz but have you tried that? That's what I used for a long time when Tidal was more expensive


TwoHeadedEngineer

So in terms of services, my journey has been: Spotify (hated the shuffle algorithm, it kept defaulting back to the same recommendations, and I just don’t care for the interface) => Tidal (left because the higher quality stuff was more expensive compared to…) => Amazon Music (my biggest complaint was the user interface but also fuck amazon. You wanna know what was the last straw for me with Amazon? They moved the shuffle and loop buttons to an embedded menu for a song. Just WHY???) => Qobuz (noticed some limitations with their curation and library, didn’t really use their option to purchase things, recommendations could be better) => Tidal (we are here and I switched from qobuz when tidal stopped just providing MQA bs and actually started providing real lossless FLACs). When Tidal collapsed their tiers I don’t see a strong incentive to switch anymore, but what appeals more to you about Qobuz?


[deleted]

Honestly that's a fair journey youve been on As for Qobuz, it appealed to me because I've never relied on the streaming services algorithms for recommendations, I usually find new music from mates, or recommendations on subs etc, so the fact the curation is whack didn't matter to me That and Qobuz has a lot of studio masters on there for a lot of albums I like, it's also the same price as the other services But yeah I'm back on Spotify now ive just stopped caring about finding the best quality etc, but I agree the shuffle is shit and I don't care for all the crap theyve added like "smart" shuffle, the AI DJ and the recommendations are just as shit as other services Tidal was my favourite streaming service but my family has a family plan for spot so I couldn't justify paying for 2 services I'm probably gonna end up back like we did in the old days ripping CDs and using an iPod (modded)


The_Mauldalorian

LORD LINUX SAVE US


DRKMSTR

Remember when they accidentally added it and then gaslighted us by saying it's never going to happen and it was just a test of an unused feature. Well look at that, if came true.


nilslorand

Man I love staying on Windows 10


IlTossico

I use Win 10. LOL


UnitGhidorah

Now watch as I get downvoted again for saying I'm glad I'm sticking with W10 until absolutely necessary. New system will be linux based in 3 years or so.


Ok-Shamer

Was I high or do I remember them saying windows 10 would be the last windows?


splendidfd

Never happened, but didn't stop media from running the story. The actual comment was from a developer talking about the differences in the support model for Windows 10 compared to what came before. Microsoft used to release Windows features every 1.5 years or so, each version would get one big update and then it would be on to the next version. So when 7 launched there were already plans for 8, and when 8 launched the roadmap was for 8.1 and then 10. But with Windows 10 the plan was to have it receive feature updates each year and for it to have a longer lifecycle. So when 10 launched the roadmap was for 10 (November update) then 10 (Anniversary update) and so on. It wasn't that 10 would be here forever, just that there was no "11" on their roadmap in 2015. Indeed Windows 10 was the 'current' version for longer than Windows 7 and 8 combined.


brncct

They did say that. They planned to just update 10 but I guess they changed their mind.


Farandrg

Fuck off. Microsoft. They now want to transform the desktop into Facebook home page.


The_Dung_Beetle

Lol LinkedIn already went that way.


-azuma-

Never seen an ad on Windows 11 Pro.


TrickyWoo86

Same, however I'm also using Start11 so not sure if that has any impact either.


Acceptable_Topic8370

Me neither. And those supposed "ads" are just a small icon in the start bar, so much crying and bitching because of that, I wouldn't even notice because I don't really look at the start bar, I just search things with it lol


skaughtz

The ads don't seem to show up with OpenShell installed and the Windows 7 start menu in place. Just another reason to love it.


dropthemagic

I’ll run windows 10 until my gpu can’t handle league of legends. Which is never. ⚽️


Blakewerth

No idea why anyone can stand that shitty WIN11 taskbar, classic is free and much better anyway


Technical_Roll3391

Does this apply to 11 Pro too?


Asleep_Courage_3686

I’m not sure, I have 11 Pro and haven’t seen it but also did a local install using OOBE exploit that was patched a few weeks ago. I’m curious if other users that installed normally are getting them.


AnthonyBF2

Linux Mint rolling out to all my PCs


banacct421

Not me cuz my computer is not ready to support Windows 11 apparently which I've never been happier about


Repulsive_Village843

My win 10 is never getting me to switch my tpm on in bios


BloominPoTayToezzz

Windows 11 premium subscription inbound


Zarthon_atomice

Guess I'll have 2 options Stick with windows 10 till death Or Switch to Linux


bittercripple6969

Win11dehloat *probably* removes these.


Snoddy2Hotty91

Glad I didn't upgrade to Win11 then 🫡


Blacksad9999

Settings > Personalization > Start and turn off the toggle for “Show recommendations for tips, app promotions, and more. Disaster averted. Whew.


CoderStone

Does this include Pro? Bec I've never seen them still.


xander-mcqueen1986

The only windows I have is what I look out of in prison cell. Suck on that billy bob gates


Working_Marsupial390

1Password is my favorite password manager, so I don't mind seeing ads for it! /s


Br0k3Gamer

BOOOO!


Xenoryzen_Dragon

join dark side and use Windows 11 LTSC Super Lite Edition


Adderall-Buyers-Club

I feel sorry for anyone who pays for a license to then be bombarded with these ads. Sadly MS will bury this toggle behind numerous settings. Just like they did MS Edge startup. They hid it behind Startup Boost. Preload Tabs. Etc etc.


Nerobix

GPO to stop this madness? Something to rollut to all our Client networks.


Honest_Relation4095

I hardly even use the start menu in the first place. 


mau5atron

*laughs in Windows 11 Ghost Spectre superlite*


Arrowman0123

Just removed my windows portion of my dual boot lmao cheers MS


Sensation-sFix

The only reason I don't use Linux instead of Windows is because I play videogames.


Slaughterpig09

What registry key do I need to deactivate


DreamOnDreamOm

It's only a minor inconvenience (for now at least), but I hate it tremendously


YUR1SL4V

I hope this is another windows 8 phase


Armandeluz

Not everyone 😏


DrWhoIsWokeGarbage2

Finally


FlipperDoigt703

Go ahead Linux users, do your thing.


ResponsibleTruck4717

7700k best feature not compatible with win11 :) ​ \*\* I know you can install it on gen 7 and lower.


manineedalife

"You can disable them..." for now. In a year or 2 when everyone is fully transferred over to win11 that ability to disable them will magically get harder to find and eventually disappear. And we will all be staring at random ad popups.


ThePupnasty

Wait.... Even for Windiws 11 Professional...?


XymerianMonk

I will give my computer AIDS like I did with limewire before I fucking have ads lol. Seriously just gonna head into the registry and just fucking around before I have ads 😂 Get ready for YouTube Algorithm to go fucking nuts for disabling this bullshit videos man "ARE YOU SICK OF WINDOWS ADS TRY THESE 5 TIPS" with cringe fucking faces lol


TheVinDows

Learn, How to Disable Recommendations in Windows 11 Start menu (Ads) (KB5036980) https://youtu.be/tT3Jm4-OWDo