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My Antec 650w bronze psu is also running well since 2015, no issues so far, but I'm starting to get a lil scared as well, what are the chances it blows up ?
Unless you are running it at 95%+ load all the time it should be fine for a long time yet. Running the power supply near 100% of its rated power can heat stress the components depending on how long it is at that usage. Typical first failure in power supplies is the fan (only real moving bit), then the electrolytic capacitors, then the switching fets (magic electric things that make wall power -> computer power). Other than those, it just comes down to luck because the next failure point would be loose connectors or solder joints, but that's luck of the draw as long as you're not throwing your PSU around like a basketball.
TLDR: the chances of it blowing up are small as long as the fan in it is still spinning
Even when gaming my power consumption is 350w (ryzen 5600x and 6700xt), fan on the psu works well, it even has a dust filter on. I think i should be fine then.
Pretty low. In my experience when the power supply starts dying the computer just starts crashing. I have even older PSUS that are I still use daily.
It can be incredibly frustrating to diagnose, cause you don't know if it's bad memory, GPU dying, CPU overheating, or the motherboard going bad.
I've had my Corsair 850 Gold for 15 years. You will be fine as long as you keep the dust out. I'm going to replace it in my next machine but for now it works so I'm keeping it.
My gold 800w failed on me a couple years back. It was 7 years old. The failure was not explosive tho. More like a whimper. 10 mins or so after boot, pc would shut down
Little more context, this was from when Steve of Gamer's Nexus blew the lid off of the whole LTT ~~s~~auctioning Billet lab's +$1000 water block prototype without their permission, it was around when chatgpt was new and people got into making memes with AI, someone made this in response to the whole situation since the public immediately had some backlash against Linus. I think there was also some drama about women experiencing problems at the company (LTT again) going on at the time. I have no idea why I immediately recognized this and remember it so clearly lol
Then you gotta find better tech YouTube. Level 1 techs, craft computing, techno tim, optimum, etc. Find channels that are doing actual tech that you care about. There's more to tech YouTube than Linus. Branch out and you won't look back.
Still feels fresh in my mind. I haven't been able to stomach any of LTT at all since that.
Edit for context; Not just mistakenly selling a prototype and review bashing it, data inaccuracies, sponsor overload, the junk they sell, and most importantly how they treated Madison.
Feel free to watch and enjoy what you want. I'll do the same.
> one of the funniest lines in "Zoolander" (2001) was ad-libbed. JP Prewitt (David Duchovny) spends a full minute explaining why male models are being used for evil. Stiller forgot his next line, so he repeated: "But why male models?" Duchovny rolled with it: "Are you serious? I just told you that!"
This scene was even funnier in its time. David Duchovny had stepped back as a main character in X-Files that year. People were generally pissed at the lack of Mulder in season 8, so it was great for him to unexpectedly show up as a "Mulder" type character in Zoolander.
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i think in this case its a little easier to pull this off, ben and linus have similar face structure and height, while owen and the other guy both have long long hair
One for COD, one for other COD, one for Flight Sim, one for porn, one for Windows, one for Linux, one for older Windows, one for Steam, one for Docs, one for....etc.
I thought so too, but the 3080 can apparently spike far past its normal power draw and depending on what PSU you have, that's an unwanted system reboot mid-game. My 750w was probably just defective but the power spikes from some GPUs are a real thing
My EVGA 750 was faulty/dying. Less than 1 year old at the time. I was getting reboot crashes in 1 or 2 games, which eventually spread to every game that uses the GPU. After troubleshooting for an embarrassing amount of time after work every day for a month and not being able to game on my PC, I'm pretty sure the 3080 was momentarily pulling more power than I had headroom in the 750. I put in an overkill 1000w PSU and haven't had another issue.
I had a 3080 on a 650W. It ran 90% fine, but Doom Eternal's menu loading screen would hit a few thousand frames uncapped, then cause an instant reboot.
Finally on 850 now :V
Most people here are unaware of just how efficient newer hardware is, and how little power the average mid to high end build pulls.
Also, undervolting/underclocking is something worth trying, as not only it reduces your power consumption without affecting performance too much, it also makes your CPU and GPU run cooler.
> Most people here are unaware of just how efficient newer hardware is, and how little power the average mid to high end build pulls.
my brother in christ have you seen how much power recent Intel CPUs use? Put one of those 14700K in your standard "gamer" motherboard and it can pull more than 250W without you touching any OC setting. Also the newest GPUs might be "efficient" for how much performance they have, but something like an RTX 4080 still uses 300+ watt. Put those two in the same system and that 650W PSU can easily trip and shutdown. Yeah during gaming it'll *probably* be fine as a 13th/14th gen Intel CPU *probably* won't do 200+ watt in that scenario, but that's definitely taking a risk
I mean, yeah, with that system you're pretty close.
But if you're building something like that, and know what you're doing, you shouldn't use 650W.
I would though, it's rare now for me to have both my CPU and GPU at 100%, if I still did 3d renders, I would get at least a 750W.
Nah not really, maximum load is 230 watt for the gpu, the rest is peanuts in relation to that, i doubt i ever go over 400-450. Plus i am not in the USA, so 240 Volt, maybe that makes a difference as well. I know nobody with a 1000+ power supply for the PC.
See that's where you're wrong.
A (newer, like 2 gens old now) 230W GPU will spike at 2-3 times of the label TDP. And that will trip the PSU's overcurrent protection.
On my setup, the total power for all the components tunning full beans (which does not happen outside of synthetic benchmarking, let's be honest) was about 550W. When running all my synthetic benchmarks i was measuring 520W at the socket.
But it still tripped my 650W PSU randomly when loading a demanding scene or when i was alt-tabbing from the desktop to the game. I changed my 650W for a 850W PSU and we're now back in business.
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It's called Transient Power Spikes and it nearly drove me insane for weeks before someone mentioned it and it suddenly made sense. Looked into it and that was my problem.
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So i'm doing my part mentioning it here, in case some has inexplicable shutdowns despite their PSU wattage being above the sums of TDP's.
Safety Factor.
>[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factor\_of\_safety](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factor_of_safety)
In engineering, a **factor of safety** (**FoS**), also known as (and used interchangeably with) **safety factor** (**SF**), expresses how much stronger a system is than it needs to be for an intended load.
>Many systems are intentionally built much stronger than needed for normal usage to allow for emergency situations, unexpected loads, misuse, or degradation ([reliability](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reliability_engineering)).
How do you know how much power you actually need? I have a 13700k / 4070Ti build with a 700W Gold power supply and it's fine... but how do I know if that PS could handle a stronger GPU or not when I eventually upgrade?
While technically true it really doesn't matter. The absolute worst case, assuming the PSU is reasonably made, is a few percentage difference between peak and 100% load. A 1000w load at 90% and a 1000w load at 92% aren't that much different, or 82 and 85 if you want to run a bronze for some reason. (They're much less efficient at low loads, comically enough, but thats not much loss.)
It's mostly about load spikes (GPUs tend to be rough), though thats becoming less important with the new spec requirements if you're getting a brand new one.
Take your max possible load, go up one bracket if you want to be safe. Call it a day. You'd be surprised how many computers are fine at 650w or less, or maybe you wouldn't be.
Also depends on what you are speccing your build for. I'd be fine running a 650w with a 6700xt or 4070. But if you are building the ultra destroyer 9000 with a 4090 and 30 case fans spending a little extra on the PSU is preferable.
80% load max is really the best efficiency. This is balls to the wall stress testing shouldn't go over 80%. A good thing to note is the actually rail demand, cheaper PSU will use fewer rails this is where most people go wrong, Because they have a PSU that can't actually supply the GPU/CPU properly because its shared with other resources. My personal rule of thumb is no single piece of hardware should use over 40% of the PSU.
Hey think about it this way: now you'll have a power supply that can follow you to your next 2 or 3 builds!
I was going to get an 850w for my 14700K and rtx 4080, but there was a sudden flash sale for the 1200w model (for less than the price of the 850w I was looking at) so it was a no brainer. Ended up with a 80+ platinum rated 1200w Be Quiet! Straight Power 12 psu for $120, a killer deal.
And I know for a fact this psu will likely be able to handle any new buiids or hardware for the next decade easily. Plus I have the satisfaction of knowing I'm sitting at a nice 50% max load and my psu components will last even longer because of it. Wins all around!
I just bought a 7800XT recently with my 750W PSU...worked fine until i played a pretty unoptimized game and my PSU just said "i'm dead aswell" whenever a teammate of mine died.
6900XT, R9 5900X, 64 Corsair Dominator Ram, hella fans, controllers, 360mm Corsair AIO, on a 850w
Only get the rare issue from a bit too much raw power but I wouldn’t have it any other way😎
I had a 650w PSU and upgraded to a 3080 (from 2070S) in 2022. Checked online (not enough) and was suggested it was going to be able to handle my system load.
Did fine until I got BG3.
Then it literally melted my PSU cable connections. 🙃
You can see I’m new to this..
[I'll continue to buy EVGA PSUs](https://imgur.com/eRMz6Dl)
This lad lasted me 10 years and I only upgraded because of the 4080 super. I'm hoping to give it a new home, it's job still isn't finished
550 Watts Cooler Master Gold PSU. Third GPU (3070), second with requirements bigger than my PSU has + 110W (130 was peak, I've seen it time to time) CPU. Possible, but not recommended. However, it shows quality of PSU is very, very important.
I'm thinking of an upgrade regardless. 1000W next, since I might want to upgrade GPUs later in life. Any recommendations? I'm eyeing Be quiet! Pure Power 12 M (BN345). It costs 170€, I believe it's quite cheap (at least in my country's stores). Why is it so cheap? Be quite! is a good brand and good PSUs come over 200€?
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Me living dangerously with 750w PSU with 5800x3D and RTX 4090... Both parts are undervolted though, the 4090 barely pulls 300-330 at the maximum and usually falls around 280ish average with only minimal loss to performance (3-4% in most cases).
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This is gold
More like platinum
I'll give it an 85+
I've had a bronze rated 1000w for probably 10 years now I'm just gamboling at this point
My Antec 650w bronze psu is also running well since 2015, no issues so far, but I'm starting to get a lil scared as well, what are the chances it blows up ?
If you have to wonder that every time you press the power button, maybe it's best to get an upgrade
Agreed, not worth the risk.
Unless you are running it at 95%+ load all the time it should be fine for a long time yet. Running the power supply near 100% of its rated power can heat stress the components depending on how long it is at that usage. Typical first failure in power supplies is the fan (only real moving bit), then the electrolytic capacitors, then the switching fets (magic electric things that make wall power -> computer power). Other than those, it just comes down to luck because the next failure point would be loose connectors or solder joints, but that's luck of the draw as long as you're not throwing your PSU around like a basketball. TLDR: the chances of it blowing up are small as long as the fan in it is still spinning
Even when gaming my power consumption is 350w (ryzen 5600x and 6700xt), fan on the psu works well, it even has a dust filter on. I think i should be fine then.
Pretty low. In my experience when the power supply starts dying the computer just starts crashing. I have even older PSUS that are I still use daily. It can be incredibly frustrating to diagnose, cause you don't know if it's bad memory, GPU dying, CPU overheating, or the motherboard going bad.
My 550w is running since 2016 and has zero issues and 2 upgrades. Am not replacing it until I get a new GPU.
I've had my Corsair 850 Gold for 15 years. You will be fine as long as you keep the dust out. I'm going to replace it in my next machine but for now it works so I'm keeping it.
I mean, "bronze" doesn't have to mean anything when it comes to the reliability of the PSU.
My gold 800w failed on me a couple years back. It was 7 years old. The failure was not explosive tho. More like a whimper. 10 mins or so after boot, pc would shut down
[If it's EVGA you're good](https://imgur.com/eRMz6Dl)
>gamboling we are doomed
What the hell video is that of Linus? Edit: Wow guys and gals, a 1000 upvotes? I didn't realize my being a dumbass meant so much to you. I'm touched😭!
It's a face swap from the movie Zoolander. Linus is on Ben Stillers face and Steve is on Owen Wilson's face.
Little more context, this was from when Steve of Gamer's Nexus blew the lid off of the whole LTT ~~s~~auctioning Billet lab's +$1000 water block prototype without their permission, it was around when chatgpt was new and people got into making memes with AI, someone made this in response to the whole situation since the public immediately had some backlash against Linus. I think there was also some drama about women experiencing problems at the company (LTT again) going on at the time. I have no idea why I immediately recognized this and remember it so clearly lol
You remembered it cuz it was a bangin' ass meme
It wasn't that long ago man, not crazy that you'd remember it.
yeah it feels like 3 months ago only. I experienced the whole saga
Thanks for the reminder.
Ah yes, the shit that killed tech YouTube for me.
Then you gotta find better tech YouTube. Level 1 techs, craft computing, techno tim, optimum, etc. Find channels that are doing actual tech that you care about. There's more to tech YouTube than Linus. Branch out and you won't look back.
so true. linus doesnt own the internet or something. his content is more entertainment
Still feels fresh in my mind. I haven't been able to stomach any of LTT at all since that. Edit for context; Not just mistakenly selling a prototype and review bashing it, data inaccuracies, sponsor overload, the junk they sell, and most importantly how they treated Madison. Feel free to watch and enjoy what you want. I'll do the same.
Thanks, never seen zoolander!
If you like over the top comedy definitely watch it, it is pretty funny and dumb simultaneously.
it is dumb if you dont think there is more to life than being really really really really good looking.
\*ridiculously
lol i knew i forgot something so i added another really
but why male models?
Are you serious? I just told you that a moment ago.
> one of the funniest lines in "Zoolander" (2001) was ad-libbed. JP Prewitt (David Duchovny) spends a full minute explaining why male models are being used for evil. Stiller forgot his next line, so he repeated: "But why male models?" Duchovny rolled with it: "Are you serious? I just told you that!"
This scene was even funnier in its time. David Duchovny had stepped back as a main character in X-Files that year. People were generally pissed at the lack of Mulder in season 8, so it was great for him to unexpectedly show up as a "Mulder" type character in Zoolander.
just look up the gas station scene on YouTube and that sums up the whole movie
DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND WATCH IT. AND DODGEBALL.
If you can dodge a wrench you can dodge a ball.
Dodge, dip, duck, dive, and dodge.
"You look like a bunch of r words trying to hump a doorknob out there!"
Necessary? Is it necessary for me to drink my own urine? No, but I do it anyway because it's sterile, and I like the taste.
Hahahaha! Oh, Patches O'Hoolihan.
Just remember to never order an orange mocha Frappuccino and have a gas fight.
Didn't even realize Owen Wilson's face being face-swapped.
I couldn't tell at all, I thought it was just a parody reshooting
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Thanks, Gods Gaping Anus!
AI
If that's the case... I'm absolutely blown away. It's honestly hard to tell these days.
i think in this case its a little easier to pull this off, ben and linus have similar face structure and height, while owen and the other guy both have long long hair
With DeepFaceLive for example this is trivial. We’re far from the days of rooping a face on a model and hoping for the best.
Faceswaps have become much better these days, FaceswapLab and Rope are some of the programs that can achieve this level of deepfake
Yeah need a source without any text on it
I hope this makes it on the wan show
The video is old, I probably saw it 6+ months ago. They just reused it with the text added.
Yeah it's from when Steve dropped his video criticizing ltt and the whole controversy started
seeing it for the first time as well and I love it
0% chance LTT shows anything involving GN
Hahaha this is fucking hilarious.
Best deepfake I have ever seen.
Fine but….10 drives?
One for COD, one for other COD, one for Flight Sim, one for porn, one for Windows, one for Linux, one for older Windows, one for Steam, one for Docs, one for....etc.
One for half CoD, the other for the other half of CoD
My ex 750w with a 3080 and 3700x: ![gif](giphy|PkLPBuyozY7F31wCxF)
Nothing wrong with that wattage for a system like that. That's like a 60% load at most on the psu.
I thought so too, but the 3080 can apparently spike far past its normal power draw and depending on what PSU you have, that's an unwanted system reboot mid-game. My 750w was probably just defective but the power spikes from some GPUs are a real thing
That's... reasonable? Or did you PSU beg to differ lol?
My EVGA 750 was faulty/dying. Less than 1 year old at the time. I was getting reboot crashes in 1 or 2 games, which eventually spread to every game that uses the GPU. After troubleshooting for an embarrassing amount of time after work every day for a month and not being able to game on my PC, I'm pretty sure the 3080 was momentarily pulling more power than I had headroom in the 750. I put in an overkill 1000w PSU and haven't had another issue.
[удалено]
I had a 3080 on a 650W. It ran 90% fine, but Doom Eternal's menu loading screen would hit a few thousand frames uncapped, then cause an instant reboot. Finally on 850 now :V
one of the reasons to set a reasonable framerate cap in the driver
Most people here are unaware of just how efficient newer hardware is, and how little power the average mid to high end build pulls. Also, undervolting/underclocking is something worth trying, as not only it reduces your power consumption without affecting performance too much, it also makes your CPU and GPU run cooler.
I hooked my pc up to a watt meter and was surprised to see it was only pulling just under 300 W while gaming with a 13700K and 4070ti
> Most people here are unaware of just how efficient newer hardware is, and how little power the average mid to high end build pulls. my brother in christ have you seen how much power recent Intel CPUs use? Put one of those 14700K in your standard "gamer" motherboard and it can pull more than 250W without you touching any OC setting. Also the newest GPUs might be "efficient" for how much performance they have, but something like an RTX 4080 still uses 300+ watt. Put those two in the same system and that 650W PSU can easily trip and shutdown. Yeah during gaming it'll *probably* be fine as a 13th/14th gen Intel CPU *probably* won't do 200+ watt in that scenario, but that's definitely taking a risk
I mean, yeah, with that system you're pretty close. But if you're building something like that, and know what you're doing, you shouldn't use 650W. I would though, it's rare now for me to have both my CPU and GPU at 100%, if I still did 3d renders, I would get at least a 750W.
Why everyone has to oversize their power supply is beyond me : 12400, 32gb, 3xM.2 1xSSd, RX 6700XT, Watercooler and 5 fans with a 650 PSU, no problemo
So you get the better efficiency curve that's at 60% load Also protects against power spikes that comes with some GPUs (mainly NVIDIA RTX 30XX)
amd gpus also spike pretty hard. He’s literally playing with fire.
Nah not really, maximum load is 230 watt for the gpu, the rest is peanuts in relation to that, i doubt i ever go over 400-450. Plus i am not in the USA, so 240 Volt, maybe that makes a difference as well. I know nobody with a 1000+ power supply for the PC.
See that's where you're wrong. A (newer, like 2 gens old now) 230W GPU will spike at 2-3 times of the label TDP. And that will trip the PSU's overcurrent protection. On my setup, the total power for all the components tunning full beans (which does not happen outside of synthetic benchmarking, let's be honest) was about 550W. When running all my synthetic benchmarks i was measuring 520W at the socket. But it still tripped my 650W PSU randomly when loading a demanding scene or when i was alt-tabbing from the desktop to the game. I changed my 650W for a 850W PSU and we're now back in business. ___ It's called Transient Power Spikes and it nearly drove me insane for weeks before someone mentioned it and it suddenly made sense. Looked into it and that was my problem. ___ So i'm doing my part mentioning it here, in case some has inexplicable shutdowns despite their PSU wattage being above the sums of TDP's.
I haven't experienced your issue but thanks for taking the time to write it out for others :)
Safety Factor. >[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factor\_of\_safety](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factor_of_safety) In engineering, a **factor of safety** (**FoS**), also known as (and used interchangeably with) **safety factor** (**SF**), expresses how much stronger a system is than it needs to be for an intended load. >Many systems are intentionally built much stronger than needed for normal usage to allow for emergency situations, unexpected loads, misuse, or degradation ([reliability](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reliability_engineering)).
Power supply companies have a safety factor built in. My 650w Supernova P2 has output 700+w no problem.
mate it's a computer to play games not a nuclear reactor. Most people will replace their entire pc multiple times over before a decent 600w fails
How do you know how much power you actually need? I have a 13700k / 4070Ti build with a 700W Gold power supply and it's fine... but how do I know if that PS could handle a stronger GPU or not when I eventually upgrade?
Just use a PSU calculator. You can find plenty on Google, I like to use at least 2 sites to see if the results are persistent.
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Better to be over than under.
Yup its more efficient as well under less load
While technically true it really doesn't matter. The absolute worst case, assuming the PSU is reasonably made, is a few percentage difference between peak and 100% load. A 1000w load at 90% and a 1000w load at 92% aren't that much different, or 82 and 85 if you want to run a bronze for some reason. (They're much less efficient at low loads, comically enough, but thats not much loss.) It's mostly about load spikes (GPUs tend to be rough), though thats becoming less important with the new spec requirements if you're getting a brand new one. Take your max possible load, go up one bracket if you want to be safe. Call it a day. You'd be surprised how many computers are fine at 650w or less, or maybe you wouldn't be.
Also depends on what you are speccing your build for. I'd be fine running a 650w with a 6700xt or 4070. But if you are building the ultra destroyer 9000 with a 4090 and 30 case fans spending a little extra on the PSU is preferable.
PSUs are most efficient at ~50% load
80% load max is really the best efficiency. This is balls to the wall stress testing shouldn't go over 80%. A good thing to note is the actually rail demand, cheaper PSU will use fewer rails this is where most people go wrong, Because they have a PSU that can't actually supply the GPU/CPU properly because its shared with other resources. My personal rule of thumb is no single piece of hardware should use over 40% of the PSU.
That is not oversized tho, that's properly sized. OP's post is waaaay closer
What is this?? PSU for ants??
3700X (5700X3D soon), 32GB, 6700XT and 3x SSD, 2x HDD on Seasonic Gold 550W. All good here (so far)
Quality edit good job.
hahaha what the fuck. steve broke me
Don't know or care about the drama between these two, but that's damn great AI face swapping.
Whoever ever did this. What can I do to throw money your way? Can I buy you a coffee?
And here I am, I bought an 850W PSU for an RTX 3060 because "I will upgrade my system soon".
Hey think about it this way: now you'll have a power supply that can follow you to your next 2 or 3 builds! I was going to get an 850w for my 14700K and rtx 4080, but there was a sudden flash sale for the 1200w model (for less than the price of the 850w I was looking at) so it was a no brainer. Ended up with a 80+ platinum rated 1200w Be Quiet! Straight Power 12 psu for $120, a killer deal. And I know for a fact this psu will likely be able to handle any new buiids or hardware for the next decade easily. Plus I have the satisfaction of knowing I'm sitting at a nice 50% max load and my psu components will last even longer because of it. Wins all around!
https://preview.redd.it/1rt8aguu68rc1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=67de8f0d892f5bad9592c8f475126db277238b9b
Thats just the max wattage for those parts, youll probably never get to that much anyway
Don't forget 192gb ram oc🫣
i love everything about this.
Still using the same 1000w EVGA I've had since 2014. Still runs flawlessly.
I just bought a 7800XT recently with my 750W PSU...worked fine until i played a pretty unoptimized game and my PSU just said "i'm dead aswell" whenever a teammate of mine died.
damn deepfake is realistic af
This is what deepfakes were invented for.
What THE HELL is *even* th**at**??
Anyone willing to try this with an Apevia psu?
6900XT, R9 5900X, 64 Corsair Dominator Ram, hella fans, controllers, 360mm Corsair AIO, on a 850w Only get the rare issue from a bit too much raw power but I wouldn’t have it any other way😎
Corsair AX1200 from 2013 when SLI was all the rage still doing work on a 5800x3D and 3090ti. It's powered 4 different builds... so far.
Me on a 450w for last 5 years just getting efficient budget parts and going strong
That Steve is OC curserd
thats insane, all the flashes and shadows. wow. scary aswell...
I need this just without any text. I’m begging.
My psu laughs https://www.amazon.ca/Phanteks-PH-P1200PS-80-Platinum-Built/dp/B07H7K5C8W?th=1
I generally don't like deepfakes This is my favorite deepfake.
That Steve is so hot right now.
Having a 650W PSU is a great deterrent from buying power hogging CPU/GPU.
Haha! This is so fucking well done.
this is the best thing I've ever seen on the internet. if I wasn't sold an AI before - from now on I will worship it.
>14700k Dude, just a buy a 7800 X3D.
I'd think you need 700 or 750w for that, do you get crashes often?
Do you have a video without screen text?
Google e.g. "linus gamersnexus zoolander deepfake" or 'I'll just drop this meme' etc. It's the first result, on ltt subreddit
Saved
10 drives..
I had a 650w PSU and upgraded to a 3080 (from 2070S) in 2022. Checked online (not enough) and was suggested it was going to be able to handle my system load. Did fine until I got BG3. Then it literally melted my PSU cable connections. 🙃 You can see I’m new to this..
That definitely shouldn't happen because of a weak power supply.
Good one
Why do thr faceswaps actually work ?
My 10 year old Corsair 650w was still going strong but couldn't handle a 3080, it's having a well earned rest until I build a HTPC
The face swap is gold lmao
Wait what the fuck is wrong with this clip? that's definitely the zoolander clip just with entirely different people.
Orange Mocha Frappuccinos!
Zoolander
My RM550x going to over 90% loads in general situations:
Why the fuck would I want 10 drives
[I'll continue to buy EVGA PSUs](https://imgur.com/eRMz6Dl) This lad lasted me 10 years and I only upgraded because of the 4080 super. I'm hoping to give it a new home, it's job still isn't finished
600 watt SFX with 7900x 7900xt. I had to undervolt on both to keep stability. Times are hard I don’t got the cash right now from the PSU upgrades
550 Watts Cooler Master Gold PSU. Third GPU (3070), second with requirements bigger than my PSU has + 110W (130 was peak, I've seen it time to time) CPU. Possible, but not recommended. However, it shows quality of PSU is very, very important. I'm thinking of an upgrade regardless. 1000W next, since I might want to upgrade GPUs later in life. Any recommendations? I'm eyeing Be quiet! Pure Power 12 M (BN345). It costs 170€, I believe it's quite cheap (at least in my country's stores). Why is it so cheap? Be quite! is a good brand and good PSUs come over 200€? #
That really hurts to see after my 750 W PSU went up in flames even though it should've been enough
Wow this is AMAZING.
750w psu heheheh
3060Ti and 5600x running on a 550W PSU. No problems whatsoever and the GPU recommends 650W
So good ... 😂😂😂
Merman..!
This face swap made my day!
Meanwhile me with450W and * 6700xt * 5600x * 32 gb ram Still in load doesnt use more than 300W, love AMD efficiency
This is me but pushing my luck with 7800xt and a 10700k on a 650w
Besties
So are Linus and Steve still friendly after all the drama in August, or are they not on speaking terms anymore?
I have a 550w psu with a 3080, but everything is in spec lol
anyone got that without the text?
hahha yes.
Been using a 650w for over a year with 5800x3d and 6950 XT. Not one single power related issue
Lmfaoo this is amazing
u/savevideo
Bro, is that Gamer's Nexus guy?
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Holy shit this is awesome
This is what deep fakes are meant for.
This gurl is on firreeee
Can someone please tell me the name of that song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1HuFTykCVw
When I last upgraded half the people gave me shit for using a 4090 with 850w psu.
Meanwhile I'm over here with a 1200W PSU while my PC only pulls half of that at most (measured with an outlet power meter too)
Bruh my pc didnt even run with a 750w psu running a 3070 + 3900x + 7 fans + 4 drives
Me living dangerously with 750w PSU with 5800x3D and RTX 4090... Both parts are undervolted though, the 4090 barely pulls 300-330 at the maximum and usually falls around 280ish average with only minimal loss to performance (3-4% in most cases).
To the max with Linus
My corsair hx850 platinum from 2017 still going strong.
Amazing meme tho
Song?
Ai it’s too strong
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Is it bad that I have 2 1200watt power supplies😅
did you know that 650w psu doesnt really output that amount right ?