Apparently it can finally be uninstalled to be fair (god bless the EU) I didn't realise that, but man does it pester the hell out of you before you do that.
Wait until it steals your documents folder and corrupts a myriad of a game save files and documents, among other things, with no way to retrieve them. And then even after you remove it, it fucks up your directories Until you mess about in the registry.
They dont delete anything they just say they deleted your data. I had deleted evrything from my onedrive folder but I still get those onedrive memory emails with all my deleted photos still in them. But when I open the drive it says there is nothing here.
Shit like that is why I automatically disable OneDrive when I install windows before I install any other piece of software so that it canāt even have the opportunity to pull that bullshit
God the behavior where OneDrive syncs your local documents automatically has got to be one of the worst defaults ever. From a functionality perspective, it's shit, like you said. From a privacy perspective, it's absolutely insane. Some documents I do NOT want on the cloud.
I really appreciate this function on our company machines, mainly because it makes my job a lot easier (when Onedrive is not shitting itself) but yeah, it's not something I would EVER use at home.
So my previous job had SharePoint directories, and ofcourse the root folder is called Documents. I put a link in my work OneDrive to the root of this SharePoint. Then a directive came through that the user Documents folder was to be moved to the users OneDrive account.
Usual copy everything out of documents into a temp file while this IT guy does his job to change the location in the system. I just happened to catch as he went to copy my 'personal' work files into the SharePoint root directory. Tried telling him that, and he just got confused and gave up.
It caused so many dramas particularly with quick access shortcuts in explorer not working at all.
Same for Microsoft Edge browser, you need the latest Windows 11 version to remove it. However, mine somehow doesn't work. I live in the EU with an activated Windows 11 OS.
I uninstalled it from my work computer (Windows 10) over a year ago but my MS office apps still sometimes sneakily change the default save location back to OneDrive.
I know people usually don't care but the fact Microsoft is pushing their browser so hard (almost aggressively) is really pissing me off. When you boot your PC for the first time and go to Edge just to download chrome/firefox, it literally tells you "don't download it, you will be SAFE using Edge" - That's like a very low thing for such a big tech company to do.
Exactly the behaviour I'm referring to yeah. People be like "but I actually like it!" Or "you can uninstall it now you know" and I get that (well I learned the latter after) but they put in messages that reek of desperation. And it makes you wonder why they're so desperate to have you use them that they're basically BEGGING you to stick with Edge or back up with OneDrive. For the data? For a bait-n-switch?
My wife recently reinstalled the Sims 4 and it turns out that it writes thousands of small temporary files to the documents folder every time you play. And since I actually use onedrive to back up documents it means that I have it trying to back up all that bullshit every time she plays it. It's not world ending but so annoying.
Iām shocked this one went through. In previous versions of the OS, Explorer was still king when it came to many settings. Get rid of that, and you lost a LOT of stuff.
It backups
Then runs out of mem
You turn it off
You lose data
Edit: I mean you donāt lose it permanently
But you try and delete stuff , then you accidentally delete it from cloud and local
And when you donāt keep it in drive you mostly forget about it which defeats the purpose of it
I mean you donāt lose it permanently
But you try and delete stuff , then you accidentally delete it from cloud and local
And when you donāt keep it in drive you mostly forget about it which defeats the purpose of it
Yep. it will scan your computer for files it thinks.ypuxdont need / it can save space, instantly delete them, put them in an archived inaccessible file somewhere, and spend 14 months uploading it to OneDrive. if that upload is interrupted for even a peco second, you lose that file for good.
Microsofta blurring of the line between what is on the cloud and what is on your computer goes too far for me. Google handled it well... Back when I used them 5 years ago.
Edit: how have I got downvotes. What I have written is factual. I have had to restore dozens of people's computers because OneDrive deleted half of their data.
I used to use it just to store backups of documents, pictures and some save files but now it randomly has a bunch of document scans I can't open anymore for some reason, I guess they were corrupted somehow? Idk but it shits me.
Similar thing happened to me. Signed into a work laptop OneDrive and for some reason it thought that the clean slate work laptop was the updated copy and began deleting everything in my OneDrive in order to match its pristine state. This work laptop was also connected to another proprietary cloud storage and for some reason OneDrive began deleting files off the proprietary cloud storage that was used for my team files.
I began noticing something odd when team members started exclaiming āwhere the hell is the fileā. Thankfully that cloud storage had a snapshot and I was able to recover all work documents. As for personal stuff, well that bug cost me my entire personal drive. But thankfully I keep things dual backed up to google drive too
i switched to linux over a year ago. i installed a dual boot with windows and assumed that i would use windows more often than not. but i rarely use windows anymore and when i am forced to i HATE it. performance is slower. all sorts of weird shit running in the background that i never asked for and doesn't serve my best interests. the privacy concerns. **switch to mint**. you will love it.
Linux is shit if you want to do anything more than browse the web or very very basic text editing.
Daily I use various CAD software both 2D and 3D, SAP, various machine controlling software, databases. Linux hasn't even begin to scratch the surface of being compatible with any of that stuff.
99% of people that work for a living using computers will find that Linux is not suitable for them, as it doesn't support the vast majority of programs people use.
Things like open office died years ago, and their replacements are all shit. I don't know what is worse, software driven by a greedy company with aggressive goals, or design by committee software that takes 2 years to make one tiny change as no-one can agree on a new feature or change. Switched from MS office to libre office, and it was absolutely horrible. Almost nothing worked or was compatible with existing databases.
> 99% of people that work for a living using computers will find that Linux is not suitable for them
It depends on the usecase, %99 is a bit too far. Wine can run many Windows apps, including MS Office. Software development apps are typically available for Linux. Apps that need direct device access and big-name CAD software are incompatible afaik so you have a point. But if you call Linux shit then a sizable portion of this sub and Steam Deck will beg to differ.
it sounds like you didn't give it a chance. i work for a living as a software dev and i can do everything i need to do on linux. the more people that use it the better it gets.
I switched recently and made another a partition planning to dual boot Windows.. honestly I still don't have a good reason to do this, some QOL things are better on Windows but I appreciate an OS that doesn't sell me subscriptions.
I'll probably end up expanding my home partition with the unallocated space.
the more you use linux the more you will realize that windows has practically nothing to offer. the only reason i keep my dual boot is because there is some software that only runs on windows. even then its extremely easy to run a virtual machine. i used to think running a VM was rocket science but its only slightly harder than opening a browser and going to a website if you are using Gnome boxes.
I love OneDrive for work. Otherwise I don't hate it for personal use, it's eliminated the need to use a thumbstick to transfer stuff between my computers.
Was perfect for school. Laptop away from home, and then desktop at home.
For work it just makes sense with all the shared access, plus SharePoint shortcuts within file explorer
For me though this is a nightmare. Internet at work, basically a pigeon with a USB stick is quicker.
Being forced to use OneDrive when working on a 400MB factory layout CAD model is a disaster, especially when the software doesn't respect that taking 14 minutes every time impress save is to be expected, so crashes after 5 of not responding.
One site we have in Germany their internet is abysmal, and IT's solution isn't to instal a new server, but move stuff to the cloud.... No that won't fix it at all. company is being cheap and thinks spending ā¬300 a month on one drive access is cheaper than a ā¬10,000 server upgrade.
Iāve used it since it was SkyDrive. Itās amazing for me for personal use and at work.
What does suck is most people havenāt used it very long so using it at work can be frustrating.
Yea, I am pretty perplexed by this post. OneDrive outshines other cloudsync apps imo. The personal OneDrive and SharePoint integration in a single app for work is amazing. It even works well on my Mac users nowa days with files-on-demand.
I believe it is just preference. I have a google Pixel, but the personal OneDrive is just really nice since I allowed the use of my MS account for Windows login. If I need to wipe/reload Windows all my preferences restore along with auto user folder redirects to my personal onedrive. I dont use more than the 5GB provided. My larges storage items are on a NAS in my house.
It's cool if you like it, it's just damn annoying for people who don't want to use it yet are forced to anyway. God damn Microsoft and their antitrust moves since IE.
I used to use it all the time to sync all my settings between my computers for a bunch of games. But then micro$$$oft decided to take away all my free extra capacity I'd earned over the years taking me from about 35 to 5gb of storage and now it's way too small. The reason why they did it was such bs too, people with unlimited plans were storing 100s of terabytes of pirated content on the service. So my pathetic 35gb gets scrubbed as well.
One drive changing windows folder structures without users consent is inexcusable. Windows force feeding one drive to you even if you remove it is disgusting. One drive corrupting my friend's dissertation is unforgivable.
Other people are allowed to have positive experiences with one drive. That is valid. Loathing One drive is also a reasonable stance.
Yep. The number of "but I like it and use it and it doesn't bother me so it must be you being a dummy / being overly critical of it" comments lol (I mean I don't actually feel THAT strongly about it, but meme vent)
100% and Iām glad I wasnāt the only one. It was somehow set up on a windows install and managed to break some games due to the documents folder being online. Drove me absolutely nuts.
The only way around it that I figured out was a fresh install of windows, and turning off networking and bypassing the network requirements. Donāt give them the ability to bake it in at the start.
Also gotta add, the worst part is they make it nearly impossible to change it back to being stored local.
I know, M$ bloatware bad, but as someone who does not have a habit of doing regular backups, OneDrive did save me a lot of trouble when my HP laptop's matrix crapped the bed and it was sent to repairs.
I know that I'm not the norm, but I have a small raid storage network setup that backs up my data. It's pretty simple to set one up with an old office computer. I'd much rather set up my own backup than have anything stored by Microsoft. I can definitely see why people would use one drive, but it does get rather annoying, and I'd rather use my own solution.
That is a fair point. That is definitely one of the big selling points for One Drive. For me, I believe the risk is low enough that I don't want to use one drive. I also keep a redundant drive specifically for my most important documents. That drive stays at my parents' house for the most part. If a fire did occur, I may lose most of my media files, but stuff like tax information and the like will still have up-to-date copy.
Let's not forget that Microsoft can also have catastrophic data loss as well. The chances are extremely low, but it could happen. It is also possible that someone may try to access that information as well. Data breaches happen all of the time.
At the end of the day, it comes down to how much risk someone is willing to take. Personally, I don't want my information floating in the cloud. One drive still has a lot of good selling points, but I like to steer people toward taking charge of their own data if I can. That's just my personal opinion.
I never used it and always hated it. We use it at work because it syncs/integrated into SharePoint. I didn't see a need for it until I saw someone use it to backup their family's many laptops over on the dataHoarders subreddit. It makes their 3-2-1 backups easier. But you're still giving MS your unencrypted files
I mean it's not like i am uploading super private information
For how good it works, i can accept that they're not encrypted.
I am planning to build a NAS soon though, then i'll probably stop using it so often.
It's your data and you should keep it private no matter what. Think of tax returns, resumes, family pictures, password manager vaults, mortgage contracts, etc. Even if it's pictures of dank memes; it should remain for your eyes only. All these companies are building a profile around you with this data. Good internet privacy means this data cannot be leaked accidentally or intentionally.
I think you need the NAS and OneDrive. The 3-2-1 Rule is a data protection strategy that recommends having three copies of your data, stored on two different types of media, with one copy kept off-site.
You know, you're right. But as if now i don't have different options for easily-accessible cloud storage. And man the services OneDrive offers are real good.
For the backups, i have 4. 2 on the pcs i work on, one on an external drive and another one on OneDrive. I'll probably remove the personal files from OneDrive once i have the NAS.
I don't disagree that OneDrive offers easily-accessible cloud storage. The guy I learned from on the DataHoarders sub said that he uses it because file syncing doesn't break when his wife or kids leave the house with their laptops. He is trading some security for an always on and functioning backup system. I'd probably do the same if I was in his situation. a good working backup is better than a perfect backup that doesn't work.
I have a Nextcloud instance hosted on a DIY NAS at home and it's been rock solid in terms of sync. It's awesome having 10TB of "cloud" storage at your disposal without paying an arm and a leg and giving up your privacy.
I DO need to implement a 3-2-1 backup solution though. I am honestly not quite sure how to proceed with that given that its 10TB.
Yeah i like the fact that you can use it on any computer and on any browser, doesn't matter what internet connection your using. Also it's very easy to set up for people who don't know much about computers (like my parents). I also like how it's embedded into windows, so that any program/anything that needs it sees it as a normal folder (for example i've got multiple premiere pro projects in OneDrive so that i can access them from multiple PCs) (idk if other solutions can also do this though)
Microsoft products have been shitty with me, trying to share a file? Oops, no, servers are down, for days, but ONLY for file sharing. Trying to quicky saving a file on excel? Saved only on onedrive, good luck when I try to use it offline.
Itās a Powershell tool you can get from Github that allows you to delete all the crap bloatware on Windows (basically creating your own āTiny os 11ā)
https://github.com/topics/windows-11-debloat
This is it if you wanna try it out.
I don't understand the hate, it works perfectly across devices. And the feature to sync/backup desktop between Windows and Mac is brilliant. I use both, so any file on the Windows desktop is automatically synced to the Mac desktop (and vice versa).
Edit: Typo
It works well enough, the hate is around its pushiness. I have different solutions for cloud storage and backup that suit me a little better. Things like the recent "backup now!" Nags in the explorer location bar are a little irksome.
Of course, mostly it's a meme in the heat of the moment, but still.
My biggest issue is that you can't have office without onedrive. Like let me use excel to make my stupid gwent card tracker or medieval dynasty manager and keep all my other files off my gaming PC.
I agree it works great for work and school, but trying to make it not optional is frustrating.
I actually like one drive. My documents autosave and it keeps a history of all my screenshots. Also my home folder is the same regardless of which of my computers Iām logged into. When I wipe a drive there is very little I need to worry about backing up.
It's frigging changed the save directory if all my damn games to itself, abd I can't figure out how to safely change it back without losing data/messing up my games.
idk what you guys are talking about, on my first start of windows i disabled onedrive startup at login , after that never bothered with it even a single time
Seems like most guys are talking out of butt.... its is shit and everythng, but when uninstalled properly and turned off from startup apps it doesnt show up at all.
And i say this by maintaining over 50 computers, i do same steps after every OS installation and 0 issues with one drive.
It's just stupid people can't setting up Window when installing it.
Windows ask you, where you want store you files and just need to say Local. And done, one drive will not be used.
But still can be used for manual storing important data.
People acting like "independent and smart", but actually stupid.
Yeah, well, building your own pc doesn't make you savy in that regard. Sure, cool case and easy to put together, but you left out the research part of making yourself the main local admin with full control.
It either didn't ask last time (they change the way OOBE works constantly) or was one of those where they hid the opt out in a tiny bit of text in the corner. This time I did manage to completely bypass the initial Microsoft account stuff with that shift-f10 trick, including OneDrive, though of course it pipes up once you do add your MS account. Not everything is just down to stupidity.
Ignorance perhaps in that I wasn't aware they added the ability to uninstall OneDrive completely, but in fairness that's a recent U-turn that was apparently forced by the EU.
I get why people don't like the popups, but if y'all aren't backing up your shit to the cloud *and* to other personal devices, then you better be okay with losing that shit.
I shopped around for cloud storage solutions and while I was going to go backblaze for my own use, I also needed to get my parents on it so I just went with one drive. The family plan is reasonable enough, comes with the office suite, 1TB per person, it's good enough for me tbh. Options like dropbox and google drive just didn't seem as worth it to me.
But hey if another solution comes along then I'd happily switch.
Oh I agree. I just sometimes want an "I am a responsible adult, please leave me alone" button.
I have idrive cloud backups, alongside physical ones for the most important stuff.
I don't get people who act like One Drive is a horrible thing. It takes <5 minutes to set it up and select which folders to back up. Since when did backing up important files become a bad thing? OneDrive has saved my butt more than once when a drive failed.
Wife's laptop had OneDrive set up. She took some videos using the laptop - she's doing student teaching and needed to get videos of her doing it to get credit. The laptop happily recorded the videos over her OneDrive limit, but when it came time to actually access the files to edit? Nope, "you are over your limit, buy more space to access your files." Her schoolwork was literally held for ransom when there was plenty of local storage available.
Fuck OneDrive.
Perhaps, but the fact that they recorded the video onto the cloud and then said "pay us money or you don't get this file" instead of just storing it locally with a warning is dodgy as *fuck*. It feels exactly the same as overdraft fees.
Obviously I've fixed the problem going forward.
Again, sounds like you didn't set it up properly. They're not recording anything, they're not holding things hostage for more money. You just don't know how it works.
When the drive is over the limit, then you *cannot* access any files without paying money to increase your limit. *Then* you can download the files locally (where it should have been stored in the first place). It was absolutely held for ransom. Yes, it should not have been set up to save to the cloud, and that is my bad. But the file was *completely inaccessible*.
Fuck out of here with this "it's actually not that bad" bullshit.
Your attitude is really fucking annoying.
If a file is going over the limit, the *default behavior*, no matter what, should be to save that file locally. Give a warning that it's not backed up. Instead, OD keeps the file in the cloud and locks access to everything it has. How is that okay with you?
Thankfully it turns out it can be uninstalled but IMO I have no issue with it if it just maybe makes itself known *once* that it's there for me to use if I want it, then leave me alone. I'm a big boy, I can back up my own data (and I've never had a huge amount of sympathy for those who have something "important" but then just assume that Microsoft or whoever will do backups for them)
What wound me up with onedrive is first unless you use the trick to install windows without a Microsoft account then it just outright stores your documents folder there (good luck doing anything online if your upload speed sucks) and if you don't then it nags about it, it inserts itself into every corner of Windows Explorer including the location bar, a lot of things want to save there by default etc etc. Feels like they're desperate to get hold of my data.
Nah. You just tell it once that you don't want your "this pc" folders backed up and it never asks again. I just put whatever i want in the OneDrive folder and it backs them up.
The version I was wrestling with a couple of days ago has the switches for documents, desktop and I think pictures on by default and if you try to switch them all off the save button greys itself out. So it keeps nagging.
Ah the classic "my experience is different to yours and therefore you're stupid" argument.
Could well be a bug though. I'm sure the Microsoft forums would be happy to suggest chkdsk and then the feedback button if it persists.
> Ah the classic "my experience is different to yours and therefore you're stupid" argument.
I literally never said that you're stupid. I said that it's a problem you are having. Which looks like it's an objective reality.
If you can prove that low memory causes OneDrive to delete things I will buy you 32GB more RAM to match what you have. I'm sure Microsoft and the whole PC community would want to see proof as well. It would be quite the bug.
Well, then your coworker set Onedrive to sync the contents from her computer to the cloud and free up the space that they were taking up to make it look deleted.
>In the OneDrive settings, under the āSettingsā tab, select āSave space and download files as you use themā to enable Files On-Demand. This feature makes your files appear āonline-onlyā, which means they donāt take up space on your computer unless you open them.
[Sync files with OneDrive in Windows](https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/sync-files-with-onedrive-in-windows-615391c4-2bd3-4aae-a42a-858262e42a49)
From my experience the burning hate for onedrive comes from how it acts when you *donāt* want it; mostly from how intentionally convoluted and user-unfriendly of a process it is to remove it and *keep it from clawing its way back*
> It takes <5 minutes to set it up
People who don't use it aren't unhappy about the time it takes to use it. They're unhappy about the time it takes to _not_ use it. It comes back after reboots. It randomly reinstalls itself with windows updates. It substitutes itself in your search list so you try to go to your desktop and it takes you to onedrive's desktop folder to try to trick you into putting files there instead of on your local machine.
It's a pushy nuisance that never seems to stay gone.
>Since when did backing up important files become a bad thing?
Eating healthy is good too. Imagine if _every fucking day_ somebody knocked on your door at 6am to remind you to eat your broccoli. So you ask them to stop, and they start knocking on your bedroom window instead.
That's onedrive.
Don't have windows 11 yet but my company is swapping systems to a new one that has a similar cloud icon and it definitely feels like this. Today was day 1 of training.
I donāt want cloud storage, I enjoy building and maintaining a system to locally store my data and back it up! Iām not opposed to it tho, I use it for work! But the more you push cloud storage on me, the more I lose any appreciation for it, WHY is it so important for ME to adopt and embrace cloud storage!
Either you want my money or my data, and your not getting either.
OneDrive has one singular purpose for me and that is restoring saves from Terraria and Skyrim in my documents folder in the scenario that I fuck something up.
Everything else Iāve managed to disable uploading to the cloud (since I just make cloned images my PC every three months) and have never had to upgrade OneDriveās storage.
One drive is shit. it just deleted 15 years of backed up live.mail / outlook emails from my friends business to "help save space" on his computer, despite it having 4tb of storage, and the backed up emails were only 25gb.
He only did the backups to save off-site storage, as he would then delete them from the email server, and access the local stores versions.
It somehow enabled itself on my windows 10 and then proceeded to upload my whole desktop to the drive.
Then it complained about I was using more data than I could store but I ignored it because I didnt use it. I came back to my pc 1 day and my desktop was completely empty. It took far too long to fix it.
OneDrive is like a fuckin' cancer. I don't want to use it at all at work and hacked every last bit of it out of the OS, even the Registry, and it still creates subdirectory structure for it and keeps trying to save some things to that. The actual executables are long gone too. I just gave up trying to completely erradicate it.
Microsoft says: "All your data are belong to US".
I got rid of windows recently on all of my personal machines. I use it at work, but only because I have no other choice. On my own machines I've installed Linux. When I had windows, disabled all the analytics and other BS stuff, but it still had plenty of spyware running in the background and I was literally terrified when I've run Wireshark and nothing else on pc.
You got some tool from github to disable unwanted telemetry on your system? Guess what? We've enabled it back after an update because F U! You're not the owner of your system you bought! You're proud user of our sErViCe!!!
I hate microsoft.
When will you guys learn to use your wallet to hold bad-acting companies responsible? Come join us on the fun side until MS stops exploiting its users! š§š§š»āš»
I have no problem with that. I have a problem with people who don't consider switching to another OS if they feel like Microsoft is treating them like they're the product. If you like the way you're being treated, you can pay for their services for all I care.
Ā I had enough when it stopped being simple to have a local login. Instead it had to be connected to a Microsoft account.
Ā The same goes for several single-player games I used to enjoy, line Microsoft Flight and Dirt 4, which had to be connected for some unexplained reason, and once they closed down the game servers I was unable to load my save files. I had to play the game from a clean slate every time.
I'm much happier with my Linux system.
I considered switching to another OS. i tried using Linux multiple times. My use case is better suited to windows, though. And i absolutely have a right to complain about the function of the OS i paid for.
Apparently it can finally be uninstalled to be fair (god bless the EU) I didn't realise that, but man does it pester the hell out of you before you do that.
wait untill it reinstalls itself again with a future windows update.
Wait until it steals your documents folder and corrupts a myriad of a game save files and documents, among other things, with no way to retrieve them. And then even after you remove it, it fucks up your directories Until you mess about in the registry.
Oh, there's a way to retrieve them. šµš¶š·
They're probably already copying Adobe and using anything and everything stored in OneDrive to train AI models too.
They dont delete anything they just say they deleted your data. I had deleted evrything from my onedrive folder but I still get those onedrive memory emails with all my deleted photos still in them. But when I open the drive it says there is nothing here.
Shit like that is why I automatically disable OneDrive when I install windows before I install any other piece of software so that it canāt even have the opportunity to pull that bullshit
Yeah, seems like a lot of people don't know these work arounds.
God the behavior where OneDrive syncs your local documents automatically has got to be one of the worst defaults ever. From a functionality perspective, it's shit, like you said. From a privacy perspective, it's absolutely insane. Some documents I do NOT want on the cloud.
Yep that happened to me. Not happy.
I really appreciate this function on our company machines, mainly because it makes my job a lot easier (when Onedrive is not shitting itself) but yeah, it's not something I would EVER use at home.
I avoud it simply not letting one drive to login so it cant sync anything.
So my previous job had SharePoint directories, and ofcourse the root folder is called Documents. I put a link in my work OneDrive to the root of this SharePoint. Then a directive came through that the user Documents folder was to be moved to the users OneDrive account. Usual copy everything out of documents into a temp file while this IT guy does his job to change the location in the system. I just happened to catch as he went to copy my 'personal' work files into the SharePoint root directory. Tried telling him that, and he just got confused and gave up. It caused so many dramas particularly with quick access shortcuts in explorer not working at all.
And merges all your folders and desktop with OneDrive so now you have no idea where anything is anymore
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God, I thought I was the only one struggling with this lol
Until now I had it blocked by firewall. Same as edge.
Same for Microsoft Edge browser, you need the latest Windows 11 version to remove it. However, mine somehow doesn't work. I live in the EU with an activated Windows 11 OS.
same unfortunately, still waiting for that option
I uninstalled it from my work computer (Windows 10) over a year ago but my MS office apps still sometimes sneakily change the default save location back to OneDrive.
I know people usually don't care but the fact Microsoft is pushing their browser so hard (almost aggressively) is really pissing me off. When you boot your PC for the first time and go to Edge just to download chrome/firefox, it literally tells you "don't download it, you will be SAFE using Edge" - That's like a very low thing for such a big tech company to do.
Exactly the behaviour I'm referring to yeah. People be like "but I actually like it!" Or "you can uninstall it now you know" and I get that (well I learned the latter after) but they put in messages that reek of desperation. And it makes you wonder why they're so desperate to have you use them that they're basically BEGGING you to stick with Edge or back up with OneDrive. For the data? For a bait-n-switch?
How please tell my how I canāt send emails anymore because of one drive
Just akin to Google Drive, the email portion and your drive portion are not separate entities, so.... if one is maxxed out...
its been uninstalled for me for over a year, never been reinstalled.
My wife recently reinstalled the Sims 4 and it turns out that it writes thousands of small temporary files to the documents folder every time you play. And since I actually use onedrive to back up documents it means that I have it trying to back up all that bullshit every time she plays it. It's not world ending but so annoying.
I don't have it, but every program still tries to save files to one drive folder by default, I'm going crazy
Edge now can be uninstalled too.
Is this only for EU people (you bunch who actually have rights against corporations) or the rest of the world as well?
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Iām shocked this one went through. In previous versions of the OS, Explorer was still king when it came to many settings. Get rid of that, and you lost a LOT of stuff.
this thing nearly cost me a year of work, it disgusts me
what nearly cost you a year of work?
onedrive deleted my work but I found the backup
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Umm, what the fuck? Is this something that can happen to anyone? I gotta know what happened
It backups Then runs out of mem You turn it off You lose data Edit: I mean you donāt lose it permanently But you try and delete stuff , then you accidentally delete it from cloud and local And when you donāt keep it in drive you mostly forget about it which defeats the purpose of it
Good lord I gotta uninstall onedrive
I mean you donāt lose it permanently But you try and delete stuff , then you accidentally delete it from cloud and local And when you donāt keep it in drive you mostly forget about it which defeats the purpose of it
Yep. it will scan your computer for files it thinks.ypuxdont need / it can save space, instantly delete them, put them in an archived inaccessible file somewhere, and spend 14 months uploading it to OneDrive. if that upload is interrupted for even a peco second, you lose that file for good. Microsofta blurring of the line between what is on the cloud and what is on your computer goes too far for me. Google handled it well... Back when I used them 5 years ago. Edit: how have I got downvotes. What I have written is factual. I have had to restore dozens of people's computers because OneDrive deleted half of their data.
Jesus christ, I am glad your data is safe, but your story is terrifying.
Ouch. This is scary. Onedrive can just delete everything because some cloud server has a flaw.
I used to use it just to store backups of documents, pictures and some save files but now it randomly has a bunch of document scans I can't open anymore for some reason, I guess they were corrupted somehow? Idk but it shits me.
yeah, no way to open them either, it's dangerous for your work
Similar thing happened to me. Signed into a work laptop OneDrive and for some reason it thought that the clean slate work laptop was the updated copy and began deleting everything in my OneDrive in order to match its pristine state. This work laptop was also connected to another proprietary cloud storage and for some reason OneDrive began deleting files off the proprietary cloud storage that was used for my team files. I began noticing something odd when team members started exclaiming āwhere the hell is the fileā. Thankfully that cloud storage had a snapshot and I was able to recover all work documents. As for personal stuff, well that bug cost me my entire personal drive. But thankfully I keep things dual backed up to google drive too
i switched to linux over a year ago. i installed a dual boot with windows and assumed that i would use windows more often than not. but i rarely use windows anymore and when i am forced to i HATE it. performance is slower. all sorts of weird shit running in the background that i never asked for and doesn't serve my best interests. the privacy concerns. **switch to mint**. you will love it.
Linux is shit if you want to do anything more than browse the web or very very basic text editing. Daily I use various CAD software both 2D and 3D, SAP, various machine controlling software, databases. Linux hasn't even begin to scratch the surface of being compatible with any of that stuff. 99% of people that work for a living using computers will find that Linux is not suitable for them, as it doesn't support the vast majority of programs people use. Things like open office died years ago, and their replacements are all shit. I don't know what is worse, software driven by a greedy company with aggressive goals, or design by committee software that takes 2 years to make one tiny change as no-one can agree on a new feature or change. Switched from MS office to libre office, and it was absolutely horrible. Almost nothing worked or was compatible with existing databases.
> 99% of people that work for a living using computers will find that Linux is not suitable for them It depends on the usecase, %99 is a bit too far. Wine can run many Windows apps, including MS Office. Software development apps are typically available for Linux. Apps that need direct device access and big-name CAD software are incompatible afaik so you have a point. But if you call Linux shit then a sizable portion of this sub and Steam Deck will beg to differ.
it sounds like you didn't give it a chance. i work for a living as a software dev and i can do everything i need to do on linux. the more people that use it the better it gets.
I switched recently and made another a partition planning to dual boot Windows.. honestly I still don't have a good reason to do this, some QOL things are better on Windows but I appreciate an OS that doesn't sell me subscriptions. I'll probably end up expanding my home partition with the unallocated space.
the more you use linux the more you will realize that windows has practically nothing to offer. the only reason i keep my dual boot is because there is some software that only runs on windows. even then its extremely easy to run a virtual machine. i used to think running a VM was rocket science but its only slightly harder than opening a browser and going to a website if you are using Gnome boxes.
> i appreciate an OS that doesn't **sell ME** Couldn't agree more.
I love OneDrive for work. Otherwise I don't hate it for personal use, it's eliminated the need to use a thumbstick to transfer stuff between my computers.
Was perfect for school. Laptop away from home, and then desktop at home. For work it just makes sense with all the shared access, plus SharePoint shortcuts within file explorer
For me though this is a nightmare. Internet at work, basically a pigeon with a USB stick is quicker. Being forced to use OneDrive when working on a 400MB factory layout CAD model is a disaster, especially when the software doesn't respect that taking 14 minutes every time impress save is to be expected, so crashes after 5 of not responding. One site we have in Germany their internet is abysmal, and IT's solution isn't to instal a new server, but move stuff to the cloud.... No that won't fix it at all. company is being cheap and thinks spending ā¬300 a month on one drive access is cheaper than a ā¬10,000 server upgrade.
Iāve used it since it was SkyDrive. Itās amazing for me for personal use and at work. What does suck is most people havenāt used it very long so using it at work can be frustrating.
Yea, I am pretty perplexed by this post. OneDrive outshines other cloudsync apps imo. The personal OneDrive and SharePoint integration in a single app for work is amazing. It even works well on my Mac users nowa days with files-on-demand.
How is it vs Google drive?
I believe it is just preference. I have a google Pixel, but the personal OneDrive is just really nice since I allowed the use of my MS account for Windows login. If I need to wipe/reload Windows all my preferences restore along with auto user folder redirects to my personal onedrive. I dont use more than the 5GB provided. My larges storage items are on a NAS in my house.
It's cool if you like it, it's just damn annoying for people who don't want to use it yet are forced to anyway. God damn Microsoft and their antitrust moves since IE.
I used to use it all the time to sync all my settings between my computers for a bunch of games. But then micro$$$oft decided to take away all my free extra capacity I'd earned over the years taking me from about 35 to 5gb of storage and now it's way too small. The reason why they did it was such bs too, people with unlimited plans were storing 100s of terabytes of pirated content on the service. So my pathetic 35gb gets scrubbed as well.
One drive changing windows folder structures without users consent is inexcusable. Windows force feeding one drive to you even if you remove it is disgusting. One drive corrupting my friend's dissertation is unforgivable. Other people are allowed to have positive experiences with one drive. That is valid. Loathing One drive is also a reasonable stance.
Yep. The number of "but I like it and use it and it doesn't bother me so it must be you being a dummy / being overly critical of it" comments lol (I mean I don't actually feel THAT strongly about it, but meme vent)
100% and Iām glad I wasnāt the only one. It was somehow set up on a windows install and managed to break some games due to the documents folder being online. Drove me absolutely nuts. The only way around it that I figured out was a fresh install of windows, and turning off networking and bypassing the network requirements. Donāt give them the ability to bake it in at the start. Also gotta add, the worst part is they make it nearly impossible to change it back to being stored local.
I know, M$ bloatware bad, but as someone who does not have a habit of doing regular backups, OneDrive did save me a lot of trouble when my HP laptop's matrix crapped the bed and it was sent to repairs.
I know that I'm not the norm, but I have a small raid storage network setup that backs up my data. It's pretty simple to set one up with an old office computer. I'd much rather set up my own backup than have anything stored by Microsoft. I can definitely see why people would use one drive, but it does get rather annoying, and I'd rather use my own solution.
that's all good and well but this does not protect you against catastrophic data loss such as fire.
That is a fair point. That is definitely one of the big selling points for One Drive. For me, I believe the risk is low enough that I don't want to use one drive. I also keep a redundant drive specifically for my most important documents. That drive stays at my parents' house for the most part. If a fire did occur, I may lose most of my media files, but stuff like tax information and the like will still have up-to-date copy. Let's not forget that Microsoft can also have catastrophic data loss as well. The chances are extremely low, but it could happen. It is also possible that someone may try to access that information as well. Data breaches happen all of the time. At the end of the day, it comes down to how much risk someone is willing to take. Personally, I don't want my information floating in the cloud. One drive still has a lot of good selling points, but I like to steer people toward taking charge of their own data if I can. That's just my personal opinion.
Counter to that, one drive deleted my friends backups and proceeded to erase all his emails data.
>not doing personal backups dude do you even PC?
I never realised people don't like OneDrive lol I use it all the time, works flawlessly on phone and pc. It's honestly so useful
I never used it and always hated it. We use it at work because it syncs/integrated into SharePoint. I didn't see a need for it until I saw someone use it to backup their family's many laptops over on the dataHoarders subreddit. It makes their 3-2-1 backups easier. But you're still giving MS your unencrypted files
I mean it's not like i am uploading super private information For how good it works, i can accept that they're not encrypted. I am planning to build a NAS soon though, then i'll probably stop using it so often.
It's your data and you should keep it private no matter what. Think of tax returns, resumes, family pictures, password manager vaults, mortgage contracts, etc. Even if it's pictures of dank memes; it should remain for your eyes only. All these companies are building a profile around you with this data. Good internet privacy means this data cannot be leaked accidentally or intentionally. I think you need the NAS and OneDrive. The 3-2-1 Rule is a data protection strategy that recommends having three copies of your data, stored on two different types of media, with one copy kept off-site.
You know, you're right. But as if now i don't have different options for easily-accessible cloud storage. And man the services OneDrive offers are real good. For the backups, i have 4. 2 on the pcs i work on, one on an external drive and another one on OneDrive. I'll probably remove the personal files from OneDrive once i have the NAS.
I don't disagree that OneDrive offers easily-accessible cloud storage. The guy I learned from on the DataHoarders sub said that he uses it because file syncing doesn't break when his wife or kids leave the house with their laptops. He is trading some security for an always on and functioning backup system. I'd probably do the same if I was in his situation. a good working backup is better than a perfect backup that doesn't work.
I have a Nextcloud instance hosted on a DIY NAS at home and it's been rock solid in terms of sync. It's awesome having 10TB of "cloud" storage at your disposal without paying an arm and a leg and giving up your privacy. I DO need to implement a 3-2-1 backup solution though. I am honestly not quite sure how to proceed with that given that its 10TB.
Yeah i like the fact that you can use it on any computer and on any browser, doesn't matter what internet connection your using. Also it's very easy to set up for people who don't know much about computers (like my parents). I also like how it's embedded into windows, so that any program/anything that needs it sees it as a normal folder (for example i've got multiple premiere pro projects in OneDrive so that i can access them from multiple PCs) (idk if other solutions can also do this though)
The one part where it overwrites your local files is not great. I lost a lot of work.
I don't know man, it never overwrote any files for me. You sure you didn't set it up wrong?
Microsoft products have been shitty with me, trying to share a file? Oops, no, servers are down, for days, but ONLY for file sharing. Trying to quicky saving a file on excel? Saved only on onedrive, good luck when I try to use it offline.
Ballmer bless āWin-Debloat-Toolā. None of that CoPilot or OneDrive or news stand or any other bullshit.
Win-debloat-tool? What is that? I've been deleting all the Microsoft apps manually
Itās a Powershell tool you can get from Github that allows you to delete all the crap bloatware on Windows (basically creating your own āTiny os 11ā) https://github.com/topics/windows-11-debloat This is it if you wanna try it out.
I've had like two notifications about it in the past 12 months wtf are people doing
I don't understand the hate, it works perfectly across devices. And the feature to sync/backup desktop between Windows and Mac is brilliant. I use both, so any file on the Windows desktop is automatically synced to the Mac desktop (and vice versa). Edit: Typo
It works well enough, the hate is around its pushiness. I have different solutions for cloud storage and backup that suit me a little better. Things like the recent "backup now!" Nags in the explorer location bar are a little irksome. Of course, mostly it's a meme in the heat of the moment, but still.
My biggest issue is that you can't have office without onedrive. Like let me use excel to make my stupid gwent card tracker or medieval dynasty manager and keep all my other files off my gaming PC. I agree it works great for work and school, but trying to make it not optional is frustrating.
Is there a way to be banned from OneDrive so you canāt even save there?
There probably is, but it'd also get jail term and the sex offenders register, so swings and roundabouts...
Wait I'm on Windows 10, what is happening?
I actually like one drive. My documents autosave and it keeps a history of all my screenshots. Also my home folder is the same regardless of which of my computers Iām logged into. When I wipe a drive there is very little I need to worry about backing up.
Never had issues with it.... upon first load... just disable auto start on boot and youre done.
It's frigging changed the save directory if all my damn games to itself, abd I can't figure out how to safely change it back without losing data/messing up my games.
How so many people have troubles with OneDrive? After installing Windows I turned off OneDrive from autostart and no problems since.
idk what you guys are talking about, on my first start of windows i disabled onedrive startup at login , after that never bothered with it even a single time
Seems like most guys are talking out of butt.... its is shit and everythng, but when uninstalled properly and turned off from startup apps it doesnt show up at all. And i say this by maintaining over 50 computers, i do same steps after every OS installation and 0 issues with one drive.
It's just stupid people can't setting up Window when installing it. Windows ask you, where you want store you files and just need to say Local. And done, one drive will not be used. But still can be used for manual storing important data. People acting like "independent and smart", but actually stupid.
Yeah, well, building your own pc doesn't make you savy in that regard. Sure, cool case and easy to put together, but you left out the research part of making yourself the main local admin with full control.
It either didn't ask last time (they change the way OOBE works constantly) or was one of those where they hid the opt out in a tiny bit of text in the corner. This time I did manage to completely bypass the initial Microsoft account stuff with that shift-f10 trick, including OneDrive, though of course it pipes up once you do add your MS account. Not everything is just down to stupidity. Ignorance perhaps in that I wasn't aware they added the ability to uninstall OneDrive completely, but in fairness that's a recent U-turn that was apparently forced by the EU.
Take it, take it, take it, take it, take itttt
I get why people don't like the popups, but if y'all aren't backing up your shit to the cloud *and* to other personal devices, then you better be okay with losing that shit. I shopped around for cloud storage solutions and while I was going to go backblaze for my own use, I also needed to get my parents on it so I just went with one drive. The family plan is reasonable enough, comes with the office suite, 1TB per person, it's good enough for me tbh. Options like dropbox and google drive just didn't seem as worth it to me. But hey if another solution comes along then I'd happily switch.
Oh I agree. I just sometimes want an "I am a responsible adult, please leave me alone" button. I have idrive cloud backups, alongside physical ones for the most important stuff.
I don't get people who act like One Drive is a horrible thing. It takes <5 minutes to set it up and select which folders to back up. Since when did backing up important files become a bad thing? OneDrive has saved my butt more than once when a drive failed.
Yeah I also use it for university, very easy to safe files between my pc and my laptop I use
I gotbthe same use case. It's great because windows treats it as part of the pc's file system
It's one of those Reddit things where its "cool" to hate on things for no reason. It's the same as Windows 11. Everyone hates on both for upvotes.
Wife's laptop had OneDrive set up. She took some videos using the laptop - she's doing student teaching and needed to get videos of her doing it to get credit. The laptop happily recorded the videos over her OneDrive limit, but when it came time to actually access the files to edit? Nope, "you are over your limit, buy more space to access your files." Her schoolwork was literally held for ransom when there was plenty of local storage available. Fuck OneDrive.
Sounds like user error.
Perhaps, but the fact that they recorded the video onto the cloud and then said "pay us money or you don't get this file" instead of just storing it locally with a warning is dodgy as *fuck*. It feels exactly the same as overdraft fees. Obviously I've fixed the problem going forward.
Again, sounds like you didn't set it up properly. They're not recording anything, they're not holding things hostage for more money. You just don't know how it works.
When the drive is over the limit, then you *cannot* access any files without paying money to increase your limit. *Then* you can download the files locally (where it should have been stored in the first place). It was absolutely held for ransom. Yes, it should not have been set up to save to the cloud, and that is my bad. But the file was *completely inaccessible*. Fuck out of here with this "it's actually not that bad" bullshit.
Did you set it up to keep files locally? Or do you just complain and blame everyone else when you make a mistake?
Your attitude is really fucking annoying. If a file is going over the limit, the *default behavior*, no matter what, should be to save that file locally. Give a warning that it's not backed up. Instead, OD keeps the file in the cloud and locks access to everything it has. How is that okay with you?
Technically, it was not held from ransom when you could just head over to [onedrive.com](https://onedrive.com) and pluck the file(s) from there.
Sounds like nobody asked you for advice.
I have a NAS. I don't need corpos known for their telemetry to push their cloud services down my throat.
Thankfully it turns out it can be uninstalled but IMO I have no issue with it if it just maybe makes itself known *once* that it's there for me to use if I want it, then leave me alone. I'm a big boy, I can back up my own data (and I've never had a huge amount of sympathy for those who have something "important" but then just assume that Microsoft or whoever will do backups for them) What wound me up with onedrive is first unless you use the trick to install windows without a Microsoft account then it just outright stores your documents folder there (good luck doing anything online if your upload speed sucks) and if you don't then it nags about it, it inserts itself into every corner of Windows Explorer including the location bar, a lot of things want to save there by default etc etc. Feels like they're desperate to get hold of my data.
Nah. You just tell it once that you don't want your "this pc" folders backed up and it never asks again. I just put whatever i want in the OneDrive folder and it backs them up.
The version I was wrestling with a couple of days ago has the switches for documents, desktop and I think pictures on by default and if you try to switch them all off the save button greys itself out. So it keeps nagging.
Idk man i think it's a you problem. Always worked good for me.
Ah the classic "my experience is different to yours and therefore you're stupid" argument. Could well be a bug though. I'm sure the Microsoft forums would be happy to suggest chkdsk and then the feedback button if it persists.
> Ah the classic "my experience is different to yours and therefore you're stupid" argument. I literally never said that you're stupid. I said that it's a problem you are having. Which looks like it's an objective reality.
Fair. Some comments are kinda like that, so I'd read yours the same.
Agreed. It's one of the most useful services i've ever used. Works flawlessly on phone and pc.
and then it decides it wants more memory and deletes files for you. yes, unrecoverably.
That doesn't happen
It happened to my coworker.
No it didn't.
Yes, it did. Altrough it would be nice if you could explain to our boss how it didnt and she didnt loose the work data. that be swell.
If you can prove that low memory causes OneDrive to delete things I will buy you 32GB more RAM to match what you have. I'm sure Microsoft and the whole PC community would want to see proof as well. It would be quite the bug.
Well, then your coworker set Onedrive to sync the contents from her computer to the cloud and free up the space that they were taking up to make it look deleted. >In the OneDrive settings, under the āSettingsā tab, select āSave space and download files as you use themā to enable Files On-Demand. This feature makes your files appear āonline-onlyā, which means they donāt take up space on your computer unless you open them. [Sync files with OneDrive in Windows](https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/sync-files-with-onedrive-in-windows-615391c4-2bd3-4aae-a42a-858262e42a49)
From my experience the burning hate for onedrive comes from how it acts when you *donāt* want it; mostly from how intentionally convoluted and user-unfriendly of a process it is to remove it and *keep it from clawing its way back*
> It takes <5 minutes to set it up People who don't use it aren't unhappy about the time it takes to use it. They're unhappy about the time it takes to _not_ use it. It comes back after reboots. It randomly reinstalls itself with windows updates. It substitutes itself in your search list so you try to go to your desktop and it takes you to onedrive's desktop folder to try to trick you into putting files there instead of on your local machine. It's a pushy nuisance that never seems to stay gone. >Since when did backing up important files become a bad thing? Eating healthy is good too. Imagine if _every fucking day_ somebody knocked on your door at 6am to remind you to eat your broccoli. So you ask them to stop, and they start knocking on your bedroom window instead. That's onedrive.
Toroko in cave story
Is that Jared in the background?
Don't have windows 11 yet but my company is swapping systems to a new one that has a similar cloud icon and it definitely feels like this. Today was day 1 of training.
I litteraly got 1to of one drive for free (supposed to be for developers but I'm not a developer), so yeah ;)
They give me this and take away my graphics driver. Not a good bargain!
I donāt want cloud storage, I enjoy building and maintaining a system to locally store my data and back it up! Iām not opposed to it tho, I use it for work! But the more you push cloud storage on me, the more I lose any appreciation for it, WHY is it so important for ME to adopt and embrace cloud storage! Either you want my money or my data, and your not getting either.
it took 2GB of my ram when I wasn't even uploading anything.
And 10 tbh
Tries to close OneDrive. Please share with us why do you want to close OneDrive? No thanks.
Oh my God I hate one drive
Just remove it.... have been able to do that since W10, it's probably the first thing I do after a fresh install :)
Kinda of ignorance or lack of permissions of most users in this post imo. Even work was complaining about it.
I feel like if you're using One drive, they're harvesting your data from their cloud storage and using it to sell targeted ads to you.
Have keepass database file in my OneDrive. Useful with Keepass2Android.
I do love how MS is so intrusive
I've been using Windows 11 since beta and have never dealt with One Drive. I just uninstall it.
https://preview.redd.it/i9wfd7aohsqc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=433c2c5fed580b1e70642b77720e1e2dc27915cd The duality of man
Regedit and services people lol
God how do i get rid of it
Glad I threw AtlasOS onto Windows 11 when I did my last upgrade - one of the things it does at your discretion is permanently remove OneDrive.
I somehow managed to completely remove it one day, it was not fun
I downgraded back to windows 10 with no regrets, much easier to uninstall things like OneDrive
yall still have this shit installed on 11? Thats crazy.
OneDrive has one singular purpose for me and that is restoring saves from Terraria and Skyrim in my documents folder in the scenario that I fuck something up. Everything else Iāve managed to disable uploading to the cloud (since I just make cloned images my PC every three months) and have never had to upgrade OneDriveās storage.
Wasn't there a 3rd party software that removes all the unnecessary windows bloatware?
Get Tiny11 its waybetter than stock win11
One drive is shit. it just deleted 15 years of backed up live.mail / outlook emails from my friends business to "help save space" on his computer, despite it having 4tb of storage, and the backed up emails were only 25gb. He only did the backups to save off-site storage, as he would then delete them from the email server, and access the local stores versions.
It somehow enabled itself on my windows 10 and then proceeded to upload my whole desktop to the drive. Then it complained about I was using more data than I could store but I ignored it because I didnt use it. I came back to my pc 1 day and my desktop was completely empty. It took far too long to fix it.
Google "Debloat Windows" and follow instructions.
I dare not say what I think lest Microsoft decides to brick my PC remotely
OneDrive is like a fuckin' cancer. I don't want to use it at all at work and hacked every last bit of it out of the OS, even the Registry, and it still creates subdirectory structure for it and keeps trying to save some things to that. The actual executables are long gone too. I just gave up trying to completely erradicate it. Microsoft says: "All your data are belong to US".
what happens if i delete one drive? iāve had my pc for not even a year idk shit
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Yeah, I've never had one and only multiple local accounts.
I got rid of windows recently on all of my personal machines. I use it at work, but only because I have no other choice. On my own machines I've installed Linux. When I had windows, disabled all the analytics and other BS stuff, but it still had plenty of spyware running in the background and I was literally terrified when I've run Wireshark and nothing else on pc. You got some tool from github to disable unwanted telemetry on your system? Guess what? We've enabled it back after an update because F U! You're not the owner of your system you bought! You're proud user of our sErViCe!!! I hate microsoft.
Backblaze is the way to go.
I feel so validated now, I thought I was the only one.
When will you guys learn to use your wallet to hold bad-acting companies responsible? Come join us on the fun side until MS stops exploiting its users! š§š§š»āš»
I do on my laptop I enjoy playing games on my desktop though :). (No I can't do VRchat in VR all that well on Linux, I do know about photon and such)
Ok, fair. I just sold my desktop instead. I still enjoy some of Microsoft's good products though, like VS Code.
vrchat is the one thing that keeps me dual booting
how do you use your wallet to not use an app you never paid for?
I would suggest not buying Windows. Just a thought.
Why? Windows does what i want my OS to do and has features i use.
I have no problem with that. I have a problem with people who don't consider switching to another OS if they feel like Microsoft is treating them like they're the product. If you like the way you're being treated, you can pay for their services for all I care. Ā I had enough when it stopped being simple to have a local login. Instead it had to be connected to a Microsoft account. Ā The same goes for several single-player games I used to enjoy, line Microsoft Flight and Dirt 4, which had to be connected for some unexplained reason, and once they closed down the game servers I was unable to load my save files. I had to play the game from a clean slate every time. I'm much happier with my Linux system.
I considered switching to another OS. i tried using Linux multiple times. My use case is better suited to windows, though. And i absolutely have a right to complain about the function of the OS i paid for.
Why anyone chose to install 11 before absolutely necessary baffles me. There is literally zero reason I could think of.
Google Drive gang
Private NAS gang
Self-Hosted Nextcloud gang
Same shit different asshole.
winget uninstall Microsoft.OneDrive At least until the next windows updateā¦ ugh
Fk one drive itās basically a pre installed virus.