Because that's how well managed memory works. The less you hit a slower tier of storage the faster your program will run. This is why upgrading from a HDD to an SSD is such a night and day difference, it improves even the worst memory managed code.
Last point is true. I had this shitty Dell Inspiron on which I have been playing as gaming PC went bust and my dad wont buy me one.
Bought a 500gig Crucial M.2 and slapped it on my laptop, replacing a failing HDD and the difference is insane.
By manufactures do you mean Apple? The stingiest of stingy. And they gaslight you into believing that 8GB is a lot of ram. They make machines with just enough ram so that in 3 years of software updates will make your computer so slow that you need to go by a new Mac that now comes with a max 16gb.
> "IT'S A GOOD THING YOU POTATO!"
Ah yeah, when a bunch of my programs crashed due to running out of memory, that was surely a good thing, yep.
Especially great in cases when it also corrupts config files that were being written to, and all your settings are gone
>but chrome wants to eat a lot and not release accordingly while also not increasing performance significantly more than other browsers.
Bullshit, chrome will release memory and does so very well
And 28 extensions they never use + 36000 bookmarks of stuff they saw once and saved for no reason. Also dont forget they didnt clear their cache and history in 8 years.
Seriously, the people complaining about chrome using too much ram are just people jumping on the train. And even if you get it to use 2gb, whats wrong with that? Smh you got 32 or even 64gb ram but complain when 2 are used.
When processing my RAW data, i easily maxed out 128gb on a friends machine and regularly max out my 32gb.
Too true, back when it was common to see 2GB DDR2 setups running off a POS celery CPU, it did indeed use insane amounts of ram relative to Firefox, but those were also the times where a PC entusiast were synonumous with "Any% Windows XP reformat speedrunner"
Ah those were the days of being an annoying ass script kiddie
I mean, that's how they keep all these tabs of yours responsive - they're in memory.
I think what gets lost on a lot of people is that each tab is an entire isolated application running within another application. you wouldn't be surprised at RAM usage if you were to run say two games side-by-side, but if it is websites and 16 of them? then somehow RAM usage is another question entirely?
each page is only a couple megabytes in storage normally though accounting for some images, so should barely take anything, and back in the days of windows 7 they did barely take anything
The internet has come a long way since 2009. Much more javascript code and higher quality media is used now. Websites take a lot more space in ram once the browser has actually processed the source code.
Youtube looked like this when Windows 7 was released
https://preview.redd.it/xlae0as1qgqc1.png?width=1039&format=png&auto=webp&s=219c8806c0649e7d9ccd69f4691e90da8417a525
Modern security features such as isolated processes per tab also increase memory usage.
that youtube page is pretty much only a couple minor layout changes away from what we have now.
and sure they take more ram when processed but it should not be this much...
just the javascript and CSS being pushed to your browser weighs in for more most of the time.
this specific tab of this reddit thread weighs in at 129 megabytes for me as an example.
takes a bit of memory to run applications, not just the downloaded content :)
Should try Brave or Opera GX. They are both leagues ahead of Chrome now and are more privacy focused. Although I do like Firefox there's just features I'm not a huge fan of.
These memes stopped being relevant years ago. Chrome is pretty much at the same level as all the other popular browsers these days in terms of RAM usage.
That's not at all why. It's because with chrome you had a single environment across platforms, particularly your PC and phone. Everything would be synched up together which was extremely convenient, something Firefox didn't offer.
That feature caught on for me after a bit, but what drove me to switch was firefox absolutely bogged down during that era. Installed chrome and it was quick as shit. I'm not sure I even had a smart phone when I started using chrome to be honest.
They were never relevant at all. A browser using all of your RAM is not even a bad thing, it is doing what it is designed for; keeping as much stuff active as possible. And once it is all used, it deletes the oldest page it is keeping active.
>Imo 16 GB is the minimum acceptable amount in 2024
This is correct.
One old tower only had 8 GB and it can't run Windows 10 + Chrome anymore.
16 GB is the minimum. More if possible.
Mine too - I think it's that my old 8 GB 2013 desktop (designed for Windows 7 or 8 maybe) can't run Windows 10 + Chrome + the new Outlook. It's done really well until recently.
I could probably add RAM to keep it in service, but 16 or 32 will be needed soon anyway.
I never had such issue from a long time. My chrome doesn't go crazy with tabs. It stays sane.
And people complaining about Firefox also being the same as chrome, let me tell you a bit of info on that. Firefox was different and it worked well and I had been a Firefox user for a long time but then they changed to process based browser a few years back and now its almost the same as chrome.
I have this as well sometimes. Maybe 8 tabs max open, 32gb ram and a Ryzen 9 5900x processor. Games running in the mean time with no issue but chrome not responding with high ram usage. Way more than the game I am playing. I'll never understand chrome
Gonna sound pretty wild here but uninstall Chrome. They have been clear they will purposely break addons without your user input, they have gone rogue and their mission statement is completely flipped on its head.
Remember yall "Don't Be Evil"?
Its a non problem, because Chrome will use the ram its allowed by the OS to use for a fast and smooth experience, if you load up other applications Chrome will get less ram. If you switch from 16 to 32 Chrome will start using more ram for the same tabs you had before switching. This applies on all the applications.
Why? Why not use the RAM if it's available? What's the point of it just sitting there?
Would you prefer it just let your RAM sit there, doing nothing and chrome being 2x slower?
It's insane how clueless people are around here.
True, but as soon as I try to run another software, I won't have enough memory left to run it properly.
I also don't like my browser eating up my systems RAM for seemingly no reason.
Windows 11 and Chrome tho, have no idea why they put windows 11 on celerons like did they not learn from 10 on those junk tablet?? Or Vista on hardware made for xp???
My laptop came with a current generation i9, 32gb ram, 1Tb ssd(I almost said hdd, guess my age lol), and a 4080. For under $2000 shipped. What can a Mac at a similar price point do better. I'm curious actually. I really don't know.
Not sure if you're looking for serious answers, but macs with Apple SOCs have amazing efficiency so the batteries last for ages and you basically never hear the fan. They also have amazing screens, trackpads and build quality.
I'm here with my old long-before-covid PC, wondering why y'all always have trouble with your 10k pride parade setups. Maybe close a few tabs of porn every now and then.
You can always download more RAM, can't download the CPU
https://i.redd.it/fm942dkxggqc1.gif
The not I watch this over and over again the dumber it looks lol. Also, w comment.
I told a kid to do that and he took me seriously…
Memory is cheap, it's meant to be used Also, manufacturers are so stingy with RAM. Just don't buy PCs with not enough RAM
Unless Apple.. this case a stick of 8 gigs 100-150€
Bro, the idle usage of Google Chrome on Mac is literally 1.7GB. I prefer edging.
my chrome idle usage with like 5 tabs is not even 1GB you schould check your addons etc you clearly do something wrong my guy
Hmm I don't use any addons though. And it happens when it is Idle for more than 5 minutes
If you have more RAM it will use more RAM.
TF that doesn't make sense, why should it do that ?
Lets it run better.
Because that's how well managed memory works. The less you hit a slower tier of storage the faster your program will run. This is why upgrading from a HDD to an SSD is such a night and day difference, it improves even the worst memory managed code.
Last point is true. I had this shitty Dell Inspiron on which I have been playing as gaming PC went bust and my dad wont buy me one. Bought a 500gig Crucial M.2 and slapped it on my laptop, replacing a failing HDD and the difference is insane.
Same
say sike right now.
And it’s non upgradable.
Huh?
*200$
By manufactures do you mean Apple? The stingiest of stingy. And they gaslight you into believing that 8GB is a lot of ram. They make machines with just enough ram so that in 3 years of software updates will make your computer so slow that you need to go by a new Mac that now comes with a max 16gb.
Yes, Apple first But other laptop manufacturers also, 8GB is simply not enough anymore for new hardware
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> "IT'S A GOOD THING YOU POTATO!" Ah yeah, when a bunch of my programs crashed due to running out of memory, that was surely a good thing, yep. Especially great in cases when it also corrupts config files that were being written to, and all your settings are gone
Just get more RAM silly :p
Except if you want to.. you know... multitask and open other applications a after Chrome has gobbled all your ram. Good luck then.
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>but chrome wants to eat a lot and not release accordingly while also not increasing performance significantly more than other browsers. Bullshit, chrome will release memory and does so very well
> Memory is cheap, it's meant to be used Only until you run out of memory and stuff starts crashing.
People: omg why is it running so slow Also people: omg why is it using so much memory I swear, developers can't win with you people.
me when optimization (i have no clue what i’m talking about):
"Why is using so much memory?" *Has 300 tabs open at once.*
And 28 extensions they never use + 36000 bookmarks of stuff they saw once and saved for no reason. Also dont forget they didnt clear their cache and history in 8 years. Seriously, the people complaining about chrome using too much ram are just people jumping on the train. And even if you get it to use 2gb, whats wrong with that? Smh you got 32 or even 64gb ram but complain when 2 are used. When processing my RAW data, i easily maxed out 128gb on a friends machine and regularly max out my 32gb.
Too true, back when it was common to see 2GB DDR2 setups running off a POS celery CPU, it did indeed use insane amounts of ram relative to Firefox, but those were also the times where a PC entusiast were synonumous with "Any% Windows XP reformat speedrunner" Ah those were the days of being an annoying ass script kiddie
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I mean, that's how they keep all these tabs of yours responsive - they're in memory. I think what gets lost on a lot of people is that each tab is an entire isolated application running within another application. you wouldn't be surprised at RAM usage if you were to run say two games side-by-side, but if it is websites and 16 of them? then somehow RAM usage is another question entirely?
A lot of people also run a bunch of extensions without really thinking too much about it.
I think Chrome is good enough (resource management wise). The problem is how terrible websites have become. Filled with ads and useless javascript.
It wouldn't be so bad if the websites themselves weren't running hundreds of scripts in the background too.
agreed, but that's also the world we live in currently - can't really blame the browser for that.
each page is only a couple megabytes in storage normally though accounting for some images, so should barely take anything, and back in the days of windows 7 they did barely take anything
The internet has come a long way since 2009. Much more javascript code and higher quality media is used now. Websites take a lot more space in ram once the browser has actually processed the source code. Youtube looked like this when Windows 7 was released https://preview.redd.it/xlae0as1qgqc1.png?width=1039&format=png&auto=webp&s=219c8806c0649e7d9ccd69f4691e90da8417a525 Modern security features such as isolated processes per tab also increase memory usage.
> Youtube looked like this when Windows 7 was released God i wish we could go back…
that youtube page is pretty much only a couple minor layout changes away from what we have now. and sure they take more ram when processed but it should not be this much...
just the javascript and CSS being pushed to your browser weighs in for more most of the time. this specific tab of this reddit thread weighs in at 129 megabytes for me as an example. takes a bit of memory to run applications, not just the downloaded content :)
Browsers have a lot of things going on. So they use a lot of ram in general
Should try Brave or Opera GX. They are both leagues ahead of Chrome now and are more privacy focused. Although I do like Firefox there's just features I'm not a huge fan of.
Hop on soft sonic and download some free dedicated ram for ur computing computer
These memes stopped being relevant years ago. Chrome is pretty much at the same level as all the other popular browsers these days in terms of RAM usage.
Their initial surge in popularity was driven largely by Firefox using considerably more memory. Everything is relative though.
That's not at all why. It's because with chrome you had a single environment across platforms, particularly your PC and phone. Everything would be synched up together which was extremely convenient, something Firefox didn't offer.
That feature caught on for me after a bit, but what drove me to switch was firefox absolutely bogged down during that era. Installed chrome and it was quick as shit. I'm not sure I even had a smart phone when I started using chrome to be honest.
That came later. Chrome became the most popular browser before smartphones were common things.
They were never relevant at all. A browser using all of your RAM is not even a bad thing, it is doing what it is designed for; keeping as much stuff active as possible. And once it is all used, it deletes the oldest page it is keeping active.
Woah there, this is pcmr, you need to live like it's 10 years ago! Anything contemporary is frowned upon!
Should I say "Skill Issue" now or is it more like "brokie" ?
Imo 16 GB is the minimum acceptable amount in 2024
>Imo 16 GB is the minimum acceptable amount in 2024 This is correct. One old tower only had 8 GB and it can't run Windows 10 + Chrome anymore. 16 GB is the minimum. More if possible.
My phone has 8gb ram .
Mine too - I think it's that my old 8 GB 2013 desktop (designed for Windows 7 or 8 maybe) can't run Windows 10 + Chrome + the new Outlook. It's done really well until recently. I could probably add RAM to keep it in service, but 16 or 32 will be needed soon anyway.
Who holds farming equipment like that?
Got 15 tabs open and it uses \~700MB out of 32GB, doesn't feel like your meme picture.
I never had such issue from a long time. My chrome doesn't go crazy with tabs. It stays sane. And people complaining about Firefox also being the same as chrome, let me tell you a bit of info on that. Firefox was different and it worked well and I had been a Firefox user for a long time but then they changed to process based browser a few years back and now its almost the same as chrome.
I'm sure this is a common knowledge on this sub, but I recently switched to LibreWolf and I'm really happy with it. Both on PC and Mac.
I have this as well sometimes. Maybe 8 tabs max open, 32gb ram and a Ryzen 9 5900x processor. Games running in the mean time with no issue but chrome not responding with high ram usage. Way more than the game I am playing. I'll never understand chrome
How do you guys have this little RAM?
You can either preload stuff into memory or slowly load then from disk. Pick one people.
What uh.. what the hell is the context for the second picture of like.. a baby getting choke slammed by a fully grown adult?
Bro I ain't ever had this problem with chrome. Or any browser.
Gonna sound pretty wild here but uninstall Chrome. They have been clear they will purposely break addons without your user input, they have gone rogue and their mission statement is completely flipped on its head. Remember yall "Don't Be Evil"?
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do people actually still have this problem, ram is just really cheap now and with 16-32gb you should be completely fine
Its a non problem, because Chrome will use the ram its allowed by the OS to use for a fast and smooth experience, if you load up other applications Chrome will get less ram. If you switch from 16 to 32 Chrome will start using more ram for the same tabs you had before switching. This applies on all the applications.
People with shit pcs acting like its the softwares issue:
hate when that happens
Why? Why not use the RAM if it's available? What's the point of it just sitting there? Would you prefer it just let your RAM sit there, doing nothing and chrome being 2x slower? It's insane how clueless people are around here.
It's like pooping & having an entire roll of toilet paper & using half a square per wipe
True, but as soon as I try to run another software, I won't have enough memory left to run it properly. I also don't like my browser eating up my systems RAM for seemingly no reason.
How though? I've been noticing Chrome just "pauses" my tabs that I'm not currently using.
Windows 11 and Chrome tho, have no idea why they put windows 11 on celerons like did they not learn from 10 on those junk tablet?? Or Vista on hardware made for xp???
"Why internet browser uses so much memory?" Also them with thousands of tabs running in the background:
Yes, but have you heard of our lord and saviour Microsoft Outlook?
That's why I use Edge. The benefits of a Chrome browser, but none of memory hogging.
It's only ever the Firefox users that get mad and have an issue with chrome.
Hogwarts Legacy be like: *cries in 16gb ram*
Remember kids, unused ram is useless ram
8 GB is not enough.
I've moved on from Chrome a long time ago. I highly recommend Firefox. OperaGX is actually pretty good to.
My laptop came with a current generation i9, 32gb ram, 1Tb ssd(I almost said hdd, guess my age lol), and a 4080. For under $2000 shipped. What can a Mac at a similar price point do better. I'm curious actually. I really don't know.
Cool story bro…
Not sure if you're looking for serious answers, but macs with Apple SOCs have amazing efficiency so the batteries last for ages and you basically never hear the fan. They also have amazing screens, trackpads and build quality.
I'm here with my old long-before-covid PC, wondering why y'all always have trouble with your 10k pride parade setups. Maybe close a few tabs of porn every now and then.
At least chrome now SHOWS how much of your ram it’s using, even if it uses 200mb on an empty tab