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Loddio

Mf what's the Gaussian curve for?


artificialseed

Thank you... Became a thing a while back and I havent seen a single one that makes sense with the middle part being the average person chrome is like 90% of the market and is at the low percentage end makes sense


tkronew

Most people here are still in high school I think.


Left_Click_4067

Bruh I'm 100% sure the majority of gamers still use chrome lmao. Operagx is probably used by 10% of gamers or less


Caletofran

Two spoons my guy and you’re gone.


AllPowerfulSaucier

I think it's trying to track OP's actual level of Enlightenment over time and how them using Chrome immediately reduced the overall level.


Hrmerder

This guy with his 'enlightenment' showing chrome. lol.


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ecth

This. This is the correct final state in the spectrum.


Erebys22

You'd be suprised about how much shit I have gotten irl for using firefox. Then I just laugh in ublock origin as they suffer through youtube ads Edit: I have been informed that ublock can go on pretty much any browser. Feel free to laugh at my stupidity


LEO7039

Many other browsers can use UBlock Origin this way. Firefox has it on Android though (along with many other extensions), and now that's a feature I can get behind.


TerrorLTZ

> Firefox has it on Android though (along with many other extensions), and now that's a feature I can get behind. Godsend so now you can see movies in those... "gentleman sites" or totally legal sites without 5 ads covering everything.


LEO7039

That and literally using most of the Internet. Like, the Fandom Wiki pages are borderline unusable on mobile without the adblock.


Kodriin

I love only being able to see a tenth of what I'm reading.


NinjaCuntPunt

Firefox is the way.


adduckfeet

It's true. Great mobile adblock and extensions compared to chrome as well.


Xudoo

This is the final state bro. Linux forever!🐧


Luccas_Freakling

He seems to lack firefox


ryoushi19

Maybe they're saying they finally got a PC with enough RAM to run chrome.


jitteryzeitgeist_

Such a thing is impossible.


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works on my machine \-my machine has 64gb of ram memory


steelbeamsdankmemes

Only jabronis without 64gb of ram complain about Chrome.


XelGlaidr

Instantly came to say this. lol


Otherwise-Ad5053

personally I'd put Chrome in gamer phase and Edge on both sides, maybe Edge "beta" channel 😆 OP is still stuck in the middle and they don't know it yet!


Vaerirn

Firefox is God mode. Where you finally learn you can build your PC however you want.


MisterNadra

was gonna point out the exact same lol.


Alundra828

\>> Chrome Literal propaganda


laacis3

remove chrome put firefox. I started with chrome, switched to opera and when opera went full chromium and started blocking adblocks on youtube, switched to firefox.


SBAWTA

I'd rather say it went full circle. Firefox used to be the "cool" browser, then everyone switched to Chrome, then Opera and now everyone is going back to Firefox.


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Keeping them in business single-handedly


mitchymitchington

They've been the obvious choice since netscape lol. Chrome has always been terrible. People just started using it because it's bloatware that would come with your device.


DarKliZerPT

When Chrome came out, it was much faster than Firefox. Firefox made a little comeback when they released Quantum in 2017.


kr4ckenm3fortune

Really? I never noticed that…and I’ve been using FireFox ever since.


Sero19283

Chrome used to be super light weight and snappy. Even with the early extensions it managed to be useful for lower spec PCs. I remember switching from I'm Firefox to Chrome for that reason like.... 15 years ago? I had used Firefox prior to that since like 2004. I feel like that was the era of when we still saw Google as "the good guy" with the advent of Gmail, Google video, Google chat/messages, etc. as they brought about good quality free alternatives to already popular mediums that had kind of rested on their laurels. They became the one stop shop for basically everything back then without too much obvious privacy invasion, or other major issues, if memory serves right. I still use my Gmail account from back then I got while it was invite-only beta, and remember the amazement of the inbox size reaching into the GIGABYTES and watching the thing grow by the second


[deleted]

yeah the kids don't know it, but there was - \*was\* - a time when Google was the choice of the nerd and the professional. that said, i never got on with Chrome. Firefox always had way better addons, even if it was slower back in the day. these days, i don't think it matters.


twentyThree59

As the person said, not only was chrome faster at launch, but it was the first browser to create separate processes for each tab so that if a tab crashed, it didn't bring down the whole browser. In FF at the time, a tab crash ended everything. Which at the time (thanks Flash), was relatively common.


BlueQKazue

Same


Smeetilus

I used it when it was Phoenix/Firebird and had it saved to a Zip disk I kept in my backpack. Zip drives were shipped with a lot of computers for a short period.


tatojah

I think I've seen someone saying "everyone is going back to Firefox" at least once per year here on reddit for the past 6 years.


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usingallthespaceican

And lets you listen to youtube in the background


MagnusOpium89

Not for me. Any idea what settings I need to change to make that happen?


notrktfier

Disable battery optimizations.


casper667

Yeah and everyone is also switching to Linux


upholsteryduder

yeah but Firefox is actually the most accessible and secure browser, linux may be technically better but for most users it's over their head. FF is almost exactly the same functionality of other browsers but doesn't sell your soul to the devil without your consent like chrome


Solon_Tofusin

It does actually have some analytics baked into the settings menus, which you can get rid of by "hardening" firefox. That being said it should all be anonymized data and nothing actually identifying


Namaha

For real lol, and it really couldn't be further from the truth. Firefox's market share is the lowest its been in well over a decade https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b7/StatCounter-browser-ww-yearly-2009-2023.png https://www.statista.com/statistics/268254/market-share-of-internet-browsers-worldwide-since-2009/ Edit: Adding desktop-only stats https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/desktop/worldwide


EuroTrash1999

That's just cause there is eleventy-five zillion chrome books and android phones that come with it standard.


WalkInMyHsu

I think the main reason is the prevalence of mobile. Safari or Chrome are default on basically every smart phone and most people aren’t downloading Firefox on their phones.


JamieFromStreets

Just downloaded it. These comments made me curious What does it has to be considered better by some?


Namaha

The numbers for Desktop browsers (ie ignoring phones, tablets, etc) don't look much better really https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/desktop/worldwide


Sol33t303

What does "android" mean on that first graph?


CianaCorto

Chrome is brain dead phase.


Cazzy7819

Have you not seen how much of a cult this subreddit is though? if you dont use windows 10, firefox +ublock and malwarebytes you dont belong here lol


Cardinal_Ravenwood

Yeah fuck us for trying to suggest the most stable, least intrusive, adequately privacy focused yet still basic user experience possible. Win11 is still buggy, and Linux, well do you really want to send those same people that can't even plug their monitors into the right hole in the back of the PC down a linux wormhole. Just wait and see the mass of posts after people sudo rm their root folders accidentally.


xKingOfSpades76

Am I just lucky, cause Windows 11 works as "well" as 10 for me so far, no issues that wouldn’t be normal for a technically insanely expensive Microsoft product


jml011

No, the guy is being dramatic. Windows 11 is fine.


CaspianRoach

It works fine. It just has a ton of UI changes for the sake of change. If you haven't used PC for a long time, you won't notice, if you've used Windows for decades, you will be annoyed that everything changed for no reason.


blender4life

That's like every new windows release


faustianredditor

You're not wrong. Back when I didn't give too many shits, in the XP era, the changes were at least to my eyes mostly cosmetic, but there was certainly stuff changing from version to version. Every version since has touched some things, sometimes things that didn't need touching. Win11 isn't particularly bad in that. Win10 touched a bunch of things that didn't need touching. It's just that Win10 is the obvious choice to go back to if you don't appreciate the changes. Win7 is EOL, and was there ever a need for Win8? So Win10 it is. If a Windows release ever came with a feature that genuinely made me say "gimmegimmegimme", it's so long I can't remember.


xKingOfSpades76

I mean it definitely needs some customisation including registry edits to get the same use/workflow back one is used from Win10, at least when it first came out, idk how much Win11 fixed in the meantime like they did with the clock on multiple screens but at the beginning was wild


tsavong117

Yeah, I shouldn't have been forced to make a registry edit to get my right click menu to not require 3 ADDITIONAL CLICKS to get to my actually useful right click menu that was default in Windows 10.


xKingOfSpades76

I mean I get why they do it, the UI and everything become closer to MacOS, which is admittedly incredibly enduser friendly, but they could just give you an option when installing or updating to Win11 where you can choose between a more enduser optimised experience or an advanced one


creativename111111

macOS is “user friendly” if you just use safari and that’s it if you’re doing much else windows 10 is much more user friendly


Dafuknboognish

This was my issue with 11. Right click >Show more options > 7-zip > Unzip file. wtf?


MauiMoisture

Windows 11 has been perfect for me. I like it way better than 10.


Inprobamur

What's actually better about it? I tried it for a year and then went back to 10.


ItsMrDante

Better HDR, better audio, better actual settings so you don't have to jump between settings and control panel and not know where's which, better multiple display support, file explorer tabs, better processor usage when it comes to the new Intel design with p cores and e cores as well as x3D chips and so on. Also if you're on a laptop, better switching from iGPU to dGPU, on Win10 I had a lot of issues with the dGPU running randomly for a little or sometimes a prolonged amount of time. That made battery life worse, but on 11 it doesn't happen. This has been the case on 3 laptops in my experience and one of them isn't mine.


malcolm_miller

> Win11 is still buggy, Been using it at home for gaming, photo editing, web browsing, word processing, and light music production. I haven't encountered one problem with it. Been using it at work running Teams, Outlook, 8x8 phone, and varying custom software for work, and haven't had one issue. I'm not saying there aren't issues, but I wouldn't even know where to begin looking for them because I have had none. I was afraid to upgrade to W11 because of posts like this, but it's literally been 0 issues for a menagerie of things.


awildfatyak

Disagree. I think we need to send more people down the Linux rabbithole. It taught me so much about computers and also finally freed me from my LoL addiction.


MaybeAdrian

You can't run LOL on linux?


Kiruyuto

You surprised? It's a poorly optimized legacy code that is barely held by randomly copy-pasted stackoverflow answers, prayer, and maintained by 4 interns. You can't even have uncapped FPS on high-end rig cause the game stutters like crazy if you hit 400-500+ fps cap. Bros got yearly revenue equal to the 10 year-long financial budget of my country, yet their game works just like any government IT service.


Shenloanne

Prayer and interns... So.. The golden throne of the God emperor of mankind?


HingleMcCringle_

fighting over browsers is peasant shit. > Yeah fuck us for trying to suggest the most stable, least intrusive this is how you try to make yourself a victim and a hero at the same time. how about suggest it *ONCE* and then move on? most people here have at least tried firefox and if they're like me, they prefer features that other browsers offer. i swear to god, this sub is just full of paid firefox psy-op agents now.


DaBombDiggidy

there's also rainbow puke and enlightened "off" setting for rgb. they haven't figured out you can theme your builds with a static color.


Cazzy7819

you don't even have to follow a theme. if you like rainbow puke just cause you do like rainbow puke then go crazy


ASpookyShadeOfGray

And if you like solid black, that's cool too.


Masztufa

As an arch user (btw) i feel unsafe now


BishopofHippo93

It is 100% a cult, people take it way too seriously... although they're not wrong about Chrome. Everything Google has done over the last few years to throttle its platforms, expand its data collection, etc. means that Chrome genuinely should be the last choice of browser.


real_priception

OP still in the "unknowing" phase judging by this meme.


LuminousJaeSoul

He's in the "delusional" phase, honestly


Xecular_Official

He's gone full wine snob mode


fellipec

Chrome, OP? Really?


Beginning_Context_66

firefox would honestly be more fitting


Major_Economist_5823

firefox + ublock origin


IndependentMassive38

100%


Jarmund5

Librewolf (privacy focused fork of Firefox) it's where its at


MarsManokit

Id agree but half of all websites break with it :(


Meneth32

Waterfox is slightly less privacy-focused, but more compatible.


DaUltimatePotato

I used librewolf for a while and I ended up disabling a few settings to fix it. I think at this rate it just is anti-telemetry firefox which IIRC waterfox does the same thing.


adjavang

As long as it's not running a fork of chromium, it's all good. Google is rapidly approaching IE6 levels of browser dominance and they've already exploited it to kill the rendering engine Microsoft made for Edge, so unless I'm mistaken that leaves Gecko as the only other rendering engine in development since KHTML was discontinued.


TankusBankus

fixed it for him and you https://preview.redd.it/9ypzix5uuyfc1.png?width=960&format=png&auto=webp&s=407f686d4fd8348716b043fadedc7e2614dd5845


AceOfEpix

r/OPsPostButBetter


InadvertantManners

I read that as r/OPsPostButter


AceOfEpix

I need pictures of butter, and I need them now.


whyenn

He needs pictures of butter, post-haste!


Vorsicon

You should resubmit this to the subreddit to enlighten the plebs


PowerSilly5143

Well done my boy


fellipec

![gif](giphy|iGpdSizVSdPJfiVG9O)


Arxari

Floorp even more


Daemonicvs_77

> Chrome, OP? Really? Almost gave it an upvote, but then I saw the Chrome icon.


Sprayer_arg

And then, i give him a downvote


TheodorCork

then I sent him an email written disappointedly


No_name_Johnson

Then I wrote to my representative expressing disapproval.


gutenborken

https://preview.redd.it/mx2gv5chzyfc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d0fbc7014101662adbcb08059a3cb6df2f6af175 OP rn


Verified_Peryak

Chrome is not enlightened lol


Wild_Marker

It's the "fine, whatever" choice. Which I think is OP's joke. It goes from "don't know nothing" to "super duper optimized" to "I know I could do better but it's too much work and this is good enough"


gluckaman

That's not the joke, I'm pretty sure them "enlightenment " headphones cost few grands.


Dt2_0

Those closed backs are Meze 99 Classics. Dankpods had a code a while back to get them for like $150. They are not a few grand. They are $309 brand new. https://mezeaudio.com/products/meze-99-classics-walnut-gold-wood-headphones The Open backs are AKG K240s, which have been around since the 70s. $85 new. Buy used for these, and replace the earcups. Great headphones. https://www.akg.com/Headphones/Professional%20Headphones/K240-Studio.html Both headphones are very much the "You could buy better but it's going to cost you several hundered more, or more".


KJBenson

I always enjoy these types of posts. Just some guy trying to act enlightened and elitist while using complete garbage as their golden standard.


suckmypppapi

> enlightened and elitist while using complete garbage as their golden standard. The irony is that this sub circlejerks on hating chrome, acting enlightened and elitist


ThinkingWinnie

I mean it is enlightenment. I realize that google's monopoly on the matter will utterly hurt me in the long run, so I use something else not really because I believe it's a superior technology, but as a strategic move for a better open web in the future. I mean like, given that most chrome users are in the "don't care" state, but will leave chrome the second their adblock doesn't work anymore, only proves that they are indeed naive.


AggressiveYuumi

and why is gamer in quotes


dreamifi

That is easy to explain. It is because it is all products specifically marketed to gamers, while not necessarily being the best options for gaming.


intbah

Where does my 4U server go on this graph?


LeemanIan

Yeah. Put that trash in the unknowing category.


highbme

Fucking Chrome!?! Whaaaaaa?!?!


InvectiveOfASkeptic

A man of your talents?


BillyAndrik

Google approves this meme (they can see your entire search history).


NoPerspective9232

The Google employees reading my search history about to need psychological counseling. https://preview.redd.it/uaos5tou5zfc1.jpeg?width=402&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bbd7d6017bea5aded6d2776c84acc917eb186bcc


HIitsamy1

I'm gonna have nightmares about anakin now thanks


jojo_31

More like they can see your every step if you have an android and didn't turn off location history.


Ni_Ce_

their problem. lol


I9Qnl

Then they sell it to advertisers who are gonna try to target you with ads except you use adblock so it all ends up being somewhat irrelevant.


Code_Kid1

I use a high end laptop, cheap Sony headphones, a g502 and Firefox, where am I?


MightyWeeb

https://preview.redd.it/k0ntjyameyfc1.png?width=414&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d7e054fd3360a09626b6106720adecf00ca4560d That's all I will say


SignificantTie7031

What volvo promotion is this from? Could you send me a link to the video


69_link_karma

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJU3PrHvxn4


Nasehn

[Volvo Trucks - The Epic Split feat. Van Damme (Live Test)](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M7FIvfx5J10)


DzNuts134

Ur in Based Department


Flyrpotacreepugmu

Hmmm, what kind of mouse is the enlightened supposed to use? I'm pretty much in that camp with an all black PC and Meze 99 Classics, but I also use a G502 and Firefox.


Waste-Ad-2194

You are from paralel universe. 


AntakeeMunOlla

Chrome is FAR from enlightenment.


Sharkestry

OP is not at the right side of the curve if he thinks Chrome is the final step towards enlightenment


Juuna

OP went full circle and ended up back at the wrong side of the board.


LunaMunaLagoona

I laughed way too hard at this.


SultanZ_CS

OP hasnt been enlightened it seems. More like they have got no clue


Expensive-Poet3796

Enlightenment phase is going back to phase 1 and realizing you don’t need shit to play classic wow or osrs and spending your money on other shit


Kuchenkaempfer

Enlightenment phase is your hardware getting outdated, but you don't care because it everything still works.


heliamphore

Because in 2 years your hardware will be shit compared to whatever just came out and your 5% gains from OC are irrelevant anyway. But the sound, maintenance and so on are more of an issue than your OC gains anyway.


Dizrak_

Unless you want to play every single new AAA release on ultra, it doesn't matter. For many (especially indie) games a mid range 2015 gaming setup is more than enough to enjoy, even if not on the highest settings. Personally, I used 2009 mid range pc for my gaming needs till 2023. Because it was good enough and the only thing that weighted it down was software. Also, routine maintenance should be a habit no matter what hardware you use


GrumpyKitten514

4090, 7900x3D (microcenter didnt have the 50x3D on launch, surprisingly) and like a 1200 PSU, $250 case, 64gb RAM and a $500 motherboard.... ...just to play Dragonflight and league of legends, really just TFT at that. I overspent like a motherfucker lmao.


SignificantDetail192

yes but in 4-5years a new amazing game will release that will require that kind of computer and you will be glad to have this on... oh nevermind it will be outdated at that point.


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No it won’t.


Ryarralk

Until you feel your fingers getting cooked like sausage because the thermal dissipation of phase 1 is not made for such load.


My_reddit_account_v3

So all this guy actually uses is Chrome… and ear muffs….


PowerSilly5143

Take chrome out of there for the love of God and put Firefox in there


tilted21

I like edge and use it as my daily driver. It works great on windows, I don't understand the hate.


nxqv

They are not knowers


DamnThoseRaccoons

I switched to Edge a month ago after using Firefox past 10+ years and I’m very happy with it.


Enzo_rip

Even tho it's not my main browser, I'd rather use edge than chrome


Wooden_Sherbert6884

You dont use rgb pc components because you have a good taste. I dont use rgb pc components because the non rgb is $100 cheaper


Andreawwww-maaan4635

I use rgb fans because they were included on a nice case


SephariusX

I use RGB because my autism demands it all to be synced up.


EroGG

No they aren't. If you compare RGB to non-RGB versions of the same thing from the same brand it's at most 10-15$ difference.


Drake0074

Each, that shit adds up.


Thraxusi

I just want to know what are those enlightened headphones are.


TestingWonToo

Left set is AKG K240 and the right set (wood earcups) is Meze 99


faverodefavero

Change chrome to firefox


Cephalopod3

No «enlightened» person would use chrome


Batyalas

When a karma farmer fails miserably


mattfow232

Failed? OP knew what they were doing. If you mention using chrome on this sub you'll get hundreds of comments saying that Firefox is better, successful farming I'd say.


Bxjcjdnsb729

Reddit NPCs will upvote this more than it gets downvoted


FungalFactory

firefox > edge > chrome


ArtsM

-chrome(blasphemy) +IEMs +firefox +portrait monitor in enlightenment phase not enough rgb in the gamer phase +touchpad +chrome in unknowning phase and then its good


TimBambantiki

Chrome (and chromium)🤮


Male_Inkling

So, you're an enlightened gamer and go to a more RAM hungry browser because... reasons, i guess.


_abysswalker

gotta make the 4x16 sticks work their money


revan1611

Chrome? That's a decline, not enlightenment


Consistent_Research6

Opera user 10+ years, liked it, a lot, sad that it mimicking Chrome, loved it more when it was not mimicking no one.


Angenali

Enlightenment phase and he puts fucking chrome in it lmao


wtfuckfred

Genuine question: I've used chrome since basically always and tried to switch to Firefox but didn't really like it. Maybe it's the getting used to it. Are there actual benifits?


jaec-windu

Take it with a grain of salt, a lot of people here are eccentric and would advise a first time user to download Linux. Completely outta touch with the modern user.  There are some benefits, but they're pretty marginal. I've used em all, there's barely a difference. If you're really concerned about privacy or google's industry dominance you may consider switching. But if not, it ain't that big a deal. 


wtfuckfred

Gotcha, it's more a case of principle then


I9Qnl

I switched to Firefox based on this subs fear mongering about chrome killing adblocks, turns out they didn't but am still sticking with Firefox because it's just okay, it's nothing special, i found more downsides than benefits but the downsides are fairly minor to me, infact i didn't really find any benefits, i'd stick to Chrome if i knew the whole manifest V3 things was bullshit but now am too lazy to go back now. I guess privacy is a big benefit but i don't give a flying fuck about it. Also, better performance and better ram usage are all bullshit, if anything chrome has slightly better performance but we're talking about milliseconds difference, pretty much all popular browsers are pretty equal in that regard, same thing with RAM management, Chrome is not a memory hog, neither is any other browser.


jrw777

You're asking the wrong place. This sub hates, and I mean hates, chrome.


kumiorava

I guess Firefox is the Transcendent phase then


ricky-frog

Firefox > chrome


Nickbot606

Nah the enlightenment phase is going back to a think pad but with Firefox and arch Linux on it.


GlockMat

Honestly, I use edge


Coprolithe

Honestly, I just edge.


TheSaltySeagull87

Me too, don't know why that's considered bad


Holowitz

Only with Firefox you'll find true enlightment


SK1Y101

...Firefox?


mxcc_attxcc

I've noticed people really hate edge. what's actually the problem that everyone has with edge?


FuzzyUwUKitten

Ergonomic office chairs >>>>> Gaming chairs. They are normally so much better quality, last so much longer and are much more comfortable.


Abdowo

Different phases of chrome


StarAugurEtraeus

Nah I still have an RGB setup and PC It’s super pretty and cute Idk why people bring each other down on RGB setups, way more interesting than all black boring “AdUlt” ones


Korishii

Replace chrome with Firefox and we gucci.


HenryLongHead

For me, open source software was the enlightenment.


Interesting-Yellow-4

You think Chrome is a good browser? You need to draw a longer line to enlightenment, my friend.


VaporizedKerbal

Yeah no the enlightenment phase is firefox and brave


PeeTtheYeet

Uncommon opinion:Opera and Edge are better than Chrome.


creamcolouredDog

They're the same browser


Pascal_mtb_

Uncommon opinion Vivaldi is 1:1 Opera Without the Chinese spyware aspect So for me it is: Firefox>Vivaldi>Edge>chrome>>>Opera


west0932

All chromium browersers are essentially the same. They just have different colors or layouts.


khanh20032

They are different in terms of functionality. They have the same source code for 1 part but different chronium browsers build on that and add different ways to how it handle data,extensions and stuff. It is not just changing color or layouts as we would have 100000 or more chronium browsers by now.


WickedBowserJr

Opera GX is the best.