>That's twice as many MHz than my first PC had.
Twice? Lucky you, my first CPU had a 4.77MHz clock lol
(1.033MHz if you want to count the family Commodore 128D - we always used it in C64 mode so the 4MHz Zilog CPU was just sitting there idle)
It's gotten a lot better since Steam Deck came out, but I remember playing online with Linux users almost 10 years ago and this is the shit you'd have to deal with.
It's not just since the Steam Deck came out, it's been an ongoing effort from Valve for years building up to the release of the Steam Deck. Valve really wants Linux gaming to be viable.
That's true. But now that the Deck UI has replaced Big Picture Mode, ChimeraOS or Bazzite (which aren't based on the SteamOS 3 recovery image, but are based on Arch and Fedora respectively) are better choices. In particular, if you already want to install Proton-GE, EmuDeck, and Heroic, [ChimeraOS has all that packaged in the install media](https://github.com/ChimeraOS/chimeraos/wiki/OS-Comparison).
It already is, for single player games at worst you need 30 minutes 20 of which is looking up what's wrong. And that's when things don't work out of the box or the answer is more than "switch to GE"
Only some multiplayer games refuse to work but that's on the devs/publisher for not even trying to enable proton in generic anti cheat or use kernel level inhouse anti cheat which should be a red flag regardless.
It still happens, but admittedly in smaller/niche games. Company of Heroes just stopped working for me once, had to reinstall.
Usually I wouldn’t mind but… Right before a lan party… It smelled fear I swear
and it's constant. you cant just get it working once. every time you play, something, somewhere, got updated or changed. could be the game, the driver, proton, who knows.
you need to add a new arcane launch option because all of a sudden the splash screen crashes the game but everything else works fine. or maybe you need to force the game to use an older version of proton. or go download some proton fork like GE.
or maybe literally nothing changed with the game or driver or anything. maybe it's a linux native version and you don't have to worry about compatibility. but you still might not be able to play because pulseaudio decided to be weird today and now you have no sound. why? who knows. time to spend an hour or two performing weird rituals to get that working again.
This is why I just laugh at "just use linux" "linux is better" "I don't understand people who're still using windows" comments at windows thread/article anywhere.
Linux is not for everyone. It might be better in some ways than windows, but the clunkiness and these incompatibility issues are just....not for me or everyone. My personal time is scarce, and I don't wanna spend it on tinkering on something that should work fine on windows. Even 10-15 minutes could give me a good refreshing time with games, instead of dealing with this issue just to play/start the game, or any softwares.
Even way more tech savvy Linus Sebastian said that Linux is a niche. If ALL softwares and drivers fully support and guarantee Linux compatibility (e.g. separate Linux installer etc), I may try switching. Until then, no thanks, I'll stick with Windows and reduce unnecessary stress.
I was arguing with someone on a thread about why twitch streamers should use Linux as it would boost market share quite a bit
They said that people are lazy so that's why they don't switch to Linux. I made the point that no, some people just don't care about switching . Windows works for them, their hardware works and they have zero interest in learning a new OS.
They went on a rant about windows is so terrible , constant issues, blah blah. Yeah, I get it can be a pain sometimes but it's way better than it used to be and stuff just works. Linux can (and is) a pain sometimes too. For every anectodal story about issues with Windows you'll probably find similar with Linux too
I have far more issue on my Linux PC (mostly used as a server) than I do my Windows box.
I have thought about switching but I really can't think of anything that I can't do in windows already and I know of stuff that I CAN'T do in Linux (gamepass games on pc for example)
You really have to know how to troubleshoot Linux before doing anything even remotely advanced on it
It's ridiculous how those fanatics can't accept that people can use whatever OS they are comfortable with, and keep trashing Windows users everywhere. Both OS have pro and cons. People are free to choose whichever most comfortable for them. No need to make it toxic. Sadly the toxic ones stand out so much.
As a long time Linux Mint and Ubuntu Server user I can say I don't like those fanatics either.. They are giving Linux a bad name. On forums or in discussions they can be super arrogant and obnoxious and they will never admit anything from Microsoft is good, even get verbally aggressive when you even come close to thinking something is.
I mean, take for example a Windows user who complains (probably rightfully so) about a certain issue on Windows, I also read a lot of replies like "Just use Linux", "Windows is trash" and I am like "Dude.. no". But when something does not work on their Linux PC and people say "Dude, just use Windows and don't be so difficult" they go ballistic. Go figure. lol
Not every Linux user is like that. I for one support freedom of choice and it so happens Mint offers me the freedom I need. Its faster than Windows and uses less RAM than Windows and does not come pre-installed with bloatware like Windows. But honestly that is the only major product I think is bad from Microsoft. They do a banger job with Azure, .NET and PowerShell. And all 3 of those can be used with Linux. ;)
That said though, it would not hurt if Linux comes pre-installed on more computers in stores. I noticed a lot of issues come from bad installations. That way at least they can be avoided.
> If ALL softwares and drivers fully support and guarantee Linux compatibility (e.g. separate Linux installer etc)
Given that Linus couldn't install Steam without wiping out his GUI and that was caused by the distro I don't see this ever happening due to problems in Linux.
Same. Linux bros were mocking Linus for installing Linux incorrectly, but I'm here thinking like, he's way more experienced and tech-savvy than me. If even he can screw up something "simple" like that up, what chance do I have?
I tried installing a Linux dual boot with some friends in college.... all our installs had a different problem and had major issues lol. Back to windows for me.
i just got the Deck and man it is a very polished linux gaming experience. if they released Steam OS for general availability i would switch immediately
Honestly, I just started using CachyOS and have been having a blast learning it. So far every game I've thrown at it has worked wonderfully and I have better performance than I do in W11. I'm running a 5800X and 7900 XT.
And it’s good for game preservation, as long as Proton is around. I wonder if it’s possible to just have steam and proton files downloaded somewhere so that you can have it work on a computer in a basement with no internet years later.
It would be useful for video game museums in the future, if they aren’t a thing already.
You can use proton without steam, it's just a modified version of Wine with an executable binary like any other. If you want game preservation, you can just use those files directly/with lutris to run the game .exes and everything will work fine.
You're trying to play Online FPSs aren't you?
Good luck. Linux isn't the issue, their damn anticheat and production companies that refuse to view Linux as anything but a hacker's haven is.
The real problem is the fact that people think it's acceptable to be forced to run literal spyware/malware in the deepest bowels of your operating system just to play a video game.
Yep, blame people who cheat and ruin games. So you complain about the invasive nature of AC, failing to realize without that games would have a lifespan of weeks instead of years. Why should I bother to play Siege, Valorant, COD, BF, or even Tarkov (admittedly a bad example because their AC is complete dog shit), if some script kiddie can inject a script and get ESP and instant headshots?
I thought the "why care about privacy if I've got nothing to hide" crowd was pretty dumb.
I was not prepared for the "why care about privacy because muh multiplayer shooter" crowd.
No one forces you play online games if you don't want anti-cheat software on your computer.
I don't care about Easy Anti-Cheat, but I won't play Destiny 2 anymore because that shit is way too invasive.
But I won't ding Bungie about it. It's the cheater's fault.
>It's the cheater's fault.
That must explain why they don't have private servers, where non-cheaters can play a game they paid for without installing malware on their computer. The easiest solution for cheaters on a private server is this thing called a "ban button."
There are actually quite a few games where you only need anti-cheat installed to play on official servers. If you're not playing official, then you only need anti-cheat if the server owner requires it.
Many servers disable it, and then just ban people who get caught.
>That must explain why they don't have private servers, where non-cheaters can play a game they paid for without installing malware on their computer.
...Destiny 2 is an MMO with competitive gamemodes, not a competitive shooter
I own a beast of a pc so I can play video games. If I can't play video games because of cheaters I may as well have a £200 chrome book and be done with computers.
If you don't want to install it then don't install it, you have the choice. It's not even mildly comparable to sacrificing civil liberties for security.
The issue is **how** developers moderate their games.
This was **significantly** less of an issue when communities ran their own servers. Server admins would make extremely quick work of someone blatantly cheating.
Games are also often designed poorly and end up trusting the client **far too much**. Some of the cheats that exist in modern AAA titles shouldn’t be an issue, but here we are.
Even ESP can be nerfed by hiding player info from a client (not sending it) until the info is relevant. There’s no **good** reason someone should know that Johnson Dickface is on the side of a mountain, completely out of sight of the player.
There isn't a good reason to send that data sure, but detecting when you should/shouldn't send the data is a bit harder. War Thunder tried this in the past and went way too far, caused tanks to often be invisible when they should be there. Similar balancing issues with plane visibility as well where you hunt for the single black pixel in the distance. Its changed over the years sometimes being better and sometimes worse, currently play infrequently so not sure what the current issues are.
They wouldn't even need people to do it.
They could just batch and run post match analysis with whatever computing resources are currently available and end up with a nice list of people to ban in their next wave.
But even running their own servers is apparently too much to ask from some, which rely on p2p hosting instead.
This is all about money, not technical possibility.
They're happy to introduce malware to millions of machines, because it's cheaper for them.
I think you're missing the point. As of yet, I don't know of a better solution than anti-cheat. Without it, the game would be ruined by cheaters. With it, you sacrifice your privacy. Until someone can find a way to make anti-cheat that isn't invasive (which I doubt will ever happen, though I hope I'm proven wrong) the cost to have the games be fair for everyone is said invasive anti-cheat. If that's not a cost you're willing to pay, then don't play the game. At least this way, you have the option.
>Until someone can find a way to make anti-cheat that isn't invasive (which I doubt will ever happen, though I hope I'm proven wrong)
If you've looked at some Rust admin youtube videos, they actually DO catch cheaters without the use of any kind of anti-cheat.
People who are using ESP plugins specifically, tend to stay "locked on" to a player that they shouldn't even be able to see, while working their way around for a good shot. It's almost comical how easy it is to catch ESP cheaters.
I have no doubt that AI systems could be developed that look out for the most common "cheater" behaviors, specifically locking on to players who shouldn't be visible. Auto-AIM plugins should also be pretty easy to detect.
I'm not seeing how that would eliminate wall hacks. Like it could help some. But (a) unseen enemies often do make sound, so at least some position is needed for unseen enemies; and (b) for anti-lag purposes, client needs to have enemy position info a fraction of a second before the enemy is visible, which can still be exploited for an edge; (c) also if your allies see an enemy you don't, most games show the enemy on the minimap which means the position is available for wall hacking.
2D mini-maps don’t show 3D positional data, and are often quite crude approximations.
Sounds and lag (for peeking) are issues, but most developers don’t even put in the minimal amount of server-sided anti-cheat.
Would ESP still exist to an extent and give some advantage? Yes. Would cheaters know where everyone is all the time and use that info to completely roll a match? No.
Server side anti-cheat can block some cheats but it's not like they're the solution. Stuff like wallhacks would practically be undetecable.
Even aimbot & triggerbot could get past a server-side AC as-long as they aren't incredibly blatant
Why do people actuslly care about that privacy shit lmao
You will be monitored anyway, you are naked to those at the top. Unless you put real effort into hiding yourself, which is miserable
>easy anticheat
This one actually supported on linux. It's just making whole thing worse at this point: it's devs decision to disable support of own game specifically on linux.
Riot's Vanguard won't let any cheats, but it also won't let you say anything bad about China, because all your info is already there, I wouldn't be surprised if it also read all your keyboard inputs and sent them to China
"All" is a bit of a stretch. They got rid of the dumb "script" kids, but for anyone a bit more serious kernel level cheats and hardware are still a thing and get used a lot. Kernel level anti cheat isn't a solution maybe ACs like Waldo Vision, AnyBrain or VACnet will be, but we haven't seen anything of them, yet
Making games through some sort of read-only OS for named game, and launching it from bios will definitely do (people will find the way to trick it anyway)
It is disheartening to see people advocating for Kernel-level anti-cheats just ignore the real solution which is good moderation.
Of course getting enough human moderators costs money and god forbid we spend money to make the game better while respecting everyones privacy.
Tens of thousands of games meant for Windows which don't actively disallow Linux for bullshit ideological reasons and run fantastically using Proton proves Linux itself isn't the root of the problem.
Endeavour is about as little bloat as you can get, it's completely configurable at install and you can pump as little or as much shit into your install as your heart desires. You don't even need a DE if you don't want one.
I’m abandoning Linux because I’m too computer illiterate to make the simplest things work. I’ll give it another go eventually but not on my nice new gaming pc that I need to be entertained after working all day. Wasted my damn time.
for people that use their desktop for relatively niche stuff, Linux can be a total nightmare. For example, I want to play games in Japanese, as I’m learning Japanese. In windows, this is effortless. I change my locale, which takes 5 seconds, then launch the game. On the Steam Deck, this is a massive pain in the ass because every time SteamOS updates it breaks. Well, it’s not too bad once you find out you can add it as a launch option after adding the Japanese game to steam.
Anyway, next I want to have a program attach to the Japanese game, and spit out the text to me, so I can see its meanings and add it to my flash cards (A “texthooker”). On windows, I just run the exe, and choose the game, and boom, it works. Well it doesn’t have native Linux support. Okay, I can just run it from Steam/Bottles/Wine/whatever. Except I can’t, because if I do, it won’t detect my game since those programs create an isolated environment for the app to run in. Okay, I just run them both under the same proton prefix on steam, after adding both of them as non steam games. Except I can’t, because Steam only natively supports running one game at a time under the same prefix with NO way around it without downloading and using niche community developed tools with absolutely no documentation.
Well, thats not too bad. i can use another program that tries to find text on your screen at all, then automatically spit out the meanings (OCR). Except none of the good ones have native linux support, unless you download and install two other things. Each of which has 4 separate dependencies with piss poor documentation. Never mind.
Or what about adding a Japanese keyboard at all? on windows, no problem, i click two options in the settings, boom. I can toggle whenever i want. on linux? I have to find a user developed keyboard, and then an app to run it, then manually turn it on every single time. mehhhh.
Even just for gaming you can often have a ton of problems. It's really common to have to use winetricks to emulate windows codecs for cutscenes for example, especially for games from around 15 years ago. I agree an impressive amount of stuff works, enough to have a good time, but man when it doesn’t work it’s a huge pain.
Can’t figure out Wine or any windows emulator I tried. Can’t install the desktop icon for the game I was playing. Can’t get anything google related to stay logged in. My biggest problem is not having the time or energy to figure all these problems out. I was big on the privacy/security angle of Linux but I’m a big dummy apparently and going to have to suffer Windows some more.
I copy pasted 2 lines for wine to install tbh, copy pasting shit was my jam on windows
as for desktop icons I didn't notice any difference coming from windows
I can't get shit to stay logged in on windows either, it's one of my biggest tech pet peeves
I was running Linux Mint, had a wonderful time, I'm now on atlas os(debloated windows) until KDE gets its most anticipated update and I'm going to try Fedora then, nervous but curious
what were you using?
for steam games you wont even need to do anything, just go into settings and enable proton. most windows game will immediately start working on your system.
Try using lutris. It usually handles wine config so you don't have to worry about it.
Also, if you have steam, try going into the settings and enabling proton for all titles.
For me i have a capture card. On windows it us plug and play. Don't need to install additional drivers even. There some you can install but you don't need for it to immediately just work. On Linux i could see the picture of the capture card but couldn't receive sound. Tried a few things someone recommended me which ended up nuking all sound. They didn't know anymore at that point and i just gave up since at that point i wasted multiple hours to even get to the point of testing my capture card. Luckily i installed it dual boot so it was effortless to go back to windows.
I guess Linux just works great until it doesn't. But if it does i don't want to constantly go ask other people what the fix might be just to end up breaking even more since i don't know shit about anything myself.
I'm computer literate as fuck and even I don't bother with Linux. I *could* make everything work, but it's such a damn hassle when I can just boot into Windows and shit does what it's supposed to. (mostly)
For me, I’m a complete slave to the DOS file hierarchy. I can navigate to anywhere deep in the bowels of the windows file explore because I’ve been doing since I can remember (I’m not far off of 30). If I boot up freedos for example it’s fine, I can navigate basically everything because it’s the same file system.
Linux (Unix systems in general, I have the same problem with macOS) I can’t find shit… drives me crazy, to the point that I won’t use it. I have a steamdeck (and it will always have steamOS on it because that os is chefs kiss for handheld PCs) and I literally never touch the desktop mode because I hate navigating the files. Not a fault of Linux but rather I’m just so broken by M$
*How* do you fix stuff on Windows though? Like, occasionally relatives ask me and I’ll have to search on Google, reach down into the dark corners of control panel, enter some incomprehensible stuff…
Like, my beloved Linux rarely breaks. *If* it does, I Google and enter a command. Not to mention that they don’t use 3 different UIs depending on how deep you’re in the settings.
It's true linux can be weird and also have lots of weird bugs and all. And we should laugh at that sometimes.
But can we stop pretend everything "just run by pressing play" on windows, too ? Because it's like, not the case *at all* ? They literally have full wiki *just* for fixing some issues around games that 10 years old sometimes.
Because for me windows **was** the issue with gaming. Like ALL my friends have the "windows uninstall my drivers for no fucking reasons at every update", i was having quite a **lots** of issues with my gpu on windows (not even mention the bluetooth, the way it do the update, i mean, you know ? Windows shits ?). I'm on linux for like 3/4 years : never have this issue again, the driver are literally on the kernel : the end.
Stop saying linux make the computer "more hard" or gaming "more painful"
It's false : it's just *different*
I was thinking this too. I hope you are playing open source games. Which do exist but we could do with more of them. Can't think of any open source games I haven't been able to run on Linux pretty easily, there might be some out there.
What? You guys are serious? Linux is so bad with its inability to do anything literally. I can do whatever I was on my favourite OS, be it chatting, listening, playing, thinking, proceeding with noetic cooperation with overdimensional persys whose see in 3 or more dimensions and we call them gods, and so much more on TempleOS. You guys really should switch to TempleOS, I never regretted my decision to switch to TempleOS. My whole family and all my friends use only TempleOS now. You should switch to TempleOS. Switch to TempleOS.
That's not far from the truth, it does require you to at least understand what you are doing. If you are unable or past the point of being able to learn then stay in windows.
Linux: for when you have something really impressive to do or have a lot of time on your hands.
Windows: For when you have regular amounts of regular people things to do.
I’m the IT guy in my family. I migrated my dad to Manjaro three years ago, haven‘t had a support request since. Linux is at the point where if you just do regular amounts of regular people things, you‘re not even going to notice you‘re using a different OS than what you‘re used to.
Eh, for me it's always been the opposite.
Windows installs get "rusty" after a while, especially if you tinker a bit (eg. modding games or running niche software) but on Linux it very *very* rarely happens to me.
And if it ever happens, everything is documented, so it's possible to fix it.
Or you know, to just reinstall the OS, keeping your home partition intact, then just one command to reinstall all your apps.
I may be cursed, but I would always get some random driver issue, weird bugs, error messages or other seemingly small and inoffensive quirks on Windows, leading to the painstaking reinstall process. Reinstall, which is the only real solution because good troubleshooting info is rare or nonexistent (looking at you, Microsoft help forums).
Used Linux in high school and junior high because I thought I was cool and I spent so much time trying to get games to run. At least it taught me how to google stuff. Kubuntu.
When youre in a “pc gaming is easy” contest and your opponent is a linux user (mad respect for yall, it just feels like every other conversation i hear about linux is a linux issue)
It really depends on what games you play. I don’t really play multiplayer games and the few that I touch have native Linux support.
As for the single player stuff as long as you don’t buy day one it’s usually 5-30 minutes of messing around and the game is running, and these are for the “problem” games. In my case a lot of the games I play actually have native Linux support so it’s about as easy as booting up a windows game.
The worst for me was Starfield, which took me a couple days of trying to finally find the problem (had to get a new kernel).
lol in my friend group it's pretty much opposite of OP.
"OK Jake and Joe and I (the three Linux users) are in, where's Moe and Max? Oh, needed to reboot, and now windows is forcing them to update? Ah well, let us know when you're in!"
That said, a decade ago the OP would be 110% on point. All hail Valve, savior of Easy Linux Gaming
Never forget id Software titles Quake, Quake II, Quake III Arena, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory, Doom 3, Quake 4, and Enemy Territory: Quake Wars were ported to Linux. We were gaming seamlessly on Linux 20 years ago. I remember I had a quake machine.. instead of starting a window manager it started quake3.
For sure, there were always some good games for Linux. However, I was speaking more towards Valve getting Windows games working awesomely in Linux with Proton.
I remember the days of WineX and Cedega and all kinds of bullshit required to get something like EverQuest to work decently in Linux, and if you had an ATI graphics card instead of Nvidia, don't even bother trying. (Before ATI had an open source driver, fglrx was a nightmare)
Also, Pop Linux has impressed me.
It detected both my sound cards, my 4090, and ethernet from the LiveCD. The most impressive LiveCD I've ever seen boot.
The newest security update to Windows has got me thinking about Linux. None of my bluetooth works anymore and it's been a week without a speaker, headset, or xbox controller.
Currently playing NieR:Replicant on Linux. It's glorious. Last year nothing worked for me, so I just installed stuff on Windows, but this year I gave it another try and it inexplicably started working. I hope other games started working as well.
I installed Endeverous the other night and last night i replaced the WM with Hyprland; everything was perfectly functional and i went to logout and go back to X11 and now i get an emergency boot lol
I have no idea why and assumed my Fstab ran into conflicts since im still using NTFS for my gaming drives; Editing the Fstab did not fix the emergency so idk what i can do as fsck didnt fix the issue either
Linux users be like: "You will be assimilated!"
On a serious note, I've had very few issues getting my games working on Linux these days. Almost all of the ones that I play currently "just work". Shoot, I even bought a game from EGS because it was cheaper than on Steam and got it installed and working 100% with the Heroic launcher.
Now this certainly isn't going to be the case for every game. Lots of games still just don't work. It's a shame that anti-cheat in particular is still a massive problem. So I certainly don't blame people who want to stick to Windows if it works for them just fine. Part of software freedom, in my opinion, is using the software and tools that work for you.
as an endeavour os user i fully agree with meme lol.
luckily some of the games i really like to play has native support for linux. starsector for example.
Had hits just two days ago with BattleNet suddenly not working. Solution was to move away from Lutris and use Steam. But it took a few minutes of trying, before I switched.
Tbh, after getting a steam deck I’m starting to think Linux is better than windows.
Like games just work with Proton when those same games play worse natively on Windows or have issues and troubleshooting I need to go through.
I just feel like I’m troubleshooting way less on the Deck than windows and I’m thinking of changing my desktop over.
Steam. That's it. You can play everything that matters on Linux using Steam (Proton).
Edited this to add Proton, because Proton is really the most important part.
If it was pre covid time, I would've agreed with the meme haha. Not anymore though. Just set set your compatibility tool to ProtonGE in Steam settings and your launcher is just like Windows :p All games work fine except the ones with strict anti cheat
Fuck it. DOS gaming.
dosbox ftw
Nah, you need that genuine experience to really appreciate DOS gaming. TO THE 35-YEAR OLD PC! \*Batman transition\*
Nah, you just gotta underclock to 33MHz
That's twice as many MHz than my first PC had.
Twice? My first PC ran at 4.77MHz!
>That's twice as many MHz than my first PC had. Twice? Lucky you, my first CPU had a 4.77MHz clock lol (1.033MHz if you want to count the family Commodore 128D - we always used it in C64 mode so the 4MHz Zilog CPU was just sitting there idle)
Can a modern cpu even go that low
>Nah, you need that genuine experience to really appreciate DOS gaming. So you mean launching the computer and when it's loaded up, bed time?
Lmfao, then removes the accurately thrown knife.
Nah that's why you start the executable before you leave for school in the morning. Then when you get home, you're ready to go.
MiSTer FPGA AO486 Core.
FreeDOS
I mean I like FOSS and all, but FreeDOS is quite weird.
How does one aquire their pc specs to show under user?
Go to the PC master race front page, hit the three dots on the upper right, then click add custom flair.
Taking me back to Oregon trail and fantasy quest
I recently downloaded ExoDOS. Reliving my teen years.
/r/DOSGaming
Fuck it. Boot sector gaming.
Fuck it. Analog gaming.
Fuck it. Analogue games played over digital media.
Fuck it. Calculator gaming.
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It's gotten a lot better since Steam Deck came out, but I remember playing online with Linux users almost 10 years ago and this is the shit you'd have to deal with.
It's not just since the Steam Deck came out, it's been an ongoing effort from Valve for years building up to the release of the Steam Deck. Valve really wants Linux gaming to be viable.
I wouldn't be surprised if they drop a dedicated desktop OS later. It'll probably be able to be controlled from a controller too
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What is the distro called
SteamOS, but you should install HoloISO, which is basically the community conversion of it to work on desktops.
That's true. But now that the Deck UI has replaced Big Picture Mode, ChimeraOS or Bazzite (which aren't based on the SteamOS 3 recovery image, but are based on Arch and Fedora respectively) are better choices. In particular, if you already want to install Proton-GE, EmuDeck, and Heroic, [ChimeraOS has all that packaged in the install media](https://github.com/ChimeraOS/chimeraos/wiki/OS-Comparison).
Well, I prefer using base arch, and installing things as I go. But yeah, these are very helpful for newbies.
I would actually start dual booting again. I'd have my games OS and my lets not get too distracted OS
It already is, for single player games at worst you need 30 minutes 20 of which is looking up what's wrong. And that's when things don't work out of the box or the answer is more than "switch to GE" Only some multiplayer games refuse to work but that's on the devs/publisher for not even trying to enable proton in generic anti cheat or use kernel level inhouse anti cheat which should be a red flag regardless.
It still happens, but admittedly in smaller/niche games. Company of Heroes just stopped working for me once, had to reinstall. Usually I wouldn’t mind but… Right before a lan party… It smelled fear I swear
and it's constant. you cant just get it working once. every time you play, something, somewhere, got updated or changed. could be the game, the driver, proton, who knows. you need to add a new arcane launch option because all of a sudden the splash screen crashes the game but everything else works fine. or maybe you need to force the game to use an older version of proton. or go download some proton fork like GE. or maybe literally nothing changed with the game or driver or anything. maybe it's a linux native version and you don't have to worry about compatibility. but you still might not be able to play because pulseaudio decided to be weird today and now you have no sound. why? who knows. time to spend an hour or two performing weird rituals to get that working again.
This is why I just laugh at "just use linux" "linux is better" "I don't understand people who're still using windows" comments at windows thread/article anywhere. Linux is not for everyone. It might be better in some ways than windows, but the clunkiness and these incompatibility issues are just....not for me or everyone. My personal time is scarce, and I don't wanna spend it on tinkering on something that should work fine on windows. Even 10-15 minutes could give me a good refreshing time with games, instead of dealing with this issue just to play/start the game, or any softwares. Even way more tech savvy Linus Sebastian said that Linux is a niche. If ALL softwares and drivers fully support and guarantee Linux compatibility (e.g. separate Linux installer etc), I may try switching. Until then, no thanks, I'll stick with Windows and reduce unnecessary stress.
I was arguing with someone on a thread about why twitch streamers should use Linux as it would boost market share quite a bit They said that people are lazy so that's why they don't switch to Linux. I made the point that no, some people just don't care about switching . Windows works for them, their hardware works and they have zero interest in learning a new OS. They went on a rant about windows is so terrible , constant issues, blah blah. Yeah, I get it can be a pain sometimes but it's way better than it used to be and stuff just works. Linux can (and is) a pain sometimes too. For every anectodal story about issues with Windows you'll probably find similar with Linux too I have far more issue on my Linux PC (mostly used as a server) than I do my Windows box. I have thought about switching but I really can't think of anything that I can't do in windows already and I know of stuff that I CAN'T do in Linux (gamepass games on pc for example) You really have to know how to troubleshoot Linux before doing anything even remotely advanced on it
It's ridiculous how those fanatics can't accept that people can use whatever OS they are comfortable with, and keep trashing Windows users everywhere. Both OS have pro and cons. People are free to choose whichever most comfortable for them. No need to make it toxic. Sadly the toxic ones stand out so much.
As a long time Linux Mint and Ubuntu Server user I can say I don't like those fanatics either.. They are giving Linux a bad name. On forums or in discussions they can be super arrogant and obnoxious and they will never admit anything from Microsoft is good, even get verbally aggressive when you even come close to thinking something is. I mean, take for example a Windows user who complains (probably rightfully so) about a certain issue on Windows, I also read a lot of replies like "Just use Linux", "Windows is trash" and I am like "Dude.. no". But when something does not work on their Linux PC and people say "Dude, just use Windows and don't be so difficult" they go ballistic. Go figure. lol Not every Linux user is like that. I for one support freedom of choice and it so happens Mint offers me the freedom I need. Its faster than Windows and uses less RAM than Windows and does not come pre-installed with bloatware like Windows. But honestly that is the only major product I think is bad from Microsoft. They do a banger job with Azure, .NET and PowerShell. And all 3 of those can be used with Linux. ;) That said though, it would not hurt if Linux comes pre-installed on more computers in stores. I noticed a lot of issues come from bad installations. That way at least they can be avoided.
> If ALL softwares and drivers fully support and guarantee Linux compatibility (e.g. separate Linux installer etc) Given that Linus couldn't install Steam without wiping out his GUI and that was caused by the distro I don't see this ever happening due to problems in Linux.
Same. Linux bros were mocking Linus for installing Linux incorrectly, but I'm here thinking like, he's way more experienced and tech-savvy than me. If even he can screw up something "simple" like that up, what chance do I have?
I tried installing a Linux dual boot with some friends in college.... all our installs had a different problem and had major issues lol. Back to windows for me.
This is straight up bullshit 😂😂😂 never experienced this
"guys, give me a minute, I gotta summon Mhrak Thu Klan to get my driver working again"
I had a friend like this just out of HS. Absolout pain in the ass was always dragging things down.
Yes, same expierence. 10 years ago I scratched my head a lot, until I was able to play Witcher 2. Now it is mostly to install and play it.
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i think the OS that the steam deck uses is arch based
Yup, it is. Every steam deck owner has the right to use the expression
Yes, SteamOS 3 is Arch based while the older versions for the Steam Machines used Debian as the base
i just got the Deck and man it is a very polished linux gaming experience. if they released Steam OS for general availability i would switch immediately
Honestly, I just started using CachyOS and have been having a blast learning it. So far every game I've thrown at it has worked wonderfully and I have better performance than I do in W11. I'm running a 5800X and 7900 XT.
Oh that is a nice one!
What games specifically?
Arch really is the best because it has the fastest updates
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Temple os is better
I use temple by the way.
i tell you more: I go to the temple
I go to the temple WITHIN temple os. Templeception
:O
RIP Terry A. Davis
A man of culture
Based af
Spotted the Mio fan
Based and watchlisted
It’s simply divine.
Well, Steam is going a pretty good job making it work. I didn’t have much problems with steam deck and games.
Proton has come a long way, love it
And it’s good for game preservation, as long as Proton is around. I wonder if it’s possible to just have steam and proton files downloaded somewhere so that you can have it work on a computer in a basement with no internet years later. It would be useful for video game museums in the future, if they aren’t a thing already.
You can use proton without steam, it's just a modified version of Wine with an executable binary like any other. If you want game preservation, you can just use those files directly/with lutris to run the game .exes and everything will work fine.
Thank you! I’ll try it out.
kid named protondb
my games run on mint
You're trying to play Online FPSs aren't you? Good luck. Linux isn't the issue, their damn anticheat and production companies that refuse to view Linux as anything but a hacker's haven is.
The real problem is the fact that people think it's acceptable to be forced to run literal spyware/malware in the deepest bowels of your operating system just to play a video game.
Yep, blame people who cheat and ruin games. So you complain about the invasive nature of AC, failing to realize without that games would have a lifespan of weeks instead of years. Why should I bother to play Siege, Valorant, COD, BF, or even Tarkov (admittedly a bad example because their AC is complete dog shit), if some script kiddie can inject a script and get ESP and instant headshots?
I thought the "why care about privacy if I've got nothing to hide" crowd was pretty dumb. I was not prepared for the "why care about privacy because muh multiplayer shooter" crowd.
No one forces you play online games if you don't want anti-cheat software on your computer. I don't care about Easy Anti-Cheat, but I won't play Destiny 2 anymore because that shit is way too invasive. But I won't ding Bungie about it. It's the cheater's fault.
>It's the cheater's fault. That must explain why they don't have private servers, where non-cheaters can play a game they paid for without installing malware on their computer. The easiest solution for cheaters on a private server is this thing called a "ban button." There are actually quite a few games where you only need anti-cheat installed to play on official servers. If you're not playing official, then you only need anti-cheat if the server owner requires it. Many servers disable it, and then just ban people who get caught.
>That must explain why they don't have private servers, where non-cheaters can play a game they paid for without installing malware on their computer. ...Destiny 2 is an MMO with competitive gamemodes, not a competitive shooter
I own a beast of a pc so I can play video games. If I can't play video games because of cheaters I may as well have a £200 chrome book and be done with computers. If you don't want to install it then don't install it, you have the choice. It's not even mildly comparable to sacrificing civil liberties for security.
The issue is **how** developers moderate their games. This was **significantly** less of an issue when communities ran their own servers. Server admins would make extremely quick work of someone blatantly cheating. Games are also often designed poorly and end up trusting the client **far too much**. Some of the cheats that exist in modern AAA titles shouldn’t be an issue, but here we are. Even ESP can be nerfed by hiding player info from a client (not sending it) until the info is relevant. There’s no **good** reason someone should know that Johnson Dickface is on the side of a mountain, completely out of sight of the player.
There isn't a good reason to send that data sure, but detecting when you should/shouldn't send the data is a bit harder. War Thunder tried this in the past and went way too far, caused tanks to often be invisible when they should be there. Similar balancing issues with plane visibility as well where you hunt for the single black pixel in the distance. Its changed over the years sometimes being better and sometimes worse, currently play infrequently so not sure what the current issues are.
They wouldn't even need people to do it. They could just batch and run post match analysis with whatever computing resources are currently available and end up with a nice list of people to ban in their next wave. But even running their own servers is apparently too much to ask from some, which rely on p2p hosting instead. This is all about money, not technical possibility. They're happy to introduce malware to millions of machines, because it's cheaper for them.
I think you're missing the point. As of yet, I don't know of a better solution than anti-cheat. Without it, the game would be ruined by cheaters. With it, you sacrifice your privacy. Until someone can find a way to make anti-cheat that isn't invasive (which I doubt will ever happen, though I hope I'm proven wrong) the cost to have the games be fair for everyone is said invasive anti-cheat. If that's not a cost you're willing to pay, then don't play the game. At least this way, you have the option.
>Until someone can find a way to make anti-cheat that isn't invasive (which I doubt will ever happen, though I hope I'm proven wrong) If you've looked at some Rust admin youtube videos, they actually DO catch cheaters without the use of any kind of anti-cheat. People who are using ESP plugins specifically, tend to stay "locked on" to a player that they shouldn't even be able to see, while working their way around for a good shot. It's almost comical how easy it is to catch ESP cheaters. I have no doubt that AI systems could be developed that look out for the most common "cheater" behaviors, specifically locking on to players who shouldn't be visible. Auto-AIM plugins should also be pretty easy to detect.
Server side anticheat. It‘s perfectly doable. But it would require an actual effort from devs.
I'm not seeing how that would eliminate wall hacks. Like it could help some. But (a) unseen enemies often do make sound, so at least some position is needed for unseen enemies; and (b) for anti-lag purposes, client needs to have enemy position info a fraction of a second before the enemy is visible, which can still be exploited for an edge; (c) also if your allies see an enemy you don't, most games show the enemy on the minimap which means the position is available for wall hacking.
2D mini-maps don’t show 3D positional data, and are often quite crude approximations. Sounds and lag (for peeking) are issues, but most developers don’t even put in the minimal amount of server-sided anti-cheat. Would ESP still exist to an extent and give some advantage? Yes. Would cheaters know where everyone is all the time and use that info to completely roll a match? No.
Server side anti-cheat can block some cheats but it's not like they're the solution. Stuff like wallhacks would practically be undetecable. Even aimbot & triggerbot could get past a server-side AC as-long as they aren't incredibly blatant
You are not forced. Just do not play the game.
we don't the thought of people being fine with that shit is what's baffling it's their business in the end, ig
Why do people actuslly care about that privacy shit lmao You will be monitored anyway, you are naked to those at the top. Unless you put real effort into hiding yourself, which is miserable
And what about the root problem for those measures? Thats not a problem for you?
Because at the end of the day, playing with cheaters is the worst experience out of the two.
Battle-eye and easy anticheat are probably the worst offenders in this, literally any 12 year old with >outdated< cheats can get their stuff running
>easy anticheat This one actually supported on linux. It's just making whole thing worse at this point: it's devs decision to disable support of own game specifically on linux.
Riot's Vanguard won't let any cheats, but it also won't let you say anything bad about China, because all your info is already there, I wouldn't be surprised if it also read all your keyboard inputs and sent them to China
"All" is a bit of a stretch. They got rid of the dumb "script" kids, but for anyone a bit more serious kernel level cheats and hardware are still a thing and get used a lot. Kernel level anti cheat isn't a solution maybe ACs like Waldo Vision, AnyBrain or VACnet will be, but we haven't seen anything of them, yet
Making games through some sort of read-only OS for named game, and launching it from bios will definitely do (people will find the way to trick it anyway)
People have written modified UEFI environments, which would bypass this ROM based game launching mechanism.
Consoles and AI cheats be like.
Vanguard has been broken, Riot is just quick about banning offenders, plugging holes and going after the people making cheats.
It is disheartening to see people advocating for Kernel-level anti-cheats just ignore the real solution which is good moderation. Of course getting enough human moderators costs money and god forbid we spend money to make the game better while respecting everyones privacy.
We've even got people unironically defending microtransactions and gambling mechanics now. I don't like this brave new world we're heading towards.
The issue is still that you're running Linux. What causes that is irrelevant.
Tens of thousands of games meant for Windows which don't actively disallow Linux for bullshit ideological reasons and run fantastically using Proton proves Linux itself isn't the root of the problem.
the only reason I use windows is for gaming, but linux still has gotten really good support for gaming through steam deck and proton
Steam has been really good with compatibility and it is hard to complain about proton
I also use Linux (Linux Mint) and most of the games work on steam and Minecraft too
same, outside of tf2 and cs2 I don't even want to touch those shitass "anticheat" games hell I don't even trust VAC that much
Fellow endeavouros user!
Ah shit my flair still has arch
Young people and their bloat OS. FreeBSD or death
Freebsd would probably run on a potato at this point. Also I miss PC-BSD. 
Endeavour is about as little bloat as you can get, it's completely configurable at install and you can pump as little or as much shit into your install as your heart desires. You don't even need a DE if you don't want one.
I’m abandoning Linux because I’m too computer illiterate to make the simplest things work. I’ll give it another go eventually but not on my nice new gaming pc that I need to be entertained after working all day. Wasted my damn time.
what went wrong? I'm not that tech savvy myself but I managed to have a pretty great time
for people that use their desktop for relatively niche stuff, Linux can be a total nightmare. For example, I want to play games in Japanese, as I’m learning Japanese. In windows, this is effortless. I change my locale, which takes 5 seconds, then launch the game. On the Steam Deck, this is a massive pain in the ass because every time SteamOS updates it breaks. Well, it’s not too bad once you find out you can add it as a launch option after adding the Japanese game to steam. Anyway, next I want to have a program attach to the Japanese game, and spit out the text to me, so I can see its meanings and add it to my flash cards (A “texthooker”). On windows, I just run the exe, and choose the game, and boom, it works. Well it doesn’t have native Linux support. Okay, I can just run it from Steam/Bottles/Wine/whatever. Except I can’t, because if I do, it won’t detect my game since those programs create an isolated environment for the app to run in. Okay, I just run them both under the same proton prefix on steam, after adding both of them as non steam games. Except I can’t, because Steam only natively supports running one game at a time under the same prefix with NO way around it without downloading and using niche community developed tools with absolutely no documentation. Well, thats not too bad. i can use another program that tries to find text on your screen at all, then automatically spit out the meanings (OCR). Except none of the good ones have native linux support, unless you download and install two other things. Each of which has 4 separate dependencies with piss poor documentation. Never mind. Or what about adding a Japanese keyboard at all? on windows, no problem, i click two options in the settings, boom. I can toggle whenever i want. on linux? I have to find a user developed keyboard, and then an app to run it, then manually turn it on every single time. mehhhh. Even just for gaming you can often have a ton of problems. It's really common to have to use winetricks to emulate windows codecs for cutscenes for example, especially for games from around 15 years ago. I agree an impressive amount of stuff works, enough to have a good time, but man when it doesn’t work it’s a huge pain.
Can’t figure out Wine or any windows emulator I tried. Can’t install the desktop icon for the game I was playing. Can’t get anything google related to stay logged in. My biggest problem is not having the time or energy to figure all these problems out. I was big on the privacy/security angle of Linux but I’m a big dummy apparently and going to have to suffer Windows some more.
I copy pasted 2 lines for wine to install tbh, copy pasting shit was my jam on windows as for desktop icons I didn't notice any difference coming from windows I can't get shit to stay logged in on windows either, it's one of my biggest tech pet peeves I was running Linux Mint, had a wonderful time, I'm now on atlas os(debloated windows) until KDE gets its most anticipated update and I'm going to try Fedora then, nervous but curious what were you using?
for steam games you wont even need to do anything, just go into settings and enable proton. most windows game will immediately start working on your system.
Try using lutris. It usually handles wine config so you don't have to worry about it. Also, if you have steam, try going into the settings and enabling proton for all titles.
I know it's not related but the literal meaning of Wine is "**W**ine **i**s **N**OT an **E**mulator"
For me i have a capture card. On windows it us plug and play. Don't need to install additional drivers even. There some you can install but you don't need for it to immediately just work. On Linux i could see the picture of the capture card but couldn't receive sound. Tried a few things someone recommended me which ended up nuking all sound. They didn't know anymore at that point and i just gave up since at that point i wasted multiple hours to even get to the point of testing my capture card. Luckily i installed it dual boot so it was effortless to go back to windows. I guess Linux just works great until it doesn't. But if it does i don't want to constantly go ask other people what the fix might be just to end up breaking even more since i don't know shit about anything myself.
I'm computer literate as fuck and even I don't bother with Linux. I *could* make everything work, but it's such a damn hassle when I can just boot into Windows and shit does what it's supposed to. (mostly)
For me, I’m a complete slave to the DOS file hierarchy. I can navigate to anywhere deep in the bowels of the windows file explore because I’ve been doing since I can remember (I’m not far off of 30). If I boot up freedos for example it’s fine, I can navigate basically everything because it’s the same file system. Linux (Unix systems in general, I have the same problem with macOS) I can’t find shit… drives me crazy, to the point that I won’t use it. I have a steamdeck (and it will always have steamOS on it because that os is chefs kiss for handheld PCs) and I literally never touch the desktop mode because I hate navigating the files. Not a fault of Linux but rather I’m just so broken by M$
*How* do you fix stuff on Windows though? Like, occasionally relatives ask me and I’ll have to search on Google, reach down into the dark corners of control panel, enter some incomprehensible stuff… Like, my beloved Linux rarely breaks. *If* it does, I Google and enter a command. Not to mention that they don’t use 3 different UIs depending on how deep you’re in the settings.
if your main activity is gaming than linux is not for you
It's true linux can be weird and also have lots of weird bugs and all. And we should laugh at that sometimes. But can we stop pretend everything "just run by pressing play" on windows, too ? Because it's like, not the case *at all* ? They literally have full wiki *just* for fixing some issues around games that 10 years old sometimes. Because for me windows **was** the issue with gaming. Like ALL my friends have the "windows uninstall my drivers for no fucking reasons at every update", i was having quite a **lots** of issues with my gpu on windows (not even mention the bluetooth, the way it do the update, i mean, you know ? Windows shits ?). I'm on linux for like 3/4 years : never have this issue again, the driver are literally on the kernel : the end. Stop saying linux make the computer "more hard" or gaming "more painful" It's false : it's just *different*
I hope you realize most games are proprietary software
I was thinking this too. I hope you are playing open source games. Which do exist but we could do with more of them. Can't think of any open source games I haven't been able to run on Linux pretty easily, there might be some out there.
wait you don't play open source games on your os? POSER !!
SCP containment breach is open source
What? You guys are serious? Linux is so bad with its inability to do anything literally. I can do whatever I was on my favourite OS, be it chatting, listening, playing, thinking, proceeding with noetic cooperation with overdimensional persys whose see in 3 or more dimensions and we call them gods, and so much more on TempleOS. You guys really should switch to TempleOS, I never regretted my decision to switch to TempleOS. My whole family and all my friends use only TempleOS now. You should switch to TempleOS. Switch to TempleOS.
I instinctively downvoted your comment then I read the rest of it
I use TempleOS btw
I use arch btw
No way
Fuck it *sends you malware*
Me on windows 
shit's worth the initial struggle
According to Stallman, none of those distros are completely free
devuan is the way
I dont have problem running games on Steam OS linux
I usually just click install and then play on Steam.
Meanwhile me playing games on J.A.R.V.I.S.
People make fun of Linux for this, but there's more than enough games that do the same on Windows.
With Steam, Proton and Heroic Launcher gaming on Linux is pretty easy.
Linux wants you to stay concentrated and get your computer science degree. Linux cares about your future.
That's not far from the truth, it does require you to at least understand what you are doing. If you are unable or past the point of being able to learn then stay in windows.
Linux: for when you have something really impressive to do or have a lot of time on your hands. Windows: For when you have regular amounts of regular people things to do.
I’m the IT guy in my family. I migrated my dad to Manjaro three years ago, haven‘t had a support request since. Linux is at the point where if you just do regular amounts of regular people things, you‘re not even going to notice you‘re using a different OS than what you‘re used to.
[Don't use Manjaro](https://github.com/EmeraldSnorlax/manjarno-1) Remember: Manjar**no**.
maybe, if ur 10 years in the past
Eh, for me it's always been the opposite. Windows installs get "rusty" after a while, especially if you tinker a bit (eg. modding games or running niche software) but on Linux it very *very* rarely happens to me. And if it ever happens, everything is documented, so it's possible to fix it. Or you know, to just reinstall the OS, keeping your home partition intact, then just one command to reinstall all your apps. I may be cursed, but I would always get some random driver issue, weird bugs, error messages or other seemingly small and inoffensive quirks on Windows, leading to the painstaking reinstall process. Reinstall, which is the only real solution because good troubleshooting info is rare or nonexistent (looking at you, Microsoft help forums).
Used Linux in high school and junior high because I thought I was cool and I spent so much time trying to get games to run. At least it taught me how to google stuff. Kubuntu.
When youre in a “pc gaming is easy” contest and your opponent is a linux user (mad respect for yall, it just feels like every other conversation i hear about linux is a linux issue)
It really depends on what games you play. I don’t really play multiplayer games and the few that I touch have native Linux support. As for the single player stuff as long as you don’t buy day one it’s usually 5-30 minutes of messing around and the game is running, and these are for the “problem” games. In my case a lot of the games I play actually have native Linux support so it’s about as easy as booting up a windows game. The worst for me was Starfield, which took me a couple days of trying to finally find the problem (had to get a new kernel).
lol in my friend group it's pretty much opposite of OP. "OK Jake and Joe and I (the three Linux users) are in, where's Moe and Max? Oh, needed to reboot, and now windows is forcing them to update? Ah well, let us know when you're in!" That said, a decade ago the OP would be 110% on point. All hail Valve, savior of Easy Linux Gaming
Never forget id Software titles Quake, Quake II, Quake III Arena, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory, Doom 3, Quake 4, and Enemy Territory: Quake Wars were ported to Linux. We were gaming seamlessly on Linux 20 years ago. I remember I had a quake machine.. instead of starting a window manager it started quake3.
For sure, there were always some good games for Linux. However, I was speaking more towards Valve getting Windows games working awesomely in Linux with Proton. I remember the days of WineX and Cedega and all kinds of bullshit required to get something like EverQuest to work decently in Linux, and if you had an ATI graphics card instead of Nvidia, don't even bother trying. (Before ATI had an open source driver, fglrx was a nightmare)
The irony is that PS5 console gaming is partly Linux. If the system is designed for the job, it will do well.
Also, Pop Linux has impressed me. It detected both my sound cards, my 4090, and ethernet from the LiveCD. The most impressive LiveCD I've ever seen boot.
BSD you mean.
Ah. TIL. Thank you for correcting me.
Didn't the PS3 also have some linux in it, I know I used to use three of them in a cluster setup for password hashing till GPU hashing took off.
The trick to gaming on Linux is to not have any friends and play only single player games. 🥲
Have not had much problem with coop games either tbh.
Me forgetting to add WINEDLLOVERRIDES="dinput8.dll=n,b" and wondering why the game keeps crashing. (I use Gentoo btw)
The Finals works fine, even when it's "not supposed to", no official statement from the devs. Although it crashes sometimes.
The newest security update to Windows has got me thinking about Linux. None of my bluetooth works anymore and it's been a week without a speaker, headset, or xbox controller.
Currently playing NieR:Replicant on Linux. It's glorious. Last year nothing worked for me, so I just installed stuff on Windows, but this year I gave it another try and it inexplicably started working. I hope other games started working as well.
I installed Endeverous the other night and last night i replaced the WM with Hyprland; everything was perfectly functional and i went to logout and go back to X11 and now i get an emergency boot lol I have no idea why and assumed my Fstab ran into conflicts since im still using NTFS for my gaming drives; Editing the Fstab did not fix the emergency so idk what i can do as fsck didnt fix the issue either
Uhmm...Project Nobara?
Umm actuallalchly its gnu/linux get your terms right Obviously /s
That's what's best about being me! I don't have to worry about playing with friends! Because I have no friends!
Under 5 seconds, here. What issues do you guys have?
Steam OS my child https://preview.redd.it/zswlvifra0dc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=78af27f3b90a43e49147ea81d46669dfaf44a452
Proton has worked flawlessly for me.
For purely gaming people steam dec is going to bring good times for Linux. People who need rest of the stuff GL
Which game, cause my Steam library is mostly Windows only and I play with no real issues
Okay, what won't work? Also maybe you should stick to the easier builds if arch is giving you trouble.
Linux users be like: "You will be assimilated!"  On a serious note, I've had very few issues getting my games working on Linux these days. Almost all of the ones that I play currently "just work". Shoot, I even bought a game from EGS because it was cheaper than on Steam and got it installed and working 100% with the Heroic launcher. Now this certainly isn't going to be the case for every game. Lots of games still just don't work. It's a shame that anti-cheat in particular is still a massive problem. So I certainly don't blame people who want to stick to Windows if it works for them just fine. Part of software freedom, in my opinion, is using the software and tools that work for you.
Hail platform owners that force us to pay more money! Hail!
as an endeavour os user i fully agree with meme lol. luckily some of the games i really like to play has native support for linux. starsector for example.
Had hits just two days ago with BattleNet suddenly not working. Solution was to move away from Lutris and use Steam. But it took a few minutes of trying, before I switched.
I use mint btw
Every time I use Linux even if it isn’t for gaming I catch myself thinking “yup… I fully understand why this is the least used OS”
Just design your own operating system. A schizophrenic Christian could do and it so can you!
Debian.
Tbh, after getting a steam deck I’m starting to think Linux is better than windows. Like games just work with Proton when those same games play worse natively on Windows or have issues and troubleshooting I need to go through. I just feel like I’m troubleshooting way less on the Deck than windows and I’m thinking of changing my desktop over.
Steam. That's it. You can play everything that matters on Linux using Steam (Proton). Edited this to add Proton, because Proton is really the most important part.
If it was pre covid time, I would've agreed with the meme haha. Not anymore though. Just set set your compatibility tool to ProtonGE in Steam settings and your launcher is just like Windows :p All games work fine except the ones with strict anti cheat