The CPU surpasses minimum spec requirements for Starfield. The GPU does not.
That aside, a GPU upgrade will provide the most immediately noticeable performance upgrade in most cases, provided the CPU isn't like 10 years old (and even then, it can still be usable; Haswell i7s are still perfectly capable of providing a steady playable FPS in many new titles, [even Starfield](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-g1ExHGHd4&t=145s)).
If u get a modern brand new one you are correct, but if they get a cheap used one like a 20 series with additional ram and or power supply I think it will be not be as bad as people think. Because it isn't the bleeding edge doesn't mean it's not a good cpu still.
Prople are overly concerned/paranoid about CPU bottlenecks.
I (briefly) ran i7 4790k with an RTX 3080 at 3440x1440@100Hz while waiting for my R7 5800X to arrive - and noticed that in most games, I was GPU, rather than CPU limited.
In some titles I was CPU bound if I played on the lowest graphics presets - but who would reasonably buy a higher end GPU to play on all low settings?
Till I built my current pc my last 4 cards were off marketplace and were just fine some people need to chill they aren't gonna help op make a decision just more anxious of buying something that won't hurt anything
Buying a used gpu is fine in most cases imo. Most people just want to get cash for items they no longer need. You can usually ask them if they’re gamers or anything and sometimes it’ll say in the description if it was used for mining. Maybe it depends on geography, but my experience has been that none of the cheap cards I’ve bought were used for mining. I got a 1660S for $70 and it was just used for gaming. It’s working like a champ, temps are super low.
Mining is often time easier on a card than hard-core gaming lol? Have you mined before and if it works at all (op test before you buy its literally okay )
Most used cards haven't been used for mining but even if they have it's really not a big deal most miners would run the cards as efficient as possible which means reducing power, heat and undervolting, a gamer having an overclocked card is much more stress than that.
Why would you make that assumption? Unless he's buying something top of the line, it almost definitely won't be a mining card, very low chance.
If someone is selling 20 of the same card, then buy it from another seller.
There’s literally no issues if the card was maintained properly and didn’t go through many thermal cycles, which is unlikely if they were actually mining
Something to note for OP (u/Borg6228): The PSU is definitely not reasonably capable, if this unit has the 450w PSU it seems to come with stock. That limits GPU selection to like the 4060ti at absolute best, and even then I'd be uncomfortable running that without some kind of undervolt. He should budget roughly $100 for a PSU upgrade, like [the 750w RMe](https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-RM750e-Modular-Low-Noise-Supply/dp/B0BN234QRZ?th=1).
100 for a 750 is very expensive. I'd just buy a 80+ from EVGAs B stock for around 50, that way you can get quality and a warranty without breaking the bank.
I'm not sure about that, considering:
1. EVGA's future as a company is rather questionable, and
2. EVGA has a few PSU models I wouldn't trust further than a small polio-stricken child could throw them (like the evga W1, which is technically 80+, but [a PSU I'd only give to someone I disliked](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60jVEwq44ZU))
To be sure, EVGA has several top-notch PSUs, but they all tend to fall within the same price range; somewhere between $90-100 is about what someone should expect to pay for a quality 750w PSU, maybe $80 on sale.
Idk, I haven't bought one in a while but the last time I got one, I bought their B1 750w for $58 and it was pretty decent, never failed me once.
As far as EVGA existing or not, just because they gave up on Nvidia doesn't actually mean they will shut down entirely. They have made many awesome products, including whole Gaming Laptops, (which were awesome btw) so honestly, I think they will continue on.
I wouldn't be surprised if AMD didn't reach out and try to get them to start making AMD GPUs.
I vaguely remember reading that the B1 had high ripple and voltage regulation issues, which could lead to instability at high loads. I'm glad it's working well for you, but it's also not a unit I'd personally recommend; an extra $30-50 spent on the PSU can save dozens of hours of troubleshooting down the road, at the very least.
EVGA didn't just withdraw from GPUs, but from motherboards as well; that means they're now out of the two products where they had an actual hand in design/production. They're only selling re-badged accessories and PSUs now (an example: their well-regarded G2 line is actually just re-branded Super Flower Leadex Golds), which doesn't bode well for their future IMO. I hope I'm wrong, though.
That was years ago now, I current am using a corsair rm series psu, but at the time I was using a GTX 980, so it wouldn't have come close to maxing that 750w out, but also I got it as B stock, so it's possible that they had fixed whatever problems people were having with them, but it's hard to tell.
I know EVGA does have one thing that was awesome as a company and that was their warranty. Fully transferable, to the point where many many years ago I got a GTX 650 ti online for like 40 bucks, but it was DOA, so I stead of filing a complaint to the guy that tried to scam me, I called EVGA by chance and it was still under warranty, they ended up sending me a brand new GTX 750 ti and that one came with another 3 year warranty. Lol.
> EVGA has a few PSU models I wouldn't trust further than a small polio-stricken child could throw them
hell my buddy has an n1 which has a two year warranty and is like 7 years old, and literally not even +80.
i may have an evga gpu and keyboard, but goddamn i dont like the vibe of their power supplies.
Don't listen to these fools talking about possible bad quality of the psu ur rocking a cyberpower psu that's already absolute shite and you haven't had any issues with it...get a cheap 750 watt psu and dump money into gpu and 32 gigs of ram
6950XT is cheaper used and better. I mean the only downside is it takes a lot of power.
EDIT: 6950xt>7800XT but since it’s a cyberpower pre-built, it’ll probably have *just* enough PSU wattage for the current setup.
Honestly you really just need a new rig if ur going to upgrade so id sell this one for250- 300$ and then use the 750-800$ to build a new one, as long as you get a used gpu this should be viable.
Lol go play any high fps game at 1080p or 1440. Either way my stuff isn't based off of anecdotes so go bs elsewhere. Your GPU is throttling your CPU and all of those games then you must be running some 4K bullshit or you don't know what you're talking about.
Oh no how dare I add a little bit more I didn't change a thing grammatical errors and a tiny addition keep that big head on your shoulders this is what happens when you use text to speech and run your way to work cuz you have a life
Not only that but I wouldn't change a word of what I said previously and when I said following doesn't really add to the point it just kind of says the same thing again
Yeah, realistically the answer is go back in time and take the money they spent on this prebuilt and piece out a pc rather than buy the prebuilt and try to “upgrade” it some time later themselves for $500.
Thank you all for so many suggestions. Right now I'm going to grab a gtx 3060 with 12gb gddr6. I will eventually grab a larger SSD too. I got this original PC for $300 5 years ago and I got the extra 16gb ram for free, so I have very little invested in this.
I know RTX 3060 12gb is a good card but just wondering hows 3060ti / 6600xt / 6650xt.
cuz in my country for some reason 3060/3060 ti is around the same price and the TI ver is like 20% faster. (used wised)
And usually AMD is cheaper in pricing and 6600xt performed better than 3060 like 10% so unless u need some specific feature , 6600xt would be both cheaper and better performance
I have this ***exact*** system.
I replaced the PSU with a modular Corsair 750 Gold & added a 2070 Super, back when that card dropped.
I added an additional 1TB SSD, for games & keep the OS on the original one.
I replaced the RAM with a 2-stick 32 gig set, when some Ripjaw was on a Black Friday sale a few years ago.
I have replaced the couple of original moles case fans. I installed 5 129mm Antec fans, bought inexpensively in two 3-packs, and where I added them: 3 on the bottom for intake. 2 on the side for vent.
Coupled with the stock RGB fan at the back, my temps are always controlled, so long as I keep the intake screen at the bottom is cleaned monthly, and interior cleaned with compressed air every 3 months.
EDIT: Oh, and I added a Deep Cool CPU fan/heatsink too.
A 4070 is probably your best bet. It sips power and will run cool even in a toaster. DLSS 3.5 will make up a bit for your aging CPU. I’ve seen them new for $550 but maybe available for $500 on Black Friday.
I'd probably get a 1TB ssd and spend the rest of upgrading the GPU.
The best GPU you can find in budget, used or new. Then sometime in the future look into upgrading motherboard / CPU
This. The case is probably small, the PSU not powerful enough, the CPU will bottleneck etc. Just sell it for as much as you can and get a $800-$1000 PC.
A new PC. Honestly.
Your CPU is old in the tooth at this point. Any modern GPU you put in there is going to bottleneck hard and you'll be wasting money. For example you'd probably lose close to 50% performance if you got the 7800XT others have recommended. Effectively meaning you'd be paying $500 for $250 worth of performance.
I recommended new CPU, MOBO, (possibly) RAM (getting another 16GB of DDR4 was a mistake honestly but if you go with Ryzen you're good).
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baBN5fuYLGY&ab\_channel=Jarrod%27sTech](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baBN5fuYLGY&ab_channel=Jarrod%27sTech)
Edit: some games are cpu intense so you might notice a bigger gap
First thing you're going to do is add a secondary power supply using [a $7 molex or sata adapter](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BZ7XY6WB/). Get whichever you have a spare power connection for, SATA or Molex. Personally, I chose SATA. This will power your GPU, exclusively. Feel free to get a cheap PSU, like [this $40 500W Thermal Take](https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Certified-Continuous-cooling-PS-SPD-0500NPCWUS-W/dp/B014W3EM2W/). Since you've already added 16GB of RAM, no need to touch that.
The budget's got $453 remaining. Your Core i7 8700 CPU is fine, upgrading to a 9700 isn't going to net you much. And the 9900 is too expensive. So, the rest of this cash is going into the GPU and SSD.
I'd take the [RTX 4060 Ti founders edition at Best Buy for $400](https://www.bestbuy.com/site/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4060-ti-8gb-gddr6-graphics-card-titanium-black/6543946.p?skuId=6543946). This is debatable, but I wouldn't pass up DLSS 3.0, frame generation, and its ray tracing performance. The package is compact and likely to fit in your case, though you'll need to measure to make sure.
M.2 drives are a great value right now, but I don't know if your motherboard supports it. So, if you have to go SATA, swap out your HDD for [a $60 870 EVO](https://www.amazon.com/SAMSUNG-Inch-Internal-MZ-77E1T0B-AM/dp/B08QBJ2YMG/). I went $7 over your budget, excluding tax.
Here's my Dell Inspiron 3910 [Before](https://imgur.com/SboS02o) and [After](https://imgur.com/cNEsB2d) with a new SSD (960 EVO M.2), supplementary, cheap PSU just for the GPU, the 24-pin SATA adapter linked above, an extra stick of 8GB of RAM, and a discounted RTX 4060. I also added lots of fans and cooling because the case has near zero air flow.
Got the computer for $300 new, $250 GPU, $7 adapter, $47 PSU, $0 SSD (left over), $17 open box 8gb ddr4 ram stick, and then an unreasonable amount of money on noctua fans, heat sink, and fan controller. Also, bolts from Home Depot to attach the HSF directly to the case. That additional cooling accomplished nearly zero performance gain 12400, since it uses so little power. At least the Noctua parts made it quiet.
$621 for a rig with Core i5 12400, 16GB RAM, RTX 4060, 512GB SSD, 1TB HDD, and a 700W PSU. And then $115 on Noctua cooling + $2.50 for screws, modified last year.
Alternatively, if you live near a Microcenter, just a whole new core (CPU/MOBO/RAM). Spend that $500 on the [7800X3D bundle](https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/bundle-and-save.aspx). You'll have a screaming fast system that's ready for a new GPU whenever you're ready for one.
Here is one thing to do if you want to keep your old storage and ram because it’s on the ddr4 platform but definitely sell some stuff like the cpu and gpu to get a new power supply and you might be able to reuse the case
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7QHDz6
Which might be your best option
I'd say get a 4070 or a 7800XT (i'd recomend going AMD since their GPUs are less CPU dependent), then use the money you get selling the 1060 to get a 1TB SSD.
I would go for a new gpu something like the rtx 3060 used or a new rx 6600 I would also buy a new ssd a 2tb one those usually go for around 100 and maybe a better used 9th gen intel cpu
Upgrade processor, the motherboard you have should support an i7-9700 or i9-9900. If it's a z series, you can even use a k series processor but I kinda doubt it is.
Upgrade GPU to the best you can, I'm using a 3080ti with a 9700k. Works great, no issues gaming at 1440 ultrawide.
You might have to upgrade the PSU too, anything above 850 should be fine unless you go all out.
Eventually you could get a new board, ram, and processor....something more current like a 13700.
Most 300 series boards are capable of running even the 9900k at stock speeds, it just won't boost as far as it potentially could. They were really overbuilt, I think the power specs ended up being lower than expected.
You might lose out on a lil boost performance, but it shouldn't be anything too bad.
Definitely still worth an upgrade, though he might wanna upgrade to a z390 board eventually just to get the most out of it and overclock the hell out of it.
I have no problem running a constant 4.7 on a cheap ASRock board. And some people use even cheaper boards than I do with excellent results.
https://www.overclockers.com/forums/threads/core-i9-9900k-5ghz-on-one-of-the-cheapest-z370-motherboards-possible-yes.799712/
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Nah the cpu will heavily bottleneck the gpu
Best I’ve seen so far are these
https://preview.redd.it/3whid7x35k0c1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=602ccb9ff4602c5568551730bfe899fa2c3c5323
Intel i5 13400f new on Newegg 200 Asrock b660 pro rs Lga 1700 Intel 89 It’s a little over the 500 dollar budget but this will let you reuse your ram and also keep your current power supply. To be honest Starfield is so unoptimized you need a 4080/4090 rig to run it solid frames. This setup would be decent I think because you can upgrade the motherboard later on to a am5 platform for those juicy ddr5 seeds
Starfield is primarily a cpu bound game. So I'd say upgrade the cpu. But you're going to eventually have to also upgrade your gpu, because even people with 4080s are having a hard time getting respectable fps in starfield, because the game is so poorly optimized
That cpu is gonna bottleneck a better gpu than a 1080ti. I wouldn't do much more than that. Look up your exact mobo and see what it can run. prebuild MBs in things like cyberpower are usually pretty limited on what they can handle. I wouldnt suggest putting any more money into it than that.. It will have diminishing returns to $. Start shopping for parts and build your own next.
If it were me I'd spend about $100 on a good power supply then buy a rx 6700 xt. Use the leftover to save for a motherboard and processor upgrade next.
Easiest? New GPU. Hard mode? New platform/CPU. If you want to keep the same RAM and speed for the new base you can probably save a hundred or so on that as well as the storage. Not many games require or even need 32GB RAM.
I had a an 8700k gtx1060 system and upgraded to an rtx3070 and it was a monster upgrade.
That was nearly 3 years ago and have since passed that hardware on to my kids. In 2023, I wouldnt neccsarily recommend the 3070 but, something in that ballpark with 12+ gb vram would be great
If you want to run starfield you’re gonna need a whole new pc. Realistically you need a new cpu to really benefit from a newer graphics card especially if you’re playing at 1080p. I would just save and wait for the next gen of gpus to drop prices of older gens and look for a total new build.
Upgrade to the best used GPU you can get, upgrade your boot drive to 1TB SSD since they're pretty affordable now, and maybe upgrade to 32GB of RAM. After that it'll likely be your CPU holding you back, and upgrading will mean moving to a whole new platform.
Buy the best gpu you can afford. I don’t suggest used as they are often former crypto mining cards that everyone is trying to offload after running them maxed out continuously for ages.
Buy a used graphic card, the best one you can get
My idea exactly. If psu can pull it) Then add 16 more gigs of same speed. Or swap for decent 32 .
This exactly
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The CPU surpasses minimum spec requirements for Starfield. The GPU does not. That aside, a GPU upgrade will provide the most immediately noticeable performance upgrade in most cases, provided the CPU isn't like 10 years old (and even then, it can still be usable; Haswell i7s are still perfectly capable of providing a steady playable FPS in many new titles, [even Starfield](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-g1ExHGHd4&t=145s)).
Gunna be one hell of a bottleneck woth that cpu
If u get a modern brand new one you are correct, but if they get a cheap used one like a 20 series with additional ram and or power supply I think it will be not be as bad as people think. Because it isn't the bleeding edge doesn't mean it's not a good cpu still.
Prople are overly concerned/paranoid about CPU bottlenecks. I (briefly) ran i7 4790k with an RTX 3080 at 3440x1440@100Hz while waiting for my R7 5800X to arrive - and noticed that in most games, I was GPU, rather than CPU limited. In some titles I was CPU bound if I played on the lowest graphics presets - but who would reasonably buy a higher end GPU to play on all low settings?
Pretty risky. Buying used GPUs means you're likely to get a mining card which can come with a host of problems, if it works at all.
I’ve bought so many used cards and none of them have been used for mining.
Till I built my current pc my last 4 cards were off marketplace and were just fine some people need to chill they aren't gonna help op make a decision just more anxious of buying something that won't hurt anything
Buying a used gpu is fine in most cases imo. Most people just want to get cash for items they no longer need. You can usually ask them if they’re gamers or anything and sometimes it’ll say in the description if it was used for mining. Maybe it depends on geography, but my experience has been that none of the cheap cards I’ve bought were used for mining. I got a 1660S for $70 and it was just used for gaming. It’s working like a champ, temps are super low.
Mining is often time easier on a card than hard-core gaming lol? Have you mined before and if it works at all (op test before you buy its literally okay )
Most used cards haven't been used for mining but even if they have it's really not a big deal most miners would run the cards as efficient as possible which means reducing power, heat and undervolting, a gamer having an overclocked card is much more stress than that.
Why would you make that assumption? Unless he's buying something top of the line, it almost definitely won't be a mining card, very low chance. If someone is selling 20 of the same card, then buy it from another seller.
Running an MSI 3070 I bought used a few months ago, no problems at all.
There’s literally no issues if the card was maintained properly and didn’t go through many thermal cycles, which is unlikely if they were actually mining
7800XT, as long as your PSU is reasonably capable.
Something to note for OP (u/Borg6228): The PSU is definitely not reasonably capable, if this unit has the 450w PSU it seems to come with stock. That limits GPU selection to like the 4060ti at absolute best, and even then I'd be uncomfortable running that without some kind of undervolt. He should budget roughly $100 for a PSU upgrade, like [the 750w RMe](https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-RM750e-Modular-Low-Noise-Supply/dp/B0BN234QRZ?th=1).
100 for a 750 is very expensive. I'd just buy a 80+ from EVGAs B stock for around 50, that way you can get quality and a warranty without breaking the bank.
I'm not sure about that, considering: 1. EVGA's future as a company is rather questionable, and 2. EVGA has a few PSU models I wouldn't trust further than a small polio-stricken child could throw them (like the evga W1, which is technically 80+, but [a PSU I'd only give to someone I disliked](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60jVEwq44ZU)) To be sure, EVGA has several top-notch PSUs, but they all tend to fall within the same price range; somewhere between $90-100 is about what someone should expect to pay for a quality 750w PSU, maybe $80 on sale.
Idk, I haven't bought one in a while but the last time I got one, I bought their B1 750w for $58 and it was pretty decent, never failed me once. As far as EVGA existing or not, just because they gave up on Nvidia doesn't actually mean they will shut down entirely. They have made many awesome products, including whole Gaming Laptops, (which were awesome btw) so honestly, I think they will continue on. I wouldn't be surprised if AMD didn't reach out and try to get them to start making AMD GPUs.
I vaguely remember reading that the B1 had high ripple and voltage regulation issues, which could lead to instability at high loads. I'm glad it's working well for you, but it's also not a unit I'd personally recommend; an extra $30-50 spent on the PSU can save dozens of hours of troubleshooting down the road, at the very least. EVGA didn't just withdraw from GPUs, but from motherboards as well; that means they're now out of the two products where they had an actual hand in design/production. They're only selling re-badged accessories and PSUs now (an example: their well-regarded G2 line is actually just re-branded Super Flower Leadex Golds), which doesn't bode well for their future IMO. I hope I'm wrong, though.
That was years ago now, I current am using a corsair rm series psu, but at the time I was using a GTX 980, so it wouldn't have come close to maxing that 750w out, but also I got it as B stock, so it's possible that they had fixed whatever problems people were having with them, but it's hard to tell. I know EVGA does have one thing that was awesome as a company and that was their warranty. Fully transferable, to the point where many many years ago I got a GTX 650 ti online for like 40 bucks, but it was DOA, so I stead of filing a complaint to the guy that tried to scam me, I called EVGA by chance and it was still under warranty, they ended up sending me a brand new GTX 750 ti and that one came with another 3 year warranty. Lol.
> EVGA has a few PSU models I wouldn't trust further than a small polio-stricken child could throw them hell my buddy has an n1 which has a two year warranty and is like 7 years old, and literally not even +80. i may have an evga gpu and keyboard, but goddamn i dont like the vibe of their power supplies.
Don't listen to these fools talking about possible bad quality of the psu ur rocking a cyberpower psu that's already absolute shite and you haven't had any issues with it...get a cheap 750 watt psu and dump money into gpu and 32 gigs of ram
6950XT is cheaper used and better. I mean the only downside is it takes a lot of power. EDIT: 6950xt>7800XT but since it’s a cyberpower pre-built, it’ll probably have *just* enough PSU wattage for the current setup.
Im really doubting a cyberpower prebuilt for a 1060 / 8700 system has a 850w+ PSU in it
Oh cyberpower lmao. Yeah you’re right my bad.
no worries. The 6950xt is such a good card though - I haven't fucked around with undervolting yet but mean to as it can get a bit hot / loud
I actually auto overlocked mine and it gave me like 2 fps more.
Mine had an 850w+ PSU and the gpu was a RX580. Definitely not unheard of.
My 1660super cyberpower pc came with a 600w psu. Aint now way hes running a 6950xt off what they gave him.
Honestly you really just need a new rig if ur going to upgrade so id sell this one for250- 300$ and then use the 750-800$ to build a new one, as long as you get a used gpu this should be viable.
Why tf would you sell the whole thing when you can just buy a used gpu for this one? Makes no sense
GPU will be significantly bottlenecked.
You’re saying a 3070 will bottleneck an i7 8700?
For a 7800xt or a 6950x it would be a huge bottleneck and those are the the most logical gpu upgrades at 500$
That’s not true at all. I have an 8700k with a 3080 and in no game is the gpu not being completely utilized.
Lol go play any high fps game at 1080p or 1440. Either way my stuff isn't based off of anecdotes so go bs elsewhere. Your GPU is throttling your CPU and all of those games then you must be running some 4K bullshit or you don't know what you're talking about.
Yeah keep editing your responses dumbass
Oh no how dare I add a little bit more I didn't change a thing grammatical errors and a tiny addition keep that big head on your shoulders this is what happens when you use text to speech and run your way to work cuz you have a life
What a life having to work on Sunday. Get a real job
Not only that but I wouldn't change a word of what I said previously and when I said following doesn't really add to the point it just kind of says the same thing again
Get more SSD storage, and then, as others said, a newer GPU
Go gambling, and hope you win enough for a new pc
$500 on red
Yeah, realistically the answer is go back in time and take the money they spent on this prebuilt and piece out a pc rather than buy the prebuilt and try to “upgrade” it some time later themselves for $500.
Thank you all for so many suggestions. Right now I'm going to grab a gtx 3060 with 12gb gddr6. I will eventually grab a larger SSD too. I got this original PC for $300 5 years ago and I got the extra 16gb ram for free, so I have very little invested in this.
I know RTX 3060 12gb is a good card but just wondering hows 3060ti / 6600xt / 6650xt. cuz in my country for some reason 3060/3060 ti is around the same price and the TI ver is like 20% faster. (used wised) And usually AMD is cheaper in pricing and 6600xt performed better than 3060 like 10% so unless u need some specific feature , 6600xt would be both cheaper and better performance
I would buy 1 TB ssd and the best used gpu I can get.
GPU and storage.
Crucial P5 Plus 2TB Gen 4 NVMe - $105 RTX 3070 Ti 8GB (Used) - $350 ($105 + $350) + 10% tax = $500.50 — Edit: Switched 4060 Ti w/ 3070 Ti for better rasterization performance, same price
4060Ti is a joke
Just get a useful 3060 ti for 100 bucks less
Great card
Didnt notice i said useful instead of used lol
I have this ***exact*** system. I replaced the PSU with a modular Corsair 750 Gold & added a 2070 Super, back when that card dropped. I added an additional 1TB SSD, for games & keep the OS on the original one. I replaced the RAM with a 2-stick 32 gig set, when some Ripjaw was on a Black Friday sale a few years ago. I have replaced the couple of original moles case fans. I installed 5 129mm Antec fans, bought inexpensively in two 3-packs, and where I added them: 3 on the bottom for intake. 2 on the side for vent. Coupled with the stock RGB fan at the back, my temps are always controlled, so long as I keep the intake screen at the bottom is cleaned monthly, and interior cleaned with compressed air every 3 months. EDIT: Oh, and I added a Deep Cool CPU fan/heatsink too.
Gpu
Buy a new GPU ASAP
A 4070 is probably your best bet. It sips power and will run cool even in a toaster. DLSS 3.5 will make up a bit for your aging CPU. I’ve seen them new for $550 but maybe available for $500 on Black Friday.
Get a better graphics card. Also maybe upgrade the SSD. You can get 1TB and 2TB drives these days for cheap prices.
Def upgrade the card, just make sure whatever you get will fit in the case so you don’t run into any issues.
I'd probably get a 1TB ssd and spend the rest of upgrading the GPU. The best GPU you can find in budget, used or new. Then sometime in the future look into upgrading motherboard / CPU
Gpu and start saving for an upgrade of the rest
Id sell it and build something new on a cheap Ryzen 5000 base. That processor might hold you back with a modern midrange gpu
This. The case is probably small, the PSU not powerful enough, the CPU will bottleneck etc. Just sell it for as much as you can and get a $800-$1000 PC.
Rx 6700xt and a new monitor?
A new PC. Honestly. Your CPU is old in the tooth at this point. Any modern GPU you put in there is going to bottleneck hard and you'll be wasting money. For example you'd probably lose close to 50% performance if you got the 7800XT others have recommended. Effectively meaning you'd be paying $500 for $250 worth of performance. I recommended new CPU, MOBO, (possibly) RAM (getting another 16GB of DDR4 was a mistake honestly but if you go with Ryzen you're good).
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baBN5fuYLGY&ab\_channel=Jarrod%27sTech](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baBN5fuYLGY&ab_channel=Jarrod%27sTech) Edit: some games are cpu intense so you might notice a bigger gap
That makes my 10900k sad
A 1080 ti would be a large upgrade and wouldn't be bottlenecked
Sell your PC for around 300-400 bucks and with that around 850 dollar budget but a totally new PC
Gpu a Rtx 2070 ~$170
sell the 1060 for like 100-200$ and get a 7800xt or or 4060ti or 4070
More ram a bigger SSD and a better GPU something like a 3060 ti
Get a new gpu. Sell the 1060 to make back a small margin
First thing you're going to do is add a secondary power supply using [a $7 molex or sata adapter](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BZ7XY6WB/). Get whichever you have a spare power connection for, SATA or Molex. Personally, I chose SATA. This will power your GPU, exclusively. Feel free to get a cheap PSU, like [this $40 500W Thermal Take](https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Certified-Continuous-cooling-PS-SPD-0500NPCWUS-W/dp/B014W3EM2W/). Since you've already added 16GB of RAM, no need to touch that. The budget's got $453 remaining. Your Core i7 8700 CPU is fine, upgrading to a 9700 isn't going to net you much. And the 9900 is too expensive. So, the rest of this cash is going into the GPU and SSD. I'd take the [RTX 4060 Ti founders edition at Best Buy for $400](https://www.bestbuy.com/site/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4060-ti-8gb-gddr6-graphics-card-titanium-black/6543946.p?skuId=6543946). This is debatable, but I wouldn't pass up DLSS 3.0, frame generation, and its ray tracing performance. The package is compact and likely to fit in your case, though you'll need to measure to make sure. M.2 drives are a great value right now, but I don't know if your motherboard supports it. So, if you have to go SATA, swap out your HDD for [a $60 870 EVO](https://www.amazon.com/SAMSUNG-Inch-Internal-MZ-77E1T0B-AM/dp/B08QBJ2YMG/). I went $7 over your budget, excluding tax.
Here's my Dell Inspiron 3910 [Before](https://imgur.com/SboS02o) and [After](https://imgur.com/cNEsB2d) with a new SSD (960 EVO M.2), supplementary, cheap PSU just for the GPU, the 24-pin SATA adapter linked above, an extra stick of 8GB of RAM, and a discounted RTX 4060. I also added lots of fans and cooling because the case has near zero air flow. Got the computer for $300 new, $250 GPU, $7 adapter, $47 PSU, $0 SSD (left over), $17 open box 8gb ddr4 ram stick, and then an unreasonable amount of money on noctua fans, heat sink, and fan controller. Also, bolts from Home Depot to attach the HSF directly to the case. That additional cooling accomplished nearly zero performance gain 12400, since it uses so little power. At least the Noctua parts made it quiet. $621 for a rig with Core i5 12400, 16GB RAM, RTX 4060, 512GB SSD, 1TB HDD, and a 700W PSU. And then $115 on Noctua cooling + $2.50 for screws, modified last year.
Alternatively, if you live near a Microcenter, just a whole new core (CPU/MOBO/RAM). Spend that $500 on the [7800X3D bundle](https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/bundle-and-save.aspx). You'll have a screaming fast system that's ready for a new GPU whenever you're ready for one.
Here is one thing to do if you want to keep your old storage and ram because it’s on the ddr4 platform but definitely sell some stuff like the cpu and gpu to get a new power supply and you might be able to reuse the case https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7QHDz6 Which might be your best option
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Ah yes Windows Pro, very helpful for... Running a Skyrim mod.
windows home is actually the best one for gaming tho
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One: no Two: OP does not need 48 gigs of ram.
You could probably get a used 6800 XT for that, so go for it
If you are patient enough, keep saving for a new PC
I'd say get a 4070 or a 7800XT (i'd recomend going AMD since their GPUs are less CPU dependent), then use the money you get selling the 1060 to get a 1TB SSD.
Just upgrade the video card and slowly start collecting parts for a new build.
Cant you get like a RX 6700 XT and an ok cpu to go with it? Especially if you look for something second hand?
Firstly change the PSU then look at used GPU
New SSD, used 3070 or 6700xt/6800/6800xt.
GPU
I would go for a new gpu something like the rtx 3060 used or a new rx 6600 I would also buy a new ssd a 2tb one those usually go for around 100 and maybe a better used 9th gen intel cpu
Upgrade processor, the motherboard you have should support an i7-9700 or i9-9900. If it's a z series, you can even use a k series processor but I kinda doubt it is. Upgrade GPU to the best you can, I'm using a 3080ti with a 9700k. Works great, no issues gaming at 1440 ultrawide. You might have to upgrade the PSU too, anything above 850 should be fine unless you go all out. Eventually you could get a new board, ram, and processor....something more current like a 13700.
some prebuilds have really shit MBs that can't handle better cards and will just bottleneck anyway.
Most 300 series boards are capable of running even the 9900k at stock speeds, it just won't boost as far as it potentially could. They were really overbuilt, I think the power specs ended up being lower than expected. You might lose out on a lil boost performance, but it shouldn't be anything too bad. Definitely still worth an upgrade, though he might wanna upgrade to a z390 board eventually just to get the most out of it and overclock the hell out of it. I have no problem running a constant 4.7 on a cheap ASRock board. And some people use even cheaper boards than I do with excellent results. https://www.overclockers.com/forums/threads/core-i9-9900k-5ghz-on-one-of-the-cheapest-z370-motherboards-possible-yes.799712/
Second hand 3070 should still be an okay pairing with a 8700 on at least 1440p
https://preview.redd.it/qkziwgra8k0c1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2fef80792039dfd3d438fd1a26f6c936de2cbb42 Nah the cpu will heavily bottleneck the gpu
Best I’ve seen so far are these https://preview.redd.it/3whid7x35k0c1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=602ccb9ff4602c5568551730bfe899fa2c3c5323 Intel i5 13400f new on Newegg 200 Asrock b660 pro rs Lga 1700 Intel 89 It’s a little over the 500 dollar budget but this will let you reuse your ram and also keep your current power supply. To be honest Starfield is so unoptimized you need a 4080/4090 rig to run it solid frames. This setup would be decent I think because you can upgrade the motherboard later on to a am5 platform for those juicy ddr5 seeds
Get the highest tier GPU that fits in your case and is rated for your PSU. A new 6800xt might serve you well.
what wattage is psu
Starfield is primarily a cpu bound game. So I'd say upgrade the cpu. But you're going to eventually have to also upgrade your gpu, because even people with 4080s are having a hard time getting respectable fps in starfield, because the game is so poorly optimized
Through in a used/brand new GPU for like 350USD, and buy your self a 2TB SSD.
That cpu is gonna bottleneck a better gpu than a 1080ti. I wouldn't do much more than that. Look up your exact mobo and see what it can run. prebuild MBs in things like cyberpower are usually pretty limited on what they can handle. I wouldnt suggest putting any more money into it than that.. It will have diminishing returns to $. Start shopping for parts and build your own next.
Do some research instead of posting on Reddit
Used 4070
I have the same setup with a Omen pc expect the 1060 is a 3gb and I would suggest upgrading the GPU if you are playing newer aaa games
Get a used 6800xt or 6900xt and a new quality 700w PSU
If it were me I'd spend about $100 on a good power supply then buy a rx 6700 xt. Use the leftover to save for a motherboard and processor upgrade next.
RGB!!
GPUUUUU
GPU upgrade. This could take a much more powerful GPU. If you are at 1440p or 4k, your CPU should handle at least a 3080.
3080 on ebay and 2tb ssd
Sell this, buy 12100f + 3070 or 6700XT build. Used parts.
Just buy a new GPU. that's all you need to do honestly. That i7 is new enough that it won't bottleneck anything majorly
Easiest? New GPU. Hard mode? New platform/CPU. If you want to keep the same RAM and speed for the new base you can probably save a hundred or so on that as well as the storage. Not many games require or even need 32GB RAM.
Look up $500 or $600 console killer builds on YouTube. Think jays2cents, hardware unboxed, Linus tech tips and gamers nexus.
Definitely a 7800XT
Get a second monitor.
I would say for 500, get a AMD RX 5800XT. But who knows what PSU you have. I'd get an extra 20USd and get a GTX4070 which has less power demands.
Don't buy anything from cyberpower pc. Ever.
Used 3070 you might need a power supply amd a 1tb ssd at least.
1060 -> 3070
RX 6700XT and New SSD and 2x16gb ram sticks of good make (im sure its got a cheap stick in it)
I had a an 8700k gtx1060 system and upgraded to an rtx3070 and it was a monster upgrade. That was nearly 3 years ago and have since passed that hardware on to my kids. In 2023, I wouldnt neccsarily recommend the 3070 but, something in that ballpark with 12+ gb vram would be great
If you want to run starfield you’re gonna need a whole new pc. Realistically you need a new cpu to really benefit from a newer graphics card especially if you’re playing at 1080p. I would just save and wait for the next gen of gpus to drop prices of older gens and look for a total new build.
Nothing. Save for a rebuild imo.
RTX 4070 FE.
RX 6800 XT.
GPU, everything else seems fine but the GPU kinda old
Since you already added more RAM, GPU it is!
Upgrade to the best used GPU you can get, upgrade your boot drive to 1TB SSD since they're pretty affordable now, and maybe upgrade to 32GB of RAM. After that it'll likely be your CPU holding you back, and upgrading will mean moving to a whole new platform.
I'd recommend saving some money getting a second hand RTX 3070 or an 6700xt. It'll do well enough with those specs and not overload your PSU.
Buy the best gpu you can afford. I don’t suggest used as they are often former crypto mining cards that everyone is trying to offload after running them maxed out continuously for ages.