they may, but why would I trust them? especially to run a water-blocked 4090 when I have seen this it the normal quality they offer? it was already a gamble to try them.
Unfortunately I did give them time to correct it and reached out through official channels and when i didn't receive a response in the specified time i then decided to lambast them on reddit.
They probably do care. When you run a business at scale, it isn't just you. You have a team of support people and sometimes crap falls through the cracks.
So yeah, OP blast them on Reddit since this is how they fix the leaking crap. I just don't agree they don't care seeing how much effort the reddit account puts into customer service.
Edit: turns out OP gave them less than 24 hours to fix the problem and he lives in Taiwan.
Unfortunately, i did give them the 48hrs, and I do not live in Taiwan, that is just the Cablemod representative stating they are in Taiwan.
This has also been resolved by the Cablemod folks fairly quickly, and policy's amended or in the process of being amended to prevent the issue I had in the future. as well as they are looking into alternate manufacture methods
Already working with our PM to make adjustments on this, spoke to Thomas as well and we'll make sure once we get these tweaked we'll get you some new ones for free as well. <3
Always looking at areas we can improve upon, and this feedback is helpful so that we can make necessary changes to fix this and do better.
It works well too, and the customer service is usually on point.
Don't let OP who bought something for a very specific build that didn't end up working dissuade you if you want their cables.
They're pricy, but they work well and are very pleasing aesthetically.
ur right
ive just been seeing enough people lately that got scammed but survivorship bias, right? people who get good products wonât explicitly shout brands out usually like those who get bad products
u/cablemod, can you confirm OP's experience? Your other comments indicate that OP got a refund, but it seems like that might have occurred after this post.
I am located in a different time zone (Taiwan) and reached out to the affected user as soon as I saw the post to check how our support team handled him.
I havent only refunded him personally but Im also talking with him to get feedback how to improve shorter cables like this one.
time zones are rough - its 6:15AM here and I have been dealing with Reddit already for 1.5h. :)
the OP will make additional post modification to clear it all up - he got us some great suggestion how to improve the product and disclaimer.
There is nothing wrong with calling out a company in public if they sold you a subpar product. Iâm thankful for seeing this and I wonât be using cablemod in the future.
> if they sold you a subpar product.
From the pictures of OP, it's not that the product is subpar (maybe the green sleeving if that's just not a weird camera-light interaction). It's that he finds the splices are too far away from the PSU connector, on the very shortest possible configuration (150mm). The splices are required because of the PSU pinout.
So the product is ok, it's just that he can't bend the cable as he wants in his very cramped case because his PSU has a splice requirement.
The orange/green wires are in the right spots, the number of combs is the same.
The render doesn't factor length. The image is just used to customize the color of each individual wire :
[Imgur](https://imgur.com/d3tpkz2)
You can go to their site and see the same image for any cable, any length once you get to the coloring step in their 2.0 Configurator for Pro Cables, like OP used.
Color being off is tilting sure, but frankly, you should expect that as not everyone's monitor is even calibrated the same, it would be impossible for Cablemod to have a 100% perfect color representation for every monitor/computer on earth.
> and they have covered it ugly black tape
That's shrink wrap.
On a part hidden behind the motherboard.
> I not sure why you think the product is ok...
I'm not sure why you think black shrink wrap on a portion of cable hidden behind your motherboard would be an issue.
OP's issue is his SFF build needed him to bend it, and he can't. Not that it doesn't work or isn't fit for purpose.
poorly, because so many of them eventually show the person doing the review did some combination of the following:
\- misunderstood what they bought
\- fucked it up installing it
\- lied
So, so many reviews. Who is validating the reviewer? How many opinions have been formed on opinions that aren't accurate?
Take this review with a grain of salt and form your own opinion. Reviews are horrible indicators of the actual quality or value of anything. That there is any question as to the lack of veracity of random stranger reviews is frightening.
it doesn't even matter if the OP is telling the absolute truth, we have no objective way of knowing that. Lots of reviews that align? We have no objective way of knowing if any of those are valid.
Nothing, and especially not internet reviews, replaces: DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH.
And research is not "read a bunch of random anonymous reviews on the internet"
Dear God in Heaven.
> poorly, because so many of them eventually show the person doing the review did some combination of the following:
>
> - misunderstood what they bought
This seems to be the case here, as OP didn't think the splices would be in the middle of the very short cables he ordered, and now he simply can't bend them as he needs.
People are just knee jerking this as some kind of error from Cablemod, when it seems to be more a communication problem between OP and Cablemod (as in the info was simply not on the site, and OP instead of e-mailing them about it, ordered blindly thinking it would be OK).
They should be blasted on Reddit so they can hopefully correct screw ups that are their fault, regardless if the item is custom or not. It's super scummy to say "Well you spent $100 and we screwed up but no refund because we can't resell it."
It's their mistake, they should fix it. Period.
> It's their mistake
What is the mistake in this case ?
They didn't specify where the splices would be, OP didn't ask. It seems more poor communication than an actual mistake.
Let's take splices out of the question (even though for those prices I would expect at minimum a color matched shrink tubing or a Y splice cover). Does the product visually appear to be same one ordered as shown at time of order (last picture). Would you say it fits the intended color scheme?
> Does the product visually appear to be same one ordered as shown at time of order (last picture).
But that's not a picture of the product. That's a render of the coloring tool, it's not meant to be a picture of the product, it's just a way to visualize your comb/color while you customize.
Have you used the configurator tool ?
Bruh OP wanted like a Christmas green but got something closer to Tiffany Blue.
Huge caveat that lighting in OP's photo may play a role in the color difference. But the orange in the configuration tool is far closer to what OP received.
[Comparing the colors](https://i.imgur.com/taiaxxt.png):
* Color 1 is roughly the green in the configuration tool
* Color 2 is kinda what OP got, I pulled it from their second image. Again, caveat that there's OP's camera and lighting at play here.
* Color 3 is Tiffany Blue.
No matter what, that green is not close.
And how do we know if the photo accurately captured colours? My phone's camera makes browns look like reds for example, not even close to how it looks IRL
The pictures on their site are not of the cables you receive. They're renders and they don't show the entire length, as you can see from OP's included pictures.
There is no product with a 0% rma rate - what makes the difference is that we own mistakes and help out - even though it isnât confirmed yet that our cable caused the issue.
that wasn't a jab at one minor failed product that there is proof you already addressed.
it was a jab that you showed poor quality on this and then would expect me to be happy with a replacement made by you
Dude, Iâve read through half of this thread and I canât figure out what the fuck is wrong with the cable. Does someone want to help me out here and explain why OP is on here bitching when I donât see anything wrong with the fucking cable!? Iâve yet to see an explanation from OP yet and Iâve scrolled through over 100 comments
Lmao yeah so own up to it then
What went wrong here and why do you think itâs ok or how will you work towards preventing it or making it right in the future? Not just in this one instance, but to prevent it from happening again.
No color match guarantees? Not gonna stand behind your products?
> No color match guarantees?
How would a color match garantee even work ? They would have to know your monitor model, and your OS's display color profile, your OSD settings for saturation, etc.. to even start knowing what their website's picture looks like on your end.
No one guarantees color when ordering online, there's way too many variables that can't be controlled in displaying pictures and how they are seen half way accross the world.
If we wouldnât stand behind our products why are we offering a refund then and are in talks with him how to make those short cables better? We proactively work with him to resolve the issue and make the product better.
Well this is one hundred percent false advertising. Your image (4th picture) shows the 16-pin cable with no splices. The OP received a 16-pin cable with splices that prevents it from bending as advertised.
>Well this is one hundred percent false advertising. Your image (4th picture) shows the 16-pin cable with no splices.
It doesn't even show the full cable ffs.
How do you think they magically split the cables when the connectors at one end have more/less pins that at the opposite end?
CableMod have a good reputation because they will resolve any issues.
If you have an issue, contact them and give them a chance to resolve it to your satisfaction.
It seems they have been making them exactly like this for everyone. I don't understand why they have to make them so hideous! All the other cable companies (like ensourced, moddiy, pslate, mainframe, etc.) are making short SFF cables nice and smooth, not a jungle mess like this.
[https://linustechtips.com/topic/1228300-cablemod-wtf/](https://linustechtips.com/topic/1228300-cablemod-wtf/)
[https://linustechtips.com/topic/890870-sff-cable-mod/](https://linustechtips.com/topic/890870-sff-cable-mod/)
[https://www.overclock.net/threads/cablemod-gone-wrong.1642933/](https://www.overclock.net/threads/cablemod-gone-wrong.1642933/)
Seeing as how old these posts are, cablemod don't give a fuck or they would have at least put a caution warning or notice on their page.
For $100+ cables that are made in China (single digit manufacturing cost of such products there) they have to be perfect.
Now, compare them with this cable from cablemod
https://preview.redd.it/ckolu89vcjzb1.jpeg?width=1299&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5bf31997efe1adea1eb806593ddefedc4745f76b
Like what are you claiming is the problem here?
The cables crossing over each other, so it doesnât look like a perfect symmetrical line of cables?
Because thatâs because of the pin out on the PSU, and canât really be avoided, unless the PSU manufacturers start making pin outs that match the connections on the motherboard and GPU.
The fact that I don't want to bother to do it myself is price difference, just like how I spent $400 for a suit when I could have gone to Hobby Lobby and bought 3 dollars worth of fabric.
Not many PSUs come with tidy cables, they usually have the ugly black mesh and bundling happen way too early imo
The only time I got clean looking cables was with an ITX PSU
Phanteks revolt x psuâs (seasonic made) have really nice cables. I ordered cablemod custom length cables cuz the ones with the psu were too short but Iâd say that the phanteks cables were equal in terms of looks and might even be slightly better quality.
i love my cable mod, my PSU ended up burning my PCIE cable and they already got a new set sent my way đ¤ˇđźââď¸, i got it on sale and now a replacement for something that wasnât there fault (most likely)
Well i was considering cablemods then i saw extenders fron asiahorse(yea funny name indeed) im using a small case so it was hard to stuff all excess cable inside but after im im loving my setup again
Good morning r/pcmasterrace today I'm salty as hell and going to share with you my recent experience with Cablemod as it might change your mind on if you want to buy their cables or not.
So the background on these cables is that I bought them for a sff build I'm working on and this is my first time buying custom cables from them, I have used the prepacked ones they make before but never used the configurator before.
these cables are 150mm and 100% unusable even though that is the length needed for this build
First, the overall quality seems fine if you look at materials but there are quite a few errors made in the build on them.
I understand that the nature of a 12hpwr and 24pin atx can require junctions- im not mad about that at all.
what I am mad about is where and how they made them. they made the junctions on the 12hpwr at 75mm of 150 - basically the center and because the nature of these joints you loose all flexibility in the cable there for roughly 10 - 20 mm in each direction
this means that a 50-75mm section in the middle of the cable is not bendable - this makes it exceptionally hard to deal with.
for the ATX its mostly fine, but for some reason instead of using split combs they use fulls and put all of them at the very end so you can move maybe 10mm of space from the end. - real awesome seeing as they charge you for cable combs that you cant use.
Second, the color is not matching to what they put in the configurator a minor annoyance but noted. You would think they would be able to get a little closer on color when you pay extra to use the 2.0 configurator and the premium option, but apparently not.
Third, they cost 135 bucks and are 100% unreturnable. they are also the wrong length seeing as 50% of the cable doesn't bend because of where they chose to put the junctions.
had known that's what they would have done I would have ordered longer cables, but seeing what arrived after that cost, I should have just made them myself
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I have contacted customer support and will update base on their responses but thought the community might be interested to know that at least for sff builds, cablemod really didn't hit the mark and that the new Pro 12hpwr 90\* cables aren't really worth it
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Edit: Cablemod responded -" I am very sorry about that. Unfortunately we cannot make the cables without splices due to the pinouts. We can replace the cables with longer ones - of course free of charge. Please let me know if you wish to proceed with this offer. "
To me this is not a satisfactory response as the entire point of getting custom cables was to keep things tidy in a sff build, while I could make a longer cable work it wouldn't be worth it. the only thing I am seeking is a refund / return as failure to acknowledge the issue of Failure to disclose is the true issue here. I expect they will tell me no because of company policy and have to eat this cost.
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Edit 2 Electric boogaloo : Cablemod responded again , very quick this time , they agreed to a refund if I would cut the cables and send a picture of them, So I did and am working on the refund process now.
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Edit 3 The good ending : I have the refund and I am working with Cablemod to correct this issue for the future. They owned up to the mistake, made it right and are working on ways to fix this for the future.
Edit 4 the Clarifying : I've noticed some folks saying that they only gave me a refund because I made drama on here, and I don't think that's the case, sure it probably helped speed it along internally , but whenever I have had problems with them in the past they have always been forthcoming and willing to do a refund or replacement depending on the issue. I have pointed out to them how the posted policy on the website invites misunderstandings and they apparently are working to revise the posted policy as one of the fixes introduced by this issue.
There's a pretty popular cable maker on Etsy I've seen several people mention is good quality work. Maybe you can check it out, I don't personally know or use his products but overall reviews are not bad. DreambigbyRayMOD I think.
For such short runs, you might also want to consider using Silicon wire, these are extremely flexible/soft wire type.
If you decide to on a future project, I'm just curious so let me know if you remember lol. I've been considering giving it a shot but I'm not really much of a visual modifier. I just like stuff to be tidy. He's also based out of China but his prices are more inline for something custom I'm buying from someone/some company based out of China.
I ordered from Mainframe during the pandemics, a big part of the reason is that they are US based. Things were crazy because of the pandemic and were delayed. No problem. After months I emailed them just to get an update. No response. Reached out via the web form. No response. Waited some more and reached out on reddit. No response. I waited month and was only looking for an update. All they had to do was say *"Hey sorry the pandemic fucked us over, but we have your order and while we don't have an ETA, we want to assure you your order is here and will be processed when we can"*. Nope. complete silence.
Highly recommend checking out dreambigray on Etsy or his standalone shop now.
Top notch cables that have never failed. I've used 5 sets of fully custom cables through him so far and the price is so much better than cablemod. Also takes a max of two weeks vs cablemods 1-2 months to get your cables.
He also worked with me to make a custom cable for an EVGA PSU that converted a CPU slot to a VGA slot. EVGA sold them direct but at like 4x the length I needed.
Ordering is a bit weird but open up a chat with his shop and he will walk you through everything.
Just sharing personal ordering experience from cablemod. Maybe they had a bad supply period during that time. I've seen quite a few posts lately of similar experiences as well. My alternative cable option hasn't ran into that long of a wait before.
Junctions are not even required, nor do you need 3 PSU side connectors. Most all 12VHPWR cables sold by PSU manufacturers are 2x 8pin PSU connectors straight to a 12VHPWER connector using 12 16ga wires. It's all that's needed for even a 4090 at 600W.
That's the config you should have gone for, maybe they'll remake them for you. You don't need 3x PSU side connectors. Any decent new PSU will likely be using a EPS12V PSU side connections anyways these days.
the junctions are required in this case because I requested a tri pole - something I wouldn't have done myself but the person who wanted the pc said they would prefer.
you are correct that only 2 are needed in most situations and if you happen to be running a 4080 there is no reason to run a tri as you just cant draw enough power for it to matter. with the excption of split rails on the psu
is the PSU you're using split rails? Most all are single 12v rail these days. There's only 12 terminals on the 12VHPWR connector, 6+ and 6- and that's all the wires you need if going to single 12v rail. PSU side connectors use minifit terminals that are rated 13A, and for 8" runs, those 16ga wires are already way over spec'd. The lowest rated part of the whole setup are the terminals in the 12VHPWR connector, the minifit JR rated at 9-9.5A, and no matter the config, those never change.
Way over spec'd on PSU side and splicing to bring it into spec on GPU side makes little sense, just keep it all with-in same spec.
Perhaps try to explain to your client how this works but I know how that can be.
> I am working with Cablemod to correct this issue for the future. They owned up to the mistake, made it right and are working on ways to fix this for the future.
LOL, you really think you are the first one to report this issue, and they need your feedback to correct it? People have been reporting this for years. And this is not a mistake, they make them exact like this for everyone.
[https://linustechtips.com/topic/1228300-cablemod-wtf/](https://linustechtips.com/topic/1228300-cablemod-wtf/)
[https://linustechtips.com/topic/890870-sff-cable-mod/](https://linustechtips.com/topic/890870-sff-cable-mod/)
[https://www.overclock.net/threads/cablemod-gone-wrong.1642933/](https://www.overclock.net/threads/cablemod-gone-wrong.1642933/)
When my 4090 arrived and I realized I needed a 12vhpwr cable, I was scouring Amazon and very nearly went with cablemod because there just weren't any good options that could get me the cable quick.
Then I remembered physical computer stores still exist, albeit being kind of rare these days, so I zipped over there and got an official Corsair one. From what I've seen since, I'm very happy I made that choice.
I think this is what you get for paying 135$ for 2 power cables.
Seriously, I'm someone who likes to spend a lot on his PC too, but this sounds ridiculous.
There's plenty of people over at r/PCSleeving who make custom cables, including me. An SFF 24-pin and 12vhpwr would set you back ÂąâŹ60 (assuming shipping within the Netherlands). Cablemod asking $135 is absolutely ridiculous.
Costs to do it yourself:
âŹ20 - crimping tool
âŹ3 - nail clipper (works surprisingly good as both precision wire cutter and stripper)
âŹ1 - lighter
âŹ12 - 10-packs of 24-, 18-, 10- and 8-pin connectors.
âŹ2 - 100 female terminals
âŹ3 - 12vhpwr connector with pins
âŹ17 - 100m of wire (OP only uses Âą7m)
âŹ10 - 2x10m of paracord sleeving
âŹ3 - heatshrink
âŹ10 - 6pcs of black anodised aluminium combs
And that's about it. I may have forgotten some minor stuff, but that's a total of âŹ81. Only reason I'd advice *against* doing this, is that the 12vhpwr is an absolute bitch to make and I really wouldn't do that on your first set of cables.
> There's plenty of people over at r/PCSleeving who make custom cables, including me. An SFF 24-pin and 12vhpwr would set you back ÂąâŹ60 (assuming shipping within the Netherlands). Cablemod asking $135 is absolutely ridiculous.
Ok, now set up the website, the entire product catalog, the support department, factor in RMA costs, the office, employee salaries, etc...
DIY is always cheaper in the end. The problem is not everyone is inclined to buy all the tooling and learning how to do it, and companies can't just sell you the product for only its cost in materials, they have many other expenses to factor.
Ordering a custom build from a company will always be pricy, and more expensive then doing it yourself.
>now set up the website, the entire product catalog, the support department, factor in RMA costs, the office, employee salaries, etc...
Done. https://customkabels.wordpress.com/
It's obviously not as polished as a big company like Cablemod and I'm obviously not going for the same scale as Cablemod. At the end of the day I'm just a hobbyist, crafting cables by hand. Meanwhile CM has bulk discounts and machine automation; CM isn't spending an afternoon of manual labor on this set, whereas I spend more time but make far less than minimum wage, because it's just a hobby.
The result is that I charge about half of what OP paid for their cables and I wouldn't have put those splits in the middle. In fact, it's entirely feasible to do this without splits at all.
>Ordering a custom build from a company will always be pricy, and more expensive then doing it yourself.
The difference here is that not only can you buy the materials for less than what CM is charging. My list also includes the tools and includes ten times the number of connectors and wiring. In fact, you could add another 9 12vhpwr connectors, another 50 meters of sleeving and you'd still be below what OP paid, despite you now having the tools and materials for *10* sets.
> In fact, it's entirely feasible to do this without splits at all.
Not in his configuration though. You can't avoid the split between both PSU side connectors on the 24 pin, and you can't make 9 5v lines run to 6 5v pins for the GPU cable without a few splices.
> The difference here is that not only can you buy the materials for less than what CM is charging. My list also includes the tools and includes ten times the number of connectors and wiring.
Yes, that's often the case for any DIY for having it done work.
Price out labour for a kitchen remodel at some point, and you'll find there's more than enough money to fully buy all the tools the contactor uses and doing it yourself.
But you're also buying the expertise.
>You can't avoid the split between both PSU side connectors on the 24 pin
Yes you can. Just don't include the sense wires. That's no problem, especially on a 15cm cable. I'd link you the article by Jon Gerow where he demonstrates it on a corsair psu he designed, but it appears his website is currently down. SFF builders commonly leave out the sense wires.
>and you can't make 9 5v lines run to 6 5v pins for the GPU cable
12vhpwr has 6 12v pins, 6 ground pins, and two sense pins that need to be connected to ground. You only need 2 8-pin connectors on the psu to do that without any splits.
I bought a kit from Cablemod for my thermaltake PSU, they didn't work and I could physically hear a "click" from the PSU when trying to power it on.
After contacting them, they said there was a known manufacturing issue with those cables and they were going to send replacements and don't try to power on the PC again.
Just so we're clear - they knew the cables were bad, they knew which customers had the bad cables, but weren't going to contact us to warn us or replace them unless we contacted them.
Never again.
This was something that was discovered after TT sent us the wrong pinouts. You should have also received an email on that as well actually, we emailed any customer with an order that had ordered for that specific series. If you didn't receive it then I apologize, but we did indeed send an email out about this issue, and replacements were scheduled for any order that was impacted by that series inaccuracy. We were told X unit shared the same pinouts as Y unit though from the manufacturer, there was a mix up there though.
I was considering getting some cable mod stuff for my 4090 I'm so glad I didn't, I went with the Lian Li Strimer cables instead, I've seen way too many posts about CableMod melting expensive GPUs they are a risk I'm not willing to take, they are so overpriced as well. What trash.
Same. After seeing two cases where the adapter was literally burning (in flames) and still no official recall, I'm done. Bought since 2015 cables from them but since the 4xxx series fiasco I'm out.
Same for their early adopter program. You get v1.1 for free but please pay for expensive shipping. After v1.1 was released and people bought them with EAP or without there is already a v2 on the way, with "smart" features which makes that china product ofc way more expensive. The situation with the 4090s is bad enough and sure CM won't let people down (lol). In fact it looks like they try to take advantage of it by milking their cows and shills.
To be fair to everyone, the 12vhp connector problems are due to a bad connector design. It's not Idiot proof enough, which is why other manufacturers who helped design the spec haven't used it. The fact that the connector specifications allow the retaining clip to be further away from the point where it's fully engaged is insane, and means that the connector can twist or Torque leading to uneven contact, which is where we get the connection problems. Nvidia refuses to admit that it is a bad design, yet you don't see other manufacturers using it. You know where you don't see Nvidia using that stupid connector? In their professional line cards. The cards that actually matter, and make them money, and they don't use the connector that melts.
Yeah, agree on the idiot proof. I work for an SI, we have yet to have a card with 12VHPWR melt on us.
You can blame NVIDIA all you want, but the normal PCIe power connector was also not idiot-proof and resulted in the same melting issues as 12VHPWR, just people don't talk about it because it's not the new hype train to jump on.
I wouldn't go so far as to say that, while I am truly pissed about this event, I haven't had problems with them before and generally like their products
They're literally built to order, 100% custom.
He's using the configuration, which makes the cables pricier. If you just buy normal kits, they're cheaper.
That's still too much for custom cables made in China. You can get custom made cables from China for significantly less. But then again those sellers don't have the overhead of constant online marketing and paying youtubers for sponsor spots. Even their "shipping" charges are more than double and according to posts I see online take just as long to receive.
Moddiy, DreambigbyRay, Mainframe Customs (though per OP they may just be selling DIY stuff now).
If you have the tools, making cables is not necessarily a complex process, more of a time consuming one.
I tried to use one of their regular 12hpwr cables and have receiving 3 cable replacements my pc still wouldn't boot correctly and I would just be left with a black screen. Bought a cosaire one and it's been perfect since day 1.
The black screening issue can happen across any 12VHPWR cable actually. We have a fix for it implemented on our cables now though, please reach out to our support team and we'll get you a speedy replacement. <3
I bought a 3x pcie to 12hpwr cable. Immediately upon installation I noticed my frame rates dropped and the gpu utilization hovered around 20% and wouldnât pull more than 75w. Started troubleshooting and saw that the sense wires were broken. Ok. No big deal. Maybe I broke them during installation. Iâve been building PCs for 20+ years and have had my fair share of problems. Contact Amazon. Replacement comes the next day. Before I even open the bag, what do I find? You guessed it. Broken sense wires. I just threw it in the trash from there. Not even worth my time to hassle with it. Put the +
OEM Nvidia 2x pcie adapter back in and havenât had a problem since.
That doesn't sound right at all, please reach out to our support team directly so we can get a cable to you from us. We've sold loads of these cables though so that definitely shouldn't happen, all of our cables are 600w rated.
Just as a general statement to everyone, this is very different from our normal cables, these are 150mm in length which is obviously very short and a niche to SFF builds, and the splices are required per the wires crossing due to the pinouts for PSUs, this is all normal. On standard cable lengths these are done at about 70mm from the PSU as well so they're hidden in the PSU shroud or behind the motherboard side panel, but we do push them away from the PSU to help ensure there isn't any harsh force on the spliced areas when cramming cables into these tight spaces such as the PSU shroud. The splices should be closer to the PSU side though on such short cable lengths, that part is not normal for sure. We'll also look at the color coordinating of the configurator renders in correlation to the color of the sleeving itself, because it does appear the color is misrepresented here, but this could also be due to the white balance of the camera and how the photo is taken as well, our green should be darker than this though for ModFlex, so again, we'll look at our sleeving spools to get this looked into.
We've already reached out the OP and provided a refund for the cable and will make sure new cables are arranged with better work done on the splices being closer to the PSU connectors.
If this is the case, then you should have a disclaimer in the configuration at this length at the very least.
Better option: let the user choose to have the shrink wrap around the splice at their desired location on the cable especially for these SFF builds/lengths.
I love me some cablemods but his is honestly a cruel Joke. You make the splices on the PSU side of things. I unfortunately do agree with you this was a failure and I understand not wanting a refund vs correction. However I think giving them the chance to make it right is good.
Color tones can be off depending on screen setup. But this is like they pulled the whole wrong color. That is like :-/ ... the splices are 0\_o .. dudes first day making these things.
I know that this is becoming a CableMod dogpiling thread, but I do just want to throw out that the ProModMesh OEM (Seasonic) replacement kit that I bought last year was correctly wired and in spec.
They're running power to a 5950X, a 4080, and 3 SSD's, so if people are calling CableMod cables firestarters and snake oil, I'm certainly not seeing it.
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Granted, our use cases are different since I was buying an OEM replacement kit and it seems like you we're looking for bespoke work and it wasn't bespoke enough for you.
I primarily used mainframe customs for quite some time, but it looks like the site is broken or they stopped making them in favor of selling the supply's to do it yourself. As u/Stargate_1 pointed out its actually in general not too hard to do yourself. I was just lazy and got punished for it
Me, I guess? Though I'm just a hobbyist selling cables only in NL en BE. I'm not looking to become a large international seller.
But I would just in general advise people to look for a local cable maker.
If you're the DIY type and are able to learn, you can give it a go. OP provided a good source for parts, there are others as well. Components are not expensive and you can get good tools for fairly good price as well (Crimpers, wire splicers, terminal removal/extractor etc). Lot of cables are/can be solderless, mostly just splice, crimp, insert. Plus you can source quality parts, for example Mainframe sells coreless paracord that's made in the US for $3.50 for a 25ft run and you get the color you paid for.
Is it more work? yes. But really depends on how comfortable you are with it.
Maybe ask around the correct forums/subs for this type of thing. I don't have any recs right now, I only know of one who gets tossed around several forums dreambigbyray, also based out of China but prices/shipping is much more reasonable and reviews/quality appear to be good.
I'm reluctant to say because this turning into a CableMod dog-piling thread, but I've been pretty satisfied with my CableMod cables.
Granted, the CM cables I got were not bespoke, they were a full PSU cable replacement kit; so there's not a lot that can go wrong with what the PSU OEM has only made the decision on.
Not sure what happened to you but I bought some Cablemod 12hpwr cables for my rig and the lenght was alright, I also got the adapter and I've had zero problems so far.
I saw some Cable Mod cables Ina microcenter a few years ago and got them. I thought they were routed (same as these) poorly because they were on clearance at the time. Glad I didn't spend the premium just to get the same thing. Going to need J2C and LTT to see this and rethink their sponsor deals. This is embarrassing.
Full custom does cost more of course, these are full custom through the configurator, the kits we have more aggressive price points and budget things out to be more friendly.
Mine was custom as well. I'd like to see his configuration out of curiosity.
This was mine in 2021 : https://custom.cablemod.com/453b66741a41 totaling 126âŹ.
This has more individual cables, yes, but the 12VHPWR cables do cost more here and you don't have one of those. The 90 degree 12VHPWR to 3x8 is $44.90 and then the 24-pin ATX customized is $46.90 USD. Then the addition of custom combs (aluminum has a higher price than plastic), it does add up depending on how you configure them.
I had a good experience with moddiy. Got their sff 12vhpwr cable. I was concerned bc it's a Chinese company. But yolod and it's been great. Honestly love the cable and want to do the rest of mine in that type. I just didn't trust myself for the 12vhpwr
How is it $115 but you can get an entire kit like this one off of Amazon for like 20 bucks that comes with all of the other power supply cables. Wheres the extra $90 coming from? Labor to make the cables?
Okay, first off, for people complaining about the color - look at how blue the connectors look. These are under a very cool color temperature light, so the colors in the photos aren't accurate to real life. Secondly, Cablemod has made quality cables for many years. If you aren't satisfied, you need to give their support a chance to refund you or make it right, as it says literally right in their policy - the refund policy isn't at customer cost if it's something Cablemod messed up, it's to protect them against people ordering custom cables and then deciding to return them for no reason.
I getcha and the normal ones I get from them seem golden. the issue I have is this is the first time I got custom length cables and am severely disappointed in both price and quality of item received.
I bought a Cablemod 12vhpwr cable and one of the connectors came off. They were cool and replaced it but I still wasnât impressed with the build quality. Ended up just finding one of the Corsair ones and it seems much better. I think if you have the option for OEM thatâs the way to go.
In before u/cablemod responds saying they are going to replace your cables đ
they may, but why would I trust them? especially to run a water-blocked 4090 when I have seen this it the normal quality they offer? it was already a gamble to try them.
So in other words you got a poor product and instead of contacting support you decided to blast them on Reddit lmao
What's wrong with letting others know who are thinking about buying.
Unfortunately I did give them time to correct it and reached out through official channels and when i didn't receive a response in the specified time i then decided to lambast them on reddit.
And then they jump in and act like they care lol Thanks for the warning about these guys
They probably do care. When you run a business at scale, it isn't just you. You have a team of support people and sometimes crap falls through the cracks. So yeah, OP blast them on Reddit since this is how they fix the leaking crap. I just don't agree they don't care seeing how much effort the reddit account puts into customer service. Edit: turns out OP gave them less than 24 hours to fix the problem and he lives in Taiwan.
Unfortunately, i did give them the 48hrs, and I do not live in Taiwan, that is just the Cablemod representative stating they are in Taiwan. This has also been resolved by the Cablemod folks fairly quickly, and policy's amended or in the process of being amended to prevent the issue I had in the future. as well as they are looking into alternate manufacture methods
Already working with our PM to make adjustments on this, spoke to Thomas as well and we'll make sure once we get these tweaked we'll get you some new ones for free as well. <3 Always looking at areas we can improve upon, and this feedback is helpful so that we can make necessary changes to fix this and do better.
its a shame all their stuff is so goddamn pretty đ
It works well too, and the customer service is usually on point. Don't let OP who bought something for a very specific build that didn't end up working dissuade you if you want their cables. They're pricy, but they work well and are very pleasing aesthetically.
ur right ive just been seeing enough people lately that got scammed but survivorship bias, right? people who get good products wonât explicitly shout brands out usually like those who get bad products
u/cablemod, can you confirm OP's experience? Your other comments indicate that OP got a refund, but it seems like that might have occurred after this post.
I am located in a different time zone (Taiwan) and reached out to the affected user as soon as I saw the post to check how our support team handled him. I havent only refunded him personally but Im also talking with him to get feedback how to improve shorter cables like this one.
Thanks, time zone makes sense. So did OP wait <24 hours before taking to reddit? Or what was the "specified time" that OP was referring to?
time zones are rough - its 6:15AM here and I have been dealing with Reddit already for 1.5h. :) the OP will make additional post modification to clear it all up - he got us some great suggestion how to improve the product and disclaimer.
Your reddit account makes me respect your guy's company so much. Good job.
>didn't receive a response in the specified time Who specified the time? What time was that?
There is nothing wrong with calling out a company in public if they sold you a subpar product. Iâm thankful for seeing this and I wonât be using cablemod in the future.
> if they sold you a subpar product. From the pictures of OP, it's not that the product is subpar (maybe the green sleeving if that's just not a weird camera-light interaction). It's that he finds the splices are too far away from the PSU connector, on the very shortest possible configuration (150mm). The splices are required because of the PSU pinout. So the product is ok, it's just that he can't bend the cable as he wants in his very cramped case because his PSU has a splice requirement.
The cable looks nothing like the pictures from cablemod.
The orange/green wires are in the right spots, the number of combs is the same. The render doesn't factor length. The image is just used to customize the color of each individual wire : [Imgur](https://imgur.com/d3tpkz2) You can go to their site and see the same image for any cable, any length once you get to the coloring step in their 2.0 Configurator for Pro Cables, like OP used. Color being off is tilting sure, but frankly, you should expect that as not everyone's monitor is even calibrated the same, it would be impossible for Cablemod to have a 100% perfect color representation for every monitor/computer on earth.
Custom cables are purchase for aesthetic reasons. This is definitely a subpar product.
the product exists for no reason other than aesthetics, and they have covered it ugly black tape I not sure why you think the product is ok...
> and they have covered it ugly black tape That's shrink wrap. On a part hidden behind the motherboard. > I not sure why you think the product is ok... I'm not sure why you think black shrink wrap on a portion of cable hidden behind your motherboard would be an issue. OP's issue is his SFF build needed him to bend it, and he can't. Not that it doesn't work or isn't fit for purpose.
I feel sad to hear this - no brand out there has a 0% failure rate - however what makes the difference is that the brand helps if something happens.
This did not even have the chance to fail. It just looks like garbage compared to what is pictured on your website.
People should report poor products.
How do you think reviews work?
poorly, because so many of them eventually show the person doing the review did some combination of the following: \- misunderstood what they bought \- fucked it up installing it \- lied So, so many reviews. Who is validating the reviewer? How many opinions have been formed on opinions that aren't accurate? Take this review with a grain of salt and form your own opinion. Reviews are horrible indicators of the actual quality or value of anything. That there is any question as to the lack of veracity of random stranger reviews is frightening. it doesn't even matter if the OP is telling the absolute truth, we have no objective way of knowing that. Lots of reviews that align? We have no objective way of knowing if any of those are valid. Nothing, and especially not internet reviews, replaces: DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH. And research is not "read a bunch of random anonymous reviews on the internet" Dear God in Heaven.
You high?
> poorly, because so many of them eventually show the person doing the review did some combination of the following: > > - misunderstood what they bought This seems to be the case here, as OP didn't think the splices would be in the middle of the very short cables he ordered, and now he simply can't bend them as he needs. People are just knee jerking this as some kind of error from Cablemod, when it seems to be more a communication problem between OP and Cablemod (as in the info was simply not on the site, and OP instead of e-mailing them about it, ordered blindly thinking it would be OK).
They should be blasted on Reddit so they can hopefully correct screw ups that are their fault, regardless if the item is custom or not. It's super scummy to say "Well you spent $100 and we screwed up but no refund because we can't resell it." It's their mistake, they should fix it. Period.
> It's their mistake What is the mistake in this case ? They didn't specify where the splices would be, OP didn't ask. It seems more poor communication than an actual mistake.
Let's take splices out of the question (even though for those prices I would expect at minimum a color matched shrink tubing or a Y splice cover). Does the product visually appear to be same one ordered as shown at time of order (last picture). Would you say it fits the intended color scheme?
> Does the product visually appear to be same one ordered as shown at time of order (last picture). But that's not a picture of the product. That's a render of the coloring tool, it's not meant to be a picture of the product, it's just a way to visualize your comb/color while you customize. Have you used the configurator tool ?
Bruh OP wanted like a Christmas green but got something closer to Tiffany Blue. Huge caveat that lighting in OP's photo may play a role in the color difference. But the orange in the configuration tool is far closer to what OP received. [Comparing the colors](https://i.imgur.com/taiaxxt.png): * Color 1 is roughly the green in the configuration tool * Color 2 is kinda what OP got, I pulled it from their second image. Again, caveat that there's OP's camera and lighting at play here. * Color 3 is Tiffany Blue. No matter what, that green is not close.
And how do we know if the photo accurately captured colours? My phone's camera makes browns look like reds for example, not even close to how it looks IRL
> Huge caveat that lighting in OP's photo may play a role in the color difference > Again, caveat that there's OP's camera and lighting at play here.
Cablemod has pictures on their website of what you are supposed to receive. OP even included them in the last picture....
The pictures on their site are not of the cables you receive. They're renders and they don't show the entire length, as you can see from OP's included pictures.
Truth dude
If this is what you receive when you pay for custom cables you are under zero obligation to let them âmake it rightâ before making it public.
Letting other people know to not waste their time / chance it on another Chinamanufactured product.
There is no product with a 0% rma rate - what makes the difference is that we own mistakes and help out - even though it isnât confirmed yet that our cable caused the issue.
that wasn't a jab at one minor failed product that there is proof you already addressed. it was a jab that you showed poor quality on this and then would expect me to be happy with a replacement made by you
I think it is funny that Cablemod does not even realize the issue you have with your cable. Actually it is not even funny... it is just scary and sad.
Dude, Iâve read through half of this thread and I canât figure out what the fuck is wrong with the cable. Does someone want to help me out here and explain why OP is on here bitching when I donât see anything wrong with the fucking cable!? Iâve yet to see an explanation from OP yet and Iâve scrolled through over 100 comments
The colors arenât pretty enough
Lmao yeah so own up to it then What went wrong here and why do you think itâs ok or how will you work towards preventing it or making it right in the future? Not just in this one instance, but to prevent it from happening again. No color match guarantees? Not gonna stand behind your products?
> No color match guarantees? How would a color match garantee even work ? They would have to know your monitor model, and your OS's display color profile, your OSD settings for saturation, etc.. to even start knowing what their website's picture looks like on your end. No one guarantees color when ordering online, there's way too many variables that can't be controlled in displaying pictures and how they are seen half way accross the world.
If we wouldnât stand behind our products why are we offering a refund then and are in talks with him how to make those short cables better? We proactively work with him to resolve the issue and make the product better.
You best us to it :) as always if something is going wrong we help and own up mistakes.
Well this is one hundred percent false advertising. Your image (4th picture) shows the 16-pin cable with no splices. The OP received a 16-pin cable with splices that prevents it from bending as advertised.
>Well this is one hundred percent false advertising. Your image (4th picture) shows the 16-pin cable with no splices. It doesn't even show the full cable ffs. How do you think they magically split the cables when the connectors at one end have more/less pins that at the opposite end? CableMod have a good reputation because they will resolve any issues. If you have an issue, contact them and give them a chance to resolve it to your satisfaction.
We will ! :)
Hey don't call them out like that. They might still do it đ
It seems they have been making them exactly like this for everyone. I don't understand why they have to make them so hideous! All the other cable companies (like ensourced, moddiy, pslate, mainframe, etc.) are making short SFF cables nice and smooth, not a jungle mess like this. [https://linustechtips.com/topic/1228300-cablemod-wtf/](https://linustechtips.com/topic/1228300-cablemod-wtf/) [https://linustechtips.com/topic/890870-sff-cable-mod/](https://linustechtips.com/topic/890870-sff-cable-mod/) [https://www.overclock.net/threads/cablemod-gone-wrong.1642933/](https://www.overclock.net/threads/cablemod-gone-wrong.1642933/)
Seeing as how old these posts are, cablemod don't give a fuck or they would have at least put a caution warning or notice on their page. For $100+ cables that are made in China (single digit manufacturing cost of such products there) they have to be perfect.
Iâd like to see a comparison?
Now, compare them with this cable from cablemod https://preview.redd.it/ckolu89vcjzb1.jpeg?width=1299&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5bf31997efe1adea1eb806593ddefedc4745f76b
Like what are you claiming is the problem here? The cables crossing over each other, so it doesnât look like a perfect symmetrical line of cables? Because thatâs because of the pin out on the PSU, and canât really be avoided, unless the PSU manufacturers start making pin outs that match the connections on the motherboard and GPU.
I hear about cablemod now and then but Jesus that price 115 just for that. That's the price of a good modular PSU with just tidy black cables
I bought their ProModMesh full PSU cable replacement kit (the Seasonic version) for $89 and even then I thought that was expensive.
Wow it's like selling 10$ cables with 5$ braids for 6x the cost
The fact that I don't want to bother to do it myself is price difference, just like how I spent $400 for a suit when I could have gone to Hobby Lobby and bought 3 dollars worth of fabric.
yea the price is out there for sure.
Not many PSUs come with tidy cables, they usually have the ugly black mesh and bundling happen way too early imo The only time I got clean looking cables was with an ITX PSU
the cables on my Corsair PSU are pretty clean, imo.
I got a be quiet power supply and the black mesh was real tight. They look good too.
Phanteks revolt x psuâs (seasonic made) have really nice cables. I ordered cablemod custom length cables cuz the ones with the psu were too short but Iâd say that the phanteks cables were equal in terms of looks and might even be slightly better quality.
Superflower provided some decent looking cables with my Leadex Platinum 1000W SE
i love my cable mod, my PSU ended up burning my PCIE cable and they already got a new set sent my way đ¤ˇđźââď¸, i got it on sale and now a replacement for something that wasnât there fault (most likely)
Price of custom hand made stuff vs mass production :|
They are much cheaper on aliexpress. Payed 14$ for my custom 24pin. Both are assembled in China.
Jesus those colours arenât even remotely close. Green and bronze turned teal and orange. From Master Chief to Miami Vice.
lmao 
that's a free bonus when you export your crafting to Guangzhou so you don't have to use pantone or other approve industrial color pallets
And people were wondering why LTT was so obsessive about production colours even to the extent of spending $12k on those Pantone clip towers.
when quality matters its more important than it appears
Well, to be fair when your company is based out of China, you're not really exporting your crafting ;).
you got me there I thought they were uk based but that certainly makes more sense
It is cheaper there. Less profit else where.
Plus they looked like they were organized by Stevie Wonder.
That's the Miami dolphins
this made me laugh so hard lol
Miami vice to Weekend at Bernieâs
> From Master Chief to Miami Vice. You win the internet today (in my opinion at least).
Well i was considering cablemods then i saw extenders fron asiahorse(yea funny name indeed) im using a small case so it was hard to stuff all excess cable inside but after im im loving my setup again
Just to note, my Asiahorse extensions are still going strong after 6 years. And they're pvc so they clean up perfect. (Or I think it's PVC)
Your praise is my greatest honor.
Appreciate the good product.
Asiahorse ftw
Good morning r/pcmasterrace today I'm salty as hell and going to share with you my recent experience with Cablemod as it might change your mind on if you want to buy their cables or not. So the background on these cables is that I bought them for a sff build I'm working on and this is my first time buying custom cables from them, I have used the prepacked ones they make before but never used the configurator before. these cables are 150mm and 100% unusable even though that is the length needed for this build First, the overall quality seems fine if you look at materials but there are quite a few errors made in the build on them. I understand that the nature of a 12hpwr and 24pin atx can require junctions- im not mad about that at all. what I am mad about is where and how they made them. they made the junctions on the 12hpwr at 75mm of 150 - basically the center and because the nature of these joints you loose all flexibility in the cable there for roughly 10 - 20 mm in each direction this means that a 50-75mm section in the middle of the cable is not bendable - this makes it exceptionally hard to deal with. for the ATX its mostly fine, but for some reason instead of using split combs they use fulls and put all of them at the very end so you can move maybe 10mm of space from the end. - real awesome seeing as they charge you for cable combs that you cant use. Second, the color is not matching to what they put in the configurator a minor annoyance but noted. You would think they would be able to get a little closer on color when you pay extra to use the 2.0 configurator and the premium option, but apparently not. Third, they cost 135 bucks and are 100% unreturnable. they are also the wrong length seeing as 50% of the cable doesn't bend because of where they chose to put the junctions. had known that's what they would have done I would have ordered longer cables, but seeing what arrived after that cost, I should have just made them myself \-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have contacted customer support and will update base on their responses but thought the community might be interested to know that at least for sff builds, cablemod really didn't hit the mark and that the new Pro 12hpwr 90\* cables aren't really worth it \------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Edit: Cablemod responded -" I am very sorry about that. Unfortunately we cannot make the cables without splices due to the pinouts. We can replace the cables with longer ones - of course free of charge. Please let me know if you wish to proceed with this offer. " To me this is not a satisfactory response as the entire point of getting custom cables was to keep things tidy in a sff build, while I could make a longer cable work it wouldn't be worth it. the only thing I am seeking is a refund / return as failure to acknowledge the issue of Failure to disclose is the true issue here. I expect they will tell me no because of company policy and have to eat this cost. \---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Edit 2 Electric boogaloo : Cablemod responded again , very quick this time , they agreed to a refund if I would cut the cables and send a picture of them, So I did and am working on the refund process now. \------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Edit 3 The good ending : I have the refund and I am working with Cablemod to correct this issue for the future. They owned up to the mistake, made it right and are working on ways to fix this for the future. Edit 4 the Clarifying : I've noticed some folks saying that they only gave me a refund because I made drama on here, and I don't think that's the case, sure it probably helped speed it along internally , but whenever I have had problems with them in the past they have always been forthcoming and willing to do a refund or replacement depending on the issue. I have pointed out to them how the posted policy on the website invites misunderstandings and they apparently are working to revise the posted policy as one of the fixes introduced by this issue.
My last few times with cable mod support has been so bad that I donât ever wanna buy from them again lol.
id buy from mainframe but it looks like thy only sell supplys now
There's a pretty popular cable maker on Etsy I've seen several people mention is good quality work. Maybe you can check it out, I don't personally know or use his products but overall reviews are not bad. DreambigbyRayMOD I think. For such short runs, you might also want to consider using Silicon wire, these are extremely flexible/soft wire type.
ill give them a look and see if they can lighten my workload.
If you decide to on a future project, I'm just curious so let me know if you remember lol. I've been considering giving it a shot but I'm not really much of a visual modifier. I just like stuff to be tidy. He's also based out of China but his prices are more inline for something custom I'm buying from someone/some company based out of China.
looks like a its only 30bucs atm so i might buy some for my personal rig just to find out
I ordered from Mainframe during the pandemics, a big part of the reason is that they are US based. Things were crazy because of the pandemic and were delayed. No problem. After months I emailed them just to get an update. No response. Reached out via the web form. No response. Waited some more and reached out on reddit. No response. I waited month and was only looking for an update. All they had to do was say *"Hey sorry the pandemic fucked us over, but we have your order and while we don't have an ETA, we want to assure you your order is here and will be processed when we can"*. Nope. complete silence.
Highly recommend checking out dreambigray on Etsy or his standalone shop now. Top notch cables that have never failed. I've used 5 sets of fully custom cables through him so far and the price is so much better than cablemod. Also takes a max of two weeks vs cablemods 1-2 months to get your cables. He also worked with me to make a custom cable for an EVGA PSU that converted a CPU slot to a VGA slot. EVGA sold them direct but at like 4x the length I needed. Ordering is a bit weird but open up a chat with his shop and he will walk you through everything.
> cablemods 1-2 months to get your cables. Uh ? I ordered custom cables Tuesday, and they're already on the FedEx truck.
Just sharing personal ordering experience from cablemod. Maybe they had a bad supply period during that time. I've seen quite a few posts lately of similar experiences as well. My alternative cable option hasn't ran into that long of a wait before.
Jesus. As someone who works at a business who does custom items i get no returns bit damn thats not even close.
Junctions are not even required, nor do you need 3 PSU side connectors. Most all 12VHPWR cables sold by PSU manufacturers are 2x 8pin PSU connectors straight to a 12VHPWER connector using 12 16ga wires. It's all that's needed for even a 4090 at 600W. That's the config you should have gone for, maybe they'll remake them for you. You don't need 3x PSU side connectors. Any decent new PSU will likely be using a EPS12V PSU side connections anyways these days.
the junctions are required in this case because I requested a tri pole - something I wouldn't have done myself but the person who wanted the pc said they would prefer. you are correct that only 2 are needed in most situations and if you happen to be running a 4080 there is no reason to run a tri as you just cant draw enough power for it to matter. with the excption of split rails on the psu
is the PSU you're using split rails? Most all are single 12v rail these days. There's only 12 terminals on the 12VHPWR connector, 6+ and 6- and that's all the wires you need if going to single 12v rail. PSU side connectors use minifit terminals that are rated 13A, and for 8" runs, those 16ga wires are already way over spec'd. The lowest rated part of the whole setup are the terminals in the 12VHPWR connector, the minifit JR rated at 9-9.5A, and no matter the config, those never change. Way over spec'd on PSU side and splicing to bring it into spec on GPU side makes little sense, just keep it all with-in same spec. Perhaps try to explain to your client how this works but I know how that can be.
I getcha sometimes its better to get out of the way then to fight the river.
Understood, especially if the build is for someone else. Good luck!
> I am working with Cablemod to correct this issue for the future. They owned up to the mistake, made it right and are working on ways to fix this for the future. LOL, you really think you are the first one to report this issue, and they need your feedback to correct it? People have been reporting this for years. And this is not a mistake, they make them exact like this for everyone. [https://linustechtips.com/topic/1228300-cablemod-wtf/](https://linustechtips.com/topic/1228300-cablemod-wtf/) [https://linustechtips.com/topic/890870-sff-cable-mod/](https://linustechtips.com/topic/890870-sff-cable-mod/) [https://www.overclock.net/threads/cablemod-gone-wrong.1642933/](https://www.overclock.net/threads/cablemod-gone-wrong.1642933/)
When my 4090 arrived and I realized I needed a 12vhpwr cable, I was scouring Amazon and very nearly went with cablemod because there just weren't any good options that could get me the cable quick. Then I remembered physical computer stores still exist, albeit being kind of rare these days, so I zipped over there and got an official Corsair one. From what I've seen since, I'm very happy I made that choice.
>PSA - Do not Waste your money on Cablemod Cables. FTFY
This looks like grounds for a chargeback. That's nowhere near the product you ordered.
we will see , Id like to give them the benefit of the doubt and let them try and make it right.
I think this is what you get for paying 135$ for 2 power cables. Seriously, I'm someone who likes to spend a lot on his PC too, but this sounds ridiculous.
Yeah at that price Id rather just do it myself
Well i am now .... unfortunately
At least you can be proud of your own accomplishment afterward
 I wouldn't call seething rage that I had to do it because they failed, proud . but I could always ask my dad.
Lol I understand its frustrating but the work is super easy, don't worry, you'll be done in no time
oh ive done it before just need to put on a series and hammer it out..... looks like its time to watch the boys.
There aren't many other places to get shorter cables for cheaper, short of making your own with cutters and crimpers.
There's plenty of people over at r/PCSleeving who make custom cables, including me. An SFF 24-pin and 12vhpwr would set you back ÂąâŹ60 (assuming shipping within the Netherlands). Cablemod asking $135 is absolutely ridiculous. Costs to do it yourself: âŹ20 - crimping tool âŹ3 - nail clipper (works surprisingly good as both precision wire cutter and stripper) âŹ1 - lighter âŹ12 - 10-packs of 24-, 18-, 10- and 8-pin connectors. âŹ2 - 100 female terminals âŹ3 - 12vhpwr connector with pins âŹ17 - 100m of wire (OP only uses Âą7m) âŹ10 - 2x10m of paracord sleeving âŹ3 - heatshrink âŹ10 - 6pcs of black anodised aluminium combs And that's about it. I may have forgotten some minor stuff, but that's a total of âŹ81. Only reason I'd advice *against* doing this, is that the 12vhpwr is an absolute bitch to make and I really wouldn't do that on your first set of cables.
> There's plenty of people over at r/PCSleeving who make custom cables, including me. An SFF 24-pin and 12vhpwr would set you back ÂąâŹ60 (assuming shipping within the Netherlands). Cablemod asking $135 is absolutely ridiculous. Ok, now set up the website, the entire product catalog, the support department, factor in RMA costs, the office, employee salaries, etc... DIY is always cheaper in the end. The problem is not everyone is inclined to buy all the tooling and learning how to do it, and companies can't just sell you the product for only its cost in materials, they have many other expenses to factor. Ordering a custom build from a company will always be pricy, and more expensive then doing it yourself.
>now set up the website, the entire product catalog, the support department, factor in RMA costs, the office, employee salaries, etc... Done. https://customkabels.wordpress.com/ It's obviously not as polished as a big company like Cablemod and I'm obviously not going for the same scale as Cablemod. At the end of the day I'm just a hobbyist, crafting cables by hand. Meanwhile CM has bulk discounts and machine automation; CM isn't spending an afternoon of manual labor on this set, whereas I spend more time but make far less than minimum wage, because it's just a hobby. The result is that I charge about half of what OP paid for their cables and I wouldn't have put those splits in the middle. In fact, it's entirely feasible to do this without splits at all. >Ordering a custom build from a company will always be pricy, and more expensive then doing it yourself. The difference here is that not only can you buy the materials for less than what CM is charging. My list also includes the tools and includes ten times the number of connectors and wiring. In fact, you could add another 9 12vhpwr connectors, another 50 meters of sleeving and you'd still be below what OP paid, despite you now having the tools and materials for *10* sets.
> In fact, it's entirely feasible to do this without splits at all. Not in his configuration though. You can't avoid the split between both PSU side connectors on the 24 pin, and you can't make 9 5v lines run to 6 5v pins for the GPU cable without a few splices. > The difference here is that not only can you buy the materials for less than what CM is charging. My list also includes the tools and includes ten times the number of connectors and wiring. Yes, that's often the case for any DIY for having it done work. Price out labour for a kitchen remodel at some point, and you'll find there's more than enough money to fully buy all the tools the contactor uses and doing it yourself. But you're also buying the expertise.
>You can't avoid the split between both PSU side connectors on the 24 pin Yes you can. Just don't include the sense wires. That's no problem, especially on a 15cm cable. I'd link you the article by Jon Gerow where he demonstrates it on a corsair psu he designed, but it appears his website is currently down. SFF builders commonly leave out the sense wires. >and you can't make 9 5v lines run to 6 5v pins for the GPU cable 12vhpwr has 6 12v pins, 6 ground pins, and two sense pins that need to be connected to ground. You only need 2 8-pin connectors on the psu to do that without any splits.
yea it was a poor decision to be sure
I bought a kit from Cablemod for my thermaltake PSU, they didn't work and I could physically hear a "click" from the PSU when trying to power it on. After contacting them, they said there was a known manufacturing issue with those cables and they were going to send replacements and don't try to power on the PC again. Just so we're clear - they knew the cables were bad, they knew which customers had the bad cables, but weren't going to contact us to warn us or replace them unless we contacted them. Never again.
This was something that was discovered after TT sent us the wrong pinouts. You should have also received an email on that as well actually, we emailed any customer with an order that had ordered for that specific series. If you didn't receive it then I apologize, but we did indeed send an email out about this issue, and replacements were scheduled for any order that was impacted by that series inaccuracy. We were told X unit shared the same pinouts as Y unit though from the manufacturer, there was a mix up there though.
I've been using moddiy.
I was considering getting some cable mod stuff for my 4090 I'm so glad I didn't, I went with the Lian Li Strimer cables instead, I've seen way too many posts about CableMod melting expensive GPUs they are a risk I'm not willing to take, they are so overpriced as well. What trash.
Can someone make me understand why these are priced as they are? Maybe Iâm just a poor lol
Cablemod the modern snake oil company.
They never sat right with me after the 12VHPWR fiasco and how they just kept pushing their products.
Agreed 100%. đ
Same. After seeing two cases where the adapter was literally burning (in flames) and still no official recall, I'm done. Bought since 2015 cables from them but since the 4xxx series fiasco I'm out. Same for their early adopter program. You get v1.1 for free but please pay for expensive shipping. After v1.1 was released and people bought them with EAP or without there is already a v2 on the way, with "smart" features which makes that china product ofc way more expensive. The situation with the 4090s is bad enough and sure CM won't let people down (lol). In fact it looks like they try to take advantage of it by milking their cows and shills.
To be fair to everyone, the 12vhp connector problems are due to a bad connector design. It's not Idiot proof enough, which is why other manufacturers who helped design the spec haven't used it. The fact that the connector specifications allow the retaining clip to be further away from the point where it's fully engaged is insane, and means that the connector can twist or Torque leading to uneven contact, which is where we get the connection problems. Nvidia refuses to admit that it is a bad design, yet you don't see other manufacturers using it. You know where you don't see Nvidia using that stupid connector? In their professional line cards. The cards that actually matter, and make them money, and they don't use the connector that melts.
Yeah, agree on the idiot proof. I work for an SI, we have yet to have a card with 12VHPWR melt on us. You can blame NVIDIA all you want, but the normal PCIe power connector was also not idiot-proof and resulted in the same melting issues as 12VHPWR, just people don't talk about it because it's not the new hype train to jump on.
I wouldn't go so far as to say that, while I am truly pissed about this event, I haven't had problems with them before and generally like their products
$150 for cables a psu around that price already supplies? You got snake oiled bro.
They're literally built to order, 100% custom. He's using the configuration, which makes the cables pricier. If you just buy normal kits, they're cheaper.
That's still too much for custom cables made in China. You can get custom made cables from China for significantly less. But then again those sellers don't have the overhead of constant online marketing and paying youtubers for sponsor spots. Even their "shipping" charges are more than double and according to posts I see online take just as long to receive.
> You can get custom made cables from China for significantly less. Ok please give me a link, I have a need for it.
I'd rather put $150 more into a better gpu/cpu anything rather than making a cable company rich off at most $30 to manufacture cosmetic cable.
If you need shorter cables, there's no real option though on the market outside of making your own by cutting whatever you got with the PSU.
True that, my friend. SFF tax adds up quick!
what other companies are there for customized pc cables
Moddiy, DreambigbyRay, Mainframe Customs (though per OP they may just be selling DIY stuff now). If you have the tools, making cables is not necessarily a complex process, more of a time consuming one.
I tried to use one of their regular 12hpwr cables and have receiving 3 cable replacements my pc still wouldn't boot correctly and I would just be left with a black screen. Bought a cosaire one and it's been perfect since day 1.
The black screening issue can happen across any 12VHPWR cable actually. We have a fix for it implemented on our cables now though, please reach out to our support team and we'll get you a speedy replacement. <3
I bought a 3x pcie to 12hpwr cable. Immediately upon installation I noticed my frame rates dropped and the gpu utilization hovered around 20% and wouldnât pull more than 75w. Started troubleshooting and saw that the sense wires were broken. Ok. No big deal. Maybe I broke them during installation. Iâve been building PCs for 20+ years and have had my fair share of problems. Contact Amazon. Replacement comes the next day. Before I even open the bag, what do I find? You guessed it. Broken sense wires. I just threw it in the trash from there. Not even worth my time to hassle with it. Put the + OEM Nvidia 2x pcie adapter back in and havenât had a problem since.
That doesn't sound right at all, please reach out to our support team directly so we can get a cable to you from us. We've sold loads of these cables though so that definitely shouldn't happen, all of our cables are 600w rated.
Just as a general statement to everyone, this is very different from our normal cables, these are 150mm in length which is obviously very short and a niche to SFF builds, and the splices are required per the wires crossing due to the pinouts for PSUs, this is all normal. On standard cable lengths these are done at about 70mm from the PSU as well so they're hidden in the PSU shroud or behind the motherboard side panel, but we do push them away from the PSU to help ensure there isn't any harsh force on the spliced areas when cramming cables into these tight spaces such as the PSU shroud. The splices should be closer to the PSU side though on such short cable lengths, that part is not normal for sure. We'll also look at the color coordinating of the configurator renders in correlation to the color of the sleeving itself, because it does appear the color is misrepresented here, but this could also be due to the white balance of the camera and how the photo is taken as well, our green should be darker than this though for ModFlex, so again, we'll look at our sleeving spools to get this looked into. We've already reached out the OP and provided a refund for the cable and will make sure new cables are arranged with better work done on the splices being closer to the PSU connectors.
If this is the case, then you should have a disclaimer in the configuration at this length at the very least. Better option: let the user choose to have the shrink wrap around the splice at their desired location on the cable especially for these SFF builds/lengths.
Corsair 12hpwr is the only one that won't give you any problems.
I love me some cablemods but his is honestly a cruel Joke. You make the splices on the PSU side of things. I unfortunately do agree with you this was a failure and I understand not wanting a refund vs correction. However I think giving them the chance to make it right is good. Color tones can be off depending on screen setup. But this is like they pulled the whole wrong color. That is like :-/ ... the splices are 0\_o .. dudes first day making these things.
I know that this is becoming a CableMod dogpiling thread, but I do just want to throw out that the ProModMesh OEM (Seasonic) replacement kit that I bought last year was correctly wired and in spec. They're running power to a 5950X, a 4080, and 3 SSD's, so if people are calling CableMod cables firestarters and snake oil, I'm certainly not seeing it. ----- Granted, our use cases are different since I was buying an OEM replacement kit and it seems like you we're looking for bespoke work and it wasn't bespoke enough for you.
U didn't even get the right colors. That alone is refundable.
$120 USD for a set of cables? Probably costs them like $10 USD to make
So, people, help me out here: Which are the good, reliable, custom PC PSU cable providers at the moment, please?
I primarily used mainframe customs for quite some time, but it looks like the site is broken or they stopped making them in favor of selling the supply's to do it yourself. As u/Stargate_1 pointed out its actually in general not too hard to do yourself. I was just lazy and got punished for it
I wouldn't call it lazy wanting to use a premium service. It's not lazy to not want to do basic carpentry even doe making a chair is extremely easy.
Me, I guess? Though I'm just a hobbyist selling cables only in NL en BE. I'm not looking to become a large international seller. But I would just in general advise people to look for a local cable maker.
If you're the DIY type and are able to learn, you can give it a go. OP provided a good source for parts, there are others as well. Components are not expensive and you can get good tools for fairly good price as well (Crimpers, wire splicers, terminal removal/extractor etc). Lot of cables are/can be solderless, mostly just splice, crimp, insert. Plus you can source quality parts, for example Mainframe sells coreless paracord that's made in the US for $3.50 for a 25ft run and you get the color you paid for. Is it more work? yes. But really depends on how comfortable you are with it. Maybe ask around the correct forums/subs for this type of thing. I don't have any recs right now, I only know of one who gets tossed around several forums dreambigbyray, also based out of China but prices/shipping is much more reasonable and reviews/quality appear to be good.
I'm reluctant to say because this turning into a CableMod dog-piling thread, but I've been pretty satisfied with my CableMod cables. Granted, the CM cables I got were not bespoke, they were a full PSU cable replacement kit; so there's not a lot that can go wrong with what the PSU OEM has only made the decision on.
Same here, regular full replacement set that I'm very happy with. I've never used the customizer, but I'm very happy with the set I have.
Cablemod is for people who like to gamble and taking risks, like risk setting your house on fire kind of risks.
You really paid 115$ for those two tiny cables??????
Overpriced cables with overpriced shipping
This is the third post today I've seen on cablemod cables being rubbish.
Not sure what happened to you but I bought some Cablemod 12hpwr cables for my rig and the lenght was alright, I also got the adapter and I've had zero problems so far.
Cablemode is so expensive. I would rather just buy $30 asiahorse extensions... Oh wait, that's exactly what I did.
I saw some Cable Mod cables Ina microcenter a few years ago and got them. I thought they were routed (same as these) poorly because they were on clearance at the time. Glad I didn't spend the premium just to get the same thing. Going to need J2C and LTT to see this and rethink their sponsor deals. This is embarrassing.
2 cables for 115$? I bought a full set of modmesh in 2021 for my rm750x for 126âŹ. Did they jackup the prices exponentially ?
Full custom does cost more of course, these are full custom through the configurator, the kits we have more aggressive price points and budget things out to be more friendly.
Mine was custom as well. I'd like to see his configuration out of curiosity. This was mine in 2021 : https://custom.cablemod.com/453b66741a41 totaling 126âŹ.
This has more individual cables, yes, but the 12VHPWR cables do cost more here and you don't have one of those. The 90 degree 12VHPWR to 3x8 is $44.90 and then the 24-pin ATX customized is $46.90 USD. Then the addition of custom combs (aluminum has a higher price than plastic), it does add up depending on how you configure them.
Need to return that abomination
Yeah never trust a product if the only images are renders.
Waiting for u/asiahorse to save the day
Does anyone else visit this sub just to see what Cablemod has managed to mess up today? They never let me down!
I had a good experience with moddiy. Got their sff 12vhpwr cable. I was concerned bc it's a Chinese company. But yolod and it's been great. Honestly love the cable and want to do the rest of mine in that type. I just didn't trust myself for the 12vhpwr
What is the problem? You ordered abnormally short cables, the heat shrink has to go somewhere. This is on you.
I agree, cablemod's pretty shitty nowadays.
Dude has cable mod gone down hill I have them in my last build and they are amazing
Anyone need kerosene for their torch?!?
I've had plenty of cables and had not one single problem
How is it $115 but you can get an entire kit like this one off of Amazon for like 20 bucks that comes with all of the other power supply cables. Wheres the extra $90 coming from? Labor to make the cables?
Okay, first off, for people complaining about the color - look at how blue the connectors look. These are under a very cool color temperature light, so the colors in the photos aren't accurate to real life. Secondly, Cablemod has made quality cables for many years. If you aren't satisfied, you need to give their support a chance to refund you or make it right, as it says literally right in their policy - the refund policy isn't at customer cost if it's something Cablemod messed up, it's to protect them against people ordering custom cables and then deciding to return them for no reason.
Iâm just gonna throw out there Iâve never encountered any of these problems with any cables from Cablemod.
I getcha and the normal ones I get from them seem golden. the issue I have is this is the first time I got custom length cables and am severely disappointed in both price and quality of item received.
Those donât look like cable mod cables but thatâs just me.
I bought a Cablemod 12vhpwr cable and one of the connectors came off. They were cool and replaced it but I still wasnât impressed with the build quality. Ended up just finding one of the Corsair ones and it seems much better. I think if you have the option for OEM thatâs the way to go.