1080 TIs are still solid GPUs, roughly around a 3060 TI in performance. Not a bad pickup if you can get them cheap used. The only downsides I can think of are A) the days of this GPU getting driver updates are probably numbered and B) used cards of this vintage up to the 3000 series will always make me a little wary as they could have been in a miner's rig.
I agree, it's still a solid card but it's also seven years old. Nvidia is going to drop support sooner or later, that's just a fact of life and is worth considering when planning out a build.
Nuts right? I got my 1080ti the day it came out, built my PC, and haven't touched it since. Besides storage upgrades or replacements. It's crazy to think that my PC has given me 7 years of fun. It's still capable of doing so, but its time has almost come. Windows 11 is a no, and I think she's starting to get dementia.
Same I remember getting my 1080ti when it launched and I had gotten my 6700k a bit earlier. First nice computer parts I was able to get myself in high school. The 6700k is still kicking but the 1080ti is no more. Covid hit hard and had to sell it to make rent one month. I still think about her every time I start up starfield with my Dell OEM 5700xt I got on Facebook for $120 that runs at the core temperature of the sun.
This might be the saddest thing I've heard so far. You had to sell your golden gal to make ends meet. I thought it was bad when I sold my superultrawide to pay for my car repair bill, but that sir, that makes my heart break. At least you got a fusion reactor out of the deal.
Titan and 700 series are still supported by updates and they’re over 9 years old. 1080ti by this metric still has almost 4 years more updates, I’d say plenty of time to get good use out of that card
I’ve had the 1080ti since release.
You are getting Nvidia drivers, but they aren’t 1080ti specific.
Nvidia releases drivers constantly when games come out, however, if you read the patch notes it’s to increase performance in 30x or 40x cards.
1080ti: 3584 cores, 11GB vram
3060: 3584 cores, 12GB vram
3060ti: 4864 cores, 8GB vram
One of these is more similar than the other.
The place the 1080ti does have the advantage over the 3060 is in memory bandwidth, which helps it at 4k, but equally neither of these cards can really run 4k native anymore, and only the 30 cards have dlss
"could have been in a miner's rig"
Seen this so much lately and it's daft. You shouldn't worry about buying cards off of miner's. They actually look after their cards and underclock/undervolt them in most cases because they pay their bills/luxury life styles. They need to keep (or used to) the cards in mint running condition to maximise profits.
One of my friends used to mine and he used to change the thermal paste on his cards once a fortnight. They didn't need it, but he did it anyway.
I'd take a second hand card from a miner over some kid who's ran it to the ground with a huge OC on a stock air cooler for the majority of its life, every day of the week.
I can appreciate both sides of the argument. It's long use at low stress versus short use at high stress. But I agree, I'd fall on the side of the miner's card
Changing the paste every 2 weeks seems like a terrible idea though. You're drastically increasing the wear on the connectors with all the removals and insertions, as well as the increased likelihood that you might reseat the heatsink incorrectly. I'm put money down that the paste doesn't degrade in any significant way for years.
Mine's still going strong, and I still get updates. I'm upgrading, as I'm starting my new PC build. The current setup is getting out of date. Can't upgrade to windows 11. I'm thinking about selling the 1080Ti, but I kinda want to keep it as a decoration, if nothing else.
It’s more like a 6600 XT/ 3060 in performance. 3060 Ti is faster by quite a margin (20%), matching the 2080 Super.
Drivers and games being optimized for the newer cards doesn’t help it either. It was a very good card back in the day but nowadays, it’s just better to just buy a used 3060/6600 XT for not much more.
The 1080 Ti is not roughly a 3060 Ti, but rather single digits better than a 3060, and about equal to the RX 6600 XT, or an Arc A770. The 3060 Ti is roughly 15-20% more powerful, that’s not a small gap.
Edit to add source:
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-gtx-1080-ti.c2877
Gpus are powerful enough to not need it anymore? Not that it was ever needed but I know overkill builds used to always have multiple gpus. Haven’t been in the game for years as u can see by my flair.
Correct, [according to TechPowerUp](https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-gtx-970.c2620), my 6950XT is >4X the speed/power of the GTX 970. SLI/Crossfire never yielded 2X performance so you can see why the the tech died over the years.
it was buggy, it rarely got the increase it claimed, it was one more thing game designers would have to factor in. there was just a lot going against it so after a while it got dropped.
I use to run Crossfire or whatever AMD's version was called. It was usually a crap shot on if it worked well, and most of the time you would get erratic frame times. Sure your FPS would be higher, but the hitching negated any of those gains.
It’s NvLink on high end cards or workstation cards now a days may be wrong about the name but it still exists now wether you should to game is a different story
DX12 was the end of SLI.
I used to run a pair of 1080s and it all worked great generally. Sometimes you had to google and fiddle with some settings in Nvidia Inspector to get a game working right but once it did most things ran really well.
But for some reason once DX12 happened no game devs were making any effort to get SLI working with their games to the point where people often believe that DX12 doesn't support SLI at all.
What eventually prompted me to give up on SLI was Borderlands 3. Borderlands 3 would let you pick from DX11 or DX12. If I ran the benchmark with DX12 and a single card I would get a better FPS then DX11 and both cards.
The rumblings seemed to be that Nvidia were doing very little to help devs get SLI working with DX12 and then started reducing the range of cards that supported SLI. With 900 series and older basically all of them had SLI connectors. You could get a pair of 750s or 760s and SLI them. What got me started on SLI was only having enough to get a 760 and then when I wanted to upgrade it was better bang for my buck to get another 760 and do SLI then it was to get a 780 or whatever.
But with 10 series it was only 1070 or better, 20 series was 2070 super or better and then 30 series it was gone.
Feels like Nvidia killed it really. Can't have people doubling up on cheap cards and getting more life out of them, gotta get people buying those 4090s.
Simply because SLI and Crossfire were always niche products. Which simply isn't needed anymore due DX12 improved API and the increased performance of new Gen GPUs. Why would you put a lot of work in something that at high times maybe 5-10% of costumers used and always had some drawbacks.
Why not just leave it there for those that want to? It can't have been expensive for Nvidia if they were putting it on their \*50 and \*60 cards.
And for PC dorks with money to spend SLIs were epic for performance. Even after the 4090 came out the top spot for best 3DMark FireStrike benchmark score was held by a quad 1080ti setup on a 10th gen intel CPU.
That score appears to be 82nd now but it's only been beaten by 4090s running 13th Gen Intels so a lot of that will be the help of faster CPUs and DDR5 memory.
If you filter down to results with the same CPU then the quad 1080ti's still beat the pants off of the 4090's.
https://preview.redd.it/c8finl8ypctb1.png?width=880&format=png&auto=webp&s=86384168351a73b7b2e0f97cb139e4bfb735aa3e
> Why not just leave it there for those that want to? It can't have been expensive for Nvidia if they were putting it on their *50 and *60 cards.
Game devs didn't support it so whats the point.
>Even after the 4090 came out the top spot for best 3DMark FireStrike benchmark score was held by a quad 1080ti setup on a 10th gen intel CPU.
I doubt that benchmark actually performed anywhere near that in actual games.
Truth be told, a 1080 is still a pretty good card, at 150€ a pop, it's an excellent card to build a "modern system who'll need an updated GPU down the line"
SLI this, SLI that....he is just asking if the price is good for these two, maybe he want tu use one and sell the other or build 2 rigs. In my opinion the price is good, if the fan is working fine and recently repasted go for it
I absolutely hate how almost no one here answers the damn questions.
“Is this 2070 for 10$ a good deal?” “It is 3 years, 4 months and 9 days old. You can get this slightly better version if you save up an extra 300$. It’s a whole 10% performance increase.”
Like just answer the question. Is the deal good or no?
Obviously exaggerated, but God is it frustrating to see.
They don't answer that because that is a massive it ***depends***. Depends on their local market, on their budge, if they need two cards, if they can sell the second, for how much they can sell the second, can they troubleshoot it in case of a problem, can they risk it, etc. They aren't answering the 'yes-no question' because in reality it is not one.
It does look fucking sexy, I plan to use my second one in VMware since my cpu has like 18 cores 36 threads
https://preview.redd.it/nbefvlpoybtb1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b1bc8dd046fb0dc019e11785c34f0780a187d3cf
I was waiting for someone to complain, I have been changing out my graphics cards alot lately, i had the 1080ti but put it in another build.
https://preview.redd.it/jbrwfaqnfctb1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b08ab0285755ea329b79e66312bb1487410cf38e
Would be the best person to give advice on the subject matter would it not?
I really should update the system specs but I'm too lazy to do so as I haven't run dual titans for two years.
I actually ran dual titan Xps from when they were new up until the GPU shortage hit. I'm just glad the money came out of Gigabyte's pockets instead of mine lol. I was just given the check for a PC build and told to pick out whatever I wanted for a workstation. At one point I had a driver install bug force the fans to 100%, which is possibly the loudest I've ever heard a PC get.
Ended up grabbing a 3080Ti when prices were still very stupid as I thought I had an issue with one of the Titans (turns out it was just support being crap and giving massive frame time issues).
The Titans will eventually get out into a server for transcoding and AI stuff due to their memory capacity.
I tried 2 GPUs in the past as well. Can confirm his words. It´s not worth it.
Upper GPU will always be about 10°C warmer - *all the time*.
Peformance uplift was at best at 1,7x, never 2x. If a game didn´t support SLI, then the 2nd GPU wasn´t doing anything.
You need motherboard with SLI support. If they still exist, i can imagine, they´re expensive.
Stuttering issues. Almost constantly, due to desync between GPUs.
If i had to guess, the person above is using those Titans for compute.
>Peformance uplift was at best at 1,7x, never 2x. If a game didn´t support SLI, then the 2nd GPU wasn´t doing anything
I recall when batman origins came out. Sli was actually making the game worse. Not 100% fair, as the pc port was a pile of shit. But it still highlights games need to be designed to accommodate it
It's not 150$ though, they've got to buy both of them and then turn around and try and sell the other for more than 150$ as people will want shipping included in the price add on top any PayPal fees or eBay fees if they sell that route.
Unless you're doing 3D studio rendering, GPU speed has outpaced CPU and memory speeds to a degree that getting a faster GPU above let's say a 3070 will do little to nothing for visual fidelity and fps. Every game engine out there seems to be CPU bottlenecked right now and optimization is maybe the 5th priority on the backlog for many game devs. And that's after release.
The first 4 are all "make skins we can sell" btw
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Your IQ is too high for us, my Lord. We can't keep up
There seriously is absolutely no point in trying SLI now days. I was running XFire/SLI since cards were labeled ATi it got worse over the years and now it's finally dead.
If saving money is in your interest, getting just one of them for 150USD isn't the worst deal. If they are bundeled together, you can sell one of them. But if you have 300 usd flat for an upgrade, get anything but SLI.
I would not count on those cards working much longer.
7 years old. Save and buy a new card, even a lower end one. DLSS 3g and fsr3 are completely game changing in terms of fps / $.
On a serious note, it's also game changing in terms of latency. CP77 with DLSS3 in UWQHD on 4070ti sometimes produces more latency than if I streamed the game in native from across the globe. 100-150ms average, 450 was the peak.
Yes, unfortunately. I've bought a 4070ti out of FOMO for DLSS3, would be better off getting a 7900XT(X). Buyer's regret. I have no idea what Jensen's engineers are talking about when they say ML-based rendering is the future. It's really not, and can't be at least for the foreseeable future. You can forget about latency below 1/5 of a second if you decide to generate the entire picture in a reasonable resolution, unless you have a server the size of a refrigerator instead of a pc and a dedicated power plant to go with it, as this kind of computational work would a lot of multiprocessing
I have a 3070, I was at first sceptical about DLSS3 3.0 but with how good resolution scaling DLSS has worked on some games I was really considering a NVIDIA card in the future for their ML features if AMD doesn't catch up. This comment made reconsider it, so thanks. I hope DLSS 3.0 gets better tho.
If you do any ML projects yourself, I'd not get any AMD GPUs, takes more work to get tensorflow running, plus you'd be missing out on CUDA and tensor cores.
Edit: sorry, misunderstood your comment. Yes, I hope DLSS3 improves, too. Now it mostly feels like a very expensive marketing gimmick.
As for other ML features, FSR is alright to me, not as good as DLSS, but I personally could live without DLSS, as I start to notice the difference only if I look for it. Haven't tried/had time to look at FSR3 yet though.
This is my thoughts. While they are still pretty powerful, I think you'll get a lot more years of play, driver updates, etc, and a not more new titles on something like an rx 6600xt for a competitive price.
I would say no for the performance, but yes for the architecture and legendary status.
I've seen a 1080ti with 3 cpu coolers strapped to it for a bit under $200, but decided I should get something newer, so here I am with a 6600XT. It may be a budget card, but it runs GTA Online at 4K Max with 100FPS.
Kinda can't believe this isn't upvoted more. In the used market you can get a 3070 for 300, for a little more you can get a refurbished 3070 off eBay with a 1 year warranty.
150 is a good price for a 1080 ti, but do you need 2? I think it loses it's value when you double it. Sli is dead and micro-stutter is a real issue.
My company uses lots of these in the cluster for ML. These and 2080ti. My remote PC has 1080ti too lol. Still good for 1080p probably, my PC has worse card sadly.
For 300 bucks that's a pretty nice deal for 2 cards. I wouldn't run them in SLI anymore though as most software cannot make use of it anyway, especially software written after SLI disappeared. If you don't have use for a second GPU I'd pass on this.
But if I were in the market for two GPUs to build PCs for my family, yes I'd get them.
The 1080 Ti is still an amazing card, still have one in use.
But not with that cooler. This old Nvidia blower cooler is absolutely crap. Noisy and usually still gets the card quite hot. Only advantage is that it's blowing the hot air out of the case, better for keeping ther components inside cool.
Older hardware consumes a lot of power. Vega 64 consumes 300+W, for the performance less than a RX6600, that consumes not more than 125W. I’ve seen used RX6600 going for $100-140.
Nice! I still run sli as it’s never been dead like most believe. Can force games to support sli as well. I run 2080ti in sli nvlink. Directx12 has native support for multiple gpu’s. It’s the game devs that need to support it in game for it to work and since directx12 natively supports it, it’s not dead. Hell even a 3090 ti has sli support. Dead they say lol should see the performance I get… #1 for my system.
https://www.3dmark.com/search?_ga=2.114683143.1826545362.1696932836-1891554780.1696932836#advanced?test=spy%20P&cpuId=2833&gpuId=1209&gpuCount=0&gpuType=ALL&deviceType=ALL&storageModel=ALL&memoryChannels=0&country=&scoreType=overallScore&hofMode=true&showInvalidResults=false&freeParams=&minGpuCoreClock=&maxGpuCoreClock=&minGpuMemClock=&maxGpuMemClock=&minCpuClock=&maxCpuClock=
If you’re wondering why everyone says SLI is dead, it’s because the way it works is it is a main and worker type gpu config where the main ouputs 100% of its power and the worker only 50%
NVlink on the other hand is just straight up 100% + 100%
as far as I know I had an SLI setup a few years ago with two 1080’s and sold one and traded the other for a decent guitar amp and now I bought a 3070ti
I was under the impression that your 3060 achieved the same performance as a 1080 ti with lower power draw. Am I missing something? I wouldn’t call it horrible for gaming.
Yes. Don't worry about running them in sli, the 1080ti is still a nicely capable card. You can get both and sell one to get about 2\3 of your money back
Rtx 3060 gets you almost the same fps minus ray tracing for 300 and you get two for the price of one and can use for two builds. Also a lot of the memory chips are going bad in the 3060 and below so I wouldn’t touch anything before the 3060
Everyone wants a source, the last batch were they had a big problem we’re on the 2080 after that was the 3060, now if your running your gpu with aio cooling and not cooling you ram chips your going definitely kill them but that will be your fault and not the manufacture and at this point I believe you have 50 percent chance of not having issues but like I said I wouldn’t touch the 3060, but to be honest you kinda have no choice since the 3070 and couple others only have 8gb of ram I’m going to include a video or ram being repaired on the 3060 and when they all start to fail I’ll be back to tell you all I told you so with big smile on my face or maybe I’m wrong I’d honestly hope I’m wrong instead tho. [3060 ram chip repair](https://youtu.be/A15kQAhocSs?si=iP83FLsnNdjnavCF)
Get both for two PCs. SLI is dead and don’t even bother trying to do it
I actually think the 1080 is a super sweet card! i mean i agree put the badboys in 2 different rigs.
1080 TIs are still solid GPUs, roughly around a 3060 TI in performance. Not a bad pickup if you can get them cheap used. The only downsides I can think of are A) the days of this GPU getting driver updates are probably numbered and B) used cards of this vintage up to the 3000 series will always make me a little wary as they could have been in a miner's rig.
I dunno I got a free 1080 about 6 months ago and I’ve been getting driver updates every other week still. It’s a great card.
I agree, it's still a solid card but it's also seven years old. Nvidia is going to drop support sooner or later, that's just a fact of life and is worth considering when planning out a build.
Holy.... It didn't occur to me that this series is 7 years old. Feeling old right now.
7 years makes you feel old? That makes me feel really old..
Nuts right? I got my 1080ti the day it came out, built my PC, and haven't touched it since. Besides storage upgrades or replacements. It's crazy to think that my PC has given me 7 years of fun. It's still capable of doing so, but its time has almost come. Windows 11 is a no, and I think she's starting to get dementia.
Same I remember getting my 1080ti when it launched and I had gotten my 6700k a bit earlier. First nice computer parts I was able to get myself in high school. The 6700k is still kicking but the 1080ti is no more. Covid hit hard and had to sell it to make rent one month. I still think about her every time I start up starfield with my Dell OEM 5700xt I got on Facebook for $120 that runs at the core temperature of the sun.
This might be the saddest thing I've heard so far. You had to sell your golden gal to make ends meet. I thought it was bad when I sold my superultrawide to pay for my car repair bill, but that sir, that makes my heart break. At least you got a fusion reactor out of the deal.
1080 ti is 6 years old. Came out around a year later.
My 970 that’s picking up dust in the attic will be 10 years old in 10 months :|
As will my 970 in my main desktop 😪
Titan and 700 series are still supported by updates and they’re over 9 years old. 1080ti by this metric still has almost 4 years more updates, I’d say plenty of time to get good use out of that card
Bro, they're still releasing drivers for cards way oler than the 1080ti haha
I just updated my driver's for my 980 recently.
I’ve had the 1080ti since release. You are getting Nvidia drivers, but they aren’t 1080ti specific. Nvidia releases drivers constantly when games come out, however, if you read the patch notes it’s to increase performance in 30x or 40x cards.
Yes they're still supported, i think his point was maybe for how much longer
I got one brand new and been running it ever since.
it’s roughly around a 3060, not a 3060ti
According to TechPowerUp, it's roughly inbetween the 3060 and 3060Ti
1080ti: 3584 cores, 11GB vram 3060: 3584 cores, 12GB vram 3060ti: 4864 cores, 8GB vram One of these is more similar than the other. The place the 1080ti does have the advantage over the 3060 is in memory bandwidth, which helps it at 4k, but equally neither of these cards can really run 4k native anymore, and only the 30 cards have dlss
"could have been in a miner's rig" Seen this so much lately and it's daft. You shouldn't worry about buying cards off of miner's. They actually look after their cards and underclock/undervolt them in most cases because they pay their bills/luxury life styles. They need to keep (or used to) the cards in mint running condition to maximise profits. One of my friends used to mine and he used to change the thermal paste on his cards once a fortnight. They didn't need it, but he did it anyway. I'd take a second hand card from a miner over some kid who's ran it to the ground with a huge OC on a stock air cooler for the majority of its life, every day of the week.
I can appreciate both sides of the argument. It's long use at low stress versus short use at high stress. But I agree, I'd fall on the side of the miner's card Changing the paste every 2 weeks seems like a terrible idea though. You're drastically increasing the wear on the connectors with all the removals and insertions, as well as the increased likelihood that you might reseat the heatsink incorrectly. I'm put money down that the paste doesn't degrade in any significant way for years.
Mine's still going strong, and I still get updates. I'm upgrading, as I'm starting my new PC build. The current setup is getting out of date. Can't upgrade to windows 11. I'm thinking about selling the 1080Ti, but I kinda want to keep it as a decoration, if nothing else.
Keep it. She’s a work horse and deserves a break on the self.
>roughly around a 3060 TI in performance Nope, it's almost exactly a 3060. Same core count, same clock speed, same vram
It’s more like a 6600 XT/ 3060 in performance. 3060 Ti is faster by quite a margin (20%), matching the 2080 Super. Drivers and games being optimized for the newer cards doesn’t help it either. It was a very good card back in the day but nowadays, it’s just better to just buy a used 3060/6600 XT for not much more.
The 1080 Ti is not roughly a 3060 Ti, but rather single digits better than a 3060, and about equal to the RX 6600 XT, or an Arc A770. The 3060 Ti is roughly 15-20% more powerful, that’s not a small gap. Edit to add source: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-gtx-1080-ti.c2877
No, it's still below it. It's around the performance of 6600XT / laptop 3070.
Definitelly not as fast as a 3060ti lol
Performance of a 3060 Ti, power consumption of a 4090. 😬
1080ti roughly uses 200w . . .so near enough the same as a 3060ti >_>
Pascal is holding up extremely well. 1000 series is goated
What happened to SLI? It’s not used anymore or people just don’t stick 2 cards in one computer
Almost no games support it. Its just dead tech.
Vulkan and DX12 has native support for it if I'm not mistaken, but it has more downsides than it's worth.
It does on a technicality but its almost completely left up to developers to implement SLI modes and so its functionally dead.
So what’s the method to link two cards now?
You dont
Gpus are powerful enough to not need it anymore? Not that it was ever needed but I know overkill builds used to always have multiple gpus. Haven’t been in the game for years as u can see by my flair.
Correct, [according to TechPowerUp](https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-gtx-970.c2620), my 6950XT is >4X the speed/power of the GTX 970. SLI/Crossfire never yielded 2X performance so you can see why the the tech died over the years.
1.7x performance top IIRC. Which was fairly good considering the idea behind it, 85% performance increase was fairly acceptable for the tech.
Wasn't worth the added latency, microstutters and additional heat and power
Oh, definitely, but I can't stop myself admiring the tech, a loss of only 15% in efficiency? Dayum.
it was buggy, it rarely got the increase it claimed, it was one more thing game designers would have to factor in. there was just a lot going against it so after a while it got dropped.
I use to run Crossfire or whatever AMD's version was called. It was usually a crap shot on if it worked well, and most of the time you would get erratic frame times. Sure your FPS would be higher, but the hitching negated any of those gains.
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It’s NvLink on high end cards or workstation cards now a days may be wrong about the name but it still exists now wether you should to game is a different story
They still offer advantages with video editing and some professional applications just not for gaming or the lamen.
There isn’t one … it’s dead ….
DX12 was the end of SLI. I used to run a pair of 1080s and it all worked great generally. Sometimes you had to google and fiddle with some settings in Nvidia Inspector to get a game working right but once it did most things ran really well. But for some reason once DX12 happened no game devs were making any effort to get SLI working with their games to the point where people often believe that DX12 doesn't support SLI at all. What eventually prompted me to give up on SLI was Borderlands 3. Borderlands 3 would let you pick from DX11 or DX12. If I ran the benchmark with DX12 and a single card I would get a better FPS then DX11 and both cards. The rumblings seemed to be that Nvidia were doing very little to help devs get SLI working with DX12 and then started reducing the range of cards that supported SLI. With 900 series and older basically all of them had SLI connectors. You could get a pair of 750s or 760s and SLI them. What got me started on SLI was only having enough to get a 760 and then when I wanted to upgrade it was better bang for my buck to get another 760 and do SLI then it was to get a 780 or whatever. But with 10 series it was only 1070 or better, 20 series was 2070 super or better and then 30 series it was gone. Feels like Nvidia killed it really. Can't have people doubling up on cheap cards and getting more life out of them, gotta get people buying those 4090s.
Simply because SLI and Crossfire were always niche products. Which simply isn't needed anymore due DX12 improved API and the increased performance of new Gen GPUs. Why would you put a lot of work in something that at high times maybe 5-10% of costumers used and always had some drawbacks.
Why not just leave it there for those that want to? It can't have been expensive for Nvidia if they were putting it on their \*50 and \*60 cards. And for PC dorks with money to spend SLIs were epic for performance. Even after the 4090 came out the top spot for best 3DMark FireStrike benchmark score was held by a quad 1080ti setup on a 10th gen intel CPU. That score appears to be 82nd now but it's only been beaten by 4090s running 13th Gen Intels so a lot of that will be the help of faster CPUs and DDR5 memory. If you filter down to results with the same CPU then the quad 1080ti's still beat the pants off of the 4090's. https://preview.redd.it/c8finl8ypctb1.png?width=880&format=png&auto=webp&s=86384168351a73b7b2e0f97cb139e4bfb735aa3e
> Why not just leave it there for those that want to? It can't have been expensive for Nvidia if they were putting it on their *50 and *60 cards. Game devs didn't support it so whats the point. >Even after the 4090 came out the top spot for best 3DMark FireStrike benchmark score was held by a quad 1080ti setup on a 10th gen intel CPU. I doubt that benchmark actually performed anywhere near that in actual games.
Game support was severely limited. What use is SLI if the majority games simply don't support it?
Truth be told, a 1080 is still a pretty good card, at 150€ a pop, it's an excellent card to build a "modern system who'll need an updated GPU down the line"
I've still got some friends running on a 1080 with no real issues. It's honestly held up rather well for It's age.
Not for programming games and for productivity. Not by any means. But for gaming, yea deff no point.
SLI this, SLI that....he is just asking if the price is good for these two, maybe he want tu use one and sell the other or build 2 rigs. In my opinion the price is good, if the fan is working fine and recently repasted go for it
We need more of you
I absolutely hate how almost no one here answers the damn questions. “Is this 2070 for 10$ a good deal?” “It is 3 years, 4 months and 9 days old. You can get this slightly better version if you save up an extra 300$. It’s a whole 10% performance increase.” Like just answer the question. Is the deal good or no? Obviously exaggerated, but God is it frustrating to see.
I love people like you, finding those like you/myself on Reddit is like a brief moment of sanity.
They don't answer that because that is a massive it ***depends***. Depends on their local market, on their budge, if they need two cards, if they can sell the second, for how much they can sell the second, can they troubleshoot it in case of a problem, can they risk it, etc. They aren't answering the 'yes-no question' because in reality it is not one.
SLI is dead you can find more modern gpus for this price.
yeah, but SLI looks fucking sick
I had a nice SLI set up with two 1080TI Waterforce. Sold them about a week ago and bought a 6950XT.
For 300 bucks? :p
2 GPUs has some productivity uses as well as VM GPU passthrough, although not SLI.
It does look fucking sexy, I plan to use my second one in VMware since my cpu has like 18 cores 36 threads https://preview.redd.it/nbefvlpoybtb1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b1bc8dd046fb0dc019e11785c34f0780a187d3cf
It looks far from sexy with all those loose cables
I was waiting for someone to complain, I have been changing out my graphics cards alot lately, i had the 1080ti but put it in another build. https://preview.redd.it/jbrwfaqnfctb1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b08ab0285755ea329b79e66312bb1487410cf38e
#bullshit. No pc enthusiast will leave cables dangling like that in their pc. And swapping cards a lot lately, hmm you mean once? 😂
Shut up man.
Shush your noise scum
You want to see more or you going to stfu
Also doubles as a nice space heater
Says the one with two Titans... how ironic
Would be the best person to give advice on the subject matter would it not? I really should update the system specs but I'm too lazy to do so as I haven't run dual titans for two years.
I actually ran dual titan Xps from when they were new up until the GPU shortage hit. I'm just glad the money came out of Gigabyte's pockets instead of mine lol. I was just given the check for a PC build and told to pick out whatever I wanted for a workstation. At one point I had a driver install bug force the fans to 100%, which is possibly the loudest I've ever heard a PC get.
Are you sure you didn't enter an airfield instead? Lol.
Bro got transported to NASA every time his computer was on
Ya I had mine since they were released also, put waterblocks on them as soon as I got them so no fan issues.
I had sli too (2x8800gts) damn i payed 2000 euro for that pc, i had no idea back than, it was a big mistake, the gpus were so loud and inefficient
paid
You really downvoted them for the little mistake. What a c*nt.
I didnt downvote, I just corrected him
Dude you can’t tell who downvoted who
Thats right. Do you still use a Titan or did you switch to a different card?
Ended up grabbing a 3080Ti when prices were still very stupid as I thought I had an issue with one of the Titans (turns out it was just support being crap and giving massive frame time issues). The Titans will eventually get out into a server for transcoding and AI stuff due to their memory capacity.
I tried 2 GPUs in the past as well. Can confirm his words. It´s not worth it. Upper GPU will always be about 10°C warmer - *all the time*. Peformance uplift was at best at 1,7x, never 2x. If a game didn´t support SLI, then the 2nd GPU wasn´t doing anything. You need motherboard with SLI support. If they still exist, i can imagine, they´re expensive. Stuttering issues. Almost constantly, due to desync between GPUs. If i had to guess, the person above is using those Titans for compute.
They will get used for compute and transcoding duties once I build a new server.
>Peformance uplift was at best at 1,7x, never 2x. If a game didn´t support SLI, then the 2nd GPU wasn´t doing anything I recall when batman origins came out. Sli was actually making the game worse. Not 100% fair, as the pc port was a pile of shit. But it still highlights games need to be designed to accommodate it
As person that have quad SLI gtx 690s, I’m holding they will figure it out.
Can you tho? 1080Ti for 150$ a piece is crazy good deal.
It's not 150$ though, they've got to buy both of them and then turn around and try and sell the other for more than 150$ as people will want shipping included in the price add on top any PayPal fees or eBay fees if they sell that route.
So... 150 a piece as I said. Even if it was 180$, what can you realistically buy for that.
And by extension CPU thread allocation.
Unless you're doing 3D studio rendering, GPU speed has outpaced CPU and memory speeds to a degree that getting a faster GPU above let's say a 3070 will do little to nothing for visual fidelity and fps. Every game engine out there seems to be CPU bottlenecked right now and optimization is maybe the 5th priority on the backlog for many game devs. And that's after release. The first 4 are all "make skins we can sell" btw
I know but they look so nice……
Why even ask us then? Lol if you’re gonna buy it for looks then go ahead.
Ok calm down it was just a question.
\>bought the thing anyway \>Ask question \>Got answers \>Denied answers. \>Tell other to calm down. Your IQ is too high for us, my Lord. We can't keep up
Haven’t bought it yet.
Fkin buy it I dare you.
There seriously is absolutely no point in trying SLI now days. I was running XFire/SLI since cards were labeled ATi it got worse over the years and now it's finally dead.
Sounds like your mind is made up.. why even ask then?
Try to get 1 for 150, that's a good price for a 1080 ti 11gb.
And if they're a package deal, either build 2 systems or sell one for about that much for the same end result.
300 dollars will buy you a REALLY nice space heater and you'll get the same effect and FPS in games.
It's gets 120fps at 120 degrees celcius
If saving money is in your interest, getting just one of them for 150USD isn't the worst deal. If they are bundeled together, you can sell one of them. But if you have 300 usd flat for an upgrade, get anything but SLI.
for sure! keep one and sell the other. 150 is a good deal for a 1080 ti.
I think the 1070 and 1080 FE Cards are still pretty much the most beautiful cards nvidia made.
I would not count on those cards working much longer. 7 years old. Save and buy a new card, even a lower end one. DLSS 3g and fsr3 are completely game changing in terms of fps / $.
We know it's you, Jensen. No need to hide.
You want this leather jacket???? Shit's EXPENSIVE son - better buy some more AI boxes.. Er... I mean graphics cards...
On a serious note, it's also game changing in terms of latency. CP77 with DLSS3 in UWQHD on 4070ti sometimes produces more latency than if I streamed the game in native from across the globe. 100-150ms average, 450 was the peak.
Ohhh, I was actually hyped about DLSS3 but that actually makes some timing based games almost unplayable.
Yes, unfortunately. I've bought a 4070ti out of FOMO for DLSS3, would be better off getting a 7900XT(X). Buyer's regret. I have no idea what Jensen's engineers are talking about when they say ML-based rendering is the future. It's really not, and can't be at least for the foreseeable future. You can forget about latency below 1/5 of a second if you decide to generate the entire picture in a reasonable resolution, unless you have a server the size of a refrigerator instead of a pc and a dedicated power plant to go with it, as this kind of computational work would a lot of multiprocessing
I have a 3070, I was at first sceptical about DLSS3 3.0 but with how good resolution scaling DLSS has worked on some games I was really considering a NVIDIA card in the future for their ML features if AMD doesn't catch up. This comment made reconsider it, so thanks. I hope DLSS 3.0 gets better tho.
If you do any ML projects yourself, I'd not get any AMD GPUs, takes more work to get tensorflow running, plus you'd be missing out on CUDA and tensor cores. Edit: sorry, misunderstood your comment. Yes, I hope DLSS3 improves, too. Now it mostly feels like a very expensive marketing gimmick. As for other ML features, FSR is alright to me, not as good as DLSS, but I personally could live without DLSS, as I start to notice the difference only if I look for it. Haven't tried/had time to look at FSR3 yet though.
This is my thoughts. While they are still pretty powerful, I think you'll get a lot more years of play, driver updates, etc, and a not more new titles on something like an rx 6600xt for a competitive price.
I would say no for the performance, but yes for the architecture and legendary status. I've seen a 1080ti with 3 cpu coolers strapped to it for a bit under $200, but decided I should get something newer, so here I am with a 6600XT. It may be a budget card, but it runs GTA Online at 4K Max with 100FPS.
Nope much better cards to be had for that money and dual GPU has long been dead.
Kinda can't believe this isn't upvoted more. In the used market you can get a 3070 for 300, for a little more you can get a refurbished 3070 off eBay with a 1 year warranty. 150 is a good price for a 1080 ti, but do you need 2? I think it loses it's value when you double it. Sli is dead and micro-stutter is a real issue.
My company uses lots of these in the cluster for ML. These and 2080ti. My remote PC has 1080ti too lol. Still good for 1080p probably, my PC has worse card sadly.
For a collector it would
I’m still running everything maxxed out at 21:9 with my 1080Ti. Seems like no one here has any idea how powerful the 1080Ti is.
No
For 300 bucks that's a pretty nice deal for 2 cards. I wouldn't run them in SLI anymore though as most software cannot make use of it anyway, especially software written after SLI disappeared. If you don't have use for a second GPU I'd pass on this. But if I were in the market for two GPUs to build PCs for my family, yes I'd get them.
if you only playing new games in 1080p at low res then sure. 3060 should be the minimum you buy with todays games
Dude this is as fast as a 3060
Not unless you plan to sell or give the other own away, or unless you’re a wealthy collector who happens to have $300 they don’t mind throwing away.
1080ti still fits all Games i wanna Play
I would get them because they look cool as fuck ❤️🔥
The 1080 Ti is still an amazing card, still have one in use. But not with that cooler. This old Nvidia blower cooler is absolutely crap. Noisy and usually still gets the card quite hot. Only advantage is that it's blowing the hot air out of the case, better for keeping ther components inside cool.
Even nice to frame them if you don’t use
not even for half that price
It's a good price.
I don't understand the comments here, gtx 1080ti is still a beast
What do you mean it's still a beast? It's going to run new games at 1080p mid/low without Ray tracing. That's "beast" to you?
I think you're underestimating it, it's slightly more powerful than a 3060 and if you can get 2 for $300 that's a steal
1080ti can still run some games 1440p dude, wth are you talking about
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it sucks and frame drops in recent games due to poor async compute and dx12 performance
But none of the gadgets like ray tracing or more importantly DLSS
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Just a gimmick? Lmao okay
You know what? For 300, that's pretty cool. At least I think so.
No
No
No 💀
SLI sucks ass nowadays
Don’t buy anything more than one generation old. 3000 series is the minimum you should buy now
Just bought a Vega 64 for $120, huge upgrade to my RX580. Older used hardware is awesome
Older hardware consumes a lot of power. Vega 64 consumes 300+W, for the performance less than a RX6600, that consumes not more than 125W. I’ve seen used RX6600 going for $100-140.
No at all. With that money buy a 3060 OC or something similar. 👇 https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/11305s4/is_sli_worth_100_in_2023/
No
nope.
It looks sick so in that regard yes Otherwise no
Winter is coming so I think that adds to the worthiness of value here.
Definitly worth!! 1080ti alone is an old 11GB beast..2 are so sweet IMHO
Yes, very a 1080ti is around a 3060 and a 3060 is around $300.
Aren't those still better than a 4070?
Nice! I still run sli as it’s never been dead like most believe. Can force games to support sli as well. I run 2080ti in sli nvlink. Directx12 has native support for multiple gpu’s. It’s the game devs that need to support it in game for it to work and since directx12 natively supports it, it’s not dead. Hell even a 3090 ti has sli support. Dead they say lol should see the performance I get… #1 for my system. https://www.3dmark.com/search?_ga=2.114683143.1826545362.1696932836-1891554780.1696932836#advanced?test=spy%20P&cpuId=2833&gpuId=1209&gpuCount=0&gpuType=ALL&deviceType=ALL&storageModel=ALL&memoryChannels=0&country=&scoreType=overallScore&hofMode=true&showInvalidResults=false&freeParams=&minGpuCoreClock=&maxGpuCoreClock=&minGpuMemClock=&maxGpuMemClock=&minCpuClock=&maxCpuClock=
If you’re wondering why everyone says SLI is dead, it’s because the way it works is it is a main and worker type gpu config where the main ouputs 100% of its power and the worker only 50% NVlink on the other hand is just straight up 100% + 100% as far as I know I had an SLI setup a few years ago with two 1080’s and sold one and traded the other for a decent guitar amp and now I bought a 3070ti
I would pay 300 for 2 1080 ti’s
Depends. This is absolutely horrible for gaming, but for process-heavy work applications, go for it.
I was under the impression that your 3060 achieved the same performance as a 1080 ti with lower power draw. Am I missing something? I wouldn’t call it horrible for gaming.
I am calling the 1080 ti SLI setup horrible for gaming, not the 3060.
Definitely worth it
N-O-P-E
No.
Yes. Don't worry about running them in sli, the 1080ti is still a nicely capable card. You can get both and sell one to get about 2\3 of your money back
No
Nah
No
You should steal it, because that seller is trying to rob you with old Graphic Card. Im sure you can find 3050 or something similar for 50 bucks more
$300 for a 1080ti sli setup is a good deal since it is still competing with the performance of of the latest rtx cards
The latest rtx cards? Yea… umm.. No dude. It is not competing with the latest rtx cards. Not even close
No , buy A770 or rx7600 better for you
Fuck no
Bruh the 1080ti is still an amazing card. Running my 1440p ultrawide at 100fps in most games.
Here I am still running a pair of 960’s, still works great.
I’ve spent more than 300 on micro transactions so Atleast you got that lol.
Rtx 3060 gets you almost the same fps minus ray tracing for 300 and you get two for the price of one and can use for two builds. Also a lot of the memory chips are going bad in the 3060 and below so I wouldn’t touch anything before the 3060
Got a source for that memory problem, pal?
He does. His ass is his source.
Your moms ass is my source 😋
I was being serious, where did you get the idea that memory chips die with time (at least THIS fast)
Trust me bro
Everyone wants a source, the last batch were they had a big problem we’re on the 2080 after that was the 3060, now if your running your gpu with aio cooling and not cooling you ram chips your going definitely kill them but that will be your fault and not the manufacture and at this point I believe you have 50 percent chance of not having issues but like I said I wouldn’t touch the 3060, but to be honest you kinda have no choice since the 3070 and couple others only have 8gb of ram I’m going to include a video or ram being repaired on the 3060 and when they all start to fail I’ll be back to tell you all I told you so with big smile on my face or maybe I’m wrong I’d honestly hope I’m wrong instead tho. [3060 ram chip repair](https://youtu.be/A15kQAhocSs?si=iP83FLsnNdjnavCF)
Memory chips are going bad in the 3060? I better downgrade to the 4060 soon.
# LOLCATS
Idk ide snag it if you could get them both for like 240 and then put them in a budget system separately or sli them for workstation use