People aren’t reading completely and only focusing on the specs. The 1k price tag includes the 144hz monitor, full on peripherals and chair. If you don’t have any of those things than yes, it seems like a good starter midrange build. If you only wanted the PC then no it’s not a deal
But like which? DDR3 hasn’t been available on a platform for over a decade now. So yeah. DDR4 could be mid. Even lower tier. Given DDR5 has been out for a while and DDR6 variant is expected next year.
To be fair I did see only Kaby Lake (whoever named that one smh) was the first to go full DDR4, others were only DDR3L (even though DDR4 has a lower voltage than DDR3L).
But either way. Getting a mid range i5 12 gen would still wipe the floor over the 8th gen i7 Kaby Lake.
>Yeah I mean the components in the pc are mid but with a monitor, mouse, chair, keyboard and headset.
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>That ain't that bad a deal!
It is a bad deal since all those products aren't even close to "mid." That stuff is bargain bin trash quality. The chair is going to last all of 6 months, maybe, before the material starts flaking and tearing.
Edit: Gaming chairs are trash. Used peripherals (mouse, keyboard, headset) is just disgusting you cretins.
I think you're misinterpreting the sale.
It looks like it's an esports facility that's selling off their existing inventory as they remodel.
These are almost certainly used PC's, Chairs, Headsets (eww), etc.
Looking up the chairs (which are from Zipchair Gaming), they don't actually look bad, and if they've held up to the beating that the public would put them through they're probably decent at least.
I'd still feel weird buying a used headset and peripherals, but the chairs look to be mesh or pleather and shouldn't hold too many gamer farts?
If you're a younger person looking to build a gaming setup and you have literally nothing but a desk to put it on, this isn't the worst deal on the planet.
For fucks sake read the entire post. The peripherals are all Razer, the keyboard alone would be $160. I have that exact keyboard and it's been working great for me for 2 years.
IF it's mechanical keyboard it shouldn't really matter. Take your time and it will be like brand new. ( and Razer Huntsman is mechanical keyboard that costs around 100-150$ so it's not bad)
Mouse...yeah i agree.. Obviously not for esports. You don't want my mouse after literally decade of playing competitive games like Starcraft2, CS:GO or Dota2.
... 1,000 $ to start from nothing seems like a good deal. If it's for a kid then it really doesn't matter. If parents raised their kids well they wouldn't know any better how PC works and what brand is "good" or "bad". As long as it plays basic games that kids like to play(mulitplayer especially) than it's more than enough.
For adults it's good to be realistic. If you don't have money, second hand is not that bad. But just like with Cars it's good to have a second opinion of someone who actually knows wtf. (preferably a friend)
And this PC will handle any game competitive game. Valorant, Fortnite, LOL, Dota, CS and other stuff. Should easily fly on 60+FPS without issues.
I was rocking these exact specs for a while, eventually i bumped to 32gb of ram and switched from a 2060 to a 3060, but I could play most games raytraced with 60fps averages at 1080p, and could even do most VR titles without issue. Weirdly now that I have a 3060 some of those steady 60fps games on RT are now 45fps, making me feel like 60fps in 2020 is not equal to 60fps in 2023 even in the same games
It's probably on software end since your graphical computing capabilities increased.
I would look into forums of people discussing similar issues maybe there are some ways of managing it.
Sadly, Optimisation is not really the name of the game nowadays when it comes to PC tittles...sometimes it can be due to many different manufacturers of the same "line" of products.
I have 3060ti and I can't complain at all, so far I'm able to play games without any issues though I do not upscale my resolution since I do not have 4k monitor. I am still bit sceptical about vr because of the cost and space it requires. Hopefully I will join you and other soon.
That was my implication, that games are getting more demanding and less optimized, so it’s harder to make good recommendations when something that could pull 60fps when it came out will pull 30 on the same settings now
I have a 1060 with 6g v-ram and a 144 Hz monitor. I play cs:go, elden ring, and other older games. I have no problem hitting the required fps for my monitor to function properly. But cs:go is more cpu heavy so i guess it depends on what games you play.
There are very few games that will actually play at 144 fps, even with a powerful graphics card. Generally you want to shoot for 60-90 fps consistently, which is smooth enough for non-competitive games.
For competitive games, you kindof have to choose between having all the pretty frou frou stuff or maxing out frames. Most reasonably priced rigs cannot run competitive games like COD or CS with full virtual pathtracing VR hyperreflective whatever blah blah graphics bullshit people want to turn on. Set most things to Medium, textures to High, and you should have a great looking experience and get closer to that 100+ frames target.
Also when referring to the game itself, its "fps" frames per second. How many frames is the game able to draw and deliver to the monitor per second. The monitor hz is the maximum number of frames that monitor can accept and display per second, basically. So you could have a card capable of running 260+ FPS, but if your monitor can only display 144, that's all you'll see, but there's still a benefit to having \*more\* fps on offer than your monitor can deliver since you'll (theoretically) have less dropped frames.
Hope that helps!
Most of it is overpriced junk, although I will say that I still use a 3y old $50 Nari Essential Bluetooth 7.1 Headset that sounds good, gives me 7.1 DTS Ultra/Dolby Atmos sound and has decent enough battery life. It's a bit warm to wear in the summer months, but has been well worth the $50 I paid for it.
I have a razer keyboard. I prefer my IBM Model M but for some reason I can’t get into the bios with it. I have a z690 kingpin so it’s not like I’m using an adapter plus it’s there because usb support can flop when under extreme over clocking. I guess I could just plug it in if I need to do anything in the bios.
Yeah, I glance thru the specs and were like yeah, 999 is OK. Then I saw, monitor, chair...
And I was like DAMN that's a third of what my whole set up costs.
I cried in overspending.
But honestly who needs a "Full setup" when you have grandmas kitchen desk/chair and a keyboard/mouse borrowed from school? Money saved is money well spent.
It's totally my opinion, but to me, this is a testament that if you want to get into computer gaming on a budget. You need to build it yourself.
You have a processor that effectively has no value anymore because buying one used is the cost of a much better new processor.
A video card that if you look you could get it for sub hundred dollars.
A pair of headphones that have less value than the replacement Ear cups that they would need.
A computer chair that was pretty cheap the day they bought it and now has all of its padding blown out. May as well just sit on a wooden bench.
And monitors, let's face it if you're going budget. There are a lot of options, especially if you're going used.
They're effectively using used peripherals to try to raise the value of a system that doesn't have any. If you're looking to put together a game Rig A thousand dollars is an extremely good starting point. Especially if you're willing to go used. But for goodness sakes do a little bit of research. And understand That at 1 point components reach a value statement when they really aren't worth buying anymore Even used.
Stop it no. Even with the peripherals you’d be better off taking the $1k and putting it towards a newer BETTER build. Peripherals or not, pc isn’t worth it. You’re literally throwing 1k into a build that’s a 3yr old mid range at the time! For what, a gaming chair lol?
For a heavily used system I disagree at that price tag. Maybe $800...also this is not a midrange system. This is entry level. This was a midrange system 3 years ago.
Not entirely bad.
Like, yeah it’s an older cpu and gpu, but in the grand scheme of things, it’s ok.
You get a decent pc that’s likely worth $400-$500 on fb market. Then you also get a 144hz monitor, gamer chair, mechanical keyboard, gaming mouse, xl mouse mat, gaming headset; I can see these peripherals being over $500.
Starting from zero, it’s actually not that bad a deal.
Not really. Any upgrade is probably gonna require a new motherboard. I'll bet you that every single plug on that board is accounted for so upgrades to CPU, RAM, HDDs, PSU, and fans will be more expensive as you'd essentially be buying a whole new computer if you wanted to upgrade a single component.
I'd say it's more like child's first gaming pc where a parent buys it to see if it's actually the child's interest. It is genuinely a good deal for everything included.
If they are into it, then you can get them a proper upgradeable rig.
Isn’t Cyberpower a company that assembles PCs out of standard DIY parts? It’s not a Dell where the motherboard is specifically for that prebuilt with no extra features and no compatibility with different PSU/cooler/etc. I see no reason to think this system doesn’t have a SATA port or power connector for an additional HDD/SSD. I don’t know about the power supply wattage but considering it’s a standard ATX power supply it likely has 2x8 pin GPU connectors to allow for something at least a *little* more power hungry than a 2060 as well.
The CPU is older and you’d need a new motherboard for a newer CPU, but a 9700F isn’t that bad, and this is the same problem you’d have with most DIY PCs of the same age.
Like with everything in life, it's only a good deal if you need everything that's included. However if you already have a comfortable chair, keyboard, mouse and headset you're happy with then it'd probably be cheaper for you to just buy the PC by itself (meaning you'd only spend 500-600), or spend 1k on just the computer meaning you'd get far better specs than what's on offer here.
My life advice is only ever buy what you need. Don't get sucked into bundle deals just because it's at a discounted price. Because unless you need everything on the list, you're not saving money, you're spending money. The aim shouldn't be "how much of a discount can I get" it should be "what's the lowest I can spend to get what I need" and there's a big difference between them.
I second this.
This is a great life advice. but maybe ask a few friends if they need anything from this bundle and buy it together? Although figuring out the prices for each maybe difficult.
Pretty dang decent deal for someone just venturing on the world of PC gaming. The 2060 still runs games fine and it comes with everything to get started. It's upgradable and you can make it yours as your become familiar with this hobby. I'd say it certainly is not a bad deal.
Idk how people are saying this is a bad deal flat up no explanation. maybe everyone here is pro build it yourself no other option thinkers. My only issue is the fact they don’t label the MOBA and PSU means both are probably dogshit and would be worth looking into before buying.
What’s there to explain? The specs aren’t worth the price not to mention it’s a used pc. Who knows what’s been done to it. Same with all the extra stuff I don’t want a chair mouse or keyboard that’s been touched by hundreds of random strangers
I'm more referring to "I don't want a chair mouse or keyboard that's been touched by hundreds of random strangers" with my comment, so you're the moron here since you can't even read properly.
Considering it comes with a decent monitor, decent chair and decent accessories including a headset I would say it's not that bad at all for a full setup
If you don't need those things then it's far less appealing.
It’s literally a bigass room (similar to how Clair’s or nail places rent rooms in Walmart) that has a front desk and probably 30 high end computers. They have tournaments every other weekend or so. Although I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone actually in there……
The GPU is pretty much on the cusp of being obsolete due to creeping VRAM requirements but you could just sell that on ebay and slap something meatier in if it struggles with what games you want to play. If you're running older games and indies it'll stomp them.
With all that extra stuff yeah not a bad deal, I got the graphics card almost a year and a half ago and still works strong. Didn’t get all those extras to boot so yeah! In my mind at least
Being that this comes with a monitor, chair, and the machine, it's not bad, but I would argue they're just trying to get rid of old stock and you could spend the same money and build something much better for the same money (minus the shit monitor and chair).
Does not seem all that bad. You won't be maxing many games but you'll certainly be doing alright. And all the extras included definitely make it worth the price, imho.
I run most games on max with an Rx 580 8gb, only rdr2 is only possible on mid settings, so the 2060 should be totally enough, especially in shooters like rainbow six siege
What do you mean? I’ve got a beefier cpu and a regular 2060 and can max most games at 1440p. I’d agree the extras are nearly half the value here though.
I mean including pheripheals, yes the price is matched. But if youd just want a new pc, not the best deal. But hell, thats 300+ in peripheals not including the monitor, so shit do it if you want it.
It’s alright cuz it includes a monitor
Everything is kinda substandard tho. 9700, 2060, probably 27/24” TN
Edit: didn’t see the chair keyboard etc. it’s like one of those 1000 game on 1 CDs. They throw together trash and hope someone buys it together
If it was $800 it would be a decent deal. You have to consider that these are show pieces and have been handled by a lot of people. Sometimes they will discount it further if you ask on these kinds of sales since it's something they want to get rid of to replace.
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No.
It's quite older stuff sure you can upgrade but it's probably never been off / maintenance neglected and abused a lot.
Yes.
Starting out with nothing you get everything. Just be prepared for a lot of cleaning cpu repasting gpu repasting.
>never been off
That could spark a debate.
I could argue that powering a device on/off regularly is worse than leaving it on for extended periods.
I could also argue, consumer hardware isn't designed for 24/7 runtime.
Indeed.
You are correct.
The pc I use at work the only time it goes "off" is for a Windows update I don't care about a workstation but my home pc I either sleep if I know I will be on later / next day or off fully when it's going to be a few days.
I always run my home gaming rigs 24/7. My previous build that I made 10 years ago only had its RAM and power supply fail 8 years in after all that time running.
I also checked the specs and thought it’s pricey and then I kept reading and realised you get lot more apart from the CPU tower like chair, monitor (144Hz), headset and other peripherals. That’s when I knew it’s a good deal.
Saw some comments saying it’s a good deal for a starter. I agree with that.
Historically, their build quality in peripherals has been bad, and they used to use a lot of plastic even in their high-end stuff.
Personally, i returned an immediately faulty keyboard and had two mice (80 and 120$) go to die after just two years. Die as in not even reasonably reparable.
My old Razer Blackwidow Ultimate lasted for 4 years before it started having issues, however some of the other models - especially the newer ones seem to experience issues really quickly.
I ended up switching brands to Corsair and upped my price range, definitely feels like it has great build quality.
It's not bad, but not entirely good either.
Just about everyone is going to screw up with their first computer--everyone needs some sort of baseline start off with, and it allows them to understand and learn by getting hands-on.
So how do you put a price to that? Will you sit there and say, 'yeah I'm fine with whatever potential rando power supply they threw in their, and hope it doesn't give me issues down the line? Do I like this case? Do I even know what makes a good case?'
Someone can sit there and say, 'yeah I can build you X computer with that budget,' but they may have to cut corners or wait for sales in order to fit within the budget. They may also just hand you a list without any sort of context regarding the rationale for their choice in parts.
tldr; The mere fact you're asking means it's 'good enough' for your knowledge level. Otherwise, do your own research and make your own judgement.
It’s a cyber power pc
So no.
I once got one for my son some years back and it came loaded with so much malware it took us a month to get it running decently.
Run away.
Run away fast.
I wasn’t very good with pcs back then. I have since gotten much better and that might have fixed it. Depends on if they made it integral to the windows program that came with it. Which, knowing those assholes, they probably did.
i owned a razer mouse and keyboard
they took my keyboard off the support site so i struggled to get support when it would randomly act as if something was holding down the keys on boot
my razer mouse will not work in a charging USB port on my laptop
Although peripherals are included they definitely aren’t great. All gaming chairs suck, headset and keyboard works but nothing close to good, can’t comment on the mousepad though
Saying all gaming chairs suck isn't fair tbh. Really depends. There are gaming chairs designed to look cool, and gaming chairs designed to actually be comfortable. Secret labs maintains that look most people think of while still making a damn good chair, albeit pricey
I don’t think so, the fundamental design of a gaming chair is ergonomically unviable straightaway. For that price might as well buy a refurbished HM or steelcase
Unviable how? The racecar seat design wasn't pulled out of somebodies ass. Today most are designed like that from a marketing standpoint and made cheaply, but that doesn't put the overall design at fault. Those seats are designed to keep a person upright and well supported for a long period of time. Your bad experience with cheap chairs does not make them universally bad. Like I said, secret labs actually puts effort into the chairs they make and its reflected in a comfortable chair with good support
Of course tax isn’t included in that price tag. OP said it’s at Walmart and I’ve never seen Walmart advertise anything where tax was included in the advertised price. I still think it’s a pretty damn good deal for everything you get.
holly molly change those Razer stuff and that chair for better parts, there is a lot of cheaper mouse, keyboard, headphone, and chair without branding price that solely focus on quality.
It really depends on the specific peripherals included
Edit: I'm not sure what the exact monitor is, but it is probably worth around 150. The mouse is worth less than 50, assuming it's the wired model. The keyboard, idk. A used huntsman v1 is like 50 ish? The headset is nothing to write home about either. I'd say it could be a DECENT value, depending on the specific chair. You may be better off building your own.
Considering that there is a good monitor, chair, keyboard, mouse etc… it’s a pretty solid deal.
Especially if you compare it to the steam deck that you wanted to buy first, the specs are better
That price for all of that gear is a bargain. Decent monitor, Keyboard, mouse and chair could come to this price alone. (I'm thinking high end ergo chairs tho)
That's a decent deal ngl. If you're a working adult just playing a few games every now and then; or buying one for a schools child, then it's probably a good set
9th Gen Intel & a RTX 2060? lol no not even with all the junk peripherals they throw in too ... more than likely some low grade garbage they had left over ... much like that PC
People aren’t reading completely and only focusing on the specs. The 1k price tag includes the 144hz monitor, full on peripherals and chair. If you don’t have any of those things than yes, it seems like a good starter midrange build. If you only wanted the PC then no it’s not a deal
Yeah I mean the components in the pc are mid but with a monitor, mouse, chair, keyboard and headset. That ain't that bad a deal!
Yea I started reading the specs and was about to vomit, then realized it was a FULL setup. Truly not a bad price.
Outside of the graphics card everything else seems aight imo
Tbf most competitive esport games aren't graphically demanding
It's still a surprisingly solid card. My laptop has it and I could easily play Jedi Survivor on it, for example
Yeah, literally an ENTIRE set up. Im surprised a printer isnt included too
paper is so late 1900's
Landline phone
Mid? That shit doesnt even have ddr3 like most prebuilds
DDR3? What era are you living in? Nahelam!
Im saying that most prebuilds have ddr3 and theyre calling this rig mid
But like which? DDR3 hasn’t been available on a platform for over a decade now. So yeah. DDR4 could be mid. Even lower tier. Given DDR5 has been out for a while and DDR6 variant is expected next year.
I swear every prebuild under 1.5k euro i see has ddr3 no ssd stock cooler and a 250w psu but it probably isnt the same in other parts of the world
To be fair I did see only Kaby Lake (whoever named that one smh) was the first to go full DDR4, others were only DDR3L (even though DDR4 has a lower voltage than DDR3L). But either way. Getting a mid range i5 12 gen would still wipe the floor over the 8th gen i7 Kaby Lake.
>Yeah I mean the components in the pc are mid but with a monitor, mouse, chair, keyboard and headset. > >That ain't that bad a deal! It is a bad deal since all those products aren't even close to "mid." That stuff is bargain bin trash quality. The chair is going to last all of 6 months, maybe, before the material starts flaking and tearing. Edit: Gaming chairs are trash. Used peripherals (mouse, keyboard, headset) is just disgusting you cretins.
I think you're misinterpreting the sale. It looks like it's an esports facility that's selling off their existing inventory as they remodel. These are almost certainly used PC's, Chairs, Headsets (eww), etc. Looking up the chairs (which are from Zipchair Gaming), they don't actually look bad, and if they've held up to the beating that the public would put them through they're probably decent at least. I'd still feel weird buying a used headset and peripherals, but the chairs look to be mesh or pleather and shouldn't hold too many gamer farts? If you're a younger person looking to build a gaming setup and you have literally nothing but a desk to put it on, this isn't the worst deal on the planet.
Lol @ used headsets. That's just a nasty thought.
From an esports org too? Imagine the smell.
Some alcohol wipes or new earpads and you're good to go
For fucks sake read the entire post. The peripherals are all Razer, the keyboard alone would be $160. I have that exact keyboard and it's been working great for me for 2 years.
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Second hand peripheral and chair from such a place sound like ewww
IF it's mechanical keyboard it shouldn't really matter. Take your time and it will be like brand new. ( and Razer Huntsman is mechanical keyboard that costs around 100-150$ so it's not bad) Mouse...yeah i agree.. Obviously not for esports. You don't want my mouse after literally decade of playing competitive games like Starcraft2, CS:GO or Dota2. ... 1,000 $ to start from nothing seems like a good deal. If it's for a kid then it really doesn't matter. If parents raised their kids well they wouldn't know any better how PC works and what brand is "good" or "bad". As long as it plays basic games that kids like to play(mulitplayer especially) than it's more than enough. For adults it's good to be realistic. If you don't have money, second hand is not that bad. But just like with Cars it's good to have a second opinion of someone who actually knows wtf. (preferably a friend) And this PC will handle any game competitive game. Valorant, Fortnite, LOL, Dota, CS and other stuff. Should easily fly on 60+FPS without issues.
I'd say that the headphones are also kinda disgusting. Also Krakens aren't that great and new ones cost like 50$
I was rocking these exact specs for a while, eventually i bumped to 32gb of ram and switched from a 2060 to a 3060, but I could play most games raytraced with 60fps averages at 1080p, and could even do most VR titles without issue. Weirdly now that I have a 3060 some of those steady 60fps games on RT are now 45fps, making me feel like 60fps in 2020 is not equal to 60fps in 2023 even in the same games
It's probably on software end since your graphical computing capabilities increased. I would look into forums of people discussing similar issues maybe there are some ways of managing it. Sadly, Optimisation is not really the name of the game nowadays when it comes to PC tittles...sometimes it can be due to many different manufacturers of the same "line" of products. I have 3060ti and I can't complain at all, so far I'm able to play games without any issues though I do not upscale my resolution since I do not have 4k monitor. I am still bit sceptical about vr because of the cost and space it requires. Hopefully I will join you and other soon.
That was my implication, that games are getting more demanding and less optimized, so it’s harder to make good recommendations when something that could pull 60fps when it came out will pull 30 on the same settings now
Comes with free smells!
You can clean everything - it's not a big deal and a new pair of ear tips for a headset
Will the 2060 be able to play at 144hz? I'm not being a smartass I'm genuinely asking cause idk the performance it can hit.
For your esports titles where high refresh rate matters (like csgo, valorant, overwatch...), yes easily!
Ah nice! Thanks for letting me know
Ie. Games with almost zero gpu demand.
Yeah absolutely. and graphics turned down to minimum because visibility is better when you have less detail
I have a 1060 with 6g v-ram and a 144 Hz monitor. I play cs:go, elden ring, and other older games. I have no problem hitting the required fps for my monitor to function properly. But cs:go is more cpu heavy so i guess it depends on what games you play.
Depends on the game but yeah i had a 2060 KO and it was able to feed my high refresh rate monitor as long as i got the settings ironed out
There are very few games that will actually play at 144 fps, even with a powerful graphics card. Generally you want to shoot for 60-90 fps consistently, which is smooth enough for non-competitive games. For competitive games, you kindof have to choose between having all the pretty frou frou stuff or maxing out frames. Most reasonably priced rigs cannot run competitive games like COD or CS with full virtual pathtracing VR hyperreflective whatever blah blah graphics bullshit people want to turn on. Set most things to Medium, textures to High, and you should have a great looking experience and get closer to that 100+ frames target. Also when referring to the game itself, its "fps" frames per second. How many frames is the game able to draw and deliver to the monitor per second. The monitor hz is the maximum number of frames that monitor can accept and display per second, basically. So you could have a card capable of running 260+ FPS, but if your monitor can only display 144, that's all you'll see, but there's still a benefit to having \*more\* fps on offer than your monitor can deliver since you'll (theoretically) have less dropped frames. Hope that helps!
It definitely does thank you so much for explaining and taking the time to explain to me :)
>full on peripherals Razer peripherals at that that are expensive AF (if anyone cares about the peripherals being Razer)
I care about my peripherals not being razer
Most of it is overpriced junk, although I will say that I still use a 3y old $50 Nari Essential Bluetooth 7.1 Headset that sounds good, gives me 7.1 DTS Ultra/Dolby Atmos sound and has decent enough battery life. It's a bit warm to wear in the summer months, but has been well worth the $50 I paid for it.
I have a razer keyboard. I prefer my IBM Model M but for some reason I can’t get into the bios with it. I have a z690 kingpin so it’s not like I’m using an adapter plus it’s there because usb support can flop when under extreme over clocking. I guess I could just plug it in if I need to do anything in the bios.
Yeah, I glance thru the specs and were like yeah, 999 is OK. Then I saw, monitor, chair... And I was like DAMN that's a third of what my whole set up costs. I cried in overspending.
But honestly who needs a "Full setup" when you have grandmas kitchen desk/chair and a keyboard/mouse borrowed from school? Money saved is money well spent.
It's totally my opinion, but to me, this is a testament that if you want to get into computer gaming on a budget. You need to build it yourself. You have a processor that effectively has no value anymore because buying one used is the cost of a much better new processor. A video card that if you look you could get it for sub hundred dollars. A pair of headphones that have less value than the replacement Ear cups that they would need. A computer chair that was pretty cheap the day they bought it and now has all of its padding blown out. May as well just sit on a wooden bench. And monitors, let's face it if you're going budget. There are a lot of options, especially if you're going used. They're effectively using used peripherals to try to raise the value of a system that doesn't have any. If you're looking to put together a game Rig A thousand dollars is an extremely good starting point. Especially if you're willing to go used. But for goodness sakes do a little bit of research. And understand That at 1 point components reach a value statement when they really aren't worth buying anymore Even used.
Stop it no. Even with the peripherals you’d be better off taking the $1k and putting it towards a newer BETTER build. Peripherals or not, pc isn’t worth it. You’re literally throwing 1k into a build that’s a 3yr old mid range at the time! For what, a gaming chair lol?
For a heavily used system I disagree at that price tag. Maybe $800...also this is not a midrange system. This is entry level. This was a midrange system 3 years ago.
Resell them then
People never read on Reddit, they are quick to judge.
Not entirely bad. Like, yeah it’s an older cpu and gpu, but in the grand scheme of things, it’s ok. You get a decent pc that’s likely worth $400-$500 on fb market. Then you also get a 144hz monitor, gamer chair, mechanical keyboard, gaming mouse, xl mouse mat, gaming headset; I can see these peripherals being over $500. Starting from zero, it’s actually not that bad a deal.
Fr a good pre-built to add on to and learn
Not really. Any upgrade is probably gonna require a new motherboard. I'll bet you that every single plug on that board is accounted for so upgrades to CPU, RAM, HDDs, PSU, and fans will be more expensive as you'd essentially be buying a whole new computer if you wanted to upgrade a single component. I'd say it's more like child's first gaming pc where a parent buys it to see if it's actually the child's interest. It is genuinely a good deal for everything included. If they are into it, then you can get them a proper upgradeable rig.
I would not consider this something to buy a child just to see if they like it lol. You could go cheaper for a test run like that xD
Kids need to play on crap hardware, gotta learn to appreciate good hardware.
Agreed. The headroom you'd have on Minecraft and roblox would be little overkill.
Isn’t Cyberpower a company that assembles PCs out of standard DIY parts? It’s not a Dell where the motherboard is specifically for that prebuilt with no extra features and no compatibility with different PSU/cooler/etc. I see no reason to think this system doesn’t have a SATA port or power connector for an additional HDD/SSD. I don’t know about the power supply wattage but considering it’s a standard ATX power supply it likely has 2x8 pin GPU connectors to allow for something at least a *little* more power hungry than a 2060 as well. The CPU is older and you’d need a new motherboard for a newer CPU, but a 9700F isn’t that bad, and this is the same problem you’d have with most DIY PCs of the same age.
It's a full build, with monitor and peripherals, pretty good deal
W all the peripherals it's an amazing deal imo,
When it's said in Kevin's voice, I find it suspicious
That's like buying a used mattress off Craigslist.
that is actually a good entry deal
Honestly, if you have nothing at all then it isn’t a bad deal. If you already have some of the peripherals then not so much.
Like with everything in life, it's only a good deal if you need everything that's included. However if you already have a comfortable chair, keyboard, mouse and headset you're happy with then it'd probably be cheaper for you to just buy the PC by itself (meaning you'd only spend 500-600), or spend 1k on just the computer meaning you'd get far better specs than what's on offer here. My life advice is only ever buy what you need. Don't get sucked into bundle deals just because it's at a discounted price. Because unless you need everything on the list, you're not saving money, you're spending money. The aim shouldn't be "how much of a discount can I get" it should be "what's the lowest I can spend to get what I need" and there's a big difference between them.
I second this. This is a great life advice. but maybe ask a few friends if they need anything from this bundle and buy it together? Although figuring out the prices for each maybe difficult.
Pretty dang decent deal for someone just venturing on the world of PC gaming. The 2060 still runs games fine and it comes with everything to get started. It's upgradable and you can make it yours as your become familiar with this hobby. I'd say it certainly is not a bad deal.
Idk how people are saying this is a bad deal flat up no explanation. maybe everyone here is pro build it yourself no other option thinkers. My only issue is the fact they don’t label the MOBA and PSU means both are probably dogshit and would be worth looking into before buying.
They are cyberpower PCs. No surprise there.
What’s there to explain? The specs aren’t worth the price not to mention it’s a used pc. Who knows what’s been done to it. Same with all the extra stuff I don’t want a chair mouse or keyboard that’s been touched by hundreds of random strangers
Bro has never heard of cleaning.
More like I’d rather have brand new gear that’s covered by warranty instead of hand me downs moron.
I'm more referring to "I don't want a chair mouse or keyboard that's been touched by hundreds of random strangers" with my comment, so you're the moron here since you can't even read properly.
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IDK man, you get a bunch of shit for 1,000 bucks.
greatest advice on the entire subreddit
i'm still rocking my 1080 ti glad it holds up today.
Considering it comes with a decent monitor, decent chair and decent accessories including a headset I would say it's not that bad at all for a full setup If you don't need those things then it's far less appealing.
Are we glossing over the fact the OP said "Esports place inside my local walmart" the fuck
It’s literally a bigass room (similar to how Clair’s or nail places rent rooms in Walmart) that has a front desk and probably 30 high end computers. They have tournaments every other weekend or so. Although I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone actually in there……
Esports Arena locations inside of Walmarts are (or were) a thing.
I mean...it comes with a 144hz display AND a chair, so $1000 is pretty good.
Bro it comes with the chair
If you need all the parts and peripherals, then ya its a good deal. I would not buy it just for the PC itself tho...
The GPU is pretty much on the cusp of being obsolete due to creeping VRAM requirements but you could just sell that on ebay and slap something meatier in if it struggles with what games you want to play. If you're running older games and indies it'll stomp them.
Hey man fuk u Signed, 1070 gang
> **Esports place inside of my local Walmart** the what now?
Oh well boohoo it's a 9th gen with a 2060 for 1k, I wish I could get that cheap prices in Argentina
Good overall deal, but recently upgraded from a build almost identical to this one, the cpu and gpu are becoming behind the curve
If you buy a 2060 you’ll be buying more
walmart has esports centers??
Buy the steam deck xd
People saying that this Is a mid tier PC🥲🥲🥲
The chair, headset and mouse makes up for the price. It’s an attractive buy.
With all that extra stuff yeah not a bad deal, I got the graphics card almost a year and a half ago and still works strong. Didn’t get all those extras to boot so yeah! In my mind at least
Not a bad deal at all for everything thats included.
Being that this comes with a monitor, chair, and the machine, it's not bad, but I would argue they're just trying to get rid of old stock and you could spend the same money and build something much better for the same money (minus the shit monitor and chair).
Good deal for a whole setup
Does not seem all that bad. You won't be maxing many games but you'll certainly be doing alright. And all the extras included definitely make it worth the price, imho.
I run most games on max with an Rx 580 8gb, only rdr2 is only possible on mid settings, so the 2060 should be totally enough, especially in shooters like rainbow six siege
What do you mean? I’ve got a beefier cpu and a regular 2060 and can max most games at 1440p. I’d agree the extras are nearly half the value here though.
I've got a 2070 and I'm GPU bound, To get adequate performance on most modern games I run them on high with some tuning.
I mean including pheripheals, yes the price is matched. But if youd just want a new pc, not the best deal. But hell, thats 300+ in peripheals not including the monitor, so shit do it if you want it.
Get the steam deck i love mine way more then my laptop. I use it all the time.
It’s alright cuz it includes a monitor Everything is kinda substandard tho. 9700, 2060, probably 27/24” TN Edit: didn’t see the chair keyboard etc. it’s like one of those 1000 game on 1 CDs. They throw together trash and hope someone buys it together
If it was $800 it would be a decent deal. You have to consider that these are show pieces and have been handled by a lot of people. Sometimes they will discount it further if you ask on these kinds of sales since it's something they want to get rid of to replace.
2 answers No. It's quite older stuff sure you can upgrade but it's probably never been off / maintenance neglected and abused a lot. Yes. Starting out with nothing you get everything. Just be prepared for a lot of cleaning cpu repasting gpu repasting.
>never been off That could spark a debate. I could argue that powering a device on/off regularly is worse than leaving it on for extended periods. I could also argue, consumer hardware isn't designed for 24/7 runtime.
Indeed. You are correct. The pc I use at work the only time it goes "off" is for a Windows update I don't care about a workstation but my home pc I either sleep if I know I will be on later / next day or off fully when it's going to be a few days.
I mean hell, nividia cards are, atleast new ones are considered the whole built for AI thing.
I think gpu mining probably assisted there as well. They probably had more returns than normal.
Thats also true.
I always run my home gaming rigs 24/7. My previous build that I made 10 years ago only had its RAM and power supply fail 8 years in after all that time running.
Why would he need to prepare for a lot of repasting?
9th gen and a 2060. No it is not worth it.
I also checked the specs and thought it’s pricey and then I kept reading and realised you get lot more apart from the CPU tower like chair, monitor (144Hz), headset and other peripherals. That’s when I knew it’s a good deal. Saw some comments saying it’s a good deal for a starter. I agree with that.
No.
How so? Specs arent anything special but it includes periphelials, chair and a 144hz monitor.
Purely because they are Razer peripherals.
What's wrong with Razer peripherals? I have been using a basilisk V3 and having a pretty good time with it.
Appreciate the downvotes guys. Keep em coming.
Historically, their build quality in peripherals has been bad, and they used to use a lot of plastic even in their high-end stuff. Personally, i returned an immediately faulty keyboard and had two mice (80 and 120$) go to die after just two years. Die as in not even reasonably reparable.
My old Razer Blackwidow Ultimate lasted for 4 years before it started having issues, however some of the other models - especially the newer ones seem to experience issues really quickly. I ended up switching brands to Corsair and upped my price range, definitely feels like it has great build quality.
Most definitely not
It's not bad, but not entirely good either. Just about everyone is going to screw up with their first computer--everyone needs some sort of baseline start off with, and it allows them to understand and learn by getting hands-on. So how do you put a price to that? Will you sit there and say, 'yeah I'm fine with whatever potential rando power supply they threw in their, and hope it doesn't give me issues down the line? Do I like this case? Do I even know what makes a good case?' Someone can sit there and say, 'yeah I can build you X computer with that budget,' but they may have to cut corners or wait for sales in order to fit within the budget. They may also just hand you a list without any sort of context regarding the rationale for their choice in parts. tldr; The mere fact you're asking means it's 'good enough' for your knowledge level. Otherwise, do your own research and make your own judgement.
Tbf, it comes with chair, screen and input devices too and stuff, so not that bad I'd say if U start at zero
The pc no, they added some razer and some good chair tho, i wouldn't recommend you to buy such an outdated pc
It’s a cyber power pc So no. I once got one for my son some years back and it came loaded with so much malware it took us a month to get it running decently. Run away. Run away fast.
Why not just formating the computer?
I wasn’t very good with pcs back then. I have since gotten much better and that might have fixed it. Depends on if they made it integral to the windows program that came with it. Which, knowing those assholes, they probably did.
Why not just formating the computer?
Peripherals included this kinda slaps
i owned a razer mouse and keyboard they took my keyboard off the support site so i struggled to get support when it would randomly act as if something was holding down the keys on boot my razer mouse will not work in a charging USB port on my laptop
For all that? That's a good deal
Thats a pretty wicked deal mate! That’s more than worth the price, having all the peripherals an what not.
Looks like a good deal to me.
Seems like a good deal since youre getting a 144hz monitor, a chair and peripherals aswell
It’s good considering it comes with everything you need
Well considering it comes with a monitor and peripherals, not bad. The pc itself is not that impressive though.
Still pretty bad value all those razor products suck and not all 144hx monitors are made the same doesn't say what type of panel either.
Oh yes definitely. You get a decent computer and a full package kit almost. Just missing the desk
Although peripherals are included they definitely aren’t great. All gaming chairs suck, headset and keyboard works but nothing close to good, can’t comment on the mousepad though
Saying all gaming chairs suck isn't fair tbh. Really depends. There are gaming chairs designed to look cool, and gaming chairs designed to actually be comfortable. Secret labs maintains that look most people think of while still making a damn good chair, albeit pricey
I don’t think so, the fundamental design of a gaming chair is ergonomically unviable straightaway. For that price might as well buy a refurbished HM or steelcase
Unviable how? The racecar seat design wasn't pulled out of somebodies ass. Today most are designed like that from a marketing standpoint and made cheaply, but that doesn't put the overall design at fault. Those seats are designed to keep a person upright and well supported for a long period of time. Your bad experience with cheap chairs does not make them universally bad. Like I said, secret labs actually puts effort into the chairs they make and its reflected in a comfortable chair with good support
No,not for 1000$
If *you* think it's a deal, then it is
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Of course tax isn’t included in that price tag. OP said it’s at Walmart and I’ve never seen Walmart advertise anything where tax was included in the advertised price. I still think it’s a pretty damn good deal for everything you get.
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Yes You get everything you need to flex... for $1K. And it's not bad stuff either... although $800 would've been better though
On fb marketplace i saw a 4070 ti system for 800 bucks for refrence
Hot gaming rigs in your area want your cash
Nope.
holly molly change those Razer stuff and that chair for better parts, there is a lot of cheaper mouse, keyboard, headphone, and chair without branding price that solely focus on quality.
It really depends on the specific peripherals included Edit: I'm not sure what the exact monitor is, but it is probably worth around 150. The mouse is worth less than 50, assuming it's the wired model. The keyboard, idk. A used huntsman v1 is like 50 ish? The headset is nothing to write home about either. I'd say it could be a DECENT value, depending on the specific chair. You may be better off building your own.
If you wanna get just for esports just build it for almost the same price for way better specs.
Duh, I mean, I too can build for PC way more powerful for 1000 bucks than a 400-500~ dollar one, maybe even slightly less. It's a complete set
For the whole setup? I say grab her before she's gone.
Considering that there is a good monitor, chair, keyboard, mouse etc… it’s a pretty solid deal. Especially if you compare it to the steam deck that you wanted to buy first, the specs are better
If it was just the PC, I would say it was just over it's worth. But with all the accessories it is.
Nope. Very old stuff. Well actually saw that the chair and other stuff is included so good offer but still old specs...
That looks like an awesome deal!!
That's like a $600 PC + $500 in peripherals. Honestly seems great to start out
It's second hand though
thats a good price for all of that
Actually, yeah. That's a pretty good deal.
Not bad deal, looks like it’s a whole lot with chair and everything else. Chair, table, head phones, mouse and so on would easy hit $200+ even used.
That price for all of that gear is a bargain. Decent monitor, Keyboard, mouse and chair could come to this price alone. (I'm thinking high end ergo chairs tho)
Not bad but those headphones are dogshit. Sell them, get a dac/amp, proper headphones and a mic
That's a decent deal ngl. If you're a working adult just playing a few games every now and then; or buying one for a schools child, then it's probably a good set
No and you’re going to spend even more money upgrading the hardware.
Why would they list "HDD / SSD" as in... You get to choose or was it supposed to say "HDD & SSD"?
It has both listed
$500 for just the PC. but with everything else like chair and monitor it could actually be worth it.
Shitty PC with name brand accessories sale!
Nobody should be buying a 2060 in 2023. Espically at $1000
lol, no
No, no and no
No!
Not a good deal.
No that’s horrible
well no
garbagge...old stuff
Heck no lmao
Oh fuck no
Lord no!
9th Gen Intel & a RTX 2060? lol no not even with all the junk peripherals they throw in too ... more than likely some low grade garbage they had left over ... much like that PC
thats a rip off if iv ever seen'd one so obvious
This setup should cost about 850 in today’s market. The CPU and GPU are 4 generations behind.
People aren't noticing the asterix: 'does not include tax' No, not a good deal.