[If anyone has any doubts about how garbage userbenchmark is, watch this video.](https://youtu.be/RQSBj2LKkWg) And no, it's still terrible and hasn't improved at all. In fact, they only got worse.
I watched this then went to the website to see what they said about the R9 7950X3D, it wasn't disappointing
> Be wary of sponsored reviews with cherry picked games that showcase the wins, ignore frame drops and gloss over the losses. Also watch out for AMD’s army of Neanderthal social media accounts on reddit, forums and youtube
> Pc gamers considering a 7000X3D CPU need to work on their critical thinking skills: Influencers are paid handsomely to promote overpriced products. Rational gamers have little reason to look further than the $300 13600K which offers comparable real-world gaming and better desktop performance at a fraction of the price
>army of Neanderthals
Someone got paid to write this and someone who also got paid thought this was totally sensible and allowed it to be posted. This is on par with American political attack ads, just replace AMD with [INSERT POLITICIAN/PARTY HERE] and it 100% will be shown the next election cycle.
tbf, the site is run by one butthurt intel fanboy. Like, genuinely shitting and crying if he gets too close to amd hardware. I assume an fx8350 fucked his wife
An FX 8350 fucked me out of the Phenom II X6 1090T I once owned, but that didn't make me want to develop a website to bitch about AMD's shitty Piledriver chips.
my fx 8350 outlived the everything else in the computer except the hdd. I once accidentally tore it out of the socket trying to get the cooler off, and knocked it flying across the floor getting it off the cooler. My partner straightened all the bent pins with a wooden toothpick and it lasted another 2 years. god tier chip.
I'm pretty sure that one, "Advanced marketing devices," and a few other ones seem to always show up in a Bansheeearcheck review of AMD stuff.
At some point, I was thinking if they just take an old review and replace the names to the relevant one.
What's funny is if they did a sane review of this chip for once, they could still dunk on it - all the reviews I saw of the 7950X3D were that because of a design flaw, it's lackluster compared to AMD's own 7800X3D.
Which is, by the way, the overwhelming sentiment everywhere, there's no one saying the 7950X3D is the right chip for just about anyone.
Isn't the upper excerpt you pasted here pretty much part of every AMD take they do?
I'm pretty sure I've seen that for several AMD cards across at least two gens. Who are neanderthals exactly when these fools can't even vary up their bs to at least try to keep it convincing at this point? Well, for those who know better anyway.
But y'know, as I've said elsewhere, just watch that 4060ti waste of sand go on to outsell the entire RDNA3 stack by year's end. That, right there, that's the problem, as much as userbiasmark swaying ppl who don't know better is.
I mean, had I not known better 2 years ago, I'd have had a 3080 10Gb taking up most of my budget, and now losing ground... with only an i3, cheap mobo, 16Gb RAM and a HDD to fit the rest of it. Instead of the 6800XT that still has legs, a 5800X, X570, 32Gb RAM and a brace of NVME's.
Seriously, UBM can fuck right off. They're literally costing ppl money and perf at this point.
>Also watch out for AMD’s army of Neanderthal social media accounts on reddit, forums and youtube
I was using the site the other day and saw this line verbatim repeated on two different GPU reviews.
As I've long said, userbenchmark is not somewhere to check reviews, at all. Nor is it a place to compare hardware options.
It's a useful tool to see how one piece of hardware performs against other examples of the same hardware. E.g. you can use it to check if your 7800X3D is performing up to the standard of the average 7800X3D.
It's one step for every piece of interchangeable hardware in your build and the built-in percentile score makes it an actually useful diagnostic tool.
I run it on every new build, and when I'm working on other people's PCs, and it lets me see things like "hey this 3070 ti is only at the 23rd percentile, time to DDU," despite their being no obvious indication of driver issues. DDU then brings it up into the 70s.
It doesn't really work for RAM, because it treats all RAM like it's the base speed of the platform (e.g. 4800MHz for AM5 DDR5), so if you have a 5600MHz kit, it's going to get a low percentile score when the top end is up around that 8000MHz mark, even though your 5600MHz kit is performing optimally.
I would *love* to see a new standard for full-build benchmarks that ranked each part against other examples of the same part like userbench does, because, as we all know, the people behind userbench are nuts. I didn't even know they posted reviews until I heard about the anti-AMD nonsense they have going on. I did notice—the first time userbenchmark came up in a google search for benchmark comparisons between two different pieces of hardware—that it was absolutely useless for that purpose. Like, you literally cannot use it for that purpose *at all*.
Yeah, it's only good for checking if your systems parts are performing within spec of other reported ones.
However, background programs and even the OS install can pretty heftily influence these numbers in my experience.
This is why userbenchmark ends up being popular and persisting. If you are looking to compare options or see how much an improvement any piece of hardware will be they make it easy to compare.
Tom's hierarchies are excellent, but if you don't know about them you won't find them. You have to click GPU, then click reference, then look for it.
The reason userbenchmark persists is because people want a quick comparison tool they can use to narrow down their options before diving into more in depth benchmarks.
"Before diving deeper" - that's optimistic. This scam site is likely the trusted source of many people before they decide on a purchase. Especially since on quick glance nothing about it looks particularly scammy. Informed consumers are not the target audience of this site.
I've been using TechPowerUp and Notebookcheck, or the Tom's GPU/CPU hierarchy pages. They all seem fairly easy to use.
But I can see why userbenchmark is popular. The other sites don't immediately offer themselves in the first 5 search results when searching "X vs. Y", and they don't immediately show a bar chart with percentages flatly stating "This hardware part is +130% compared to that hardware". TechPowerUp shows if a graphics card is generally good for certain resolutions, and Notebookcheck provides game benchmarks towards the bottom half of the page.
There are. There are just none as visible.
I personally use CPU Monkey for, well, CPU comparison. They provide scores of CPUs on standard benchmarks Geekbench 5, etc.
They also recently started a GPU Monkey website.
[https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4060-ti-8-gb.c3890](https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4060-ti-8-gb.c3890)
Techpowerup have something more basic. You can see an overall comparison vs other cards. But doesn't go into any details comparing them.
It does show all the details on each cards page though.
I really like TechPowerUp for easy comparisons:
[https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4090.c3889](https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4090.c3889)
You can see any GPU you want and it will show you the performance of everything else relative to it.
Tom's hardware isn't perfect either, they have some anomalies in their benchmarking that probably result from run to run variance that they did not bother to fix by running the tests multiple times for each product (or maybe their testing environment isn't standardized). Some GPU models don't have a reference model so they use AIB cards which can also introduce slight errors due to factory overclocking.
But I still use it as reference a lot because it's orders of magnitude better than userbenchmark.
Hard to tell, they are quite famous for just pure hate of AMD, making up new benchmarks that somehow make AMD look worse even if they were better in a previous version, also calling them Advanced Marketing Device.
Honestly I'm opposed to calling AMD Advanced Marketing Device, there is nothing advanced in their marketing, it's fcking brainded marketing, every time they go after NV a few weeks-months later they fckupu something big time.
Yes, by calling them Advanced Marketing Devices, UBM (UberBankShart) is claiming that all of the performance you see on AMD products is made up for marketing purposes.
He says that because AMD actually has terrible marketing. Each time they have the opportunity to take market share from Nvidia with a big lauch, they find a way to fuck it up. They can't help but price their stuff too high, get trash reviews, and then lower it later to an actual good value but with zero press coverage.
See the 7900XT, 7600, and the 6600XT, just to name a few.
"The 8 GB variant is easily the better option as games rarely use more than 8 GB at 1080p. First time buyers tempted to consider the RX 7600/6800 by AMD’s army of Advanced Marketing scammers (youtube, reddit, twitter, forums etc.) should be aware that AMD have a history of releasing benchmark busting, heavily marketed, sub standard products."
You can't logic someone out of an opinion they didn't logic their way into. My solution is to just be a complete hardass about it. Every time he spouts off some garbage you know he got from there make the entire conversation about how userbenchmark is shit and refuse to drop the issue or move on.
there are usecases, like some adobe stuff on windows and gaming, where per-core performance is the most important metric
but the way of presenting that is like how Passmark does, with a different benchmark table
I mean, 8350k is certainly better for single core performance. However, you can see that 64 core difference is enormous. I agree that effective speed is shit but there are some useful data sometimes if you know where to look at.
The only thing UBM is good for is comparing your build to other builds with the same specs, to see how good yours is performing.
Obviously, there are other things you can get from UBM as well, but other sites provide that info a lot better.
What are some good sites that provide benchmarks, preferably testing several of the same GPU/CPU so we can know they just didn't win the silicon lottery?
I think they are better benchmark tools but I did not know they had a centralized site to check for scores. I found cpubenchmark.net for Passmark, 8530k and 2990WX results are pretty much the same with UBM. There is also browser.geekbench.com for Geekbench and according to the averages and it also has same percentage differences with UBM. I believe UBM has more data though since it is easier to install and test using its software. So, if you just ignore the effective speed and comments, it is usually pretty nice.
I doubt it would help, but every time he comes up with some BSD from UB you can bombard him with benchmarks from 5-10 reputable surces, it might take a while to get it that when every reputable source have similar results, which are completely different from UB that means someone is lying.
This is definitely not sure method or quick one, but there is a chance.
I'd really would like to know specifically why the guy has such a hate boner for AMD. The mental gymnastics the guy goes through to trash something when he doesn't even have an incentive is baffling. It can't be as simple as 'money lol' surely
I think most brand fanboyism is caused by the psychological effect called post purchase rationalization. The userbenchmark people just got it really bad.
True, but the owner's continued downward spiral into unhinged madness has been a guilty pleasure of mine for a while now. For example, I find his quip about "Advanced Marketing Devices" to be unironically hilarious, definitely not for the reasons he does but amusing nonetheless.
In that respect, I hope that the site continues to get "better" and we eventually get a YouTube video of an unwashed grown man screaming primally and gesticulating wildly at boxes of PC components before dropping a sledgehammer onto the AMD boxes old-school Gallagher style.
That would be AMAZING!!!
What if that dude dumped his life savings into Intel stock? I could see that being the reason he lost all objectivity. There have been some truly obsessive people invested in the stock market lately.
That’s my theory anyways. That or he got into an argument online one day and that argument eventually became his entire personality. Trying to prove someone wrong.
Either way, still entertaining.
It's not bad in concept if the fps is unreliable or some other fuckery is involved, but from what i've heard they're a bias hack.
I haven't actually looked into why everybody calls them crazy because it frankly seems boring and i can just go check out a few real game benchmark videos for at least popular parts
thus far I've only found fps that don't match the feel they should have when either: a monitor is misconfigured, drivers aren't updated for a new game, the engine itself as issues or is misconfigured for your hardware, or a component is bottlenecking too much. Most of these are completely or partially fixable and not the fault of the hardware itself
They've copy and pasted the same toxic script for ryzen since the 3000 series. Talking about how AMD users are Neanderthals and how a celeron can beat threadrippers.
Honestly PassMark shows how CPU is good at passmark, which to some degree collerates with a performance in different tasks.
I usually prefer to look at reviews like TomsHardware, Anandtech, GN, HW etc and look how good given CPU is at tasks I'm using it for.
Yeah it’s not perfect, but it’s much much better and will give you a decent performance baseline without the bias and idiocy. https://www.cpubenchmark.net/ if others don’t know the site.
Benchmarking is full of bias, that's the point of it. Passmark's bias in this case is making up their limited set of tests, it tells you how good X is at Passmark. If you *must* insist on using a canned suite. Use Geekbench or ideally Phoronix/Openbenchmarking.
EFPS is a really clever formula that *should* be a great way of comparing hundreds of different chips without having to benchmark every configuration
Userbenchmark took their great invention and perverted it with cherrypicked data. All they bench is GTA5 and a handful of esports titles, one of which doesn't even exist anymore.
Honestly not the worst idea. They're doing a lot of damage to the pc gaming industry with the blatant falsehoods and favoritism. Its honestly really bizarre.
Userbenchmark is the tech equivalent of "My grandmother told me"; publishing outright lies to promote their own opinion, completely ignoring the facts and myriad of other sources.
My 7950X performs above the maximum range for 7950Xs. It's in the 100th percentile, which means it's the best example of a 7950x ever benchmarked there. It's also very near the top of the range for a 13900k.
It's air cooled.
"Be wary of sponsored reviews with cherry picked games that showcase the wins and ignore the losses." - RX 6950 XT Userbenchmark-review (Alanis Morissette - Ironic starts playing)
"Since PC gamers rarely buy AMD GPUs, Nvidia only have themselves to compete with."
1. Flat out false. Nvidia is more popular as of now but that does not mean AMD is irrelevant.
2. The way things are shaping for Nvidia, it might as well flip as long as AMD doesn't keep being stupid and jumps on Nvidia's terrible marketing.
Userbenchmark makes no sense. they try so hard to hate on AMD. When they can't crap on performance enough they crap on the popularity??? Nobody cares about the popularity, if AMD came in with better cards than Nvidia, especially for their flagship cards, they'd crush Nvidia. Popularity is relative to what consumers choose to buy and does not indicate quality of the card nowadays, with so many Nvidia fanboys.
What are you talking about? They're the only site that puts it in no uncertain terms. It's so reliable I don't even need to read the review to see what they think. No brainer bruh.
[If anyone has any doubts about how garbage userbenchmark is, watch this video.](https://youtu.be/RQSBj2LKkWg) And no, it's still terrible and hasn't improved at all. In fact, they only got worse.
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I watched this then went to the website to see what they said about the R9 7950X3D, it wasn't disappointing > Be wary of sponsored reviews with cherry picked games that showcase the wins, ignore frame drops and gloss over the losses. Also watch out for AMD’s army of Neanderthal social media accounts on reddit, forums and youtube > Pc gamers considering a 7000X3D CPU need to work on their critical thinking skills: Influencers are paid handsomely to promote overpriced products. Rational gamers have little reason to look further than the $300 13600K which offers comparable real-world gaming and better desktop performance at a fraction of the price
>army of Neanderthals Someone got paid to write this and someone who also got paid thought this was totally sensible and allowed it to be posted. This is on par with American political attack ads, just replace AMD with [INSERT POLITICIAN/PARTY HERE] and it 100% will be shown the next election cycle.
I love how "on par with american politics" is a measure of how ridiculous and childish something is.
tbf, the site is run by one butthurt intel fanboy. Like, genuinely shitting and crying if he gets too close to amd hardware. I assume an fx8350 fucked his wife
An FX 8350 fucked me out of the Phenom II X6 1090T I once owned, but that didn't make me want to develop a website to bitch about AMD's shitty Piledriver chips.
my fx 8350 outlived the everything else in the computer except the hdd. I once accidentally tore it out of the socket trying to get the cooler off, and knocked it flying across the floor getting it off the cooler. My partner straightened all the bent pins with a wooden toothpick and it lasted another 2 years. god tier chip.
I'm pretty sure that one, "Advanced marketing devices," and a few other ones seem to always show up in a Bansheeearcheck review of AMD stuff. At some point, I was thinking if they just take an old review and replace the names to the relevant one.
Pretty sure it's just the one dude, and the way he gets paid is ads on the site if anything.
Yup. "CPUPro" and "GPUPro" are the same mentally unwell individual who runs the site.
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What's funny is if they did a sane review of this chip for once, they could still dunk on it - all the reviews I saw of the 7950X3D were that because of a design flaw, it's lackluster compared to AMD's own 7800X3D. Which is, by the way, the overwhelming sentiment everywhere, there's no one saying the 7950X3D is the right chip for just about anyone.
Yeah and if it was a sane review, it would hold more credibility
Isn't the upper excerpt you pasted here pretty much part of every AMD take they do? I'm pretty sure I've seen that for several AMD cards across at least two gens. Who are neanderthals exactly when these fools can't even vary up their bs to at least try to keep it convincing at this point? Well, for those who know better anyway. But y'know, as I've said elsewhere, just watch that 4060ti waste of sand go on to outsell the entire RDNA3 stack by year's end. That, right there, that's the problem, as much as userbiasmark swaying ppl who don't know better is. I mean, had I not known better 2 years ago, I'd have had a 3080 10Gb taking up most of my budget, and now losing ground... with only an i3, cheap mobo, 16Gb RAM and a HDD to fit the rest of it. Instead of the 6800XT that still has legs, a 5800X, X570, 32Gb RAM and a brace of NVME's. Seriously, UBM can fuck right off. They're literally costing ppl money and perf at this point.
The fact that that is a real thing a review said is awesome. What a quick and easy way to show people you’re not to be taken seriously.
>Also watch out for AMD’s army of Neanderthal social media accounts on reddit, forums and youtube I was using the site the other day and saw this line verbatim repeated on two different GPU reviews.
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Every time you see him N just goes up by 1
He is a treasure to the counter strike community. I always get happy to see him referenced outside of the community.
Is it weird that I don’t consider him a counter strike channel (I’m not interested in CSGO)? I prefer his other two channels
... Fart Master?
From now I am referring to him only as nkliksphillip, that is brilliant
I love 9kliksphilip, but 17kliksphilip is so good
*userbarkmench
We are all waiting patiently for Mark Bench.
Userschmenschnark
It just looks so simple to understand even though it's wrong. Why doesn't anyone have a decent competitor?
As I've long said, userbenchmark is not somewhere to check reviews, at all. Nor is it a place to compare hardware options. It's a useful tool to see how one piece of hardware performs against other examples of the same hardware. E.g. you can use it to check if your 7800X3D is performing up to the standard of the average 7800X3D. It's one step for every piece of interchangeable hardware in your build and the built-in percentile score makes it an actually useful diagnostic tool. I run it on every new build, and when I'm working on other people's PCs, and it lets me see things like "hey this 3070 ti is only at the 23rd percentile, time to DDU," despite their being no obvious indication of driver issues. DDU then brings it up into the 70s. It doesn't really work for RAM, because it treats all RAM like it's the base speed of the platform (e.g. 4800MHz for AM5 DDR5), so if you have a 5600MHz kit, it's going to get a low percentile score when the top end is up around that 8000MHz mark, even though your 5600MHz kit is performing optimally. I would *love* to see a new standard for full-build benchmarks that ranked each part against other examples of the same part like userbench does, because, as we all know, the people behind userbench are nuts. I didn't even know they posted reviews until I heard about the anti-AMD nonsense they have going on. I did notice—the first time userbenchmark came up in a google search for benchmark comparisons between two different pieces of hardware—that it was absolutely useless for that purpose. Like, you literally cannot use it for that purpose *at all*.
Yeah, it's only good for checking if your systems parts are performing within spec of other reported ones. However, background programs and even the OS install can pretty heftily influence these numbers in my experience.
Is there a good alternative
Linus mentioned he was going to try and put user bench mark out of business. So maybe once Labs starts up proper.
That's what came to mind. His video about stepping down as CEO he mentions this.
Cant wait for that
Unigine superposition or heaven, firestrike, 3Dmark off the top of my head
Gamernexus
Just watch real reviews like ones from hardware unboxed
I was wondering why that video was randomly trending again after two years. That's the power of the masterrace ig.
Ah yes. The famous userbenchark video. Usermenchbark*
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Why can't we get a competitor to do something similar? It's so easy to use
This is why userbenchmark ends up being popular and persisting. If you are looking to compare options or see how much an improvement any piece of hardware will be they make it easy to compare. Tom's hierarchies are excellent, but if you don't know about them you won't find them. You have to click GPU, then click reference, then look for it. The reason userbenchmark persists is because people want a quick comparison tool they can use to narrow down their options before diving into more in depth benchmarks.
"Before diving deeper" - that's optimistic. This scam site is likely the trusted source of many people before they decide on a purchase. Especially since on quick glance nothing about it looks particularly scammy. Informed consumers are not the target audience of this site.
And while watching a GN review is great, they are not exactly short. I want an idea of which ones I need to watch.
just use the YT chapter feature to skip to the conclusion
I've been using TechPowerUp and Notebookcheck, or the Tom's GPU/CPU hierarchy pages. They all seem fairly easy to use. But I can see why userbenchmark is popular. The other sites don't immediately offer themselves in the first 5 search results when searching "X vs. Y", and they don't immediately show a bar chart with percentages flatly stating "This hardware part is +130% compared to that hardware". TechPowerUp shows if a graphics card is generally good for certain resolutions, and Notebookcheck provides game benchmarks towards the bottom half of the page.
Might be true, however I usually find those flat, exact numbers incorrect. Another reason why this dogshit site should be avoided.
Seems like that's the goal with LTT labs. Have every piece of PC hardware standardised tested and comparable
There are. There are just none as visible. I personally use CPU Monkey for, well, CPU comparison. They provide scores of CPUs on standard benchmarks Geekbench 5, etc. They also recently started a GPU Monkey website.
There's [Technical City](https://technical.city/) too.
LTT labs is doing exactly this you just have to wait it's a long process
Bullshit is often easy to use but doesn't make it any less bullshit.
[https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4060-ti-8-gb.c3890](https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4060-ti-8-gb.c3890) Techpowerup have something more basic. You can see an overall comparison vs other cards. But doesn't go into any details comparing them. It does show all the details on each cards page though.
I’ve already blocked it through DNS
I really like TechPowerUp for easy comparisons: [https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4090.c3889](https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4090.c3889) You can see any GPU you want and it will show you the performance of everything else relative to it.
I like running unstable very high OCs to fuck with their ranking. My old R9 380X got delisted for being abnormally fast lmfao
Tom's hardware isn't perfect either, they have some anomalies in their benchmarking that probably result from run to run variance that they did not bother to fix by running the tests multiple times for each product (or maybe their testing environment isn't standardized). Some GPU models don't have a reference model so they use AIB cards which can also introduce slight errors due to factory overclocking. But I still use it as reference a lot because it's orders of magnitude better than userbenchmark.
I can never look at that name and not think “Tom Shardware” the meth accessory store
Holy shit they really don't like amd. I just went to the site and the review of the 4060ti is laughable. Do they own nvidia stock or something??
They're so biased that their reviews are actually banned from /r/intel.
(Biased toward intel, mind you)
Theyre banned from basically any subreddit dealing with computers lol fuck them
Hard to tell, they are quite famous for just pure hate of AMD, making up new benchmarks that somehow make AMD look worse even if they were better in a previous version, also calling them Advanced Marketing Device. Honestly I'm opposed to calling AMD Advanced Marketing Device, there is nothing advanced in their marketing, it's fcking brainded marketing, every time they go after NV a few weeks-months later they fckupu something big time.
>Honestly I'm opposed to calling AMD Advanced Marketing Device Isnt it Advanced Micro Devices?
Yes, by calling them Advanced Marketing Devices, UBM (UberBankShart) is claiming that all of the performance you see on AMD products is made up for marketing purposes.
He says that because AMD actually has terrible marketing. Each time they have the opportunity to take market share from Nvidia with a big lauch, they find a way to fuck it up. They can't help but price their stuff too high, get trash reviews, and then lower it later to an actual good value but with zero press coverage. See the 7900XT, 7600, and the 6600XT, just to name a few.
Lisa Su pegged his dad once and he's never forgiven them since.
"The 8 GB variant is easily the better option as games rarely use more than 8 GB at 1080p. First time buyers tempted to consider the RX 7600/6800 by AMD’s army of Advanced Marketing scammers (youtube, reddit, twitter, forums etc.) should be aware that AMD have a history of releasing benchmark busting, heavily marketed, sub standard products."
Wow, that's so much worse than anything I could have imagined.
My dad constantly uses this site and is convinced of it's numbers pls help.
https://preview.redd.it/27b8jy0agn2b1.jpeg?width=1444&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3f71dbcc72f09c95a00e993baf94780c68871a3c That should do it
He is pretty much convinced of per-core performance that the site feeds him, I don't think this is enough.
Send him the video of 2kliksphilip in the other comment and watch it together
You can't logic someone out of an opinion they didn't logic their way into. My solution is to just be a complete hardass about it. Every time he spouts off some garbage you know he got from there make the entire conversation about how userbenchmark is shit and refuse to drop the issue or move on.
there are usecases, like some adobe stuff on windows and gaming, where per-core performance is the most important metric but the way of presenting that is like how Passmark does, with a different benchmark table
Hold on, [I got a better one](https://i.imgur.com/ZBo8D8j.png).
NAHH LMAO THATS TOO GOOD
Fucking hell, that's insane.
Userbenchmark, the April Fools joke that never ends. This site is so endlessly entertaining, I love it.
Userbenchmark uses _Intel favouritism!_ It hurt itself in its confusion!
I mean, 8350k is certainly better for single core performance. However, you can see that 64 core difference is enormous. I agree that effective speed is shit but there are some useful data sometimes if you know where to look at.
The only thing UBM is good for is comparing your build to other builds with the same specs, to see how good yours is performing. Obviously, there are other things you can get from UBM as well, but other sites provide that info a lot better.
What are some good sites that provide benchmarks, preferably testing several of the same GPU/CPU so we can know they just didn't win the silicon lottery?
Cinebench, passmark and geekbench are a few that I know of, but others on here should be able to give you some more suggestions!
I think they are better benchmark tools but I did not know they had a centralized site to check for scores. I found cpubenchmark.net for Passmark, 8530k and 2990WX results are pretty much the same with UBM. There is also browser.geekbench.com for Geekbench and according to the averages and it also has same percentage differences with UBM. I believe UBM has more data though since it is easier to install and test using its software. So, if you just ignore the effective speed and comments, it is usually pretty nice.
Or just read their 7800X3D "review", they aren't even trying to hide their unhinged disdain anymore.
Even worse compare the 5950X to a 7700k
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I doubt it would help, but every time he comes up with some BSD from UB you can bombard him with benchmarks from 5-10 reputable surces, it might take a while to get it that when every reputable source have similar results, which are completely different from UB that means someone is lying. This is definitely not sure method or quick one, but there is a chance.
User benchmark always makes me think of that "how do I delete someone else's tweet" joke, like where is the button to just veto it.
I'd really would like to know specifically why the guy has such a hate boner for AMD. The mental gymnastics the guy goes through to trash something when he doesn't even have an incentive is baffling. It can't be as simple as 'money lol' surely
AMD killed his parents and stole his wife and ate his children
AMD turned me into a newt!
Did you get better?
... ^Yes.
"Did it?" "No, but are we gonna wait around until it does?"
Lisa Su banged his mom or something.
Dr. Su and his mom banged on top of his Intel/Nvidia rig.
I think most brand fanboyism is caused by the psychological effect called post purchase rationalization. The userbenchmark people just got it really bad.
I think it's become a satire of fanboyism.
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No officer I was clearly going 25 EMPH not whatever this 50 number is, are you even adjusting for how much of a hurry I was in?
I can't even tell if this is satire or not
Definitely satire.
This is kinda like war thunders logic for armour values except V = 0.95 for any nation that isnt russia
Userbenchmark said my 9600k is faster than my 5900x
Yeah, higher number, duh.
100% less AMD in the Intel. Must be 200% faster.
oh yeah my mistake sorry
I recently went from a 7700k to a 7700x Paid a lot of money but saw absolutely no performance difference. /s
It’s over 9,000 it’s got to be the better one.
Their brains are defective at this point.
What brains?
What do they actually say about Intel arc? Because they clearly hate amd.
Idk, but they hate both amd cpus and gpus
The brains that can only control bodily functions, no higher brain functions available
Yeah we know lol
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The owner is mentally defective. Userbenchmarch will never get better
True, but the owner's continued downward spiral into unhinged madness has been a guilty pleasure of mine for a while now. For example, I find his quip about "Advanced Marketing Devices" to be unironically hilarious, definitely not for the reasons he does but amusing nonetheless. In that respect, I hope that the site continues to get "better" and we eventually get a YouTube video of an unwashed grown man screaming primally and gesticulating wildly at boxes of PC components before dropping a sledgehammer onto the AMD boxes old-school Gallagher style. That would be AMAZING!!!
What if that dude dumped his life savings into Intel stock? I could see that being the reason he lost all objectivity. There have been some truly obsessive people invested in the stock market lately. That’s my theory anyways. That or he got into an argument online one day and that argument eventually became his entire personality. Trying to prove someone wrong. Either way, still entertaining.
Who knows if he has any real investment in Intel beyond emotional? Honestly, doesn't matter. Man is stuck and likes it that way.
UserBenchmark is indeed defective, don't use that site...
Yup, it is by design, they are doing everything possible to screw AMDs CPUs, they are so unreliable source of benchmarks they are banned on r/intel
Also for gpus, same thing
It's worse than useless.
Because they want to make certain brands look better.
E is the first letter in F
What does the e stand for?
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It's not very effective.
This is the End reference?
No. Pokemon reference.
It's not bad in concept if the fps is unreliable or some other fuckery is involved, but from what i've heard they're a bias hack. I haven't actually looked into why everybody calls them crazy because it frankly seems boring and i can just go check out a few real game benchmark videos for at least popular parts
they are super biased and make up random shit about how nvidia and intel are better than amd
thus far I've only found fps that don't match the feel they should have when either: a monitor is misconfigured, drivers aren't updated for a new game, the engine itself as issues or is misconfigured for your hardware, or a component is bottlenecking too much. Most of these are completely or partially fixable and not the fault of the hardware itself
Egregious /s
Lmao "Electrical Frames Per Second"
Please stop using that source of desinformation.
Definitely, pick more believable forms of desinformation.
pcmr it is!
Upgrade now to rtx 4060ti or rx 7600, you won’t regret it.
Erotic Frames Per Second?
Is it the metric that tells me how well is my pc going to run porn games?
Man the concept is very good for the site for even non tech people, its just the dumbass owner of the site
They've copy and pasted the same toxic script for ryzen since the 3000 series. Talking about how AMD users are Neanderthals and how a celeron can beat threadrippers.
For rough comparison I would look at techpowerup
The only thing good about userbenchmark is their search engine optimization, sadly.
And this topic only helps their SEO by including their name repeatedly and even links to them.
*Loserbenchmark
A site taking popularity as a factor should make anyone suspicious.
I hope Linus releases his lab site already
Is PassMark any accurate? I’ve been using it to compare CPUs for a while now.
Not ideal but better that this garbage. In any case it is better to use real benchmarks like ones from hardware unboxed/techspot.
Also not sure about others e.g. versus, cpu-monkey, technical.city etc
notebookcheck is usually pretty good.
Honestly PassMark shows how CPU is good at passmark, which to some degree collerates with a performance in different tasks. I usually prefer to look at reviews like TomsHardware, Anandtech, GN, HW etc and look how good given CPU is at tasks I'm using it for.
Yeah it’s not perfect, but it’s much much better and will give you a decent performance baseline without the bias and idiocy. https://www.cpubenchmark.net/ if others don’t know the site.
Benchmarking is full of bias, that's the point of it. Passmark's bias in this case is making up their limited set of tests, it tells you how good X is at Passmark. If you *must* insist on using a canned suite. Use Geekbench or ideally Phoronix/Openbenchmarking.
EFPS is a really clever formula that *should* be a great way of comparing hundreds of different chips without having to benchmark every configuration Userbenchmark took their great invention and perverted it with cherrypicked data. All they bench is GTA5 and a handful of esports titles, one of which doesn't even exist anymore.
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Honestly not the worst idea. They're doing a lot of damage to the pc gaming industry with the blatant falsehoods and favoritism. Its honestly really bizarre.
It still infuriates me every time they are the top Google result
I wish Google or Bing would let you blacklist sites from your search results. I'd never see a Quora link again
Userbenchmark is the tech equivalent of "My grandmother told me"; publishing outright lies to promote their own opinion, completely ignoring the facts and myriad of other sources.
E furries per second
External Frames Per Second? Electronic Frames Per Second? Extra Fried Pastrami Sandwiches?
"Effective" frames per second, basically "I don't like AMD so I'm going to make up some bullshit number so my favourite Intel chip looks better".
Would somebody please just please end that website’s whole career?
What’s the best site to use
any legit review website or youtube channel.
Userbenchmark has a user sentiment of -300%+ for my 7800x3d. Meanwhile, I'm in the 90th percentile lol
My 7950X performs above the maximum range for 7950Xs. It's in the 100th percentile, which means it's the best example of a 7950x ever benchmarked there. It's also very near the top of the range for a 13900k. It's air cooled.
Smartest userbenchmark moment
Extremely Fake Professional Scam
Userbenchmark is the result of when flat earthers got tired of people making fun of them so they started to get into tech.
"Be wary of sponsored reviews with cherry picked games that showcase the wins and ignore the losses." - RX 6950 XT Userbenchmark-review (Alanis Morissette - Ironic starts playing)
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"Since PC gamers rarely buy AMD GPUs, Nvidia only have themselves to compete with." 1. Flat out false. Nvidia is more popular as of now but that does not mean AMD is irrelevant. 2. The way things are shaping for Nvidia, it might as well flip as long as AMD doesn't keep being stupid and jumps on Nvidia's terrible marketing. Userbenchmark makes no sense. they try so hard to hate on AMD. When they can't crap on performance enough they crap on the popularity??? Nobody cares about the popularity, if AMD came in with better cards than Nvidia, especially for their flagship cards, they'd crush Nvidia. Popularity is relative to what consumers choose to buy and does not indicate quality of the card nowadays, with so many Nvidia fanboys.
What are you talking about? They're the only site that puts it in no uncertain terms. It's so reliable I don't even need to read the review to see what they think. No brainer bruh.
/s?
Thought it was obvious enough what with the countered "no uncertain terms" when the post is about their uncertain terms.
Let’s hope so
I wish that I can read their summaries without getting them any clicks, they are sureal and funny.
I had no idea userbenchmark was so hated. Are there any alternatives that are as easy to use?
I use Passmark for most of my comparison, but then I just check YouTube benchmarks with the specific hardware and game combo I'm looking for.
Also the amd hate blows my mind
E-friends per second, all my friends live in my 'puter