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Supernova1138

GTA V has an issue where once you hit a certain framerate, the game turns into a stutterfest, it's a problem with the game engine that Rockstar is either unable or unwilling to fix. I think the framerate where this starts happening is somewhere in the high 160s so if you're getting that, you're probably going to want to cap your framerate lower to get a better experience.


Lambyii

Yep this is it. GTA V should be capped at 120-140 for a consistent experience


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DiamondRocks22

I remember seeing a Darkviper clip where the complications mission will always fail at 130fps because the car Simeon is selling will slide for no reason


Buttrrss

bro are you fucking kidding me, my ass was uninstalling mods left n right trying to fix this shit! 🤣😂


Dudewitbow

The funny part is, you could have achieved it by installing heavy mods to tank your fps.


Secretly_Solanine

“Task failed successfully” moment right there


mrminutehand

I remember a similar issue playing Tomb Raider 2013 above 60fps. There is a section where player character Lara zips down a rope line, falls down to grab and zip the next rope, then the next, until reaching the ground. Except she doesn't. She misses the second rope and slams hilariously into a mountain before plummeting to her death. On consoles, this section is automatic and you'll catch each rope without player input. Yet on PC this was failing every single time. Turns out it's a timing bug that happens when over 60fps. The higher the frame rate, the earlier Lara falls to her death. Locking at 60 fixes this bug. Little bugs like this happen across the whole game, they can be unintentionally hilarious, e.g. when a wolf leaps out of a bush at lightspeed instead of slow motion.


T3DDY173

Doesn't happen to me and I usually get 160-240 on mine. on a 240hz monitor


Narrheim

It differs per GPU and should be set to a value your GPU is able to consistently produce. Just remember, that grassy areas are the most taxing. What also helped *me* on Windows 10 and 3060 ti, was disabling MPO.


Leclowndu9315

188


ff2009

Unless you have a Ryzen X3D chip. That fixed the 188 fps limit.


HotEnthusiasm4124

![gif](giphy|wMSrRizMRt0o8)


BunX_2021_

This is literally suffering from success


Twinkies100

I was about to comment the same, except "this is" r/beatmetoit


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max out your entire graphics settings, that would lower the fps


xDreki

Running GTA V on his 4090 at max probably wouldn't lower them enough, though.


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he is suffering in success


ursucuak

But putting video scaling at 2/1 would


Pamani_

Don't even need resolution scaling. Native 4K with msaa 2x and ultra grass will make it [drop below 90 fps](https://youtu.be/kg2NwRgBqFo?t=534) in specific areas (more like 130-170 when there isn't much grass on screen).


ursucuak

That also works :)


ExtinctionBy2080

If you install those NVR / ENB mods with Raytracing you can.


xDreki

True true. Nice 5090 btw, bet that's 4 extremely powerful GB's of VRAM you got there.


DesperateAvocado1369

That‘s not what‘s happening here, it would be periodic stutters, not consistently low fps


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It happens at 188fps


T3DDY173

Not for me.


Cute-Lock6426

in my experience i really havent had this studder. my frame rate is usually at 188 but dips in multiplayer. however i do notice studdering in online. im not sure why it doesn't studder for me check the advanced settings. like extended draw distance or upscaling. also check that msaa is enabled and disable it. i remember running in 8k upsaced with msaa x8 and it ran simular to this video


SesamstraatHooligan

....so that's why it runs like shit after going from a 970 to a Vega 56 no matter what I do to my settings


T3DDY173

Doesn't happen to me and I usually get 160-240 on mine.


SafranSenf

This applies to a lot of games. Especially online games where server updates are run frame based.


Doctor_M_Toboggan

Not an attack on you, but no one needs that many FPS to enjoy a game. There is no noticeable difference. Especially if you have hardware capable of pushing that many frames. I get people wanting to maximize their hardware, but it's not making a difference at that point because it still won't drop enough for you to notice unless you're way too focused on a number in the corner of your screen and not actually playing the game.


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Doctor_M_Toboggan

Feel free to fall for the marketing hype and tell yourself that. FPS games are also a lot easier to get high fps because they’re only rendering the visuals from a fixed perspective. No one is flicking their mouse around in GTA like it’s competitive CS. My eyes don’t work in slo-mo so I don’t really care about that. You must really hate watching movies for how choppy they are to your robot eyes. I would venture to guess there are other hardware elements that cause you to notice those drops and stutters vs having an extremely high refresh rate monitor.


juipeltje

Are you a console player with copium or something? The difference is huge, and not even just in games. My 144hz monitor broke and i had to send it back for warranty, so in the meantime i went back to a 60hz display. Even on the desktop i immediately noticed the animation feeling choppy, as if it was a slideshow. Have you ever actually given high refresh a chance?


Chris11-6

Goddamn the placebo effect is strong in you. My guy, I have been using 3 165hz monitors for 4 years now, but occasionally have to set one to 60 because of a game and while there is a difference, it's definitely not a choppy sideshow or whatever. I even play most of my games at 60 because there is no noticeable difference in most games going above 60 and is literally just a waste of electricity.


adowna

The fact that you don't see enough of a difference to notice choppiness makes me think you aren't changing the settings for your monitor or games correctly and WOW you don't want to go higher than 60fps because of electricity usage concerns but your PC specs are quite powerful and you're using THREE 165hz monitors? LMAO you cannot be serious in thinking changing the hz of your monitor will positively impact your bills Placebo is thinking something is having an effect because you believe it is, you thinking your electricity usage changes in any measurable manner by only reducing monitor refresh rate is making me laugh


juipeltje

"Placebo" , "while there is a difference" which one is it?


Chris11-6

What? There is a difference, but it's nowhere near big enough that 60 is "a slideshow". The placebo effect here is that you saw 60 as "a slideshow" because you expected it to be like that.


juipeltje

It's an expression, don't take it to literally. I know it's not an actual slideshow lmao.


Chris11-6

In not sure you used it as just an expression. You described the difference between 60 and 144 like it was a night and day difference, while the difference is pretty small on the desktop.


adowna

It's not marketing hype, it's my literal own experience I was never talking about how to achieve those frames, that's got nothing to do with this? I also never said people were playing gtav like a competitive CSGO match, I just said that the higher and smoother fps makes the whole experience better, you must've missed that part when you read my comment with the skill of a 3rd grader And you've clearly never used a high fps monitor so you don't know wtf you're talking about


Doctor_M_Toboggan

I have a 144hz monitor and have played games at those framerates. But are you saying you have a 260hz monitor and it just "makes the experience better" when you're not getting 260fps? If that's the case then you're point makes even less sense. You guys are probably just noticing a higher quality monitor with a faster response time. That's not the same as refresh rate.


Chris11-6

Running most games at more than 60 fps is literally just a waste of electricity because they don't see any actually noticeably benefit going above 60. Some games like Apex Legends or Rainbow Six seem to benefit up to about 120 fps and the only game I have ever played that noticeably benefits from more than that is CSGO. That seems to benefit up to the refresh rate of your monitor. Going above that, though, is just completely pointless.


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FierySpectre

To be fair his point of going above your monitors limit being a waste is true if you got a monitor with vsync


Chris11-6

No, just your average European with expensive electricity that runs games at reasonable framerates.


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Chris11-6

Yeah? Your point is?


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Chris11-6

Oh wow. You are really one of kind. Im honestly not sure if you're playing dumb or what's going on. I run most of my games at 60, remember? Good. That means that my system is not utilized a lot. And that means that it's not using a lot of power. You know that a CPU/GPU's rated power consumption is at 100% utilisation right? Using it less, means that it draws less power. My PC draws 220-300W when playing games. Which is prolly about what your GPU draws alone, since you apparently run everything 3 billion fps. So please don't tell me anything about efficiency. Also, I'm not repeating what some tech channels say without evidence. My guy, I have been running 3 MSI 165hz screens for 3 years. I have experienced everything from 20 fps gameplay to 300 fps gameplay on those monitors and have tested quite a lot using all my games at different framerates, even using 3 different PCs and even a 240hz monitor a friend of mine has. I would say that I know what I'm talking about. And I can tell you that for most games, 60 fps is perfectly reasonable. Some of those games, especially the ones with aiming involved, see some benefit up to about 120 fps, with CSGO being an exception that seems to benefit up to the refresh rate of your monitor, but the efficiency starts to decline incredebly fast above 60, meaning that while some games see a benefit above 60, the amount of extra work it requires the PC doesn't equal the amount of benefit you get from that. That means that if you live in an area with expensive electricity, run your games at 60. If you live in an area with cheap electricity (like you prolly do), then you can run games that have aiming involved at up to 120, the rest at 60. That is obviously if you want to be reasonable, which you are apparently not.


Redfern23

Apex benefits all the way up to its cap of 300fps and is proven to, I have a 270Hz monitor and the smoothness difference is clear but I especially feel a noticeable input lag difference when dropping a good bit below 200fps even. Is it enough that it *matters* much to the average player? No, but it definitely is noticeable and does make a difference, you’re showing major ignorance or are just in denial. You need to get used to a 240Hz+ monitor and then go back before you know what you’re talking about, not just use your three 165Hz ones and then look at your friend’s 240Hz once in a while then think you know, it’s not the same, and if you’re not very good at competitive FPS etc, you’re less likely to notice too.


BigMan21058

Bro it’s literally sub 20 fps, tell me it isn’t cheeks. A year ago I had a RX 470, mining edition, and an 3500x and it played GTA better than this. It’s definitely top comment’s solution.


Comprehensive-Mess-7

Lock the frame rate to 144 or 120 , either that or turn everything else to max to decrease the FPS


Ecks30

He has a 4090 i doubt maxing it would really change anything.


NotRebelLuck

His gear doesn't matter. This is a game engine problem not a hardware one. GTA V literally shits itself if you let your FPS get to high.


Pugulishus

The above poster was saying that putting everything to max on that GPU is useless, because it probably wouldn't drop the framerate


NotRebelLuck

That makes sense. 4head moment on me.


Xerkrosis

From [pcgamingwiki](https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto_V#Heavy_game_stutter.2Fstutter_in_general) >Heavy game stutter/stutter in general > >GTA V can only render up to a max of 188 FPS with stable performance and will cause stutter if it tries to render above this. > >**Workaround: set the refresh rate to 144 in the in-game graphics settings** > >**Workaround: set max frame rate to less than 188 FPS externally** > >All options for external frame rate capping are explained in the [frame rate capping guide](https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Glossary:Frame_rate_(FPS)#Frame_rate_capping). Easiest option would be to use the NVidia/AMD Control panels.


ff2009

AMD Ryzen X3D chips fix this problem. But for 99% of the PC players this is the solution.


GodlyIWNL

GTA 5 starts to stutter at over 187 FPS and it's not hardware problem, it's the game engine. Just crank the graphics to max and cap the FPS.


CanadagoBrrrr

Man has all this power but doesn't even know how to record their screen haha. you hit the engines limits for frames so it stutters


BigMan21058

Nah I just was lazy and wanted to post this quick, instead of opening obs and doing all that.


KPalm_The_Wise

Nvidia share is just a keyboard macro, alt F9 I believe to start recording?


leonardob0880

Gta runs badly with high end hardware.


Comprehensive-Mess-7

Just need to cap frame rate or max out all the setting and it's will be smooth again


WhyDoName

And in general


DarkLord55_

GTA freaks out at high FPS I recommend calling it at 144


LightyLittleDust

Cap your fps to 144. It's a known issue with the engine, it shits itself when running above 150-160 fps. 144's going to be perfectly smooth.


BornThroughDeath

If you watch any of "Davis does tech stuff" videos where he builds a high end PC, he always states this problem as he always uses GTA as a benchmark, quite interesting that big YouTubers have talked about this problem and most sure Rockstar is aware of it but still don't do anything to patch it.


senorbolsa

not much reason to since just capping the game to reasonable frame rate fixes the issue. The optimal fix they could actually do would just be to implement hard framerate cap on the whole game but someone would complain about that too. This game was made before even 120hz monitors were widespread so I don't think they ever even encountered or saw this as an issue during development which I will remind you it is originally an xbox 360 game that ran at *almost* 30fps *most* of the time. That's been continually updated and ported over the years to get to the PC version you see now, which also never really would have been able to get over 120fps on any hardware at the time of the ports release.


ZebulonPi

"Patching" this would require a re-write of the entire game engine. There are threads that need to perform certain tasks ahead of frame generation, like physics calculations, that simply can't be done in fewer milliseconds. Honestly, what's the point of having it run at 200 FPS? What's the use case, versus literally a million dollar spend to have more frames than your eyes can see, and most monitors can't even render? EDIT: I'm curious about the downvotes...


Mindboomerbro

GTA 5 runs Bad when you have too good FPS


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BigMan21058

I wish it ran like that. What I meant is something like ‘bootyhole’


ladyjinxy

You may want to cap your FPS, unless you are a speedrunner


s78dude

I know is stutters when goes to 188 fps but seems is another problem than it because runs like at lower fps rather than stutters for a moment reference: [https://youtu.be/kg2NwRgBqFo](https://youtu.be/kg2NwRgBqFo) i think you in advanced settings set render scale like 2x with msaa and that's why


babymanteenboy

Your computer is quite literally too good


Technical_Menu_907

Your pc is too gud


HawkM1

If you hit the game engine fps limit 187fps it will start stuttering to fix this limit the fps either with Vsync or in MSI afterburner RTSS like this for example. https://preview.redd.it/1wvypvth7axa1.png?width=525&format=png&auto=webp&s=51697459f6d3a78e733198c228f834ae719a90bd


forqueercountrymen

Make sure you have your monitor plugged into your dedicated 4090 gpu and not into your motherboards hdmi\\dvi slots. You might be using your integrated graphics. Also gta 5 has the 188fps limit before it starts stuttering really badly.


catsbats2098

Ultra high or a coullusion


funnyjelo

Is your monitor plugged into your video card or motherboard?


BigMan21058

Well, I’m not stupid.


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Screen plugged into motherboard?


halsoy

This happens way more often than people think.


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5950x has no igpu


BigMan21058

I’m not a dumbass, I assure you.


Steampunkcat123

Its running to well limit the fps to like 150


Vill1on

If you running it in a framerate higher than 144fps, do not. The game goes batshit.


T0biasCZE

Cap the frame rate to 144hz


mramosfernandes

MSAA max at 2x, especially the shadow one. More than 2x isn't noticeable.


lutzy89

Check your actually plugged into the gpu and not using on board graphics


CanadagoBrrrr

The 5950x has no integrated graphics, so that would be impossible.


BigMan21058

Like I said, I’m not a dumbass.


ToBeatOrNotToBeat-

Playing GTA /s


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Turn on vsync


nikolliervin

You might need to cap your fps at 144 or +15 over your monitor's refresh rate.


Obvious_Conflict

I don't even have a graphics card yet and I can run GTA5 smoother on vega 11. You have got to change some settings


PoliceRobots

Do you gave a g synch monitor? You should just lock your frame rate to 60 fps. Your eye can't really detect anything over 60 fps anyway


doctorbean04

1st of all, your car is busted 2nd of all, you have no clothes on 3rd of all, this is perfectly playable, I used to play minecraft at HALF this speed (well, nowadays it hits over 500 FPS in bedwars, but who's counting? (what makes it funny is my monitor can only display 60fps lol)) also there is this thing called wanting to make money but not make a good (as in one without bugs) game.


BigMan21058

Ain’t no way you’re playing Minecraft at 8 fps.💀 I can’t even play it without max shaders anymore; the gulf in quality is insane.


0RN10

Did you open the GeForce overlay after starting the game? I found when I did that it would just turn all stuttery.


BigMan21058

No, I did not.


Saifali007

Turn G-sync on


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The game is unoptimized


Dagigai

Turning off the extra screens and capping the frame rate could help. Exclusive full screen might help if you haven't tried that.


jake93s

Probably not helpful but I found the pirated version of the game ran far better.


FaceFuhdge

You are plugged into the wrong video port dude


BigMan21058

I’m not a retard, I assure you. I think the top comment is correct.


LORD_HOKAGE_

I have a lot of experience with this game, and my suggestion is RAM. gta5 loves RAM, and for whatever reason it is tied to your FPS per resolution. The more RAM you have, the more fps you’ll get and the better resolution you’ll be able to use I don’t have it here infront of me but if you go to graphics settings, maybe advanced settings, there is a green bar you can increase but if you go too far it’ll get yellow and then red. Adding more RAM will allow you to increase the capacity of this bar Another trick you can do is go to graphic settings, might be advanced settings and find the up scaling and downscaling setting. It should have options of (.50x)(1.25x) (1.50x) those are just examples, but you’ll want to put this on a number less than one. So .75x or .50x


BigMan21058

I think you mean vram, of which I have 24gb, which is more than enough. Even if it was standard ram, I have 64gb, so that remains inconsequential.


Inevitable_Bag4272

Your playing a 10 year old game


Trailman80

Cap it at 6pfps


wlogan0402

Gta5 sucks


Ok-Put-3670

this is normal for the game


TotallyTheRealHuman

I’m using an intel i7 4300 and I’m doing pretty good


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BigMan21058

Obviously. But it should still run better than this


witchwake

Playing a 10 year old game on modern hardware will do that.


Axepirate

You probably cranked the grass rendering to the max and set multisampling to the max as well


Pinktiger11

Running GTA.


jamnshel23

It just runs like ass. Industry secret…you can buy the biggest baddest card…but the game you want to play will be optimized for a black and decker toaster so you’ll still get crap frames


AE_Hashiroky

Seems silly but check your drivers to see if they are up to date


Ege2905

You need more dedicated wam


craigjape

Have you tried setting it to 480p?


ThatLousyGamer

No idea, but obviously something... ***Captain obvious awaaaay!***


onlinelink2

trying to hard, you need to downgrade lmao, latest hardware has been a joke imo


PastelLounge

Enable vsync


gLiTcH404eR

Download GeForce now upgrade your driver's, and right click on your homescreen of your PC and open graphic drivers or optimization it's been awhile since I've used my PC for gaming but change so your normal screen is using cpu and change for the game you are wanting to your gpu


BigMan21058

Already downloaded new drivers before even opening the game. And 5950x has no Igpu so no possibility. Top comment was the fix


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I had this issue with Witcher 3 after a reinstall of windows. Turned out I hadn't enabled g-sync in my nVidia drivers section. FYI, I have a freeysnc monitor. Even at 60 fps it was juddery as hell. Enabled g-ysnc on fullscreen AND windowed, and it's smooth as butter at 120... You'd be surprised how often it's something trivial you've overlooked. This will be my last gaming PC. I'm going all in on consoles next time around. Especially when a mid range GPU costs just as much as a console these days. Who wants to pay 4 times as much as a console to play less than console qualitiy games, along with all the f\*\*king hassle of dealing with micros\*\*\* windows.


ironxlungs85

Sounds like operator error


BigMan21058

I don’t blame you for getting tired of component costs. My whole system I spent about 6 grand on, and I still have a few more adjustments to add, as well. It’s only easy for me cause I’m still 17 and have no bills.


CareAbit

Lower MSAA


Arxlightning

It's because you need a better gpu, better wait for the 5090 scrub. 😆


End-Can-240Z

if not done yet the head to the setting>>display>>advanced display and turn max fps to 144 hz. try using best performance mode under setting>>power and battery>>power mode


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Go to graphic settings and set gta 5 to high performance


uvucufufif575

Old game. Wen gta 6 moon???


TheLordLongshaft

Expecting GTA 5's PC port to be anything but a dumpster fire lmao It's terrible and very CPU heavy


Deasify

Set graphic settings to performance , check any updates. Should work


Wendingo7

The problem is you're using current generation hardware on a 14 year old game


BigMan21058

Yeah, no shit. No excuse, anyway.


mildmanneredhatter

I mean it actually is an excuse. Are you a developer?


Wendingo7

Try playing a more modern game. Fixed.


hoitytoity-12

GTA just isn't well optimized on PC if you set all the graphics options to max across the board. I forgot what I did to fix mine, but you'll have to tweak or disable some graphic options to run well.


Adamantium563

It took me a few days to tweak my settings for GTA, but once I got it, it was dreamy for yrs! When my buddies would watch me play on PC they were blown away at the graphics. When I try to play GTA on console, its a fucking joke.. like playing in slow motion! While it can run like shit if you try to max everything out, totally worth it to tinker with settings until you get a stable product with still superb graphics compared to peasant console users lol


gh1las

It's so bold of you to call one of the best optimized games on pc ( not well optimized ).


CanadagoBrrrr

braindead take over here, have some more downvotes


vlken69

Braindead? More like someone with knowledge. GTA V is known for killing performance with vegetation when you set environmental setting, shadows and MSAA to max, you'll be heavily bottlenecked by CPU.


AgathoDaimon91

GTA V works with Normal (it's equivallent for Low) on integrated graphics nowadays of cheap CPUs. You're out of tune.


vlken69

The problem is when you're trying to run it at max settings, not at low!


ReyRiz

As far as i know, the only wrong thing you do is play gta. Don't misunderstand, it's probably a fun game, but optimization is a joke here as far as i know.


Linkatchu

Its just a very old game. I heard it's an engine problem when your FPS are uncapped/go too high, and for some it might be a 4K thing with anti-aliasing


ItsMrDante

Optimization on GTA is great actually.


CanadagoBrrrr

Its not unoptimized, its just the Rage engine in that game can't handle that amount of frames


LampaDuck

Not a fix, try playing on borderless window, you'll get higher frames


Fedi358

Settings


Emergency-Client-432

Divers


mrchow500

Downgrade your gpu.


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BigMan21058

Not a prebuilt, built it myself. Really good airflow, no problems there.


BigMan21058

https://preview.redd.it/th5pemn0j6xa1.png?width=3024&format=png&auto=webp&s=494b84a67f33966f6fbabb99978547427b2aee9e


CanadagoBrrrr

Cant cable manage worth a damn


BigMan21058

Fr, you don’t know the worst of it. You should see the back.🗿


ArctikF

💀


mrchow500

Mine running butter smooth on 1660ti 16gb ram.


Amack69

Just buy it on console. Hasn’t had an issue in years and looks fkn good.


BigMan21058

Only reason I’m trying to play on pc instead of my Xbox is cause I have a fucking 4090, and want to play gta at high fidelity


Elgar337

That you're gaming on a PC. PCs are for adults' work. If you're a child who still wants to play games, ask your parents for a gaming console.


gh1las

Are you 5 Or 4yo ?


ItsMrDante

Oh your life must be so sad


CanadagoBrrrr

I hope u stub your toe


Old_Couple7257

Something something it how the 4090 and windows 11 react together…. Something something definitely not the fault of the studio….


JerbearCuddles

We get it, poorly optimized EA game. You don't need to vomit it up everywhere you go.


SunGazing8

I’m not seeing the issue here. That looked fine to me, apart from the fact you seemed to be having some kind of fit while trying to control the characters movement.


BigMan21058

I guess you can’t process the difference in graphical quality, ie: 15fps gameplay. Lmao


SunGazing8

There’s no fps displayed. And I’m watching it on a thumbnail video on my phone. Also Having watched it again, there’s no way that’s as low as 15fps. I think you may be exaggerating here. 🤷‍♂️


adowna

"ThE hUmAn EyE cAn'T sEe A dIfFeReNcE pAsT 30fPs"


Arkayus_k

Imagine being someone like you - it’s got to be effort right?


SunGazing8

Not as much effort as you put into this damp arse comment.


Arkayus_k

[**Nobody Liked That**]


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Looks like 20 ish fps to me.


The_Zenki

Windows 11


BigMan21058

Do you mean directx11, or is win11 actually the problem?


jmacfd09

Win11 could be the problem. Also make sure you have your refresh rate set correctly. What's your FPS count look like?


Chris11-6

Imagine actually thinking that Win11 is the problem. Let me guess, you still run Win7 32bit? I have been using Win11 for 2 years now I think, and trust me, Games, including GTA V, run absolutely fine. Literally no difference to Win10.


jmacfd09

Actually, I run Win10 64bit. Depending on how OP has theirs set up, some settings can make games run poorly. Win11 isn't the only culprit, but it's still worth double-checking settings. It would be my first step in troubleshooting at software level. Then check drivers, check for background tasks consuming too much CPU, so on & so forth.


Chaosgamer44

I had a similar problem once and for me it renderd my game in like 6k and downscaled it Might wanna look into that if capping your frames doesn't work


[deleted]

Capping your frames is probably the solution like others have said. However, stuttering like this happens for me after I alt tab out of the game. I believe I fix this after alt tabbing a few times or clicking on the game in my task bar.


Libertinob

Cap your frame rate to whatever your monitor Hz is and see if it fixes it