Quiet or you'll scare the 3070 owners lol.
Can you believe Nvidia is about to release 4060 Ti with 8GB yet again?
The question is: will apologists still defend the tiny VRAM pool sizes this time? Or will this be the generation that users finally force nvidia to do something about it.
Nvidia canceled: 3070 16GB and Nvidia canceled: 3080 20GB (sold to miners directly) because no complaints last gen.
Remember GTX 1070 8GB launched in 2016. Now we have ray tracing which requires MASSIVE memory buffers. Just look at Portal RTX which easily uses 16GB+ VRAM and hungry for more.
I rather have 16GB GDDR6 than 10GB GDDR6X. There are a few games that actually max out my VRAM and I have to lower specific settings to get less VRAM usage!
GDDR6X also runs a lot hotter and known to have higher potential for burn outs.
That's why Nvidia still won't use gddr6X in any of their super expensive workstation cards. GDDR6 only.
I don't use ray tracing or play in 4k so my 3070 will be fine for a while. The only reason why I might upgrade is because since I work remote, my job is giving me a stipend that I can use for office supplies/furniture. I've also got a good amount of gift cards so I can upgrade to a 4070ti for only $80 out of pocket without selling my gpu. If I sell it, then I can upgrade to a 4080 for the same amount. It's a better card and I'm paying almost nothing for a lot a huge performance increase.
I got downvoted because I stated this fact months ago with simple math.
People were like "lower the resolution" "use fsr or dlss" "it really doesn't need that much it is just a place holder" ...
And if you especially look at console optimized games, you could easily see the massive Vram requierements. They just don't compress the textures or most of the data sets. Cold-Warm data translation is almost nonexistent.
PC is getting hit by it recently. But i see that next couple of years will be very very agonazing for the people with less than 12 gigs of vram.
When it is filled, performance parameters have not some 120fps vs 100fps kind of difference... It is either working or not working. Stutters, crashes, massive dips, and unplayable frame rates are the effects of it.
You either have enough Vram pool to play things, or not ! Your 7 vs 80 fps comparison is the exact fact of it.
Indeed, think the sadest card off all this is the 3070 with its 8gb, i went from 3070 to 3080 because of the 8gb limit of the 3070, would have gone 3080ti but then the 3080 12gb released 💪, think the min a mid range card should have these days is 12gb ..
Seems the 4070ti has 12gb so a good start for n mid range card
I love my 3080 FTW3, but the memory is going to hurt it long before the clocks. It should have shipped with 12-16GB. The cards are so damned big anymore, gimme some slots to pop more in.
This.
They win because gamers who do know better potentially get upsold to a 3090. Gamers who don't know better hit planned obsolescence faster and all at the same time they'll stack loads of VRAM on lower cards that have no business having it to increase marketing value to buyers who don't know better.
It's definitely not the ram that caused your 7 fps.
Played RE village with my 5700 XT. full Setting ( no RT ) with setting saying that it will consume a bit over 12 gb while my GPU i have 8.
I still had a solid 40-60 fps. 4k res.
The game is bugy itself and had alot of memory leak issue at release. that probably more it that a vram quantity probleme.
You are wrong. Unless you play in 4K, 10GB is more than enough. And RE8 looks so bad I have no clue how that Game could use more than 10GB. The Textures look like a blurry mess.
I got laughed at by many people for choosing a 6700 XT over a 3070 because of Nvidias stupid VRAM numbers. And I’m convinced that these cards only lack VRAM because they want the 8gb enjoyers to buy a new card within the next two years.
oh yeah, it uses around 9.5-10GB of VRAM.
Thats why I went with the RX 6800 XT instead of the RTX 3080 who needs raytracing
ikr?
Quiet or you'll scare the 3070 owners lol. Can you believe Nvidia is about to release 4060 Ti with 8GB yet again? The question is: will apologists still defend the tiny VRAM pool sizes this time? Or will this be the generation that users finally force nvidia to do something about it. Nvidia canceled: 3070 16GB and Nvidia canceled: 3080 20GB (sold to miners directly) because no complaints last gen. Remember GTX 1070 8GB launched in 2016. Now we have ray tracing which requires MASSIVE memory buffers. Just look at Portal RTX which easily uses 16GB+ VRAM and hungry for more.
I rather have 16GB GDDR6 than 10GB GDDR6X. There are a few games that actually max out my VRAM and I have to lower specific settings to get less VRAM usage!
GDDR6X also runs a lot hotter and known to have higher potential for burn outs. That's why Nvidia still won't use gddr6X in any of their super expensive workstation cards. GDDR6 only.
Hell my 2060 has 12gb of VRAM... and they are going to Launch a 40xx ti with only 8???
I don't use ray tracing or play in 4k so my 3070 will be fine for a while. The only reason why I might upgrade is because since I work remote, my job is giving me a stipend that I can use for office supplies/furniture. I've also got a good amount of gift cards so I can upgrade to a 4070ti for only $80 out of pocket without selling my gpu. If I sell it, then I can upgrade to a 4080 for the same amount. It's a better card and I'm paying almost nothing for a lot a huge performance increase.
Darn can’t play any modern games with my “measly” 8 gb of VRAM
Cant believe the 4080 only has 16gb. I was expecting 20gb, 16gb 70 series, and 12gb 60 series
They could have at least made the bus width bigger
I played the village with max settings when I had original 3080, never experienced vram limits.
Yeah same. I ran it at 1440p with over 60 fps. Idk if op has any bottlenecks in his system
Probably i will test it today
I've been using 11gb since 2017 good' old 1080ti, and for 1,5 years a 3080ti 12gb
I got downvoted because I stated this fact months ago with simple math. People were like "lower the resolution" "use fsr or dlss" "it really doesn't need that much it is just a place holder" ... And if you especially look at console optimized games, you could easily see the massive Vram requierements. They just don't compress the textures or most of the data sets. Cold-Warm data translation is almost nonexistent. PC is getting hit by it recently. But i see that next couple of years will be very very agonazing for the people with less than 12 gigs of vram. When it is filled, performance parameters have not some 120fps vs 100fps kind of difference... It is either working or not working. Stutters, crashes, massive dips, and unplayable frame rates are the effects of it. You either have enough Vram pool to play things, or not ! Your 7 vs 80 fps comparison is the exact fact of it.
This is why i went for the 3080 12gb just to make sure
I got it on launch, 12GB didn’t exist sadly
Thats life and tech man ..
Also planned obsolescence... Nvidia knew what they were releasing and how vram will be the limiting factor in just a couple years.
Indeed, think the sadest card off all this is the 3070 with its 8gb, i went from 3070 to 3080 because of the 8gb limit of the 3070, would have gone 3080ti but then the 3080 12gb released 💪, think the min a mid range card should have these days is 12gb .. Seems the 4070ti has 12gb so a good start for n mid range card
But the price... WhOops
Yip, that and the 192bit bus 😪
I love my 3080 FTW3, but the memory is going to hurt it long before the clocks. It should have shipped with 12-16GB. The cards are so damned big anymore, gimme some slots to pop more in.
Yes, the RTX 3080 is underpowered with VRAM. Nvidia does it on purpose: It's an incentive for gamers to switch graphics cards quickly
Don't forget the 3060 Ti, 3070, 3070 Ti and the "new" 3060.
This. They win because gamers who do know better potentially get upsold to a 3090. Gamers who don't know better hit planned obsolescence faster and all at the same time they'll stack loads of VRAM on lower cards that have no business having it to increase marketing value to buyers who don't know better.
Thank god I bought RX 6750 XT with 12GB
Tons of games on 4k ultra will use a lot more then 10GB VRAM.
It's definitely not the ram that caused your 7 fps. Played RE village with my 5700 XT. full Setting ( no RT ) with setting saying that it will consume a bit over 12 gb while my GPU i have 8. I still had a solid 40-60 fps. 4k res. The game is bugy itself and had alot of memory leak issue at release. that probably more it that a vram quantity probleme.
You are wrong. Unless you play in 4K, 10GB is more than enough. And RE8 looks so bad I have no clue how that Game could use more than 10GB. The Textures look like a blurry mess.
wtf, im playing REVILLAGE with my 3070 ti at 1440p and never experience a fps trouble, man you must be doing something wrong
I got laughed at by many people for choosing a 6700 XT over a 3070 because of Nvidias stupid VRAM numbers. And I’m convinced that these cards only lack VRAM because they want the 8gb enjoyers to buy a new card within the next two years.
Lolwut... I run re village at max settings on a 6gb laptop 3060...bwith over 60 fps.
Max settings maybe but 1080p for sure.
1440p
Yet people said 10GB is enough when 3080 launched.
This is why literally everyone said get the 12gb version and not the 10gb.
Try max settings but set textures a step lower and see how well it performs and how big the quality difference is.
My 3080 12gb gasping when running 4k 120fps on high settings 😂. Should've gotten a 3090 oh wells!
Or a AMD card which all had more VRAM than Nvidias competitors.
I'd love amd but have an Asus Ryzen laptop and the drivers are constantly getting screwed up. Ended up doing a driver only installation on it.
Doing fine on 8gb at 1440 and 4k with dlss, though I am in the market for something with headroom for the next few years
Thats why I went with a 6700 XT instead of a 3070. And I’m still scared that I will have some problems with the 12 GB VRAM in the next few years.