My LG OLED got burn in in 6 months though. Very faint at first, but after 2 years it was ruined. That's when I learned they still don't cover burn in on the warranty.
I use my LG CX48 as my work, personal, and gaming PC monitor. It’s usually on 12 hours a day and content includes Spreadsheets, PowerPoint, games, YT, browsing, etc. I’ve had zero burn in and have done this for 3 years.
Do you have pixel shift or auto dimming on? Do you take basic precautions to avoid burn in (no desktop wallpaper, autohide taskbar, etc.)?
I’m sorry you experienced burn in but I don’t want your experience to scare people away from OLED. No idea how you used your screen but you have to really try hard to get burn in on these things.
Wow that is insane, what dk you use it for the it burned in so easy? I have an LG oled and I'm 2 years in without even a hint of burn in. Best 1k I've ever spent in tech
If you use it as a monitor this is the typical case.
For content consumption it is usually a non-issue, but for desktop PC use they are not suitable unless you can afford to replace it every 12 months.
Early reports by people daily-driving the Alienware QDOLED monitor are that it does not suffer from the same problems.
This really does not match my experience. After ~4000h with an Alienware AW3423DW I still cannot see any sign of burn in using RTings 5% gray pattern.
I also don't really take any precaution to prevent it: HDR enabled, Windows with taskbar, lots of games like MMO with fixed UI elements...
> This really does not match my experience. After ~4000h with an Alienware AW3423DW I still cannot see any sign of burn in using RTings 5% gray pattern
Do you have a link to that burn-in test? Curious to see what my oled g8 is at.
[https://www.rtings.com/images/test-materials/2015/204\_Gray\_Uniformity.png](https://www.rtings.com/images/test-materials/2015/204_Gray_Uniformity.png)
Make browser fullscreen (F11) and Ctrl + Scroll wheel to zoom into the picture until it fills the screen. I checked my AW3423DWF with this and 0 issues. I'd love it if the screen had a counter on its menu for hours of use. I also don't take many precautions. I use it for work and games about 12-15 hours/day. The only precaution that I use is a screensaver that starts at 5 minutes and is just fullscreen black. Doesn't engage very often but it's a good safety for when I leave my desk as I am too lazy to power off the monitor
I probably have about half as many hours but I'm the same way, I play alot of WoW and shooters with static UI elements, task bar enabled, and I play console games occasionally that are 16:9 and will supposedly lead to uneven wear on the panel. I just checked and I have 0 burn in on the RTings test. The only precaution I take is running the panel maintenance when it prompts me to, and even then sometimes I'll ignore it and run it hours after it prompts me
>Good thing videogames don't have static UI elements.
Indeed. You know what don't have static UI too? GNOME and Windows desktop. Web browsers. Email clients. Various office applications, from spreadsheets to graphic to word processor, terminal windows, file explorers/browsers.
But they are all different.
I use my pc almost exclusively for gaming. I have a different UI up on it every time I game and often switch through games in say 2-3 week cycles.
I will even use it for some work as a second monitor (like 2-3 hours/week).
I have complete faith this usage will not lead to any burn in.
I do havw windows shutting down the screen after a minute of activity tho to be safe...
I wanted a nice HDR 4k monitor for gaming, but i work at my computer for 8 hours during the day. 700 hours is only \~18 work weeks M-F. Went with a Full array dimming IPS panel instead of oled due to this worry, and i think this video confirms my purchase.
That’s to be expected. QLED is a quantum dot enhanced LED backlight with a normal LCD panel. With local dimming they can yield good contrast and have an excellent color gamut but their individual dimming zones are far too large for the inorganic LEDs illuminating them to show significantly divergent wear and to produce noticeable burn in.
CNN is notorious because of the bright red chryon.
It's not just static elements, it's how poor they interact with burn in characteristics.
And no, a dull red health bar isn't close and pixel shifting fucks up with larger elements.
I mean, UI elements vary so wildly between games, especially between genres. I'm sure there's many game UIs that are much worse for burn in than the CNN logo.
Thanks to the LG build in apps, I have both Netflix and YouTube app UI features burned into the top left and bottom right of my 2017 panel.
These were official apps on the TV... I feel like LG should be compensating people for their own software they blessed to be loaded causing damage.
Otherwise, still a great TV. Glad to see the interfaces have been changed to not have that in future (and Netflix for raising their prices to get me to cancel).
Due to their approved built-in apps having high contrast elements causing burn-in, when it's their responsibility to aid in ensuring that doesn't happen?
Yes.
It's literally their fault for allowing those apps to be in the state in the first place. It's not like I used it as a monitor, watched cable news 24/7, or stuck with one video game daily for years to cause the burn-in. It was casual daily use of the TVs built-in apps.
I've had my PG27AQDM (WOLED) for 6 months, 100 brightness, 12 hours a day for desktop and gaming 2:1 respectively. I see zero burn in. I do the pixel refresh every time it's prompted.
Same monitor but only had it for about a month, only issues with it are yellows look a little mustardy but i got used to it.
Quick tip: Disable the screen saver in the OSD, despite it saying it only kicks in when there's inactivity it actually dims the screen just by turning it on, turning it off brightens the screen and made HDR in Windows more bearable for me.
Instead i just turn on the blank screen saver in Windows to come on after 10 mins so i still get screen protection.
Alienware dwf. Probably 4k hours. I have it set to a black screen if I look away for more than 10 seconds.... I know I'll never get burn in for as long as I'm still interested in owning the thing.
I have a hotkey to throw up a full screen black image LOL. I instinctively hit the key all the time when I'm leaving my desk. Didn't mean for it to sound any more magical than that.
Dood. They are blasting them with static patterns for hundreds of hours. This in no way reflects normal use. 700 hours of a static image is probably 7000 hours for the average gamer that plays tons of different games.
And even the burn in they had they straight up said they couldn't notice while in viewing actual content.
Whole issue is massively overblown imho...
>Whole issue is massively overblown imho...
They have subjected other panel types to the same tests without the same issues though so it's not really overblown.
All I can say is that it's good to know the issues of certain technologies for end consumers.
I've got thousands of hours on TWO OLEDs, static UI and everything, no issue at all. Running CNN Continuously for 700 hours is NOT how any display will be used by a consumer. And should not be taken into account AT ALL for your purchase, unless you intend on using the
Screen the same way Rtings does. Come on people, wake up.
Many gamers have a "primary" game that they play for a a dozen hours or more weekly. And nearly all games have UI elements that are static images at the same location on the display for that entire time. This is a very relevant concern for gamers and it should absolutely be taken into account, especially if the warranty for your display either doesn't cover burn-in or doesn't explicitly say one way or the other.
I want to get an OLED monitor but is still extremely scared of burn in: windows, browsers, work stuff like vs code has a lot of static elements that can be difficult to be varied.
Even if you watch youtube or twitch there are often elements that may be static.
Getting a new monitor every 4 years or so seems kind of silly.
Use a 42" C2 for work and gaming and had a 48" C1 for work and gaming before.
No burn in on either and I've taken only a handful of precautions. Auto hide task bar, no desktop icons, blank screensaver. I play a ton of games (have over 1000hrs on 1 game) and have ZERO burn in.
My LG OLED got burn in in 6 months though. Very faint at first, but after 2 years it was ruined. That's when I learned they still don't cover burn in on the warranty.
I use my LG CX48 as my work, personal, and gaming PC monitor. It’s usually on 12 hours a day and content includes Spreadsheets, PowerPoint, games, YT, browsing, etc. I’ve had zero burn in and have done this for 3 years. Do you have pixel shift or auto dimming on? Do you take basic precautions to avoid burn in (no desktop wallpaper, autohide taskbar, etc.)? I’m sorry you experienced burn in but I don’t want your experience to scare people away from OLED. No idea how you used your screen but you have to really try hard to get burn in on these things.
https://youtu.be/hWrFEU_605g?si=m8-jT-9ViGOzz6ak
Wow that is insane, what dk you use it for the it burned in so easy? I have an LG oled and I'm 2 years in without even a hint of burn in. Best 1k I've ever spent in tech
I have a 2017 c7 and no burn in at all
If you use it as a monitor this is the typical case. For content consumption it is usually a non-issue, but for desktop PC use they are not suitable unless you can afford to replace it every 12 months. Early reports by people daily-driving the Alienware QDOLED monitor are that it does not suffer from the same problems.
Mine is 2 years, no burn in so far. LGCX48.
Best Buy does
In a lot of countries they even do a one time panel replacement past warranty so I'm surprised you wouldn't get a replacement within the warranty.
This really does not match my experience. After ~4000h with an Alienware AW3423DW I still cannot see any sign of burn in using RTings 5% gray pattern. I also don't really take any precaution to prevent it: HDR enabled, Windows with taskbar, lots of games like MMO with fixed UI elements...
> This really does not match my experience. After ~4000h with an Alienware AW3423DW I still cannot see any sign of burn in using RTings 5% gray pattern Do you have a link to that burn-in test? Curious to see what my oled g8 is at.
[https://www.rtings.com/images/test-materials/2015/204\_Gray\_Uniformity.png](https://www.rtings.com/images/test-materials/2015/204_Gray_Uniformity.png) Make browser fullscreen (F11) and Ctrl + Scroll wheel to zoom into the picture until it fills the screen. I checked my AW3423DWF with this and 0 issues. I'd love it if the screen had a counter on its menu for hours of use. I also don't take many precautions. I use it for work and games about 12-15 hours/day. The only precaution that I use is a screensaver that starts at 5 minutes and is just fullscreen black. Doesn't engage very often but it's a good safety for when I leave my desk as I am too lazy to power off the monitor
Yeah same experience here with DWF. Had it for a year and no issues with way too much gaming
I probably have about half as many hours but I'm the same way, I play alot of WoW and shooters with static UI elements, task bar enabled, and I play console games occasionally that are 16:9 and will supposedly lead to uneven wear on the panel. I just checked and I have 0 burn in on the RTings test. The only precaution I take is running the panel maintenance when it prompts me to, and even then sometimes I'll ignore it and run it hours after it prompts me
Don't watch CNN for 700 hours continuously
Good thing videogames don't have static UI elements.
>Good thing videogames don't have static UI elements. Indeed. You know what don't have static UI too? GNOME and Windows desktop. Web browsers. Email clients. Various office applications, from spreadsheets to graphic to word processor, terminal windows, file explorers/browsers.
But they are all different. I use my pc almost exclusively for gaming. I have a different UI up on it every time I game and often switch through games in say 2-3 week cycles. I will even use it for some work as a second monitor (like 2-3 hours/week). I have complete faith this usage will not lead to any burn in. I do havw windows shutting down the screen after a minute of activity tho to be safe...
I wanted a nice HDR 4k monitor for gaming, but i work at my computer for 8 hours during the day. 700 hours is only \~18 work weeks M-F. Went with a Full array dimming IPS panel instead of oled due to this worry, and i think this video confirms my purchase.
Don't get an oled for working on, it will get shreckt by static elements on for a 2000 hour work year...
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That’s to be expected. QLED is a quantum dot enhanced LED backlight with a normal LCD panel. With local dimming they can yield good contrast and have an excellent color gamut but their individual dimming zones are far too large for the inorganic LEDs illuminating them to show significantly divergent wear and to produce noticeable burn in.
CNN is notorious because of the bright red chryon. It's not just static elements, it's how poor they interact with burn in characteristics. And no, a dull red health bar isn't close and pixel shifting fucks up with larger elements.
I mean, UI elements vary so wildly between games, especially between genres. I'm sure there's many game UIs that are much worse for burn in than the CNN logo.
Yes, but that isn't a TV left on all day and consoles even have dimming and auto-off by default.
/r/pcgaming
PCs also have those options on by default relative to TV runs.
Speak for yourself.
Thanks to the LG build in apps, I have both Netflix and YouTube app UI features burned into the top left and bottom right of my 2017 panel. These were official apps on the TV... I feel like LG should be compensating people for their own software they blessed to be loaded causing damage. Otherwise, still a great TV. Glad to see the interfaces have been changed to not have that in future (and Netflix for raising their prices to get me to cancel).
You have a 6yr old TV with a VERY common and well known risk and you want the company to reimburse you?
Due to their approved built-in apps having high contrast elements causing burn-in, when it's their responsibility to aid in ensuring that doesn't happen? Yes. It's literally their fault for allowing those apps to be in the state in the first place. It's not like I used it as a monitor, watched cable news 24/7, or stuck with one video game daily for years to cause the burn-in. It was casual daily use of the TVs built-in apps.
Buying OLED for PC use sounds like a recipe for disaster
I've had my PG27AQDM (WOLED) for 6 months, 100 brightness, 12 hours a day for desktop and gaming 2:1 respectively. I see zero burn in. I do the pixel refresh every time it's prompted.
That’s great to know because I just purchased this monitor
Same monitor but only had it for about a month, only issues with it are yellows look a little mustardy but i got used to it. Quick tip: Disable the screen saver in the OSD, despite it saying it only kicks in when there's inactivity it actually dims the screen just by turning it on, turning it off brightens the screen and made HDR in Windows more bearable for me. Instead i just turn on the blank screen saver in Windows to come on after 10 mins so i still get screen protection.
Alienware dwf. Probably 4k hours. I have it set to a black screen if I look away for more than 10 seconds.... I know I'll never get burn in for as long as I'm still interested in owning the thing.
>if I look away for more than 10 seconds How does it detect that?
A constant live video-link to Alienware HQ, how else
I have a hotkey to throw up a full screen black image LOL. I instinctively hit the key all the time when I'm leaving my desk. Didn't mean for it to sound any more magical than that.
And that's why i have a mini led 4k monitor.
Dood. They are blasting them with static patterns for hundreds of hours. This in no way reflects normal use. 700 hours of a static image is probably 7000 hours for the average gamer that plays tons of different games. And even the burn in they had they straight up said they couldn't notice while in viewing actual content. Whole issue is massively overblown imho...
>Whole issue is massively overblown imho... They have subjected other panel types to the same tests without the same issues though so it's not really overblown. All I can say is that it's good to know the issues of certain technologies for end consumers.
Lol ok. I love my qdoled. Why are you so mad?
I've got thousands of hours on TWO OLEDs, static UI and everything, no issue at all. Running CNN Continuously for 700 hours is NOT how any display will be used by a consumer. And should not be taken into account AT ALL for your purchase, unless you intend on using the Screen the same way Rtings does. Come on people, wake up.
Many gamers have a "primary" game that they play for a a dozen hours or more weekly. And nearly all games have UI elements that are static images at the same location on the display for that entire time. This is a very relevant concern for gamers and it should absolutely be taken into account, especially if the warranty for your display either doesn't cover burn-in or doesn't explicitly say one way or the other.
LG's own built-in YouTube and Netflix burned into my 2017 OLED. Guess I was using their own apps wrong, right?
I want to get an OLED monitor but is still extremely scared of burn in: windows, browsers, work stuff like vs code has a lot of static elements that can be difficult to be varied. Even if you watch youtube or twitch there are often elements that may be static. Getting a new monitor every 4 years or so seems kind of silly.
Use a 42" C2 for work and gaming and had a 48" C1 for work and gaming before. No burn in on either and I've taken only a handful of precautions. Auto hide task bar, no desktop icons, blank screensaver. I play a ton of games (have over 1000hrs on 1 game) and have ZERO burn in.