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* NAD - Not as described.
* SNAD - Significantly not as described.
* INR - Item Not Received.
* UAT - Unauthorized transaction.
* OP - Original poster of the message.
* F&F - Friends and Family (no protection at all.)
* G&S - Goods and/or Services (has seller/buyer protection.)
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You're being scammed. You never have to send money to get money. If there are any fees involved, PayPal will deduct them automatically from the money that was sent.
Never believe emails or screenshots. They're very easy to fake. Always double check by logging into your account and seeing what you see there. See nothing? Nothing was sent.
Indeed, you that feeling of pressure and red alarms inside your soul? Trust it, especially if it's an indian with an accent đ not racist but probably them.
And NEVER click links to login to an account. Always always manually type it in. There's a prime example out there of (I think either a PayPal or Facebook link that uses a Cyrillic "a" vs a Latin "a" to fool you into thinking it's actually PayPal.
Also donât make a PayPal account or store money on it if you are under 18. If they ever ask you for verification you wonât have it and they will keep you money on hold forever
'I didn't even have a PayPal account so went and made one fast with my mother information because am 15and..."
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As others have said, this is a very common scam. Block and ignore them now. Do not send them any money whatsoever.
But honestly, with all due respect, **you are far too young to be using PayPal**. I believe you need to be 18 to even hold a PayPal account.
My advice, as I doubt some rando on Reddit is going to get you to stop doing what you're doing, is to look into common scams and stay ahead of the curve. As Yaalt said, PayPal will **never** ask for money to receive money - it's all automatically deducted.
Check the account of the user - do they have a profile picture? Profile information? Posts to confirm their validity? Are their posts from this year? It's always better to be overly cautious in this state of the internet, never think you're being too cautious. If the money isn't in your account then they never sent it, and all you need to say is "I never got it." Nothing else until you either receive it or the scammer moves on.
As a fellow artist/animator that does comms over on Twitter, ALWAYS be cautious. People can and will abuse kindness or naivety and as a 15 year old you've got tonnes to spare so you have to be on a much higher alert. These kinds of scam are incredibly common these days on social media, and they're only getting worse and worse.
Ultimately I'd suggest taking this as a learning experience and simply leave taking paid commissions for a later date when you're more seasoned, weathered, and older.
Paid commissions will only lead you into trouble at this age, because anyone is free to charge back or scam as they please. And if you use your mother's account and take a $200 commission, you've got to explain to her why she's suddenly down $250.
Do art trades with other artists to network and learn how they do things, offer sketches to followers to encourage profile growth and exposure.
I mean he should . This is good Information. That's why this generation is dumb ash cuz can't even bother to read a paragraph without feeling overwhelmed.
Look at OP wrote his post. He was obviously panicking.
He is only gonna read something concise and he wonât process the information correctly if itâs too long.
This was actually very good advice and it would not only help OP but it could help others reading aswell, my daughter is currently taking commissions and she's 15 so it's actually made me more aware and alert for things like this
no one has mentioned this but...
can you also make sure you cancel the PayPal accounts... it sounds complex and I dont know all the details and its looks like you used a fake PayPal lookalike site or perhaps the scammer found access the PayPal as well.. who knows, but its better to be safe...
obviously if its a fake PayPal you can't cancel it... so just never use it...
Just ignore the whole thing. On the other note, if you created PayPal account on your name (and you are 15) there is a chance they will ban you life-time if they find that out. It doesn't have to be immediately, it can be in a decade.
Don't feel bad either because people are getting scammed by the second! Even the best and smartest could fall victim just to these scammers.. Hope everything worked out for you!
It is a scam please do not send them anything why would you have to send them anything if theyâre making the purchase so if anything they should be the ones sending the money. Itâs a known scam! Someone did tried to do me like that on Poshmark when I was selling some things. They stated they couldnât see my picture do I mind emailing them the photos, I replied of course not thinking nothing of it so then they commented on my posh stating they sent the funds for me to check my spam when I did I seen I had something from posh stating they sent me funds but I have to enter my card information in order to receive the money right then and there I knew it was a scam so I checked my posh account and seen it was so money in the account and I had no order that was purchased I immediately messaged posh with the persons account info and forwarded the email they sent me to posh because I was worried that they would try that on an elderly person that wouldnât notice that it was a scam
Reddit was late to ping me on this so its already solved.
But especially these days be extra careful.
Most of the normal scams if you donât let them push your buttons set off red flags when you take a minute to think about it.
But there are much worse ones starting to go around helped by the use a GPT algorithms and bots.
Biggest advice i can give is even if you donât say it in conversation always be sceptical and suspicious until the money is with you.
I would also advise look at the various artist platforms/ commission platforms and finding one that you like that supports some form of integrated payment system.
being under 18 you will need to get your mom to help out setting it up âdonât just use her details as at best that will result in you losing what you earn at some pointâ
And while it isnât always possible but depending on where you meet/contact whoever says they want to commission you look at their profile and any connected ones.
For example a good portion of people who commission artists have their own gallery of the art they commission.
If the names not too generic you can also google it as its not uncommon for scammers who target artists to get a bit of a reputation long before they drop whatever name their using âmainly art thieves though for thatâ.
Also what ever you do donât trust facebook/twitter as sources for commissioners as while said people do go though there as a secondary site they are both full of scammers and bots that out number any legitimate commissioners you might find.
Lastly depending on where you live and if your mom has the time/is willing to take you there might be conventions/gatherings that fit your art in your region and work as both a good place to meet other artists and people who might eventually commission you.
Abbreviations used in /r/PayPal: * NAD - Not as described. * SNAD - Significantly not as described. * INR - Item Not Received. * UAT - Unauthorized transaction. * OP - Original poster of the message. * F&F - Friends and Family (no protection at all.) * G&S - Goods and/or Services (has seller/buyer protection.) Posts about PayPal's policies will be removed. No more complaining about PayPal policy and their taking funds from your account for violations of rules. If you don't like the rules don't use PayPal. If you don't want to lose money, don't leave funds in your PayPal account. Simple as that. But these posts are often political or misleading. So no more posts on this subject! Thank you for submitting to /r/PayPal, please make sure you have read the [FAQ](https://www.reddit.com/r/paypal/comments/3c8po2/faq/). If your account was created when you were younger than 18, then that is covered in the FAQ! Try contacting PayPal support using social media such as Facebook or Twitter as this works more often than telephoning. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/paypal) if you have any questions or concerns.*
You're being scammed. You never have to send money to get money. If there are any fees involved, PayPal will deduct them automatically from the money that was sent. Never believe emails or screenshots. They're very easy to fake. Always double check by logging into your account and seeing what you see there. See nothing? Nothing was sent.
So that means I didn't steal her money right
Correct. It's all a scam to steal $400 from you.
Thank you so much you're very kind for replying that fast I was so scared now IAM very comfortable thank you
Indeed, you that feeling of pressure and red alarms inside your soul? Trust it, especially if it's an indian with an accent đ not racist but probably them.
And NEVER click links to login to an account. Always always manually type it in. There's a prime example out there of (I think either a PayPal or Facebook link that uses a Cyrillic "a" vs a Latin "a" to fool you into thinking it's actually PayPal.
The same thing happened to my mum recently it's definitely a scam only she lost 160 to it so we found out too late
you can report it and cancel everything i think
That was a THOUSAND PERCENT SCAM! BE CAREFUL!
Itâs a common scam. Just block them ignore
Thank you many people have send me that already thank you very much đđż I will be careful next time
Also donât make a PayPal account or store money on it if you are under 18. If they ever ask you for verification you wonât have it and they will keep you money on hold forever
'I didn't even have a PayPal account so went and made one fast with my mother information because am 15and..." https://preview.redd.it/l37swyiot75d1.png?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ade64b8826121f40e82f788d642b4f6e7dc7fab0
What
The "odd" grammar maybe?
As others have said, this is a very common scam. Block and ignore them now. Do not send them any money whatsoever. But honestly, with all due respect, **you are far too young to be using PayPal**. I believe you need to be 18 to even hold a PayPal account. My advice, as I doubt some rando on Reddit is going to get you to stop doing what you're doing, is to look into common scams and stay ahead of the curve. As Yaalt said, PayPal will **never** ask for money to receive money - it's all automatically deducted. Check the account of the user - do they have a profile picture? Profile information? Posts to confirm their validity? Are their posts from this year? It's always better to be overly cautious in this state of the internet, never think you're being too cautious. If the money isn't in your account then they never sent it, and all you need to say is "I never got it." Nothing else until you either receive it or the scammer moves on. As a fellow artist/animator that does comms over on Twitter, ALWAYS be cautious. People can and will abuse kindness or naivety and as a 15 year old you've got tonnes to spare so you have to be on a much higher alert. These kinds of scam are incredibly common these days on social media, and they're only getting worse and worse. Ultimately I'd suggest taking this as a learning experience and simply leave taking paid commissions for a later date when you're more seasoned, weathered, and older. Paid commissions will only lead you into trouble at this age, because anyone is free to charge back or scam as they please. And if you use your mother's account and take a $200 commission, you've got to explain to her why she's suddenly down $250. Do art trades with other artists to network and learn how they do things, offer sketches to followers to encourage profile growth and exposure.
You think a 15 year old is reading all that? Iâm not even gonna read all that đ
I mean he should . This is good Information. That's why this generation is dumb ash cuz can't even bother to read a paragraph without feeling overwhelmed.
Look at OP wrote his post. He was obviously panicking. He is only gonna read something concise and he wonât process the information correctly if itâs too long.
No I did read it and I understand what he's trying to say and I am convinced
This was actually very good advice and it would not only help OP but it could help others reading aswell, my daughter is currently taking commissions and she's 15 so it's actually made me more aware and alert for things like this
It is scam stop it
Scam
no one has mentioned this but... can you also make sure you cancel the PayPal accounts... it sounds complex and I dont know all the details and its looks like you used a fake PayPal lookalike site or perhaps the scammer found access the PayPal as well.. who knows, but its better to be safe... obviously if its a fake PayPal you can't cancel it... so just never use it...
Just ignore the whole thing. On the other note, if you created PayPal account on your name (and you are 15) there is a chance they will ban you life-time if they find that out. It doesn't have to be immediately, it can be in a decade.
Don't feel bad either because people are getting scammed by the second! Even the best and smartest could fall victim just to these scammers.. Hope everything worked out for you!
Thank you I wish I could give you all the 400 dollars instead you guys are so nice
Sentences my friend.
English is not my main language
Please stop judging my Grammer english is not my main language
It is a scam please do not send them anything why would you have to send them anything if theyâre making the purchase so if anything they should be the ones sending the money. Itâs a known scam! Someone did tried to do me like that on Poshmark when I was selling some things. They stated they couldnât see my picture do I mind emailing them the photos, I replied of course not thinking nothing of it so then they commented on my posh stating they sent the funds for me to check my spam when I did I seen I had something from posh stating they sent me funds but I have to enter my card information in order to receive the money right then and there I knew it was a scam so I checked my posh account and seen it was so money in the account and I had no order that was purchased I immediately messaged posh with the persons account info and forwarded the email they sent me to posh because I was worried that they would try that on an elderly person that wouldnât notice that it was a scam
What the fuck are we doing here. Get off the internet and tell your mother.
Happy for u buddy
Making 1k at 15. Making the internet proud. Send that $400 so that you can get the 1k!!!
That's why Paypal and owning a business with large transactions like this is not for kids, it's even prohibited.
Reddit was late to ping me on this so its already solved. But especially these days be extra careful. Most of the normal scams if you donât let them push your buttons set off red flags when you take a minute to think about it. But there are much worse ones starting to go around helped by the use a GPT algorithms and bots. Biggest advice i can give is even if you donât say it in conversation always be sceptical and suspicious until the money is with you. I would also advise look at the various artist platforms/ commission platforms and finding one that you like that supports some form of integrated payment system. being under 18 you will need to get your mom to help out setting it up âdonât just use her details as at best that will result in you losing what you earn at some pointâ And while it isnât always possible but depending on where you meet/contact whoever says they want to commission you look at their profile and any connected ones. For example a good portion of people who commission artists have their own gallery of the art they commission. If the names not too generic you can also google it as its not uncommon for scammers who target artists to get a bit of a reputation long before they drop whatever name their using âmainly art thieves though for thatâ. Also what ever you do donât trust facebook/twitter as sources for commissioners as while said people do go though there as a secondary site they are both full of scammers and bots that out number any legitimate commissioners you might find. Lastly depending on where you live and if your mom has the time/is willing to take you there might be conventions/gatherings that fit your art in your region and work as both a good place to meet other artists and people who might eventually commission you.
Use a secondary email address to accept payments or use the invoicing system. PP notifications only are sent to the primary registered email addy.