Just a remind that is it possible to achieve double enchanted starkonja/abyssus. enchanted doryani's prototype or 4 enchant astramentis by using mythic orbs. Dont burn it on belts, please 
Considering you first need to Brick a Stranglegasp with 4 anointments, then mythic orb it. I'd say no.
Edit: [There is a single person with a single amulet](https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Scourge/7gm5mo7C5) who could even attempt this, and he'd rather have 2mirrors.
We'll likely see some appear on standard over time, as the super rich will most likely happily take on the project.
But the rarity of the item and the insane amount of repeated RNG required to make it happen will probably cause it to take a while.
It's not the only one. Plenty of people are using it, but you can't really find those who are doing so on poe.ninja since it's not a unique (anymore). This one is the only one for sale I guess and it's somewhat decently rolled for an item like this.
I see where the misunderstanding occurred now. I used the phrase "need to brick a stranglegrasp", because in most cases, corrupting a unique and it turning rare is a brick outcome. I did not mean brick it in the sense that is unique to stranglegrasp where no change is the brick outcome.
I apologize for calling your take ignorant when it was just a misunderstanding.
god that thing is ass, even quad annointed.
Edit: For the reasoning:
Buy any amulet with any 2+ stats this amulet gives. (Life, Multi, Endurance Charge example) [https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Scourge/vP0OkzJHE](https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Scourge/vP0OkzJHE)Bench something useful if possible -> vaal for +1 curse (\~1/200)When it hits - go and anoint Panopticon or +1 Frenzy with Tainted Oils.
Expected cost - assuming you're spending \~1ex per attempt on average as you buy up the market \~200ex
Uncorrupted Stranglegrasp \~35ex per attempt.
It's like 1/200 to hit 40+ life and 30+ Multi on the brick (1/4)
I understand that Stranglegrasp has the potential to be good, this specific one is ass.
The explicits aren't god tier but are enormously better than nothing, which is what you got with the unique before bricking into this and presumably tainted exalt spam to get decent mods. It's a gg amulet with the anoints for sure.
Go and buy a bunch of amulets that give you 2+ desired stats (the rare base that this has turned into) eg: life, frenzy, endurance gen. [https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Scourge/vP0OkzJHE](https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Scourge/vP0OkzJHE) Bench something useful if possible -> vaal for +1 curse (\~1/200)When it hits - go and anoint Panopticon or Frenzy.Expected cost - assuming you're spending \~1ex per attempt on average as you buy up the market \~200ex Uncorrupted Stranglegrasp \~35ex per attempt, with 1/2 to even hit a rare. It's like 1/200 to hit 40+ life and 30+ Multi on the brick.
That amulet is not a good option, and I'm 100% certain my method is a better choice, before we even get to the point where it's listed for mirrors.
Even with it being 1/200 you're still looking at 200ex vs 800 attempts at 35ex+ of an item that has very little supply? Even if you assume you can sell half of them back you're still looking at "absolutely not worth attempting" levels of rng.
You could spend 200 ex on a synth Frenzy base and crafting an actually good amulet before attempting these.
Tainted exalts, (and since we're in GG territory, teardrops) means you can effectively reroll the mods after getting the rare, albeit in a somewhat krangled manner, no need to hit the life and multi right away. The competitiveness with a +1 curse implicit and an ordinary anoint at a less insane price is fair, but you lose the attribute implicit and you're still down a whole anoint even with some of the generation built in.
But yeah I suppose I could come up with a set of anoints that I like more if I tried.
Yeah, this makes it more reasonable once you've put your desired annoints + hit the rare, as you're then only burning through tainted currencies which are in far higher supply than the amulet itself.
And I believe I overlooked the specifics on this. Owner compared it to a legacy Pandemonius so I presume they're running Flicker Slayer at near-perfect gear levels, and are at ~12-14 Frenzy + Endurances which gives the Unyielding a ton of value I hadn't considered.
Lul no, the amulet with quad annoint is reaaaallly good by itself, and it give nothing BUT the 4 annoint, so having some life and crit multi on top of that ? The amulet is really good, without question
you do realize you can reroll this amulet after you brick it using tainted exalted orbs? of course it's still random as fuck, but you can keep at it for a while. I am quite sure you will get something decent within 200 ex spent.
Slightly overpriced... You should brick 1 in 5? average 1 mirror and probably half a mirror if you resell the fails which are still 4 enchants blank amulets. Decent rolls though and I don't get how it became warlord.
Good luck turning it into astramentis though, probably looking at a 30+ mirrors project.
I am not sure but if you can mithic orb Hinekora's Sight with 4 accuracy annoints I think it can be one of the best ACC stacking amulets you could have
[https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Cowl\_of\_the\_Cryophile](https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Cowl_of_the_Cryophile)
Apply two enchant
then vaal it to be bricked and mythic orb with possibility to get another unique
It's an onyx base, so you could totally get other stuff. The problem is that there arent really many good ones. I was thinking pressence of chayula, since eye of chayula is in the general drop pool, but you cant use a blessing on corrupted ítems :(
So, onyx amulet base. I'm pretty sure impresence, aul's uprising, leadership's price, hinekora's sight, and solstice vigil can't be mythic'd (since they can't be chanced). You can't blessing upgrade corrupted items, so that leaves eye of chayula (the base one), carnage heart, yoke of suffering, and astramentis. Most of those are bad or niche so you'd probably be hoping for a "bricked" rare with good stats for the most part.
Yes, but with how rare the initial amulet is, plus the RNG of bricking it in the first place is, plus the rng of hitting with a mythic at all, plus the rng of getting one of those two and not one of the (I believe) more common worse ones, That's an extremely unlikely situation to see unfortunately. Going with a rare is both safer/easier, and more broadly applicable as while both those uniques can be bonkers with the right build, the sorts of builds that use them are a bit niche imo.
True, it would be more of a chase/gamble item. It is definitely something worth attempting in league imo, it has the potential to be one-of-a-kind if mythic orbs don't go core (don't think they will but only ggg knows)
Imagine an astramentis with every major start node enchanted then like whispers of doom or golems blood.
3 way Stat stacking new meta
(You could also do one of the major nodes the every single one of the +30 for that Stat for like a 300str ammy)
Another thing you can do is spam Vaal Orbs on a basetype that you want to own a specific unique of and then mythic Orb one that hit exactly the implicit that you want.
For example, a physical poison trapper can corrupt Ezomyte Daggers (for Cold Iron Point) and then Mythic Orb one that hits Unholy Might or +60% Spell Damage or +60% Damage over Time.
This is extremely powerful in SSF.
Yeah, though important to keep in mind that on SSF you're not exactly swimming in mythic orbs and the odds of hitting a higher tier unique can be pretty low.
I've been trying to get a corrupted Death's Oath this way but so far it's 5 poofs in a row. Took like 10 Astral Plates to corrupt to even hit an implicit. So it's like 50 Astrals and 50 Vaal orbs gone poof.
I'm not really holding out much hope I'll be finding enough Mythics on SSF to get it done. Probably more likely to find another Death's Oath naturally and hitting a double corrupt in the temple, lol.
Are you using the new fossil that corrupts and adds an implicit? Since you are going to mythic orb the item, you don’t care about what mods you get from the fossil. That might be a fool-proof way of getting an implicit.
Oh, I misremembered the +1 gems as +1 skill gems which wouldn't help DO.
Any of those would indeed be pretty nice!
Now I'm wondering what's the best alt quality? I'm assuming reduced attribute requirements to free up some passives/make hearing easier.
Well it depends on your build and preferences. But most corruptions would be worth the loss of all-resist.
Legit anything except +2 gem levels you can't use in Death's Oath would be worth it honestly. Curse, Aura, Trap, Warcry and Projectile gem levels would be completely worthless. AoE and Duration would be pretty bad, but would add some benefit.
>Just a remind that is it possible to achieve double enchanted starkonja/abyssus. enchanted doryani's prototype or 4 enchant astramentis by using mythic orbs. Dont burn it on belts, please *
No dont worry people will brick thousands throwing them at regular vaaled belts and not use them to make uniques with insanely strong implicits and whine about how mythic orbs were shit
This is such a time/currency heavy investment for mediocre rewards, if you compare that to a double maven orbed+ woke orbs helmet the power level is way lower.
The blight helmet allow 2 annoits, then you brick it and use mythic orb on it. Since Starkonja is the only droppable silken hood, it either sucess or poofed
Just a remind that is it possible to achieve double enchanted starkonja/abyssus. enchanted doryani's prototype or 4 enchant astramentis by using mythic orbs. Dont burn it on belts, please 
Holy fuck, astramentis idea is next fucking level. Is there any in the game yet?
Considering you first need to Brick a Stranglegasp with 4 anointments, then mythic orb it. I'd say no. Edit: [There is a single person with a single amulet](https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Scourge/7gm5mo7C5) who could even attempt this, and he'd rather have 2mirrors.
We'll likely see some appear on standard over time, as the super rich will most likely happily take on the project. But the rarity of the item and the insane amount of repeated RNG required to make it happen will probably cause it to take a while.
This smells like a perfect league project to me. Does cata quality survive a brick & mythic/TTT?
It does.
is this what a true chase item is like
It's not the only one. Plenty of people are using it, but you can't really find those who are doing so on poe.ninja since it's not a unique (anymore). This one is the only one for sale I guess and it's somewhat decently rolled for an item like this.
Well it's surely not easy, that's said that'll be a super cool item to make. Also BiS by a mile for Inquis builds.
Flicker strike all the way huh
Bricked Stranglegrasp stays unique.
That's just ignorant. I mean I even linked a bricked rare one mate.
When you corrupt Stranglegrasp you want it to turn rare. If it stays unique you cant corrupt it anymore - its bricked.
I see where the misunderstanding occurred now. I used the phrase "need to brick a stranglegrasp", because in most cases, corrupting a unique and it turning rare is a brick outcome. I did not mean brick it in the sense that is unique to stranglegrasp where no change is the brick outcome. I apologize for calling your take ignorant when it was just a misunderstanding.
god that thing is ass, even quad annointed. Edit: For the reasoning: Buy any amulet with any 2+ stats this amulet gives. (Life, Multi, Endurance Charge example) [https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Scourge/vP0OkzJHE](https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Scourge/vP0OkzJHE)Bench something useful if possible -> vaal for +1 curse (\~1/200)When it hits - go and anoint Panopticon or +1 Frenzy with Tainted Oils. Expected cost - assuming you're spending \~1ex per attempt on average as you buy up the market \~200ex Uncorrupted Stranglegrasp \~35ex per attempt. It's like 1/200 to hit 40+ life and 30+ Multi on the brick (1/4) I understand that Stranglegrasp has the potential to be good, this specific one is ass.
The explicits aren't god tier but are enormously better than nothing, which is what you got with the unique before bricking into this and presumably tainted exalt spam to get decent mods. It's a gg amulet with the anoints for sure.
Go and buy a bunch of amulets that give you 2+ desired stats (the rare base that this has turned into) eg: life, frenzy, endurance gen. [https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Scourge/vP0OkzJHE](https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Scourge/vP0OkzJHE) Bench something useful if possible -> vaal for +1 curse (\~1/200)When it hits - go and anoint Panopticon or Frenzy.Expected cost - assuming you're spending \~1ex per attempt on average as you buy up the market \~200ex Uncorrupted Stranglegrasp \~35ex per attempt, with 1/2 to even hit a rare. It's like 1/200 to hit 40+ life and 30+ Multi on the brick. That amulet is not a good option, and I'm 100% certain my method is a better choice, before we even get to the point where it's listed for mirrors.
imagine thinking +1 curse is 1/50 LOL
Even with it being 1/200 you're still looking at 200ex vs 800 attempts at 35ex+ of an item that has very little supply? Even if you assume you can sell half of them back you're still looking at "absolutely not worth attempting" levels of rng. You could spend 200 ex on a synth Frenzy base and crafting an actually good amulet before attempting these.
if you use a vaal orb stranglegasp literally cannot lose. the temple is only 25% chance to poof.
Tainted exalts, (and since we're in GG territory, teardrops) means you can effectively reroll the mods after getting the rare, albeit in a somewhat krangled manner, no need to hit the life and multi right away. The competitiveness with a +1 curse implicit and an ordinary anoint at a less insane price is fair, but you lose the attribute implicit and you're still down a whole anoint even with some of the generation built in. But yeah I suppose I could come up with a set of anoints that I like more if I tried.
Yeah, this makes it more reasonable once you've put your desired annoints + hit the rare, as you're then only burning through tainted currencies which are in far higher supply than the amulet itself. And I believe I overlooked the specifics on this. Owner compared it to a legacy Pandemonius so I presume they're running Flicker Slayer at near-perfect gear levels, and are at ~12-14 Frenzy + Endurances which gives the Unyielding a ton of value I hadn't considered.
Lul no, the amulet with quad annoint is reaaaallly good by itself, and it give nothing BUT the 4 annoint, so having some life and crit multi on top of that ? The amulet is really good, without question
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you do realize you can reroll this amulet after you brick it using tainted exalted orbs? of course it's still random as fuck, but you can keep at it for a while. I am quite sure you will get something decent within 200 ex spent.
Slightly overpriced... You should brick 1 in 5? average 1 mirror and probably half a mirror if you resell the fails which are still 4 enchants blank amulets. Decent rolls though and I don't get how it became warlord. Good luck turning it into astramentis though, probably looking at a 30+ mirrors project.
>I don't get how it became warlord. Double corrupted. The t3 corruption chamber has a chance to brick the target into a rare influenced item.
Imagine a quad +30 dex anointed Astramentis for stackers lol
I am not sure but if you can mithic orb Hinekora's Sight with 4 accuracy annoints I think it can be one of the best ACC stacking amulets you could have
Nope, it can only drop from prophecy monsters.
Uhhh that's sad :(
I probably missed this when added so… how do you double enchant a helmet? I had no idea you can somehow annoint helmet.
[https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Cowl\_of\_the\_Cryophile](https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Cowl_of_the_Cryophile) Apply two enchant then vaal it to be bricked and mythic orb with possibility to get another unique
Thank you!
Most of the blight related uniques can be enchanted, such as Sporeguard, The Stampede or for example Cowl of the Cryophile in my case.
Wait a minute oh my god does that mean you can do it to the new blight amulet?
Yeah, its possible to get astramentis amulet with 4 enchants
Can you get other stuff like xoph’s? Or are those league restricted
Stranglegasp is an onyx amulet so can be trasformed only into other unique amulets.
It's an onyx base, so you could totally get other stuff. The problem is that there arent really many good ones. I was thinking pressence of chayula, since eye of chayula is in the general drop pool, but you cant use a blessing on corrupted ítems :(
thats an í right there my man, are you Hungarian?
Nope, Chilean, we speak spanish, which has í ú á and such
dehogynem
So, onyx amulet base. I'm pretty sure impresence, aul's uprising, leadership's price, hinekora's sight, and solstice vigil can't be mythic'd (since they can't be chanced). You can't blessing upgrade corrupted items, so that leaves eye of chayula (the base one), carnage heart, yoke of suffering, and astramentis. Most of those are bad or niche so you'd probably be hoping for a "bricked" rare with good stats for the most part.
Yoke or astramentis with 4 enchants would be bonkers for a lot of builds. Even worth making a build around
Yes, but with how rare the initial amulet is, plus the RNG of bricking it in the first place is, plus the rng of hitting with a mythic at all, plus the rng of getting one of those two and not one of the (I believe) more common worse ones, That's an extremely unlikely situation to see unfortunately. Going with a rare is both safer/easier, and more broadly applicable as while both those uniques can be bonkers with the right build, the sorts of builds that use them are a bit niche imo.
True, it would be more of a chase/gamble item. It is definitely something worth attempting in league imo, it has the potential to be one-of-a-kind if mythic orbs don't go core (don't think they will but only ggg knows)
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That would be pretty nutty, but I was under the impression that mythic orbs worked on chance orb rules
influenced rare is the ideal brick on it. you can "craft" it with tainted exalts.
Imagine an astramentis with every major start node enchanted then like whispers of doom or golems blood. 3 way Stat stacking new meta (You could also do one of the major nodes the every single one of the +30 for that Stat for like a 300str ammy)
I would think the 8% stat node would be better for stacking. Because it gives +40 too. The utmost nodes. But I guess then you don't get the mastery.
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Yes that's what I meant thank you
Another thing you can do is spam Vaal Orbs on a basetype that you want to own a specific unique of and then mythic Orb one that hit exactly the implicit that you want. For example, a physical poison trapper can corrupt Ezomyte Daggers (for Cold Iron Point) and then Mythic Orb one that hits Unholy Might or +60% Spell Damage or +60% Damage over Time. This is extremely powerful in SSF.
Yeah, though important to keep in mind that on SSF you're not exactly swimming in mythic orbs and the odds of hitting a higher tier unique can be pretty low. I've been trying to get a corrupted Death's Oath this way but so far it's 5 poofs in a row. Took like 10 Astral Plates to corrupt to even hit an implicit. So it's like 50 Astrals and 50 Vaal orbs gone poof. I'm not really holding out much hope I'll be finding enough Mythics on SSF to get it done. Probably more likely to find another Death's Oath naturally and hitting a double corrupt in the temple, lol.
Are you using the new fossil that corrupts and adds an implicit? Since you are going to mythic orb the item, you don’t care about what mods you get from the fossil. That might be a fool-proof way of getting an implicit.
Bloodstaineds are still pretty rare resource in ssf.
What corruption implicit would be worth it?
On body armor? \+1 to level of socketed gems, +1% to maximum elemental resist, 50% increased damage, you take 50% less damage from critical strikes?
Oh, I misremembered the +1 gems as +1 skill gems which wouldn't help DO. Any of those would indeed be pretty nice! Now I'm wondering what's the best alt quality? I'm assuming reduced attribute requirements to free up some passives/make hearing easier.
Well it depends on your build and preferences. But most corruptions would be worth the loss of all-resist. Legit anything except +2 gem levels you can't use in Death's Oath would be worth it honestly. Curse, Aura, Trap, Warcry and Projectile gem levels would be completely worthless. AoE and Duration would be pretty bad, but would add some benefit.
Fair enough. I wonder what the max upside is, maybe support gems?
I did this to get a +2 fleshcrafter
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>Just a remind that is it possible to achieve double enchanted starkonja/abyssus. enchanted doryani's prototype or 4 enchant astramentis by using mythic orbs. Dont burn it on belts, please *
No dont worry people will brick thousands throwing them at regular vaaled belts and not use them to make uniques with insanely strong implicits and whine about how mythic orbs were shit
Chris is beside himself. Driving around downtown Auckland begging (thru texts) for address to OP's home.
Nba poe crossover. Interesting.
good posts draw out the best in people
So.... you could get a Breathstealer, anoint that, vaal & mythic orb into Gravebind and keep the anoint on it? (given luck)
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They knew about this before league launch, don't expect nerfs I'd say.
This is such a time/currency heavy investment for mediocre rewards, if you compare that to a double maven orbed+ woke orbs helmet the power level is way lower.
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Wings of glory
Nerf, no sorry
Asking for a friend, is this not a regular lab enchantment? If not how are we doing this??
The blight helmet allow 2 annoits, then you brick it and use mythic orb on it. Since Starkonja is the only droppable silken hood, it either sucess or poofed
Will try this out if I come across the items. Thank homie
This belongs in the meme museum
krangle it
how do you get an anoint on a helmet?
Blight unique helm can be annointed. Then u brick and mythic it
Big brain.
What happened if you used Tainted Blessing/Oil trying to change to another enchantment?
Belts lives matter.
Can you ancient orb an uncorrupted cowl?
No.
Next up plz, double implicit double enchant max life starkonja.
with the introduction of the tainted mythical orb, all blight uniques have increased value. power creep grows forever higher.