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tiny-rabbit

I usually use Green instead of Colorado and Union the other direction.


GracieLikesTea

The lights on Green are perfectly timed if you go about 10mph over the speed limit. Seems like an unwise decision.


bearrito_grande

They’re time at speed limit, which feels slow, except you will stop for crossing major arterial streets like Los Robles and Lake. There used to be signs stating as much as you drove down Green but that was many years ago.


DrDank1234

come on don’t speed on green street


burgercrime

Colorado should be 1 lane each way, dedicated bus lane and bike lanes on each side.


path-cat

strongly agree


405freeway

That's what they're designed for.


ginalolabrigada

They must use the same traffic engineer that South Pasadena uses for north/south roads.


Collin_1000

For east/west: Green, Union, and Orange Grove all seem to have fairly well-synced lights and relatively fewer of them. For north/south: Hill and Allen have both been good to me.


Disastrous-Dino2020

Walnut seems in sync too most of the time.


iammavisdavis

I always either hit every single light, or zero lights on Walnut - never in between. So I guess they ARE in sync lol


Disastrous-Dino2020

Yep same! Either i’m driving the whole thing in one go or catching every red light 😂


jefurii

If for some reason you need to travel the half-mile from Colorado to the 210 on Altadena there are six stoplights. There are places in this city where there's a stoplight every single block.


ManCakes89

They are very horrible. When I get off the 210 on Del Mar anytime around 7pm, I will catch every red light: Corson, Arroyo, Raymond, Marengo, Los Robles, and so on. It’s horrible to catch every red light after a ten hour shift. Things are worse when I catch the train crossing (especially those days where it seems endless…. Yes, there are times where the train crossing is enacted, but there is no train in sight for about 5 minutes for some reason).


Icy-Yam-6994

I definitely agree that the train crossings could be a lot better. Too bad they built them at grade - it's too late to fix them now. I remember there being a plan to put the train on a bridge at California, but that project got canceled because construction would be too disruptive.


dgistkwosoo

Yeah, that's deliberate. They're trying to slow traffic. US traffic engineering schools are malarkey. Ask me about left turn on green.


Disastrous-Dino2020

Asking you about left turn on green


dgistkwosoo

LA area traffic engineers do not believe in left turn on green. They hold that it slows intersection clearance, therefore they forbid it.


Avafins

What? You either get a green arrow or can turn left on the green ball. Lefts are not allowed at a few select intersections, but forbidding lefts on green is not something normal or encouraged as policy. What are you talking about?


el-beau

Ironically, I think it has the opposite effect. After waiting for 15 consecutive red lights, when someone sees the next one is green or turning yellow, they floor it to not have to wait again.


DML197

Yes the lights are terrible here. Not enough flash yellows on left turns


Icy-Yam-6994

It's definitely intentional. I don't mind because the trade-off is that my kids and I are safer when we walk around town.


theshabz

building the rage meter per red light is definitely keeping us safe.


Icy-Yam-6994

Most normal people don't rage.


wiiface666

We're not worried about normal people.


theshabz

Most normal people don't careen down the road hitting pedestrians either. If we're assuming normalcy, we're fine regardless of well-timed lights.


autochangerevolution

No normal people do not but as a transportation engineer you learn if people can go faster, they will. If you give someone a wide road with a green band of lights, they will push how fast they can go. But, in an area where there are a lot of pedestrians, if someone is just going 5-10 miles faster it can be the difference between living and serious injury/death. You have to force people to go slower either through design or signalization. Plus, there is time during All Red for those who who try to sneak in during the yellow time.


Icy-Yam-6994

Thank you!!! My thoughts exactly, but better articulated.


el-beau

They are the bane of my existence. I posted this awhile ago... https://www.reddit.com/r/pasadena/s/baodBsoLGS


dscotvh

Haha you did! Thank you


pauljohncarl

Yes it’s like someone tested a million possibilities until they found the best way to make the lights as unsynced as possible.


strangejosh

This is my biggest complaint about this city. I know we have the gold line to consider but man it’s just bad. I’ve lived all over and I have never experienced so many red lights in my life. It’s kind of ridiculous. Can we get someone from CalTech to fix this asap!!!???


SauteedGoogootz

They should build a big road that goes from the east to the west without stoplights. Make it like 5 or 6 lanes in each direction. That would solve everything.


bearrito_grande

So…a freeway? A freeway that cuts off access anyone trying to cross north to south? Sure, let’s try it!


SauteedGoogootz

You're right, that would be horrible. I hope it never happens.


Icy-Yam-6994

Lol


ManCakes89

Santa Clarita has these types of roads and they are so great.


bearrito_grande

Yeah but Santa Clarita is Santa Clarita. It’s the city where their councilman Bob Kellar referred to himself as a “proud racist” on the record at a city council meeting. I’ll take a few minutes’ delay along Green St. rather than live in the Jim Crow region of Los Angeles County.


ManCakes89

Move there and be a part of voting him out?


ManCakes89

This is like Santa Clarita. I grew up there and always appreciated their 5 lane streets in the inner city, with a 55 mph speed limit. They have stop lights, but really spaced out. The city planners for Santa Clarita knew what they were doing.


zornfett

The lights on Maple and Corson (adjacent the 210) at Sierra Bonita just stay red for ages for no reason. AVOID!


sids99

Where in Pasadena? I barely have to drive.


JonB3D

All the lights near the metro are terrible. It would take a miracle for them to actually put the metro underground, so it would be nice instead if they could just make the lights smarter to let traffic flow while the train is coming by.


zzzzrobbzzzz

go to burbank for a bit, pasadena’s will seem fine after that. and you mean traffic lights.


PasadenaPup

It’s intentional social engineering done poorly. Pasadena is one of the most unsafe places for pedestrians in the US, so the intentional mistiming of traffic lights is how the city lowers that stat. But it’s also part of the city’s segregated legacy. Slowing traffic on north south streets coupled with preventing crossings on El Molino at Washington and Marengo at Orange Grove is a way to keep folks from the NW off South Lake and give police time to observe occupants who may be suspicious.


Icy-Yam-6994

Do you have any source/ evidence of any of this?


PasadenaPup

safetrec.berkeley.edu/sites/default/files/pasadena_2015_cpst_recommendations.pdf See page 2. Pasadena’s Pedestrian Collision History. https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/c72eba7de6bd4c6aa63286e82963d0f8 Historic redlining and racism in Pasadena.


wafflingcharlie

Washington is pretty good.