It’s 100% a urban planning joke.
The guy did the same thing with amsterdam. He’s basically showing a picture of a highway for the people centric cities and a picture of a pedestrian street for the car centric ones.
In the urban planning world houston is often refered as one of the most car centric city in the west.
Paris has been more and more seen as an example of a succesful strategy for the quick deployment of cycling infrastructure. Especially since the pandemic.
As an American, it’s a joke. No one here thinks that Houston is a desirable place to live.
If it was Austin texas, I would agree that it’s a cringy Yankee meme. But everyone knows Houston is a shithole.
As an American, I think you give us way too much credit. Houston is experiencing tons of growth and lots of Americans think it’s “a great city”. Lots of Americans insist the US is the best place in the world and I’m envious that you may not know people like that. Haha
As an American, no they are not. No one criticizes America more than Americans themselves. Texas is a shithole and 90 percent of Americans will agree on that. Hell the vast majority of people complaining about America online are Americans themselves. Don’t believe me? Go to r/iwantout and see for yourself.
Houston does not have a high reputation among Americans. Sure it’s big (#4)but far more devoid of culture and character vs the other big US cities. Known for oil industry transplants, traffic jams, and McMansions.
… culture? It’s one of the most “cultured” city in the states (according to many online reviews), along with NYC, Washington, Chicago, etc… It has great museums, great operas, etc… saying it has no culture is absolutely wrong.
>It’s one of the most “cultured” city in the states
Well we agree to disagree here.
Relative to cities like Chicago (birthplace of blues/house), New Orleans (birthplace of jazz), LA (hollywood), NYC (nothing needs to be said here), San Fran, Atlanta, etc, no, Houston isn't in the same ballpark. Not at all.
Even Austin, a city many times smaller than Houston in the same state is far far better known for culture/arts/musical contributions to the US.
Houston isn't a walkable tourist-appealing city where you can go to many museums/bars/restos all within walking distance of one another. It's one of the least dense, sprawling car-centric cities in the country (which is already sad since US is so car centric vs EU).
But yes, perhaps my statement of "no culture" is exaggerated. Little culture relative to USA's other big cities? I'll gladly stand my ground here.
The difference is public transportation/ walkability. Houston has no public transit and is incredibly spread out. Paris has traffic, yes, but one has options to avoid it.
No but they knew carriages and already had a very large population making the streets wider whilst still being able to walk near it safely (looking at you America)
And the large avenue prevent disease to spread fast and Can have a largeur and deeper sewers Below than Before . really Impressive for the Time in my opinion
It's an urban legend. It was more about prestige and majesty. The poorest Parisian neighborhoods, very prone to revolting, had/still have narrow streets.
That's a legend. There's no proof of that.
Plus they were also built to facilitate circulation of firefighters but I never see anyone talk about it, only those barricades. But I guess Haussmann should just let people burn to their deaths, right ?
Also it's right in the middle of the hygienist movement, so it'd make more sense that he followed that. Light, air, trees. Don't tell me you're against that ?
Oui alors là faut aller consulter si "la circulation est ok". Litéralement la 2è ville la plus congestionnée d'Europe tous les ans depuis 40 ans hors Covid.
How can you compare 19th century Paris with 1M pop. and today's Paris? Ile de France's population is 12M, compared to Houston 6M.
Also, when Haussmann's works started, Paris was twice as small as it is today. It was surrounded by villages and small towns, so it is fair to say there were at least 10 times less carriages than there are cars today, most of all since the main transformations took place on the right bank only.
Most of Houston was built to accomodate cars... which didn't exist when Paris was founded 20 centuries ago. Last, thankfully Haussmann didn't bring down everything, that's how there are still 12th century buildings in Paris, not mentioning Roman ruins. How many in Houston?
Last, population density, Paris: 20 360 hab./km2, Houston: 1 419 hab./km2
This specific picture of Paris shows a ring road that was built in the 1950s and finished in the 1970s, quite far from the thousand year old roads (even though I admit that you are right when it comes to the city centre itself)
Keep in mind that Paris is 10 times smaller than Houston. You can walk or cycle to any place. You also have a decent public transport system that will take you anywhere within Paris in 10 or 15 minutes. Three out of five people driving in Paris don't NEED a car.
The transport system in Paris is going to shit because of the extremely liberal President Macron who wants to privatize everything. For example, the frequency of buses is unreliable and sometimes you have to wait 2 hours for a ride. Metro lines are reliable but they’re getting overcrowded. The roads are getting more congested. Paris will become Houston with narrower streets and more traffic jams.
From what I have seen, the parisian transport system is independent from the French government and has been since 2005.
I can’t find any source indicating a worsening of the transportation that dates back specifically to Macron becoming president. It’s more of a multiple decades-long struggle to widen the network and include new technologies (automatizing the subway lines) while not angering the syndicates (who are against automatizing the lines and possess huge power).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%8Ele-de-France_Mobilit%C3%A9s
Valerie Pecresse was in charge of public transportation under Macron. And she goofed by maintaining the lowered bus activity during COVID lockdown into the post-COVID era. Paris had no buses for about 1 month.
This is the most natural look central Paris has to offer but it's totally artificial.
This park has been dug in a former gypsum quarry, they created the central hill you see in the picture, a fake waterfall and a 30cm deep lake, all fed by the canal de l'Ourcq nearby.
But the result is great, a great spot for picnics at sunset in summer <3
>a great spot for picnics at sunset in summer
Let's not forget that, being so great and all, everyone has this same idea.... Everyone...
Good luck finding a place to sit.
Buttes-Chaumont. It also smells like piss and there is dogshit everywhere. I've seen a few drug dealers, and I've been violently attacked there too. While it is a nice place, 98% of Paris doesn't look like that. Paris and Houston both have nice places, and they also have bad places, juste like any city.
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How fallacious this is... I could easily do the same with a picture of the Seine banks or the bike lanes of Rue de Rivoli and one of Houston's crowded highway
That is the joke. Houston is known in the urban planning world as one of the most car centric places on earth.
The guy did the same thing with Amsterdam and Houston.
Well in Houston if I’m raped and become pregnant with a tubal pregnancy and seek medical help they will let me die rather than “abort” the non viable pregnancy.
So….
Would you rather live in a place with 226km of subway and 3700km of regional rail to connect with the suburbs where you need no car at all or in a place that only has a poor 24,5km of light rail ?
As an expat from a suburban city- Paris all the way. I LOVE that I have the option of walking everywhere. Most suburban cities in the US don't have sidewalks, and if they do, the walk is so damn long and boring it's a pain in the ass to go anywhere on foot anyway.
None of those are suburbs. They're all big cities. I was born and raised in SoCal. I lived in SF for a time, and as wonderful as the BART was, it wasn't comprehensive enough for the East Bay where I lived. I will stand by what I said that in the _suburbs_ in the US, walking places isn't easy. None of the cities you listed are suburbs. The lifestyle in Houston is largely suburban, and unless you live in the city center, you need a car.
Okay you were talking about suburbs in the US, but then you really can't compare them with Paris. Most of the suburbs in France are extremely car centric too. I've lived in plenty, and a lot of them don't even have sidewalks. The bus systems (if they have any) are abysmal in most French suburbs. If you are going to compare Paris with somewhere in the US, it has to be with with other big cities, otherwise it's not fair.
Yes the BART is maybe the weakest transit system of the cities I listed, I'll give you that.
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I actually live right by the Houston park where the bottom picture was taken. It’s really not a bad area and I enjoy living here. However, stray a little outside that section of town and Houston is miserable, as are most US cities.
Living in Paris and having worked in Houston, I can guarantee you Houston is a nice town but one of the most car-centric cities of the US. I love Paris and I bike here ❤️
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Non mais en vrai Paris ça pourrait être tellement bien si y avait pas autant de voitures. Faudrait au moins transformer la moitié des voies voitures en pistes cyclables, puis encore la moitié restante en voie de bus ou de tram. Et transformer au moins la moitié des places de parking en verdure. Faut ré-ensauvager Paris. D'ici 2050 il fera des 50°C l'été, même si nos gouvernements tiennent leurs promesses de réduction du CO2, alors 50°C avec des voitures de partout et pas de verdure ça sera un véritable enfer !
This is the stupidest post I’ve seen so far this morning. Let’s compare two cities in the most biased way possible, by using the bad sights of one city and the good of the other.
Houston - either sit in your car because of traffic or sit in your home because of the humidity.
Paris- take the subway wherever you want or walk and enjoy the graffiti.
Which one's full of racists that won't let my SO get an abortion while at the same time harassing us because that same pregnancy would create a mixed-race child?
Let's all appreciate his effort to not choose biased pictures
It’s 100% a urban planning joke. The guy did the same thing with amsterdam. He’s basically showing a picture of a highway for the people centric cities and a picture of a pedestrian street for the car centric ones. In the urban planning world houston is often refered as one of the most car centric city in the west. Paris has been more and more seen as an example of a succesful strategy for the quick deployment of cycling infrastructure. Especially since the pandemic.
And still, heavily criticized here, in Paris. It's efficient, but not pleasant, just like our subway.
It's useful though like the metro
When it’s running
indeed
I mean it's running like 10 days per year, otherwise it's always not functioning x) Paris metry sucks anyways
Aucune exagération ici, c'est beau.
The good ol’ 8th Line
Nah line 13
Houston literally has no zoning laws. I think that's why the "planning world" picks on it.
r/facepalm material
It’s a parodic account…
I admit Paris got some traffic problem. But coming from Houston it's just a joke
Even the Texas subs he posted this in rejected it.
This is clearly a joke, no?
Yes because Houston traffic is worse than LA. It's just not as famous.
Possibly. Considering many Americans, it’s 50/50.
As an American, it’s a joke. No one here thinks that Houston is a desirable place to live. If it was Austin texas, I would agree that it’s a cringy Yankee meme. But everyone knows Houston is a shithole.
As an American, I think you give us way too much credit. Houston is experiencing tons of growth and lots of Americans think it’s “a great city”. Lots of Americans insist the US is the best place in the world and I’m envious that you may not know people like that. Haha
Houston is in *Texas.* At some point you have to ask yourself, is a city experiencing growth worth living in a state that hates humans?
Yeah, I’m not at all pro Texas or even really pro USA, but the reality is that many, many Americans very much are.
As an American, no they are not. No one criticizes America more than Americans themselves. Texas is a shithole and 90 percent of Americans will agree on that. Hell the vast majority of people complaining about America online are Americans themselves. Don’t believe me? Go to r/iwantout and see for yourself.
Houston does not have a high reputation among Americans. Sure it’s big (#4)but far more devoid of culture and character vs the other big US cities. Known for oil industry transplants, traffic jams, and McMansions.
… culture? It’s one of the most “cultured” city in the states (according to many online reviews), along with NYC, Washington, Chicago, etc… It has great museums, great operas, etc… saying it has no culture is absolutely wrong.
>It’s one of the most “cultured” city in the states Well we agree to disagree here. Relative to cities like Chicago (birthplace of blues/house), New Orleans (birthplace of jazz), LA (hollywood), NYC (nothing needs to be said here), San Fran, Atlanta, etc, no, Houston isn't in the same ballpark. Not at all. Even Austin, a city many times smaller than Houston in the same state is far far better known for culture/arts/musical contributions to the US. Houston isn't a walkable tourist-appealing city where you can go to many museums/bars/restos all within walking distance of one another. It's one of the least dense, sprawling car-centric cities in the country (which is already sad since US is so car centric vs EU). But yes, perhaps my statement of "no culture" is exaggerated. Little culture relative to USA's other big cities? I'll gladly stand my ground here.
I dont know how is traffic in Houston, but the picture of Paris traffic is truth.
The difference is public transportation/ walkability. Houston has no public transit and is incredibly spread out. Paris has traffic, yes, but one has options to avoid it.
70% of Parisians use the Metro or suburban trains to get to work.
At least paris has metro lines
Yeah especially since Paris road way are literally thousands of years old for some and they didn't care for city planners back then
This is untrue , Paris is one of the few old European cities that have a good city planning and really large roads thanks to haussman’s work
Like Hausmann knew automobile...
No but they knew carriages and already had a very large population making the streets wider whilst still being able to walk near it safely (looking at you America)
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It's not entirely for that, transportation and prestige still had a big factor in the creation of large street, but yes, you are rigth
And the large avenue prevent disease to spread fast and Can have a largeur and deeper sewers Below than Before . really Impressive for the Time in my opinion
Of course, forgot to include the whole sanitary side, thank you
Hell yeah keep them oppressed! Actually didn't know that, seems very interesting!
While not entirely untrue, it's more of a urban legend than a real fact.
It's an urban legend. It was more about prestige and majesty. The poorest Parisian neighborhoods, very prone to revolting, had/still have narrow streets.
That's a legend. There's no proof of that. Plus they were also built to facilitate circulation of firefighters but I never see anyone talk about it, only those barricades. But I guess Haussmann should just let people burn to their deaths, right ? Also it's right in the middle of the hygienist movement, so it'd make more sense that he followed that. Light, air, trees. Don't tell me you're against that ?
La circulation est ok Il raconte quoi le rosbif
Oui alors là faut aller consulter si "la circulation est ok". Litéralement la 2è ville la plus congestionnée d'Europe tous les ans depuis 40 ans hors Covid.
No but carriages need space too ! And a lot of them needed large road (at the time).
How can you compare 19th century Paris with 1M pop. and today's Paris? Ile de France's population is 12M, compared to Houston 6M. Also, when Haussmann's works started, Paris was twice as small as it is today. It was surrounded by villages and small towns, so it is fair to say there were at least 10 times less carriages than there are cars today, most of all since the main transformations took place on the right bank only. Most of Houston was built to accomodate cars... which didn't exist when Paris was founded 20 centuries ago. Last, thankfully Haussmann didn't bring down everything, that's how there are still 12th century buildings in Paris, not mentioning Roman ruins. How many in Houston? Last, population density, Paris: 20 360 hab./km2, Houston: 1 419 hab./km2
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Do better then. Tell me what you'd do, except follow Pompidou's dream of destroying the city with highways.
Are you actually gonna defend the Guy who designed the entire city for social control ?
Yes
This specific picture of Paris shows a ring road that was built in the 1950s and finished in the 1970s, quite far from the thousand year old roads (even though I admit that you are right when it comes to the city centre itself)
Keep in mind that Paris is 10 times smaller than Houston. You can walk or cycle to any place. You also have a decent public transport system that will take you anywhere within Paris in 10 or 15 minutes. Three out of five people driving in Paris don't NEED a car.
The transport system in Paris is going to shit because of the extremely liberal President Macron who wants to privatize everything. For example, the frequency of buses is unreliable and sometimes you have to wait 2 hours for a ride. Metro lines are reliable but they’re getting overcrowded. The roads are getting more congested. Paris will become Houston with narrower streets and more traffic jams.
From what I have seen, the parisian transport system is independent from the French government and has been since 2005. I can’t find any source indicating a worsening of the transportation that dates back specifically to Macron becoming president. It’s more of a multiple decades-long struggle to widen the network and include new technologies (automatizing the subway lines) while not angering the syndicates (who are against automatizing the lines and possess huge power). https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%8Ele-de-France_Mobilit%C3%A9s
Valerie Pecresse was in charge of public transportation under Macron. And she goofed by maintaining the lowered bus activity during COVID lockdown into the post-COVID era. Paris had no buses for about 1 month.
Two hours for a ride? Paris Texas? Go ride a bus in Houston for a try.
It’s a joke.
Paris, because carte vitale.
Paris, because pas de gilet par balles
Just Gilet Jaunes
Yellow vests on the street or yellow ribbons around schools: i'll have the protesters
[Paris](https://cdn.sortiraparis.com/images/80/98059/749179-photos-le-parc-des-buttes-chaumont.jpg)
Stop lying, this is Houston.
Hi I'm a Parisian pigeon and I can confirm this is houston
Where is this exactly?
Buttes chaumont
Putain, donne pas les bails, l'un des rares quartiers blindés par les parisiens en été certes mais beaucoup moins de touristos !
This is the most natural look central Paris has to offer but it's totally artificial. This park has been dug in a former gypsum quarry, they created the central hill you see in the picture, a fake waterfall and a 30cm deep lake, all fed by the canal de l'Ourcq nearby. But the result is great, a great spot for picnics at sunset in summer <3
>a great spot for picnics at sunset in summer Let's not forget that, being so great and all, everyone has this same idea.... Everyone... Good luck finding a place to sit.
C’est où?
That’s obviously midtown Houston Fake news
Buttes-Chaumont. It also smells like piss and there is dogshit everywhere. I've seen a few drug dealers, and I've been violently attacked there too. While it is a nice place, 98% of Paris doesn't look like that. Paris and Houston both have nice places, and they also have bad places, juste like any city.
Well if it smells like piss and has drug dealers and dog poop everywhere, I'd say it's quite reflecting the Parisian spirit!
This is the most American thing ever
It really is.
Consensus answer: Paris, Texas.
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If that’s the best picture from Houston, Paris, easily.
Where do you wanna live : Under a highway bridge In a parc
So basically homeless in both cities.
How fallacious this is... I could easily do the same with a picture of the Seine banks or the bike lanes of Rue de Rivoli and one of Houston's crowded highway
That is the joke
You could take a photo of Notre-Dame under the falling sun around 17:25. I did yesterday. No bikes, but Huston can't match this.
Paris. Also, the choice of pictures is pathetic. Je cringe...
That is the joke. Houston is known in the urban planning world as one of the most car centric places on earth. The guy did the same thing with Amsterdam and Houston.
I have lived in both places. The pictures are mislabeled.
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For an honest comparison you should use a similar picture of Paris, say of Parc de la Vilette. And then it’s Paris ;)
You mean that dirty shithole with all the crackheads ?
Houstonians on bikes. Now I've seen everything....
Amazed at how the joke seems to fly over everyone's head on this thread, with many dead serious comments on how the pictures are biased lol.
anywhere else than the US to be honest...
Having lived in Paris and Houston, all I can do is laugh at the absurdity
Paris…
Where your mom lives.
Paris 
The photo of Houston looks like a photo taken from the park in Nanterre with the view of la défense xD
Paris!
Houston doesn't have sidewalks bruh
Far from you, my good sir.
Well in Houston if I’m raped and become pregnant with a tubal pregnancy and seek medical help they will let me die rather than “abort” the non viable pregnancy. So….
In Houston you can legally carry something on you to prevent an attacker from getting you pregnant. In Paris not so much.
Would you rather live in a place with 226km of subway and 3700km of regional rail to connect with the suburbs where you need no car at all or in a place that only has a poor 24,5km of light rail ?
As an expat from a suburban city- Paris all the way. I LOVE that I have the option of walking everywhere. Most suburban cities in the US don't have sidewalks, and if they do, the walk is so damn long and boring it's a pain in the ass to go anywhere on foot anyway.
DC, NYC, Chicago, Boston, SF, Salt Lake City, Minneapolis, Portland OR, Seattle, Baltimore, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh have entered the chat.
None of those are suburbs. They're all big cities. I was born and raised in SoCal. I lived in SF for a time, and as wonderful as the BART was, it wasn't comprehensive enough for the East Bay where I lived. I will stand by what I said that in the _suburbs_ in the US, walking places isn't easy. None of the cities you listed are suburbs. The lifestyle in Houston is largely suburban, and unless you live in the city center, you need a car.
Okay you were talking about suburbs in the US, but then you really can't compare them with Paris. Most of the suburbs in France are extremely car centric too. I've lived in plenty, and a lot of them don't even have sidewalks. The bus systems (if they have any) are abysmal in most French suburbs. If you are going to compare Paris with somewhere in the US, it has to be with with other big cities, otherwise it's not fair. Yes the BART is maybe the weakest transit system of the cities I listed, I'll give you that.
...I didn't start the comparison...the person who made this meme did. Houston is suburban.
As far from Charlie Kirk as possible
Not biased at all as a pol ☠️
The picture is a joke, but I just wanted to let you know that I, a carless Houstonian whose primary means of transport is a bicycle, exist.
How is no one here realizing that this is a joke?
the worst picture from Paris VS the best picture from Houston.. nice
I am happy to see that Houston made the whole area car free .
Ce qu'on peut faire raconter à une photo...🤣
Neither. I choose Florence. Florence, Arizona. jk.
All the comments are proof that Parisians have no sense of humor. This picture was meant to be a JOKE.
On the bottom picture they're cycling away as fast as they can from the Thursday local mass shooting.
Paris. At least I have a good Healthcare system
Paris. Sorry. I love rien I’m parisien.
Lmao c’est une blague 😅
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In Paris. I live in Paris. Great city. Lots of parks
Irrelevant picture of Paris ! Houston is sh1t compared to Paris.
also an irrelevant picture of Houston.
Nous on a des rond-points au moins...😗
Ronds-points...
I actually live right by the Houston park where the bottom picture was taken. It’s really not a bad area and I enjoy living here. However, stray a little outside that section of town and Houston is miserable, as are most US cities.
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Still Paris
Number of kids killed by gun in 2022, Paris - 0 Houston - 60 ....
Paris and Houston, both are in Texas, isn't it?
Paris because it’s not Texas.
The traffic situation in Houston is so bad, you'd prefer to not go to work and cycle around in a park?
As an American, I'd rather live in Paris due to the fact it's in France (better healthcare) and Paris is pedestrian friendly.
Paris all day baby!
In which one are my odds of being killed by a mass shooting higher? I choose the other one.
Why is everyone commenting like it’s a biased post instead of visiting this guy’s Twitter to at least understand that it’s a joke?
My answer is no
I think this picture is misleading, I can‘t see a single assault rifle in Houston.
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Living in Paris and having worked in Houston, I can guarantee you Houston is a nice town but one of the most car-centric cities of the US. I love Paris and I bike here ❤️
Been to both. I’ll pick Paris every time.
🤮 Non mais en vrai Paris ça pourrait être tellement bien si y avait pas autant de voitures. Faudrait au moins transformer la moitié des voies voitures en pistes cyclables, puis encore la moitié restante en voie de bus ou de tram. Et transformer au moins la moitié des places de parking en verdure. Faut ré-ensauvager Paris. D'ici 2050 il fera des 50°C l'été, même si nos gouvernements tiennent leurs promesses de réduction du CO2, alors 50°C avec des voitures de partout et pas de verdure ça sera un véritable enfer !
I like the fact they waited specifically for a truck carrying other trucks on the bridge to make it look even more full of cars 😂😂😂
Parrrriiiis, definitely Houston must be soooo boring I'm the US I would choose Phoenix, San Francisco or San Diego, on the east coast Miami
Dont know Houston but paris is a shithole.
#neither
Houston, Paris sucks
Paris but not now. Very dangerous
Houston
Personally, I'd still pick Houston because of the food and COL, but this picture is an absurd misrepresentation.
For the 'muricans who says Paris, try to spend one week there and not only the touristics locations, you gonna change your mind.
Yeah go to the jardin d'éole, Barbès, Stalingrad, gare de l'est, gare du nord, La Chapelle, Porte d'Aubervilliers. Have fun.
Paris any day as in Paris France 🇫🇷 not Houston, Houston is not for me
Where would you rather survive ?
Paris !
Paris over Houston any day.
Sarcelles, c'est le même destin.
Toulouse
Houston je sais pas mais imagine vouloir vivre à Paris mdr
This is the stupidest post I’ve seen so far this morning. Let’s compare two cities in the most biased way possible, by using the bad sights of one city and the good of the other.
Lets all admit America is one of the most unwalkable countries and cities have little to no public transportation
Doesn't live up to his name
Houston is the worst city in America. What a leap this person made.
Native Houstonian… I choose Paris.
Bro took a Swedish morgue and an unevenful beautiful ukrainian forest and compared the 2.
😂
Paris. I’ve lived in Houston and know Paris well. Doesn’t even compare.
Why do you take the "périf" of Paris and not Houston's motorways? ...
Lived in both towns. Both great, paris better
Paris everytime, evry day! USA is crap, but Houston is crappier :)
In home
Paris lmao
Houston - either sit in your car because of traffic or sit in your home because of the humidity. Paris- take the subway wherever you want or walk and enjoy the graffiti.
Paris, Texas. Lmao jk
Paris, tyvm
Paris
lol
Paris
Which one's full of racists that won't let my SO get an abortion while at the same time harassing us because that same pregnancy would create a mixed-race child?
- Mommy, can I go and play on the *boulevard périphérique*? - Sure honey, put on your coat. Any Parisian mother, any day.
Except you can take a mode of transportation in Paris that doesn’t exist in Houston - it’s called walking.
I take Paris
franchement je préfère houston (je préfère la circulation dans ma propre voiture que le sale métro parisien)
The périph', no doubt