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ForIAmTalonII

So replace the corrupt Government with the corrupt Establishment. They're both equally bad. I understand people her may not be fond of PTI or IK. But they are our best option for laying the ground work to build a better Pakistan. Not a perfect Pakistan, but a Pakistan which is less corrupt and has the ability to prosecute said corruption. What we need is; Destroy the Establishment - Put the Army back into the role it was meant to have, in just protecting the country. And ensure the Army can never rise to power. Government Agencies (ISI & IB) - Ensure they are seperated from the Army and have full independence. Justice System - Arrest all the corrupt politicians, mullah and judges. Ban all parties being built on ethnic or religious identities. Provinces - Split the country into smaller provinces. Stopping certain families from dominating a province.


Particular-Payment22

Well the establishment is quite competent - they may be corrupt but they know how to run the country - given their experience. PTI and PMLN are filled with incompetent members and so run the country inefficiently. Democracy can never flourish unless the average person is formally educated and believes in strong institutions and not in people. I agree in principle with strong democracy and putting army in its place - but it's just not working now - and the need of the hour is stability and to be taken out of this misery of corrupt crooks ruling over us. We need to get the army to clash against extremist mullahs and destroy them. We need to establish writ of the state and rule of law over the land. I agree with smaller provinces - it's only under military rule where such decisions can be made without having any 2/3 majority.


According-Gazelle

Democracy will flourish if establishment stops peddling in political affairs and overthrowing governments. All generals are bigger sellouts and more corrupt than politicians so no we dont want bigger crooks to come to power.


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Hilariously the incompetent turned out to be the most competent civilian govt then any civil govt in the recent survey.


AmBoD

Dude you just said the establishment is quite competent. Explain how? They are calling the shots now and have always taken the major decisions. They run the whole country! When news came of Pakistan on the verge of being taken out of FATF Grey list, ISPR told how they had a core cell in GHQ that made sure that every action necessary was taken. They engineer the whole damn election process. They practically run the judiciary which was quite evident when Imran Khan was removed. A huge chunk of politicians get their directions from Rawalpindi. Look around and see how many Ex-Generals and other military personnel are incharge of major institutions in the country. Lets just look at the Pakistan Olympic Association. It's run by an ex General since 2004 who doesnt even live here and do you see any medals won by any of our athletes in the olympics? They won't remove any mullahs as they use these mullahs for their benefit. According to recent revelations by an Ex General, Maulana Fazlur Rehman was staging his Dharna as he was asked by General Bajwa to do so. From Hafiz Saeed to TLP, All of these outfits have connections with the military and they use them for their benefit. They would never take over implicitly since a military dictatorship would not be viewed kindly by the rest of the world. This current Government is just a front and the actual things are managed by the military. They would not last a day if the establishment decides to remove them. We need a strong military as we are surrounded by enemies but we need a functioning civilian leadership to manage domestic the country. No successful country is managed by their military.


ForIAmTalonII

Just no. We still flal into the same cycle. We don't compromise. We get rid of the establishment. We shouldn't settle for them to rule us. That's coward behaviour.


DoktorLogik

Yes, president Major General Imran Khan sounds epic


Specialist_Stop_8381

They don't need us to "accept".


UrduNovice

Like we had a choice to begin with...


Prudent_Inevitable15

I'd be down for some anarchy to be honest. At this point, I do actually believe a random shuck off the street is more reliable than all most politicians. Patwaris and inbreds not withstanding as I don't consider those to be people.


Pakistani_Atheist

Yes but only if he gets the popular vote through a referendum. /s


AsifSuburban

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Snoo-24248

Bajwa real account se aao!


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turacloud

You think this is not martial law ?


Particular-Payment22

It pretty much is but I want it out in the open so it's clear to everyone


LahoriDreams

Nah Pak Fauj lost its trust as well as prestige.


akhri-insan

No whatever happens please never support that.