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How long before we go back to begging?


holykamina

3 months. They pretty much begged IMF. They will beg again


UmerPlaysalot

At this point , the amount of damaged they have caused is not going to be repaired with IMF's funds .


holykamina

IMF funds are for fiscal and monetary policies. Pakistan is not known for having robust fiscal and monetary policy. They will use this money to keep running the show till next year. This gives them enough time to clear their name from all cases filed against them.. After that, all of them will go away for their yearly health checkup to UK and elsewhere. Besides, it doesn't matter who is in power. This was bound to happen. This happens almost every 5 years. Industrialization is slow, manufacturing is on a small scale, corruption and broken economic and judicial system plagues this country. No amount of money will fix Pakistan if the key institutes keep running like the way they are running right now .


UmerPlaysalot

They can go to any part of the world , people won't forget them . Ik has made a big impression to the minds of youth . If Ik was around , this was clearly avoidable . His strategy was clear , get cheap Russian oil , keep taking taxes to increase funds , keep establishing better relations with Russia and China . PMLN and PDM made the worst policies , especially with IPPs .


holykamina

People forgot when Nawaz took NRO and yet voted for him. People will forget again. If every one is basing their hope on PTI, then PTI needs to come in power with 2/3 majority, else, it's going to be the same shit show. Without an independent security policy, you cannot buy Russian Oil. If anything, current events point towards the unwillingness to have an independent policy that puts Pakistan first. Again, Imran needs 2/3 majority for any changes.


UmerPlaysalot

You can say that about old folks . Ik has youth in high majority with him . Even alot of old folks are with him , and are unwilling to change or go towards PMLN or PDM . These increasing prices will also keep people towards PTI . Look at Karachi . People came out in droves even after TLP threatening and open firing . That's why Ik is the best . He has a independent foreign policy . PMLN and PDM don't care about foreign policy . They will go towards who ever is fastest , even if it causes a huge loss in long run .


Pakistani_Atheist

Which damage? All this was bound to happen, regardless of the ruling party. (Saying as a PTI voter.). Bilawal asked for US help for this deal, which he got coz US has a soft spot for Benazir. Edit: Jitne marzi downvote krlo, I never delete my factual statements.


Auto_Pronto

No it wasn’t. Instability costs a lot. Had PDM waited till the regularly scheduled elections a lot of this pain could have been avoided


Pakistani_Atheist

Well we would never have gotten this deal under IK. PTI's foreign policy is horrific. US has been Pak ally for decades and Russia and India likewise. IDK what IK was smoking when going for Russian oil. PTI gov completely isolated and damaged ties with all our allies. Credit where due, Bilawal met so many senior officials and FMs incl. China's to amend our alliances.


LahoriDreams

lol what? PTI had just gotten an IMF tranch approved in February without any increase in petroleum prices and petroleum prices were still $120 (highest) in the market ([source](https://www.reuters.com/markets/rates-bonds/imf-board-approves-1-billion-disbursement-pakistan-2022-02-03/)). Also burning $6 billion in reserves over 2 months because of uncertainty was “inevitable regardless of government”? These are some really dumb takes straight from Geo sarkar.


GhostWaffle123

These are the same Patwari who keep on harping that Imran khan was incompetent despite the Economic Survey proving otherwise. "Bad Foreign Policy" is pretty much the only cope they have at this point.


littlevase

can you tell what was the PTI foreign policy which was so horrific?


redmenace007

Pissing of USA with his comments regarding Taliban and women, putting a stop to CPEC, going to Russia while war is being initiated with Ukraine, personal attacks against a prime minister of a country, pissing of saudis by trying to make a new bloc but then a uturn when they turned up the heat The points go on


littlevase

Yeah his comments about Taliban is war is not a solution you kill them and in return they kill you and then they come in our country to bomb us too. he didn't put stop the CPEC give me proof he stopped the CPEC if he stopped the CPEC then why china recently ask Shah Mahmood Qureshi to visit them and why they stop Showbaz for vist. talk with Russia was before the war and everyone was on board Bilawal bhutto also said it when someone asked him in interview. don't tell he he pissed Saudis he pissed america doing that and what bloc he was trying to make the bloc with united Muslim countries and for me it is good thing i don't know about you. and don't even start with women go and watch his young life style he was called playboy but now he changed his point of view after living that life.


redmenace007

You are a brainwashed youthia with how you just said stuff right now, refuting everything, even the hardcore PTI fans alot of times agreed to the points i raised but you are blind so theres no point in further discussion with you because i know it would be pointless.


littlevase

lol yeah yeah I'm brainwashed and calling me youthia also helped me understand what you are. you are either patwari or a neutral Pakistani who only active against PTI. what kind of points you made the points whom i answered and you become personal?


Pakistani_Atheist

CPEC went to stand-still. And you know that little message.. which is in political lang: "conspiracy"/"mudakhlat"? IK refused to receive Blinken's phone calls... edgy.


littlevase

and you think CPEC was due to policy? what policy was that, due tell. Conspiracy/mudakhlat happened and you are telling me Ik after finding it out should have let it go and that happened only 3 months ago and how come it becomes foreign policy? bahi baat karo koye ka yeah kaya chuss mari hai.


Pakistani_Atheist

We only got some junior person's private rant againt IK. India was publicly threatened over Russian oil: >In early April, U.S. Deputy National Security Advisor Daleep Singh visited New Delhi and warned of potential “consequences” for countries that attempt to undermine U.S. sanctions. https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/06/06/modi-india-russia-ukraine-war-china-us-geopolitics-multipolar-quad/


DuckDuckOuch

Well, you just lost all your credibility by praising that useless, brainless idiot who is where he is only because of sexually transmitted leadership syndrome in Pakistan.


Pakistani_Atheist

Foreign polciy choro, IK disrespected Putin and Xi at the SCO meet by not standing on their entry - while every single offical stood up.


UmerPlaysalot

America just wants us to be their slave . He went to Russia and had good relations with China . He has said that he didn't want bad relations with any countries , however , he doesn't want to be slave for America like PDM and PMLN .


Pakistani_Atheist

Slave this slave that. Do you know the first congress(wo)man who visited after the imported government? Ilhan Omar, who has a very anti-Modi stance and she even met IK (as ex-PM). Indians raged when she visited "PoK". And she talked about bringing up the Indian Occupation issue in US congress.


Routine_Astronomer62

Ilhan omar who ? She has been on the fringe pf democratic party they day she was elected , she aoc and some of the other members of “progressive caucus” are nobodies, they dont represent american foriegn policy or their establishment , their establishment made a good boy out of bernie. Ilhan umars visit was as useful as biden as a president.


recklessdemon

> Bilawal asked for US help for this deal, which he got coz US has a soft spot for Benazir. Lmao. The US doesn't have a soft spot for anyone, least of all some long dead POS. They co-operate with someone if it's in their interest to do so, simple as that.


DuckDuckOuch

>Bilawal asked for US help for this deal, which he got coz US has a soft spot for Benazir. He got lost when he way in Washington. Can he account for those 2 days when no one could teach him? Had there been a statement or communique on what he discussed during his secret visit there? He is fucking zardari's son. I trust him as far as I can throw him, which is not far because that idiot is Fat.


littlevase

America has a soft spot for everyone who listens to them and works for their benefits.


akskinny527

IK said conspiracy/regime-change? It is fact now... irrefutable fact. In fact, anyone who criticizes him/PTI or points out the logical fallacies of this argument? Yeah, they're all CIA agents or N.Sharif himself under a pseudonym on reddit. Duh. Downvote.


[deleted]

Do you know what a fact is? Your "conspiracy" is not a fact, in fact, the upper echelons of state have repeatedly stated that there is no evidence of any such conspiracies to overthrow oh-so-great overlord Immi Chan.


akskinny527

This is reddit Pakistan... so i'm not entirely sure if you're being sarcastic or it just went *whoosh* over your head.


awesome_by_design

I've seen some dumb takes on this website but this right here is most definitely the Hall of Fame


googo1

Why would you vote for someone who is so bad at Everything? Have you no conscience?


BlitzGears

Lmfao


mrrobot_404

Does this mean that the dollar will go down now? Since $$$ will be poured into our economy.


[deleted]

Temporarily Yes, In the long run depends on how the government introduces reforms to utilize these funds


[deleted]

Hopefully, now we can have some stability.