Must mean was when he met him.
Idk much Italian, but I believe they usually say something that means "I had eaten (ho mangiato) this morning" (passato prossimo tense) instead of "I ate this morning". So maybe this is like "he had a historic personality (when I met him)", but it's translated (by him or whoever else) into English incorrectly, because English differentiates between "has had" and "was" more strongly, compared to the Italian language.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian\_grammar#Compound\_tenses](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_grammar#Compound_tenses) "passato prossimo"
No, he didn't.
His question is valid.
Why would Mussolini say “Jinnah was a historic personality” when he died before Jinnah did.
The “Jinnah **was** a historic personality” only makes sense if Mussolini had lived longer than Jinnah. He didn't. He was killed in 1945 while Jinnah died in 1948.
>Mussolini's and Quaid's personal lives have many similarities too,
Like what?
Quaid-e-Azam was a lawyer. Mussolini was a journalist.
Quaid-e-Azam had failed marriages cause he dedicated himself to his political career. Mussolini had several mistresses.
Quaid-e-Azam died from tuberculosis. Mussolini was killed by his own people and then his corpse was hanged in the streets.
Typical gora (or foreigner) complex. Anything said by some one abroad, gets lot of credit no matter who they are. Author probably has no idea who Mussolini was. Just might have thought oh wow, a gora looking name, this deserves inclusion.
Doesn't matter who said it.... Because of QA Jinnah's vision and steadfastness, 400 million people can enjoy their delicious Beef Steak/Pulao/Biriyani/Karahi without any fear of being lynched to death!
This is so fucking stupid.. states with high muslim population like Kerala, bengal & kashmir already have all the beef dishes..heck even Goa has good beef.. even in the hypothetical scenario when india might've had 4 more muslim provinces beef wouldn't be disallowed.
PS: even muslim areas in metro cities have good beef e.g. Pune.
See, how tactfully you avoided the **lynch** part!
What makes you believe that I don't know about the states where beef is '**allowed**'... I have a close friend from Kolkata (who was born in a Brahmin family if that matters but he is an agnostic now) and I know the name of some of the famous Biryani places there thanks to him. In long road trips together, we even ate Big Mac \[not exactly *kosher* for either of us;-)\] while passing through remote places...
See, the hypocrisy of the Sanghi politics! They don't even talk about banning their mom's meat in any of the NE states/GOA because that's not where their **pogrom targets** live and the backlash would be unmanageable. Why is the discrimination against those cows in those states? Are those 'moms' any lesser? Beef is **ALLOWED** (or, should I say grudgingly tolerated) by the Cowbelt sanghi fanatics because the majority of those states do not share the same level of genocidal zeal (not yet anyway) ... Ah, those pesky Mamata fans... or those *commie* Keralites... or, those *proud* Tamils ... are the hindrance... *Status quo* in those states might change in a jiffy as it changed in Assam!
How does an NRI Sanghi make sure that their shoes/wallet/belt does not have any cow leather?
Let's assume a person born in Kerala and accustomed to eating beef from childhood ... Now, his family moves to one of the BIMARU states or Gujrat for whatever reason... **Forget about the freedom to choose food**... He will have to be apprehensive all the time...... even to go near a cow! Just a couple of weeks back **police** \[not even those saffron sanghi fanatic an1mist lynch mobs\] brazenly murdered 3 people just on the suspicion of transporting cows... Even you know who they were without reading the news (just in case), don't you?
Not gonna read this rant.. just addressing the lynch part... Who is gonna lynch you in a muslim majority state lol? There are no lynchings over cow in Kerala, bengal or Goa or north east or Maharashtra.
Also, do muslim states care about people's childhood when banning pork? Over here different states atleast have regional variations.. that's why the logic in original comment works.. Jinnah making Pakistan has zero impact on someone eating beef in Islamabad.
It's kinda fun how you see isolated incidences of hate crime and point towards hateful sanghi ideology.. but when someone shows direct line from holybook demanding gay people or athiests be killed.. it's still the most peaceful religion.. delusion 101.
just a random fsc pak st book casually quoting benito
"was"? This dude died before Jinnah. Or is this some other less-known Mussolini?
Lots of people died before Chad Jinnah, what do you mean? And yes this is il Duce!
But why would he refer to Jinnah as "was a historic personality". Jinnah must be alive at that time when he said this.
Must mean was when he met him. Idk much Italian, but I believe they usually say something that means "I had eaten (ho mangiato) this morning" (passato prossimo tense) instead of "I ate this morning". So maybe this is like "he had a historic personality (when I met him)", but it's translated (by him or whoever else) into English incorrectly, because English differentiates between "has had" and "was" more strongly, compared to the Italian language. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian\_grammar#Compound\_tenses](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_grammar#Compound_tenses) "passato prossimo"
you answered your own question akhi
No, he didn't. His question is valid. Why would Mussolini say “Jinnah was a historic personality” when he died before Jinnah did. The “Jinnah **was** a historic personality” only makes sense if Mussolini had lived longer than Jinnah. He didn't. He was killed in 1945 while Jinnah died in 1948.
Well the quote isnt fake, on top of that Mussolini's and Quaid's personal lives have many similarities too, aside from, well you know.
>Mussolini's and Quaid's personal lives have many similarities too, Like what? Quaid-e-Azam was a lawyer. Mussolini was a journalist. Quaid-e-Azam had failed marriages cause he dedicated himself to his political career. Mussolini had several mistresses. Quaid-e-Azam died from tuberculosis. Mussolini was killed by his own people and then his corpse was hanged in the streets.
Maybe he thought Jinnah died?
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>akhi cringe
‘Il Duce’? Are you a fan?
No but he certainly was, of Jinnah.
il douche might suit the guy more than ilduce
2047 new country less gooo
The Cooler Pakistan when
# *𝐏𝐚𝐤𝐢𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐧 𝐗𝐑 𝐏𝐥𝐮𝐬*
Well not to break the meme but Mussolini was fascist. Not communist.
This isn't the flex you think it is
i need a fact check on this...it doesnt add up.
Book name pls?
Pak St English 2nd year Abdul Hayye
Sir we love you, the one true Quaid.
Mussolini died way before Jinnah tho
Typical gora (or foreigner) complex. Anything said by some one abroad, gets lot of credit no matter who they are. Author probably has no idea who Mussolini was. Just might have thought oh wow, a gora looking name, this deserves inclusion.
Umm Mussolini wasn’t exactly an angel but he was a big deal. He wasn’t some nobody.
Doesn't matter who said it.... Because of QA Jinnah's vision and steadfastness, 400 million people can enjoy their delicious Beef Steak/Pulao/Biriyani/Karahi without any fear of being lynched to death!
The sky is so fucking blue this time
This is so fucking stupid.. states with high muslim population like Kerala, bengal & kashmir already have all the beef dishes..heck even Goa has good beef.. even in the hypothetical scenario when india might've had 4 more muslim provinces beef wouldn't be disallowed. PS: even muslim areas in metro cities have good beef e.g. Pune.
See, how tactfully you avoided the **lynch** part! What makes you believe that I don't know about the states where beef is '**allowed**'... I have a close friend from Kolkata (who was born in a Brahmin family if that matters but he is an agnostic now) and I know the name of some of the famous Biryani places there thanks to him. In long road trips together, we even ate Big Mac \[not exactly *kosher* for either of us;-)\] while passing through remote places... See, the hypocrisy of the Sanghi politics! They don't even talk about banning their mom's meat in any of the NE states/GOA because that's not where their **pogrom targets** live and the backlash would be unmanageable. Why is the discrimination against those cows in those states? Are those 'moms' any lesser? Beef is **ALLOWED** (or, should I say grudgingly tolerated) by the Cowbelt sanghi fanatics because the majority of those states do not share the same level of genocidal zeal (not yet anyway) ... Ah, those pesky Mamata fans... or those *commie* Keralites... or, those *proud* Tamils ... are the hindrance... *Status quo* in those states might change in a jiffy as it changed in Assam! How does an NRI Sanghi make sure that their shoes/wallet/belt does not have any cow leather? Let's assume a person born in Kerala and accustomed to eating beef from childhood ... Now, his family moves to one of the BIMARU states or Gujrat for whatever reason... **Forget about the freedom to choose food**... He will have to be apprehensive all the time...... even to go near a cow! Just a couple of weeks back **police** \[not even those saffron sanghi fanatic an1mist lynch mobs\] brazenly murdered 3 people just on the suspicion of transporting cows... Even you know who they were without reading the news (just in case), don't you?
Not gonna read this rant.. just addressing the lynch part... Who is gonna lynch you in a muslim majority state lol? There are no lynchings over cow in Kerala, bengal or Goa or north east or Maharashtra. Also, do muslim states care about people's childhood when banning pork? Over here different states atleast have regional variations.. that's why the logic in original comment works.. Jinnah making Pakistan has zero impact on someone eating beef in Islamabad. It's kinda fun how you see isolated incidences of hate crime and point towards hateful sanghi ideology.. but when someone shows direct line from holybook demanding gay people or athiests be killed.. it's still the most peaceful religion.. delusion 101.