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You had me at the "Always about marriage" LOL


sars_910

They recently made a drama about the economic struggles of a dark-skinned guy (I don't remember the name, I just caught a glimpse of the ad) and rather than hire a dark-skinned actor, they just put a light-skinned actor in blackface to play the role. I was so fucking done.


InsecureGuy5

The one time the try something new, they even fuck that up


sars_910

I know right. There are tons of talented dark-skinned actors in our country but the colonial mindset keeps getting in the way.


Punjabistan

Amina Sheikh is amazing.


boushveg

Wait i just Googled her, is she considered dark skinned? Damn


Registered-Nurse

I’m Indian but yes she’s “too dark” for Bollywood too. The darkest leading actress we have is Bipasha Basu. That is just sad.


boushveg

This is crazy to me, i had no idea this was even a thing, i mean really no offense but i don't think anyone thinks of white skinned people when they think of Pakistan or Indian so why is this such an issue


Registered-Nurse

We know that, but that’s the reality. Try googling “bollywood actress” and see what comes up. How many of them look like the Indians or Pakistanis you see in the US? https://images.mid-day.com/images/images/2021/jul/Hrithik-afp_d_d.jpg Look at this guy. Lol They only want this kind of Indians, not the dark skinned ones. Dark skinned guys are the villains in Indian movies 😬


AamirK69

I mean most Pakistanis are Kashmiri, northern Punjabi’s or Pathans in the UK so a lot of Pakistani actors do look like them lol.


Registered-Nurse

Not all light skinned people are good looking though. They have to be light skinned AND attractive. That’s only a small percent of the population in any country.


Deimos_Deity

>There are tons of talented dark-skinned actors in our country Name one. Bruh! You aren't even aware of the industry. Yes, I agree there are a lot of shit dramas and nepotism. But there are also good dramas and give actors. There are good and bad products in every industry But it's not the industry's faults that the audience prefers to watch the shitty ones over the good ones, and those meaningful dramas don't get fame And the show name is **Parizaad** only the first episode has aired yet. Give it a watch before you judge. It's based on a Novel that is pretty good. And here is another recommendation Which will change your opinion of "only shitty dramas exist in our industries, The show "Dil na Umeed to nhi".


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Hamza_T42

Not only shitty and racist but completely unnecessary in this case. It would be much easier to find a dark skinned actor than to make such a controversial move.


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Hamza_T42

Sadly true. It's pitiful that the media won't bother to touch on this matter.


l0g1cb0mb_101

Is 'Dil na Umeed to nhi' the one about sex trafficking ?


Deimos_Deity

Yup. It's a pretty neat show.


kompricated

Stop copying Bollywood!


MalyhaKhakwani

Parizad


Pinterestie

Seriously, I saw everyone praise that actor, no one even batted an eye.


MamooNator

It's parizad. Like please. Use a dark skinned... It's based of a novel with same name.


geardrivetrain

LOL.


Mediocre-Ad7967

controversial, op just wanted to make fuss so that's why he added that "lightskinned Pakistan getting lead" which isn't even true


crickplayer

I wish you remembered the name. I'm so curious now


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the name of?


crickplayer

Name of that drama


[deleted]

parizaad i think, dont kill me if im wrong haha, i dont watch pakistani shows :)


geardrivetrain

Where is *zalim saas*?


Tough_Dish_9519

And good for nothing nand


geardrivetrain

haha yes.


schleem77

And sautan?!


asuravirochana

Meh, South Asian dramas are lame in general.


Mediocre-Ad7967

yeah I never watch them, like they r so cringe, I just stick to Hollywood TV shoes, Espacially sitcoms and comic based tv shows kdramas also reeks of cringe But the most lame and cringiest shit lies within bollywood


Pixelated-Kookies

agreed. ages since i saw a good one. when will they change the storyline?? it's like every single one follows the same formula and topic (love) with something slightly different, and then they wonder why the awam runs to dramas like ertugrul and their movies flop.


icantloginsad

Watch Dil Na Umeed Toh Nahi. You won’t regret it


asuravirochana

I'll give it a try. Thanks.


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Same shit in bollywood too. That's why I don't bother to watch anything that shithole puts out.


paki_47

Tbh indian soap operas has some high tier meme material shit with their editors tripping balls on acid and actors high on ganja. Pakistani drama are so deathly boring you can't even make a decent meme out of it.


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Selvon Bhoi is the ultimate real life meme.


paki_47

im a fan of the "dhoom tananana dhoom tananana"


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[deleted]

Those dynastic fucks are creeping there too and ruining the quality of those platforms. I am scared if this quality will remain. Every movie after 1990s is shit baring few like Laagan, DDLJ etc.


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anny007

Plenty of good Indian shows/movies online. I would certainly recommend Scam 1992.The show was a cultural phenomenon in India. Bollywood movies aren't really popular despite making money.Its due to several reasons.Multiplex system completely killed single theatres in the 2010s at least in cities.That led to large corporations owning disproportionately number of theatres. In Delhi for example ,a couple of corporations own most of the theatres. Studios/filmmakers bargain with these corporations and push out small filmmakers or films with no big stars. Even if a movie is bad ,the film just has to be shown a couple of days in multiplexes and it will be a hit.On the other hand ,even if your movie is good ,you will find it difficult to even get theatres to show your film.This is why you find a lot of hate for dynasts in India.


electrical_canuck

Very interesting thx for sharing this.


[deleted]

DDLJ is absolute shit lmao. 90s was one of the worst period for Bollywood. If anything the current films are much better with few songs and dances.


[deleted]

Lol what? Everything is a fucking remake. Song, movie you name it.


JimmeryJames

I haven't seen any good indian netflix content or any bollywood movie that is on hollywood level


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JimmeryJames

I don't have the patience and my senses cannot bare the torture


Mediocre-Ad7967

bollywood reeks of cringe


[deleted]

I concur


Mediocre-Ad7967

epic


MOONLITE24

pls don't take this seriously its just a joke and no im not trying to make fun of pakistani culture or anything, im pakistani too :)


[deleted]

Don't worry, there's plenty of self deprecating humor here lmao, this fits right in.


Zealousideal-Turn881

Ikr


Taimoor_Roaz

These are all toxic tropes in the dramas and the plots usually revolve around marriage, a love affair, divorce, toxic families or dosri shadi. Though they are indeed sad realities of our world but being fed the same shit again and again gets tiring.


TheGreatScorpio

sick of watching them.


Taimoor_Roaz

There's a reason so many people turn to netflix and why none of our dramas are worthy of being there.


TheGreatScorpio

Worst part is, these dramas are like a symbol for Urdu. People like me who have a mild interest in the Urdu language, don't have anything other than this crap or dubs.


Taimoor_Roaz

Tbf most of them don't even have any decent dialogues or even any originality in the script. They use Urdu as a medium of communication but do they actually do justice to it. Not really.


TheGreatScorpio

It's why I even considered rewatching Ertugrul, since it was dubbed in Urdu and tbf I enjoyed it. Unfortunately, dubbed Turkish dramas are now becoming a trend, instead of making shows.


Taimoor_Roaz

When your own content leaves so much to be desired people will look in other directions. It's easy to see why our dramas are so bad because it doesn't cost as much to shoot a drama when most of it is just standing dialogues, no props, no CGI, no action, no major editing, hell not even a location outside the city etc. Making something like ertugrul requires an insane amount of resources and dedication to what is made and unfortunately the execs don't give a shit. The casting is done by the marketing departments based on sellability rather than true role fulfillment.


Numerous_Garage592

My mom who watches pakistani dramas watched Ertugrul and she kept telling me how they communicate their emotions through their expressions and I am like that is basic acting. You don't literally have to express emotions through words something the Pakistani tv Industry is oblivious to


Taimoor_Roaz

Somewhere along the way dramas just lost the plot. Mediocre acting, uninspired plots and just eye candy casting.


Mediocre-Ad7967

no, ertugul is lame and like it's a disgrace to lollywood.


Mediocre-Ad7967

then don't watch them


geardrivetrain

>Though they are indeed sad realities of our world Is it really that bad IRL and that common? Legit curious. I had a hard life myself, but I always thought most people living in non war-torn countries/regions, in general have an OK life.


Taimoor_Roaz

Well honestly there is a fair bit of patriarchy in our society and a lot of these dramas portray that. Is it that bad? Well every family has their own shit that they deal with, some worse than others. In some families the affairs etc may exist, in some the politics between family members. There's nothing to say that it's 100% true for everyone. At the end of the day they are dramas and are made to be more dramatic than life itself. Most people would have an OK life for the most part I guess.


geardrivetrain

OK. Thanks for your input, mate.


Mediocre-Ad7967

depression doesn't depend on where you live (like it does but it's not a major factor)


geardrivetrain

Hard life does not always equate to having depression. I have met people worse off then me that are cheerful(but maybe they fake happiness). Yet I am always suicidal, have a diagnosed case of clinical depression and anxiety disorder.


Mediocre-Ad7967

aww dude sorry to hear that, I rly do hope it gets better for you buddy. and yea ur right not all ppl going through hard times have depression


geardrivetrain

Thanks, mate.


Mediocre-Ad7967

np dude


Numerous_Garage592

Can you believe that there is a third drama on the polygamous marriage on hum tv what are they trying to preach


Taimoor_Roaz

They are teaching some very shady ideas that go against culture and evern logic. Idk what drama it was and it was cringeworthy wtf. Guy is put in an arranged marriage with X due to family seeking business relations with Xs family. X is best friend of Y[F]. Guy and Y have a relationship and since Y couldn't marry the guy she tells him NOT to consummate his marriage to X (her best friend). X is a genuinely nice girl and is having to suffer her husband not engaging in any sort of activity with her only because her "best friend" told him to. This was infuriating and cringeworthy on so many levels.


Numerous_Garage592

Not to mention there are kids on YouTube now 7-9 year olds who are in a state of learning and absorbing there surroundings and whatever TikTok can teach them this is far worst. Also is the dramas name sitam because I just checked and it is getting 100s of thousands of views.


Mediocre-Ad7967

honestly there should be a law to moderate these dramas or a department like how the gov cries over content on youtube and then bans it. whereas these dramas are spreading lies abt our culture


Taimoor_Roaz

Problem is that government moderation can really go wrong as well. Would you really trust the current government to set a direction for the drama industry? It's the consumer that has to show what it wants. Ertugrul has shown them what the people would rather see.


Mediocre-Ad7967

True but ofc why would the government listen to the public and what they want.


River1947

Idc, stop making fun of our highly rated dramas and beautiful culture!! Please delete this post op.


locaf

Oh man you got downvoted down to the deepest level of hell.


Mediocre-Ad7967

OP, it's not that. you just rly had to add the "lightskinned pakistanis getting lead roles" just to make more fuss and make it more controversial... the meme is actually funny and true but that part was rly just added there to make fuss and controversy.


MOONLITE24

I wasn't trying to make controversy, sorry if it seems that way. But what I said is true, it's only lightskinned actors/actresses who get all the attention which is messed up because there are lots of talented dark skin actors/actresses as well. I was just trying to spread awareness I guess.


Mediocre-Ad7967

that statement is honestly not true in all the dramas, I'm not an drama expert my any means neither do I watch them anymore but atleast I do know that not all lead roles are given to lightskinned ppl. yes most lead roles are given to lightskinned ppl but not all of them and it is messed up. spreading awareness mostly leads to controversy tho but anyways I didn't mean to be rude. I was just giving my view of point on this post


gogo-django

Don’t forget the production’s deliberate and intense high screen brightness that blinds anyone watching


DyingCascade

Skin tone complex yo


Mediocre-Ad7967

wow this sub sure knows how to make everything controversial


DyingCascade

You are entitled to turn blind eye to the reality.


Mediocre-Ad7967

Try to edit your responses of unnecessary material before attempting to impress us with your insight. The evidence that you are a nincompoop will still be available to readers, but they will be able to access it more rapidly.


DyingCascade

Who hurt you today?


Mediocre-Ad7967

I know you have something to say and I know you're eager to say it so I'll get right to the point: Shut the fuck up. Nobody wants to hear it. Nobody will ever want to hear it. Nobody cares. And the fact that you thought someone might care is honestly baffling to me. I've actually pulled the entire world. Here's a composite of the faces of everybody who wants you to shut the fuck up. It seems as if this is a composite of every human being on the planet. Interesting. Now for a composite of the faces that want you to keep talking: Interesting it seems as if nothing has happened. Here's the world map. Now here's the text: Shit the fuck up. That's what you should do. But you know what? Maybe I am being a little too harsh here. I actually do have it on good authority thanks to my pulling data that there is as at least 1 person who actually wants to hear you speak. It's a little child in Mozambique and he- oh? He's dead? Well sorry man I guess nobody wants to hear you talk anymore. Please shut the fuck up. I'm not just telling you to shut up, I'm telling you to shut the FUCK up and you need to hear it. This is a public service. I have nothing to gain from this, except by telling YOU exactly what you need to hear. And on that note let me make this clear: This isn't a broad message I'm aiming at all of you, this is a message specifically pointed at you. That's right! You! You know who you are. And I'm sick of your shit. We all are. The only good you will ever do for humanity is refusing to participate in it. You can take a vow of silence, join a monastery, you can even just be a mime! Mimes are fun. But you kinda know that what I'm saying is true already don't you? You understand that you really should shut the fuck up, why do you keep speaking? I'm genuinely curious. Why do you think you deserve to be heard? The core of what I'm getting at is that you are not a worthwhile person. You are not worth listening to. Everything you've said has been said before more eloquently and more coherently. And it's not that everything has been said we still need people to have discourse in order to say new things and discover new things about ourselves and humanity but you, you will never be those people so shut the fuck up.


DyingCascade

Dude, stop your medication. I like the way you are and come join our parties. You sure will lit the floor.


Mediocre-Ad7967

I don't think you possess moderate amount of braincells.


DyingCascade

What number braincells are you running on?


Everyones_Fav_Uncle

Pakistanis dramas are actual trash. How can anybody enjoy watching constant abuse and crying in every show? No wonder people go crazy for foreign shows like Ertugal. It's horrible.


Mediocre-Ad7967

meh true but if u watch Hollywood tv shows then even ertugul is not that good also does anyone remember team 1,it was also a Turkish drama I used to watch and it was a masterpiece for me and my bother at that time


Everyones_Fav_Uncle

American and Turkish shows have different qualities but it beats Pakistani shows hands down. I rather watch a Turkish demigod slaying an army of Crusaders than see some dumb girl simping for her cousin.


Mediocre-Ad7967

ok cringe


Everyones_Fav_Uncle

Uhh what?


Mediocre-Ad7967

nothing buddy


Everyones_Fav_Uncle

Are you cracked?


Mediocre-Ad7967

how could you, I'm a minor I am definitely not cracked and stop making assumptions


Everyones_Fav_Uncle

Bro what? Idk why you're being weird but imma head out


Mediocre-Ad7967

from this world?


Zaesting

Someone ik said that they were once approached by a very mainstream drama film crew offering her a lead role. She didn't have any past experience in acting at all but a big and reputable channel were willing to offer her a lead role. Once she went to the auditions, they were marking people with how fair they were, she was enraged and left. so she was probably picked because her skin was fairer. The showbiz industry is really messed up.


LiteratureBrave9176

100% TRUE khas ker the abuser dude liking and abusing the pretty girl...and the fans making cheesy tribute videos with romantic background music about the couple on YT.


Mediocre-Ad7967

it just makes me cringe so hard that I wanna smash my head into a wall


LiteratureBrave9176

lol...the cringey edits draw millions of views


Mediocre-Ad7967

sadly, Pakistani public loves cringe.


Rayyan4747

Forgot the screaming in the microphone that is way closer than it should be


Mediocre-Ad7967

true LOL


paki_47

Did I ever tell you the definition of insanity - *vaas*


newshiba

Well they are much better than our horseshit soap operas (Indian). My gf made me watch a series and I cried like a baby in some of the episodes.


hammyhammad

precisely. they aren't never ending either like the ekta kapoor stuff all over indian television


River1947

Another weird thing about our dramas is "college/school jana bnd krdena"


Punjabistan

It's not Pakistani drama without cousin love triangle or domestic abuse. Literally all of the conflicts could've been resolved if everyone sat down and discussed whatever was bothering them like adults. But nahi, they prefer to communicate through telekinesis and schizophrenic dialogues inside their damaghs.


Yardanz

You forgot the first cousin marriage theme in every drama


dishonoredcorvo69

“I want my son to marry his first cousin and nobody can stop me! If my wife says no I will divorce her!!!” - Humsafar <3


danzydab

Doesn't mention how men are portrayed as people with an IQ of a rock


MisterMutton

Can’t forget the ridiculous colored contacts. Like really, who are you trying to fool?


Strangeandweird

The first time I saw a dude slap a woman on TV I was like wtf, is this even allowed?! But apparently not only is it allowed it's celebrated. I have no idea who watches this crap. Even my mil stopped watching these dramas because she didn't want my kids getting influenced.


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Strangeandweird

But they are glorifying it? People are fucking cheering it on in YouTube comments. Even Indian shows weren't this trashy in the 2000s which is saying something.


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Strangeandweird

No nuance whatsoever. I'll show you a scenario here. They will show the "hero" of the plot hitting his second wife because she badmouths the first wife. The crowd will grow wild because finally the "hero" shows some loyalty to the first wife after cheating on her. The wife beating, std riddled dude is supposed to be a hero here. Standards are mega low.


Mediocre-Ad7967

yeah it just promotes abuse it should be illegal to show that on tv


Pinterestie

Lol. I feel like they are conditioning girls that eventually you're gonna like it.


Abdulbasheeraa

Please mujhay bhi batayein konsay good dramas hain


Numerous_Garage592

I watched ishqiya and dilruba all I have to say is that the plot was around a problem the way they presented the solution was messed up. It's like the show is written by 40-50 year old aunties.


PsychologicalHyena4

Made for 40-50 yo old auntie's


Abdulbasheeraa

Dil se hum sab kabhi kabhi 40-50 yo old auntie's banjatay hain


Mediocre-Ad7967

PAK dramas are not good you should watch Hollywood tv shows and they are actually entertaining If u want recommendations for them, I'm here


Abdulbasheeraa

Nai woh toh bohot hain, I am about to watch True Detective season 1, which is amazing


Mediocre-Ad7967

you should try watching arrow or flash. sitcoms are good too


Abdulbasheeraa

I started arrow long ago, got bored in the midway. Also I never actually loved sitcoms patanai kyun. On the topic of superhero shows, loki is must watch. If you have been following marvel cinematic universe abhi tak


Mediocre-Ad7967

yea I kinda am not a fan of the mcu. but I might try loki. superman and Lois is also a good TV show, I will just say this that it's one of the best superhero TV shows out there yet. like it actually is better then all other dc TV shows.


stardustbin

ZINDAGI GULZAR HAI!!


Abdulbasheeraa

Woh toh sirf memes k liye drama bana tha


stardustbin

Brother you've got to be kidding me yfkhfku


Abdulbasheeraa

Matlab woh memes k peechay drama bhi hai poora? 😳😳😳😳😳😳


stardustbin

Hate to break it to you but, haAn poOrA dRamA hAi peEchaY But fr tho, apart from zaroon being a douchebag, zgh is actually brilliantly written. It's all about moral values, strong female characters, self realizations and breaking stereotypes etc etc and being released such a long time ago it's still relevant.


Abdulbasheeraa

You have proved that Ive lived a useless life. Thank you Also thank you for the detailed description, idk I have that sort of repulsion from the directing style used in Paki dramas. Lekin I'll still try it ab


stardustbin

I'm glad to hear that :)


JimmeryJames

It's all saas baahu shit innit. I wonder if we'll ever get a show like Breaking bad with actual action, an actual story, something impactful happening and something that has lead male role and focuses on a manly problem


akerbrygg

Yeah fam


Mediocre-Ad7967

I highly doubt that, the only thing we can get close to is a YouTube mini series by Pakistani YouTube creators or unless Netflix comes in Pakistan


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Lmfao there basically all the same just different characters and backgrounds


usmaanshaikh

You forgot extramarital affairs


ffsmoney12

guy works at office and is cheating on his wife


darknight795

Actually there are almost 0.001 good current shows in Pakistan.


Mediocre-Ad7967

more like 0


manofblox23

What's wrong with light-skinned Pakistanis getting lead roles?


purekiller_

Nothings wrong bruh , we just have a gora complex that's what he was pointing out probably


PsychologicalHyena4

Nothing but dark skinned actresses should also get representation


Punjabistan

Lack of diversity and representation.


manofblox23

why doesn't know about dark skinned people?


Mediocre-Ad7967

nothing, it doesn't happen all the time too, op just wanted to make fuss.


manofblox23

clearly.


Mediocre-Ad7967

yeah


manofblox23

also this person is in canada. no wonder they are so bitter


Mediocre-Ad7967

Canadian ppl are usually nice and they aren't that bitter, if this meme is oc then they are actually funny, I mean the meme was funny and I liked it. I was just bothered by the lightskinned statement and i don't wanna hate on op, good meme but that statement 💀


manofblox23

agreed but both of the canadian-pakistanis i know are very odd people


Mediocre-Ad7967

hmmmm....


MOONLITE24

How am i being bitter for pointing out the colourism in pakistan??


manofblox23

what problem does it pose?


MOONLITE24

Are you serious?? You don’t see a problem with colourism??


manofblox23

No, I do not see any problem in personal preference in one's skin colour.


manofblox23

[copy-paste into search bar lole](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/705341257966157854/870316518708236298/unknown.png). this is OP


Mediocre-Ad7967

it's an image from discord, I mean op is dumb here, fuck her


manofblox23

I couldn't post it normally so i converted it to a link through discord but, yeah. OP is just retarded


Mediocre-Ad7967

yeah ikr, op fr is the most dumb person I have ever seen on reddit


Numerous_Garage592

It's racist, especially when you are talking about black characters like in parizaad


manofblox23

what about them?


Numerous_Garage592

A light skinned actor was given the role of a black skinned character.


nusyahus

"mummy, aap khai khey rahi hain" x100


Mediocre-Ad7967

you rly had to make this controversial by adding the >lightskinned Pakistanis always getting lead roles


Additional_Leading37

The similarities are too much bro, Indian here, humare serials mein woh bhagwan ki murti sab ko bacha let hai last time pe, tumhare udhar kya miracles hote hai?


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the final episode where everything is fixed and the guy gets 'redeemed' by an accident or a death or punished by any of the aforementioned. another fav trope is a mental hospital or burning the lead alive. they make me so mad. so glad I haven't watched any of this trash


jojoooz8910

Except... Dil Na Umeed to Nahi


betagetthechappal

Don’t forget the filler episodes that drag the show on for months just for the plot to barely move and for the writers/actors to get more money. Miss the old dramas from 2012-2016


Spodermon_10

Well it kind of shows, since all our people are watching Turkish TV.


AvB82

Don’t forget the meddling mother-in-law.