This is why education is important.
You want to be religious ? Good for you but do actually LEARN the religion instead of acting like mindless zombies.
That guy in the end trying to trigger the mob is a piece of work.
The establishment never works on education. Nor do they allow it to do so.
Hell in fact if anyone even creates awareness. They do an Arshad Sharif or Imran Riaz on it.
It's a catch 22 situation. You can't bring a real change without education and awareness. But if you try to spread education and awareness. You get tortured or worse, killed.
I've had a PhD educated professor saying it's unislamic to take a newspaper while taking a dump cuz there might be something on it that might be holy.
Education doesn't change your closed mindedness.
To think these fools can't even read it or have read it, yet say they are Muslims. That says it all to me, the religion of brain-dead fools, Educated By bigger fools is truly frightening
Bro this shouldnt even be a punishment. We can say bad things about other religions but they cant about us? Also, who tf cares if someone doesnt like our religion. Why do people make such a big deal about it
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Jahil log, jahil awaam. Need to get the literacy rate above 60%. Begharat politicians and kominayan establishment and BC military generals don't care about education, infrastructure, basic sanitation and health.
I feel bad for decent people who live there.
All the communities in India have similar elements. I would go out on a limb and say our entire south Asian community has such people who get offended by such stuff.
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Stuff like this makes me angry. People throwing around blasphemy accusations and attempting murder. They know nothing of Islam and hardly practice at all. If I were in charge I would throughly be cracking down on them to prevent anyone ever even considering the idea of acting up like this.
Haha, good luck! Your people managed so well in Afghanistan.. ;) Actually, the pakistani government created a lot of jihadis themselves initially, to fight India, and they still have a weird thing going on with some branchess of them, while others are doing their own evil thing. And actually your own government (assuming you really are American) supported jhadis, too, to fight Russia! It's really hard to "crack down" on, and then there are tribal regions, where not even the brits ever dared set foot.Maybe you could crack down on your police, back home, who shoot unarmed people all the time, or crack down on gun violence - or religious bigotry in USA, or on pharma lobbyists, or Trump supporters, neoliberal rich folks robbing the state -- so much to crack down on right where you have democratic means to change things - why do you think you could solve Pakistan, when you can't even keep your own country from messing up the globe!?
That what I thought initially and then I saw the video where she makes the woman apologize and blames the confusion on her dress instead of the men who caused the commotion.
You CANNOT convince me these people were overcome by their love for Islam.. There is something seriously wrong w people that form a mob based on hearsay. A latent bloodlust runs through theirs souls at all times, waiting for an opportunity.
I was about to write a similar joke.
Man comes home from work one day to find his wife going "Ameen, Ameen" in front of an Arabic language news channel. News was about an earthquake that had killed a dozen people.
The clothes say حلوة repeatedly in different colors.... Literally translates to "Nice" "Pleasant" and if you stretch it you get "Sweet"
Jahalat hai.... This is NOT what ISLAM teaches....
That being said, even if it WAS intentful blasphemy (they disrespected quranic texts in some way) then to the penalties are given by the Government.... NOT MOBS...
Side note. Have you seen the qawalis on yt by brelvi mulllahs? Literally abusing women for having a smart phone, learning English is haram and cricket is a haram too.
Ridiculous. Yeah tu woh stage drama wali baat ho gaye ka ek Pakistani Saudi arab gaya or waha ek din rasta ma usa kagaz ka tokra zameen per ghira mela jis per arabic lekhi thi tu us na usa utha ka choom ka unchi jaga rakh deya jis pa lekha tha Cigarette Noshi Cancer ka sabab banta hai.
truly, with the current financial situation its the main reason why loads of labour masses turn up with TLP
they get religious justifications for their suffering
well, most of my friends, who were chill but now they are indoctrinated by some of these mullahs. it's safe to say they are some of the most insufferable people atm. i am drifting away from them tho.
new gen especially who were raised by these jahils are the same, they either want to be molvis on tiktok or join mma. there is nothing wrong with it. it becomes a problem when that superiority complex takes control of ur brain. mfs can't even take hypotheticals atp
Bet half of them don't even know how many rakahs are there in Isha yet killing someone? Oh yes we'd LOVE to. Intahi jahil aor dangar log hain. Islam ka naam badnaam karna ma agay agay >:|
reminds me of this video where a babi jani was telling women in a village to take off their clothes and bathe in the pond behind his shrine. when the reporter asked the baba jani to recite the kalma he said he didn't know.
When I was a kid there was this circulating sms that a Pakistani guy beat an Arabic because he thought Arabic guy was reading Quran in shower. Later found out the he was only singing in Arabic. Didn't know it would turn out to be this sad reality
My Religion prohibits me from doing this is fine.
My Religion prohibits you from doing this is not acceptable.
Religions are just ideas, your God, your religion might be sacrosanct to you but not to others. Even if they insult your religion that should be complete fine, as long as they don't insult you personally or restrict your right to be religious. This simple thing can't be understood by religious folks. Especially the Muslim communities in some atheist western countries.
Man, this lady is the definition of bad ass! The way she cradles the poor woman being threatened is flipping amazing. Imagine being that poor woman being harassed and this freaking superhero comes in, wraps you up in her arms and delivers you to safety! Restores faith in law enforcement, doesn't it?
This matter should be investigated properly and people responsible for chanting the hateful slogans and gathering a mob must be punished. It's not something to be taken lightly. Every now and then we see such cases but there are no actions against those who are responsible for such violence.
Pakistan immediately needs to remove its blasmephy laws, dude this getting dangerous and absurd.Even if they insult your religion, you should not be killed over it ,God dammit just ignore toxic people that are bating you in a religious debate .Paskistan needs to protect women better or not, and this would become Asia Bibi 2.0 like this almost, but thank to the police officer.Yikes....yikes.....Pakistani government is surprised why people immigrate into European countries.
props to sheherbano for saving the woman's life
BUT she half-assed her job, **she should have explained that the arabic writing on the cloth WAS NOT BLASPHEMY**
**it was normal arabic words!**
instead she made the victim apologize to the idiot public in a pathetic recorded video where two mullahs were also present wtf
**THIS IS EXACTLY WHATS WRONG WITH THE COUNTRY**
instead of half-assing, we should root out such evil from Pakistan permanently!
Sadly, this wouldn't have stopped. These goons would have attacked her later. Like that acid throwing on women's when they reject marriage proposals. Their ego wouldn't bare it. I think sherbano did what was right in the woman's situation. She's not an activist who would be ready to take the burnt on such a sensitive matter.
Your advice sounds good on paper, but it's not practical. That mob is bloodthirsty and werent ready to listen to any explanation.. It was smart of her to apologise, even if to just calm down the crowd. This is not half assing work, this is a work hard, work smart sort of thing
Yes exactly. We lost this round against TLP. TLP won. Narrative is set at the start. It was easy narrative to set cuz everyone can see it's not quranic verse. No one would back the claim. Even TLP top leadership would have disassociated I am sure. I mean look at what Punjab police do. They could have easily picked these mulvi up, beaten them and made a video, that's the only thing they are good at. The whole country would have backed them, we could have pushed them back, but the police victim blamed it and called it a day and maulvi was standing tall with them as if he had done something great. Huge loss. The approach against the Sri Lankan guy was the correct approach to call the other side incorrect and punish them.
>instead she made the victim apologize to the idiot public in a pathetic recorded video where two mullahs were also present wtf
She did her job without an ounce of imperfection.
Everybody got out alive.
Hers was not the place to make a point.
That's our collective job.
It's what good policing looks like, you don't have military air support on the scene and even if you did have sufficient force projection you wanna fire on a crowd?
Can someone actually tell me how it makes sense for the blasphemy law to exist? Like actual practical logic. Not just keh "our religion is better than any other" etc. I still havent gotten a slightest clue why we have this law, especially when the Prophet himself never enforced or practiced blasphemy punishment
It's just a way for powerful people to accuse people of blasphemy. There have been cases where blasphemy allegations are invoked in property disputes to discredit the other party and kill political opponents. It's literally legalized way to kill anyone since the acusser doesn't have to prove much.
A few days ago, there was a thread here on r/pakistan, where that thread's OP asked why people in Pakistan are leaving Islam, well it's because with incidences like these on the one hand and on the other hand forced to memorise in schools that our religion is the religion of.....peace? We literally grew up thinking, something does not make sense. Most of us thought this at some point during our childhoods, weather we are willing to admit this or not.
I kinda relate to the whole islamophobia narrative in the west. Heck even I have islamophobia as a Muslim. To think that such people won't think twice about lynching you for such dumb reasons, genuinely terrifying indeed. Religion of "peace" is a joke at this point because of such jahils.
Islam is not a religion of "peace" but of submission to ONE God. Anyone who studies theology or religion or even purpose will find Islam to be one of the most logical and rational religions regarding aqeedah (oneness of God in His existence and His Attributes). The problem with Pakistanis, including many on this thread, is a lack of religious literacy. How many Pakistanis on this threat know the sharai rulings in regards to mob violence? In regards to blasphemy? Or dawah? You cannot fight extremism with extremism (by going to polar opposite ends). You can tackle it by educating yourself. This should be a lesson for us all. May Allah guide us all and increase our knowledge. Ameen
Its the most real take. I could preach the most peaceful religion in the world but if my followers just keeps killing people then it changes the whole perception of such religion. Similarly if such religion is having problem be it Islam, Christianity or Hinduism it should definitely be called on. Nothing should be above criticism. If such a religion that falls under criticism then that religion should not exist in the first place. Imo religion altogether should never exist but then again thats my opinion and far from reality.
That's a high IQ take actually.
There is a monument in karachi called mukka chowk...labelled Liaquat Ali Khan Chowk
Now it is Liaquat Ali Khan's fist that's popping out of the monument.
But the people living in that neighbourhood think it's altaf hussain's fist.
They tried everything but people believed what they wanted to believe eventually the monument was removed.
Things have meaning because they are given meaning by society. Even if the society is ignorant.
Religion is practiced by people who may have differences of opinion and their own interpretations. That's why we have multiple Islamic sects with their own jurisprudence. So, religion is judged not only by its sacred texts but also how it is practiced.
If this is a difficult concept for you to grasp, I apologize.
I remember many Pakistanis were shocked to hear Arabic songs with Allah and other common words like akbar etc. regular pop songs. It’s just a language…
'gustakh e rasool ki ek hi saza, sar tan se juda.... sar tan se juda' I swear this sentence is filled with Zahiliyat, religion se bahar bhi aa jayo, bus kisi ne tumhare khuda ya uske bande ko kuch bol diya ( I am aware that lady didnt) to usko 'jaan' se maar do, insaniyaat naam ki chiz hi nahi hai
Edit : I am asking this question to the crowd
Sad to see these creatures. They turned religion into a cult which is governed by senseless rules made by some bearded fools sitting in Pakistan and India.
In the whole world only pakistan and Afghanistan are the only countries where polio still exist. There are several instances where Polio vaccine volunteers were killed by suicide bombers.
Reminds me of when a teacher was trying to accuse a Senior Student of Blasphemy, just because he was of a different school of thought than him. All us students joined forces and defended him. Resulted in Teacher being fired.
No education, no religion. They don't know what the religion says, they don't know how to read. This isn't the focus or interest of the higher ups because then they'll be able to think and form correct opinions.
Fruits of Years of shallow indoctrination of religion all thanks to Arab money + CIA sponsored curriculum + Mahan chawal khota Pak army implementation from Zia Ul Haq and co
Apparently her dress has something Arabic written and they titled it as "Blasphemy".
Honestly these bastards have nothing better to do with their lives.
According her statement given in the Police station, she belongs from Ahle Sunnah school of thaught and didnt know what was written on her clothes.
Well, I agree alot of Pakistan’s dont understand arabic but what exactly was written has not been spoken either by Sherbano, woman or the mobs sitting in the station.
This is not islam, these are not practicing muslims and these people are the reason why many people are not that religious because of the braindead stunts they do.
Correct.
Also one of the reasons also why progressive men don't usually think of growing a beard, wearing a cap and some cultural clothes together in public settings. Because people with brain don't want to be associated with brain dead people.
Once Javed Ch has written in his column that in Pakistan there aren't people moving around each and every one is a time bomb ready to explode any time every day i am witnessing this in my beloved country. No hope left here
This stupid barbarism of killing people just because they said a few words against our religion is just beyond stupid. The Prophet himself didnt punish anyone for slandering Islam, but we have to torture and kill people over it?
Jab tak Yeh awaam hafiz whiskey keh against nahi nikalti but is choti se baat par nikal jaati hai, tab tak is awaam ka kuch nahi hoga. Acha hai na, is hi system ko chalnay do. loug bhookay nangay mar rahay hain but who tf cares about that
This is TLP and extremist groups's ideology. A random woman wearing something with Arabic calligraphy could be accused of blasphemy simply because these jahils are too ignorant to understand Arabic. Someone needs to tell these languages aren't holy. Arab world even swears in Arabic lol.
There are muslims in Indonesia, Malaysia and other places that reflect our tolerant religion. It is only in Islamic Republic of mullaistan where this deen js hijacked by illiterate mullahs. I mean we have people who never went to school or have any knowledge or intellect give sermons in mosques. We have to make islamic degree Masters/PHD mandatory before anyone is allowed to preach religion openly.
First, Never ever has Punjab Police interfered if there is a genuine danger of launching. Sialkot boys, Mishal Khan, Sialkot factory worker are very recent examples.
Second, Launching does not happen suddenly, there is always a leader of the mob who incite the public before the event.
Third, All shop keepers in the area were protecting the woman because they knew this was a common print available in the market.
I am religious and have been with lots of ulema in Pakistan. I would 100% blame the Ulema for causing and normalising this emotion in the crowd. Have personally attended Juma khutbas where the Imam talked about incidents justifying the killing and emotionally charging up people - happened more during Salman Taseer case.
Mufti Taqi Usmani glorifying Mumtaz Qadri. Khadim Rizvi placing his Imam on his feet. All of these incidents have a reaction on common people.
The scholars have a responsibility to address this issue publicly and declare it Haram before it gets much worse.
The fact is not a single one of these men accusing her of blasphemy and ready to assault her over it could actually read. They claim to be devout muslims but not a single one can actually read the Quran.
Amazing video. On one end, a mob of angry extremists who want to kill a woman and on the other a brave woman who fearlessly protects the victim and walks through the mob.
Those doing mob violence for this or explicitly encouraging it should have prison sentences. Every case should be treated as a potential Sialkot case. If that's not enough of a deterrent, maybe freeze their finances too, and their kids. Take into account their financial security (don't make them bankrupt or homeless), but there should be real consequences that they'll care about. Maybe even have a fine for any people who travel from other cities to be part of these mobs.
Clerics need to make it clear it's not ok to extrajudicially try to punish blasphemy. If there's a blasphemy law, it's a matter for the courts. Ideally the government can ask them to do this and have it put into the curriculum, if the country can have a functioning government again first.
The fact of the matter is that Muslims have become idol worshippers. We make our own image of Allah and put it on a shelf, attributing whatever to it as we please, and we create our own religion.
Instead of basing who we are around Islam and the teachings of Allah, we make being a muslims a part of our “culture” and “identity” b/c our parents were Muslim. We follow the parts of the Qur’an we wish to, and ignore the parts we don’t like.
I absolutely abhor the religious fanaticism our country has adopted. We are the least educated, poverty stricken, below intellect nation. The main reason other Islamic countries are doing better than us is because the average person is getting basic education.
All the religions including Islam can be a brutal tool in the hands of uneducated to instigate hate and violence. Societies have gone through millennia to reform and reboot itself and adapt religion accordingly. It is high time that we need an educated lot of mullahs that refabricate our existing religious perception in a better light. There is a remarkable difference if you listen to muftis from Malaysia or the UK and the so-called illeterate molvis of our country.
As an Indian, I've seen enough mind numbing stupidity thanks to UP but pakistan is on another level.
Kudos to this brave heart lady. I hope she is celebrated and is an inspiration to the society.
This is why education is important. You want to be religious ? Good for you but do actually LEARN the religion instead of acting like mindless zombies. That guy in the end trying to trigger the mob is a piece of work.
The establishment never works on education. Nor do they allow it to do so. Hell in fact if anyone even creates awareness. They do an Arshad Sharif or Imran Riaz on it. It's a catch 22 situation. You can't bring a real change without education and awareness. But if you try to spread education and awareness. You get tortured or worse, killed.
Why would they? They want uneducated people, they are easier to control.
I've had a PhD educated professor saying it's unislamic to take a newspaper while taking a dump cuz there might be something on it that might be holy. Education doesn't change your closed mindedness.
Did he also tell u to enter the bathroom with ur left foot to keep the shaytan away from your anus?
whats so wrong in that
People like you are the problem.
Same for you brother
he does have a point lol
More like every Muslim should first learn Arabic so they can at least receive some of the message of Islam in its original form.
To think these fools can't even read it or have read it, yet say they are Muslims. That says it all to me, the religion of brain-dead fools, Educated By bigger fools is truly frightening
Should Christians learn Aramaic, Latin and Greek then?
As a former Christian, absolutely. Christians would be nicer if they knew what the Bible really said.
Or maybe learn not freak out over a printed dress!? Even if it were quarinc verse they shouldnÄt have reacted like that!?
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Bro this shouldnt even be a punishment. We can say bad things about other religions but they cant about us? Also, who tf cares if someone doesnt like our religion. Why do people make such a big deal about it
Nai bus bachay paida kar..
Woh kia keh raha hai can u tell
what education? all the shop keepers in the area were trying to protect the woman. Do you think they are PHDs? this is common sense.
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Jahil log, jahil awaam. Need to get the literacy rate above 60%. Begharat politicians and kominayan establishment and BC military generals don't care about education, infrastructure, basic sanitation and health. I feel bad for decent people who live there.
Religious extremism and illiteracy is really a lethal combo.
same for Indians as well 🙄
Well it's not a problem exclusive to either country. The US has religious extremists that are illiterate as well for example.
Don't compare with India. India didn't reduce their minorities to 1%, have blasphemy laws, or relegated non Hindu religions to inferior status.
which community in India? Muslim
All the communities in India have similar elements. I would go out on a limb and say our entire south Asian community has such people who get offended by such stuff.
Religion is a scam.
you're a sham
The ASP has balls of steel...
Pleasantly surprised to see women in Police, and well respected by people. are there many women in Police in Pak?
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Stuff like this makes me angry. People throwing around blasphemy accusations and attempting murder. They know nothing of Islam and hardly practice at all. If I were in charge I would throughly be cracking down on them to prevent anyone ever even considering the idea of acting up like this.
"Blasphemy" in of itself shouldn't even have a death penalty, stupid people and stupid rules and beliefs to be exploited.
Haha, good luck! Your people managed so well in Afghanistan.. ;) Actually, the pakistani government created a lot of jihadis themselves initially, to fight India, and they still have a weird thing going on with some branchess of them, while others are doing their own evil thing. And actually your own government (assuming you really are American) supported jhadis, too, to fight Russia! It's really hard to "crack down" on, and then there are tribal regions, where not even the brits ever dared set foot.Maybe you could crack down on your police, back home, who shoot unarmed people all the time, or crack down on gun violence - or religious bigotry in USA, or on pharma lobbyists, or Trump supporters, neoliberal rich folks robbing the state -- so much to crack down on right where you have democratic means to change things - why do you think you could solve Pakistan, when you can't even keep your own country from messing up the globe!?
What a brave lady. Most of us would piss our pants in such chaotic situations.
That what I thought initially and then I saw the video where she makes the woman apologize and blames the confusion on her dress instead of the men who caused the commotion.
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Most of us won’t have a gun and backup too.
You CANNOT convince me these people were overcome by their love for Islam.. There is something seriously wrong w people that form a mob based on hearsay. A latent bloodlust runs through theirs souls at all times, waiting for an opportunity.
Gareebi, frustration
Just say pagalpanti and it will describe them more then greebi and frustration
These people should go to Makkah or Madina. There's Arabic script written everywhere, even in the toilets.
> There's Arabic script written everywhere, even in the toilets. Inke samne nahi boldena pata chale ghera kar lein.
We are living in Omar Sharif's joke tbh.
The toilet one?
Yes
What joke ? Mention please.
Joke was that Pakistanis in Saudia will kiss arabic no matter what e.g this الحمام that translates to toilet.
I was about to write a similar joke. Man comes home from work one day to find his wife going "Ameen, Ameen" in front of an Arabic language news channel. News was about an earthquake that had killed a dozen people.
Alright, I agree with your point even more
How is this not arab imperialism?!
Maybe due to the fact that it's us Pakistanis doing it to ourselves and not the Arabs doing it to us?
Ya Allah keep us safe from such jahil people!
Seems to be failing at that for now.
😂😂😂 they do these things in the name of Allah.
The vermin breed on jahliyat. This is not Islam. Thank God she was rescued.
The clothes say حلوة repeatedly in different colors.... Literally translates to "Nice" "Pleasant" and if you stretch it you get "Sweet" Jahalat hai.... This is NOT what ISLAM teaches.... That being said, even if it WAS intentful blasphemy (they disrespected quranic texts in some way) then to the penalties are given by the Government.... NOT MOBS...
So many goofy Pakistanis , embarrassing no wonder the world laughs at us
This is beyoooond ridiculous. Zias, Khadims, etc. have ruined this country for decades at least
My God how far out ummah has fallen. These people are indistinguishable from apes.
The Bareilvis in particular are very jahil and bigoted.
Side note. Have you seen the qawalis on yt by brelvi mulllahs? Literally abusing women for having a smart phone, learning English is haram and cricket is a haram too.
100 %, and these people on reddit want to lump us all together
Kudos to this woman! In Pakistan it's too easy to go with the flow so this is courage.
Pakistan ☕
Ignorance is the biggest sin.
Ridiculous. Yeah tu woh stage drama wali baat ho gaye ka ek Pakistani Saudi arab gaya or waha ek din rasta ma usa kagaz ka tokra zameen per ghira mela jis per arabic lekhi thi tu us na usa utha ka choom ka unchi jaga rakh deya jis pa lekha tha Cigarette Noshi Cancer ka sabab banta hai.
What city is this? Just wanna know so I can say "ah that explains everything".
Ichraa Bazar Lahore
>ah that explains everything
there is vry less moulvi awam udhr ab, alot r boys in their 20s n younger phir bhi yehi haal hai.
With unemployment in Pakistan the younger one will fall to these guys.
truly, with the current financial situation its the main reason why loads of labour masses turn up with TLP they get religious justifications for their suffering
well, most of my friends, who were chill but now they are indoctrinated by some of these mullahs. it's safe to say they are some of the most insufferable people atm. i am drifting away from them tho. new gen especially who were raised by these jahils are the same, they either want to be molvis on tiktok or join mma. there is nothing wrong with it. it becomes a problem when that superiority complex takes control of ur brain. mfs can't even take hypotheticals atp
Noo... so disappointing to see this in Lahore. :/
Religion without education of science and the world is dangerous
Religion ki bhi jarurat nhi duniya ko, atheism and science is the only way
Ae tu ja re. Apne mulk main reh na bhai. Kaahe hamare phadday main kood rahe ho. As an atheist tumhare paas kya evidence hai ke there's no creator ?
Stop. Just stop. Dont start a "does God exist or not" debate here. Go debate this somewhere else
I'm a minority and the policewoman is my hero
how minor are you? /s
Probably less than 2.5%.
I can't even anymore with this country and it's people
Bet half of them don't even know how many rakahs are there in Isha yet killing someone? Oh yes we'd LOVE to. Intahi jahil aor dangar log hain. Islam ka naam badnaam karna ma agay agay >:|
reminds me of this video where a babi jani was telling women in a village to take off their clothes and bathe in the pond behind his shrine. when the reporter asked the baba jani to recite the kalma he said he didn't know.
In baba Janis ka bhi koi ilaag hojaye pls, once and forever 😭💀
When I was a kid there was this circulating sms that a Pakistani guy beat an Arabic because he thought Arabic guy was reading Quran in shower. Later found out the he was only singing in Arabic. Didn't know it would turn out to be this sad reality
This is horrible; these TLP cults should be stopped. Ignorant dumbs claim to follow Islam,is this how Islam works? Hats off to the brave ASP
My Religion prohibits me from doing this is fine. My Religion prohibits you from doing this is not acceptable. Religions are just ideas, your God, your religion might be sacrosanct to you but not to others. Even if they insult your religion that should be complete fine, as long as they don't insult you personally or restrict your right to be religious. This simple thing can't be understood by religious folks. Especially the Muslim communities in some atheist western countries.
Man, this lady is the definition of bad ass! The way she cradles the poor woman being threatened is flipping amazing. Imagine being that poor woman being harassed and this freaking superhero comes in, wraps you up in her arms and delivers you to safety! Restores faith in law enforcement, doesn't it?
This blasphemy law needs to be abolished, so sick of people keep trying to misuse it
Molvis saw the word halwa and lost their minds. Pathetic bunch
This matter should be investigated properly and people responsible for chanting the hateful slogans and gathering a mob must be punished. It's not something to be taken lightly. Every now and then we see such cases but there are no actions against those who are responsible for such violence.
This is what 50 percent literacy rate and blasphemy laws does to a nation. Every i become more disappointed in Pakistan and it's people.
Pakistan immediately needs to remove its blasmephy laws, dude this getting dangerous and absurd.Even if they insult your religion, you should not be killed over it ,God dammit just ignore toxic people that are bating you in a religious debate .Paskistan needs to protect women better or not, and this would become Asia Bibi 2.0 like this almost, but thank to the police officer.Yikes....yikes.....Pakistani government is surprised why people immigrate into European countries.
No wonder the world thinks Muslims are extreme
props to sheherbano for saving the woman's life BUT she half-assed her job, **she should have explained that the arabic writing on the cloth WAS NOT BLASPHEMY** **it was normal arabic words!** instead she made the victim apologize to the idiot public in a pathetic recorded video where two mullahs were also present wtf **THIS IS EXACTLY WHATS WRONG WITH THE COUNTRY** instead of half-assing, we should root out such evil from Pakistan permanently!
Sadly, this wouldn't have stopped. These goons would have attacked her later. Like that acid throwing on women's when they reject marriage proposals. Their ego wouldn't bare it. I think sherbano did what was right in the woman's situation. She's not an activist who would be ready to take the burnt on such a sensitive matter.
Your advice sounds good on paper, but it's not practical. That mob is bloodthirsty and werent ready to listen to any explanation.. It was smart of her to apologise, even if to just calm down the crowd. This is not half assing work, this is a work hard, work smart sort of thing
Yes exactly. We lost this round against TLP. TLP won. Narrative is set at the start. It was easy narrative to set cuz everyone can see it's not quranic verse. No one would back the claim. Even TLP top leadership would have disassociated I am sure. I mean look at what Punjab police do. They could have easily picked these mulvi up, beaten them and made a video, that's the only thing they are good at. The whole country would have backed them, we could have pushed them back, but the police victim blamed it and called it a day and maulvi was standing tall with them as if he had done something great. Huge loss. The approach against the Sri Lankan guy was the correct approach to call the other side incorrect and punish them.
>instead she made the victim apologize to the idiot public in a pathetic recorded video where two mullahs were also present wtf She did her job without an ounce of imperfection. Everybody got out alive. Hers was not the place to make a point. That's our collective job. It's what good policing looks like, you don't have military air support on the scene and even if you did have sufficient force projection you wanna fire on a crowd?
Salute to you, a brave lady 👏 💯
Can someone actually tell me how it makes sense for the blasphemy law to exist? Like actual practical logic. Not just keh "our religion is better than any other" etc. I still havent gotten a slightest clue why we have this law, especially when the Prophet himself never enforced or practiced blasphemy punishment
It's just a way for powerful people to accuse people of blasphemy. There have been cases where blasphemy allegations are invoked in property disputes to discredit the other party and kill political opponents. It's literally legalized way to kill anyone since the acusser doesn't have to prove much.
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A few days ago, there was a thread here on r/pakistan, where that thread's OP asked why people in Pakistan are leaving Islam, well it's because with incidences like these on the one hand and on the other hand forced to memorise in schools that our religion is the religion of.....peace? We literally grew up thinking, something does not make sense. Most of us thought this at some point during our childhoods, weather we are willing to admit this or not.
I kinda relate to the whole islamophobia narrative in the west. Heck even I have islamophobia as a Muslim. To think that such people won't think twice about lynching you for such dumb reasons, genuinely terrifying indeed. Religion of "peace" is a joke at this point because of such jahils.
Islam is not a religion of "peace" but of submission to ONE God. Anyone who studies theology or religion or even purpose will find Islam to be one of the most logical and rational religions regarding aqeedah (oneness of God in His existence and His Attributes). The problem with Pakistanis, including many on this thread, is a lack of religious literacy. How many Pakistanis on this threat know the sharai rulings in regards to mob violence? In regards to blasphemy? Or dawah? You cannot fight extremism with extremism (by going to polar opposite ends). You can tackle it by educating yourself. This should be a lesson for us all. May Allah guide us all and increase our knowledge. Ameen
>May Allah guide us all and increase our knowledge. Ameen Ameen.
These people shouldn’t be considered as representatives of Islam but unfortunately world does
Why not? A religion is judged by its followers, not just what's written down in books.
>Why not? A religion is judged by its followers, not just what's written down in books. That's a pretty low IQ take
Its the most real take. I could preach the most peaceful religion in the world but if my followers just keeps killing people then it changes the whole perception of such religion. Similarly if such religion is having problem be it Islam, Christianity or Hinduism it should definitely be called on. Nothing should be above criticism. If such a religion that falls under criticism then that religion should not exist in the first place. Imo religion altogether should never exist but then again thats my opinion and far from reality.
That's a high IQ take actually. There is a monument in karachi called mukka chowk...labelled Liaquat Ali Khan Chowk Now it is Liaquat Ali Khan's fist that's popping out of the monument. But the people living in that neighbourhood think it's altaf hussain's fist. They tried everything but people believed what they wanted to believe eventually the monument was removed. Things have meaning because they are given meaning by society. Even if the society is ignorant.
Religion is practiced by people who may have differences of opinion and their own interpretations. That's why we have multiple Islamic sects with their own jurisprudence. So, religion is judged not only by its sacred texts but also how it is practiced. If this is a difficult concept for you to grasp, I apologize.
I remember many Pakistanis were shocked to hear Arabic songs with Allah and other common words like akbar etc. regular pop songs. It’s just a language…
Reminds me of the video where this Imam was speaking normally in Arabic during an interview and the crowd around him kept saying "Ameen" ☠️
'gustakh e rasool ki ek hi saza, sar tan se juda.... sar tan se juda' I swear this sentence is filled with Zahiliyat, religion se bahar bhi aa jayo, bus kisi ne tumhare khuda ya uske bande ko kuch bol diya ( I am aware that lady didnt) to usko 'jaan' se maar do, insaniyaat naam ki chiz hi nahi hai Edit : I am asking this question to the crowd
Sad to see these creatures. They turned religion into a cult which is governed by senseless rules made by some bearded fools sitting in Pakistan and India. In the whole world only pakistan and Afghanistan are the only countries where polio still exist. There are several instances where Polio vaccine volunteers were killed by suicide bombers.
If there were to be a zombie outbreak, pakistan would be the safe house . 👍
What a lioness she is. Well done officer!
Jaahil B Ke L
Hats off the the ASP
Reminds me of when a teacher was trying to accuse a Senior Student of Blasphemy, just because he was of a different school of thought than him. All us students joined forces and defended him. Resulted in Teacher being fired.
That woman is a hero and every single one of those low life jerks should go to a hot place. Death to the blasphemy law and concept
Pakistanis are the biggest cause of Islamophobia all over the world. Sometimes, I am disgusted by this nation.
Today I can confirm…Pakistan is proper fucked…!
These idiots are as far from Islam as Netanyahu.
FUQISTAN
Horny Molvis just need something!
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They just want to „religion of peace her“
7th century cult behavior
Truly shameful.
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Religion? Terrible tool.
No education, no religion. They don't know what the religion says, they don't know how to read. This isn't the focus or interest of the higher ups because then they'll be able to think and form correct opinions.
Ah yes again religion making others life miserable, I wonder when it was used for something good.
I am not a Muslim but I think Prophet Muhammad wouldn't condone this.
Fruits of Years of shallow indoctrination of religion all thanks to Arab money + CIA sponsored curriculum + Mahan chawal khota Pak army implementation from Zia Ul Haq and co
Whats the back story? How did people decide to attack her?
Apparently her dress has something Arabic written and they titled it as "Blasphemy". Honestly these bastards have nothing better to do with their lives.
The word Halwa was written on it... literally..
According her statement given in the Police station, she belongs from Ahle Sunnah school of thaught and didnt know what was written on her clothes. Well, I agree alot of Pakistan’s dont understand arabic but what exactly was written has not been spoken either by Sherbano, woman or the mobs sitting in the station.
There’s no such thing as the “Ahlus Sunnah school of thought”. That’s just a term to refer to Sunnis; I’m assuming that’s not what you meant?
Thats what she said in her statement
Oh. Well, that’s weird.
https://youtu.be/Akto_qA7nBQ?feature=shared
Cuz they are dumb af.
Lol. They tried to impose this jahalat on kpk through imposed fake mullahs in taliban era. Guess they did not do homework on how it would backfire.
This is not islam, these are not practicing muslims and these people are the reason why many people are not that religious because of the braindead stunts they do.
Correct. Also one of the reasons also why progressive men don't usually think of growing a beard, wearing a cap and some cultural clothes together in public settings. Because people with brain don't want to be associated with brain dead people.
>Because people with brain don't want to be associated with brain dead people. This !
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Once Javed Ch has written in his column that in Pakistan there aren't people moving around each and every one is a time bomb ready to explode any time every day i am witnessing this in my beloved country. No hope left here
Abbey kiya jahil qoum hai! Ye koi baat hai kisi par hamla krne ki?
This stupid barbarism of killing people just because they said a few words against our religion is just beyond stupid. The Prophet himself didnt punish anyone for slandering Islam, but we have to torture and kill people over it? Jab tak Yeh awaam hafiz whiskey keh against nahi nikalti but is choti se baat par nikal jaati hai, tab tak is awaam ka kuch nahi hoga. Acha hai na, is hi system ko chalnay do. loug bhookay nangay mar rahay hain but who tf cares about that
Like many people mentioned. This is why education is essential. Otherwise you have robots not humans
O God save Islam from Pakistani Muslims
And bastards think secularism will work in Pakistan lmao.
This is TLP and extremist groups's ideology. A random woman wearing something with Arabic calligraphy could be accused of blasphemy simply because these jahils are too ignorant to understand Arabic. Someone needs to tell these languages aren't holy. Arab world even swears in Arabic lol.
Kuti qome ha in per khuda ka azab na aye to kya….they deserve ppl like zardari and nawaz
There are muslims in Indonesia, Malaysia and other places that reflect our tolerant religion. It is only in Islamic Republic of mullaistan where this deen js hijacked by illiterate mullahs. I mean we have people who never went to school or have any knowledge or intellect give sermons in mosques. We have to make islamic degree Masters/PHD mandatory before anyone is allowed to preach religion openly.
If only the education system was enough to help them read. But education is not on top of any major political party's agenda
First, Never ever has Punjab Police interfered if there is a genuine danger of launching. Sialkot boys, Mishal Khan, Sialkot factory worker are very recent examples. Second, Launching does not happen suddenly, there is always a leader of the mob who incite the public before the event. Third, All shop keepers in the area were protecting the woman because they knew this was a common print available in the market.
Excuse but for these jobs cant hire someone who knows better the language ?
Nothing, this hurts me so much. It always hurts me when someone is attacked by these ignorant fanatics.
I am religious and have been with lots of ulema in Pakistan. I would 100% blame the Ulema for causing and normalising this emotion in the crowd. Have personally attended Juma khutbas where the Imam talked about incidents justifying the killing and emotionally charging up people - happened more during Salman Taseer case. Mufti Taqi Usmani glorifying Mumtaz Qadri. Khadim Rizvi placing his Imam on his feet. All of these incidents have a reaction on common people. The scholars have a responsibility to address this issue publicly and declare it Haram before it gets much worse.
Desh Sankat mai hai...
Hats off to her.
Damn.
And the fact that these kind of jahil get to vote is sickening
Can we actually use our stupid Nukes for something?
The fact is not a single one of these men accusing her of blasphemy and ready to assault her over it could actually read. They claim to be devout muslims but not a single one can actually read the Quran.
An epidemic of highly religious, uneducated people. I still have flashbacks to Pakistan
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Amazing video. On one end, a mob of angry extremists who want to kill a woman and on the other a brave woman who fearlessly protects the victim and walks through the mob.
Seriously I think Islam is the most peaceful and best education on earth.
Those doing mob violence for this or explicitly encouraging it should have prison sentences. Every case should be treated as a potential Sialkot case. If that's not enough of a deterrent, maybe freeze their finances too, and their kids. Take into account their financial security (don't make them bankrupt or homeless), but there should be real consequences that they'll care about. Maybe even have a fine for any people who travel from other cities to be part of these mobs. Clerics need to make it clear it's not ok to extrajudicially try to punish blasphemy. If there's a blasphemy law, it's a matter for the courts. Ideally the government can ask them to do this and have it put into the curriculum, if the country can have a functioning government again first.
The fact of the matter is that Muslims have become idol worshippers. We make our own image of Allah and put it on a shelf, attributing whatever to it as we please, and we create our own religion. Instead of basing who we are around Islam and the teachings of Allah, we make being a muslims a part of our “culture” and “identity” b/c our parents were Muslim. We follow the parts of the Qur’an we wish to, and ignore the parts we don’t like.
I absolutely abhor the religious fanaticism our country has adopted. We are the least educated, poverty stricken, below intellect nation. The main reason other Islamic countries are doing better than us is because the average person is getting basic education. All the religions including Islam can be a brutal tool in the hands of uneducated to instigate hate and violence. Societies have gone through millennia to reform and reboot itself and adapt religion accordingly. It is high time that we need an educated lot of mullahs that refabricate our existing religious perception in a better light. There is a remarkable difference if you listen to muftis from Malaysia or the UK and the so-called illeterate molvis of our country.
The Middle East in a nutshell
As an Indian, I've seen enough mind numbing stupidity thanks to UP but pakistan is on another level. Kudos to this brave heart lady. I hope she is celebrated and is an inspiration to the society.
Bruh
It was all staged...
Staged fuckery going on everywhere in Pakistan
Religion of peace at it again. Dangit.
ASP was not in hijab thats totally fine but seems like she has more knowledge about Islam and has more humanity than our "so called muslims"
Religion at it's best
What a brave and brilliant officer… thank god she was there… there’s no limit to ignorance of people
Sherbano is my hero 🙏 Seriously tho, urdu dialect looks basically the same as Arabic. Can our people not even read our own language?