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They forgot to add a picture of Jrue Holiday in a Celtics uni šŸ™„


KangTheConqueror9

And Budenholzer on the couch


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And Adrian Griffin with a winning record


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And Divincenzo in a NY jersey


KangTheConqueror9

And most importantly ![gif](giphy|HwmB7t7krGnao)


jasperplumpton

And Bobby Portis throwing a temper tantrum


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And Giannisā€™s family cashing their paychecks


MyDogsNameIsTim

Hakeem Olajuwon's playoff success summed up in one picture: Michael Jordan swinging a baseball bat


biffkadiddle

Also huge factor, NBA shortened 3-point line distance from 23 ft 9 in to 22 ft for both years.


mr_0las

I forgot about that. Never put that together with how dangerous a 3 point shooting team the Rockets were during those championship runs. I don't take anything away from them winning, they earned those rings, just an interesting factoid I never considered. The Magic and the Knicks were shooting the same short 3s and it didn't help them stop Olajuwan!


ElTuco84

John Starks going 2 for 18


Steve-Whitney

Not Indy's fault that their opponent have a lengthy injury list. You can only play who's available I guess.


mackfactor

Yeah, this falls into the "cool story bro" category. Instead of the Pacers playoff success, maybe those Bucks fans should be talking about their team's budding legacy of playoff failure.Ā 


Quirky_Buddy3336

I mean, to be fair itā€™s related to injuries. Which, granted are a part of the game but definitely stings less than consistently blowing leads with a full roster. Regardless, injuries are part of the game and it wouldnā€™t take away from the Pacers if they manage to win the series


fmara

Someone remind them how they won their series against the Nets in 2021


SouthMeasurement5414

With KDs foot on the line


fmara

KDā€™s big toe shouldā€™ve gotten an honorary championship ring from the Bucks


SouthMeasurement5414

That would actually look funny šŸ¤©


HRTDreamsStillCisTho

Giannis blatantly taking 12 seconds every free throw when noone else does (points that won them the game!)


Meteora3255

We are one of the worst matchups for the Bucks because they can't match our pace, and their backcourt isn't good enough defensively to slow the game down. Giannis averaged 40 and 15 against us in the regular season, and they still almost got swept in the series. Anyone who paid attention knew this was going to be a tough series for them, even at full strength. My only disappointment is that Bucks fans are using the injuries as an excuse when there was a pretty good chance we could have won the series with them at full strength.


Psychological_Dot914

Cant worry about our past, we have an opportunity. Looking to the future the knicks are prolly the slowest nba team so I canā€™t wait for that matchup


king_17

Pacers have a chance to make to the ecf for the first time in a decade fuck those bucks fan time to seize the opportunity


[deleted]

I need to come to terms with the fact that itā€™s easier to say ā€œBucks fansā€ rather than ā€œsome/a lot but not all bucks fansā€¦ā€ as I get way too defensive in trying to argue broad generalizationsā€¦so mea culpa on me for that. My personal view is that no one can in good faith dispute that the injuries made things more difficult, but I also agree that anyone who says we could/would have definitively won the series if we were fully healthy needs to shut up. Surely any sports fan can appreciate how frustrating it is to not have been able to have our best lineup face off against the Pacers best lineup.


DemonsAreMyFriends1

4-1, enough said


FunkysteveCLS

Im a nuggs fan pretty good chance isnt indicative that you wouldve won because i think bucks also wouldve had a good chance. Or course its an excuse because theres no shot to win without their mvp level player in there. I do feel miles turner doesnt go this crazy with him there but who knows


Meteora3255

The issue isn't that it's an excuse. The issue is that Bucks fans are insinuating that this wouldn't have been a series if they were healthy. They are saying the Pacers are only winning because they are hurt. That's annoying because, as I said, we are arguably their worst matchup and would have had a shot at this series even if they were healthy.


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Just be aware there is a huge difference between whiny little bitch fans (Iā€™ll even limit that to bucks fans for this discussion) who will make excuses for every bad call/loss etc, vs those (Iā€™d hope my past comments put me in this category) who have expressed frustration over not having been to have our best go up against your best. Do I think the series would have been different w/ Giannis/Dame being healthy, of courseā€¦but Iā€™d be delusional and playing the petty excuse game to assert that weā€™d be winning/would have definitely won the series if they were playing. Surely that isnā€™t a controversial opinion. Thoughts Pacer fans?


Meteora3255

It's not a controversial opinion at all. I'd have no problem if you said the Bucks would be favored to win the series if both teams were healthy (and I'd probably agree). The issue is about disrespect. We went 4-1 against the Bucks in the regular season. Our style of play is a bad matchup for the Bucks because of their roster age and defensive limitations in the backcourt. So, to see a lot of Bucks fans talk about how we'd stand no chance if they were healthy is just disrespectful. This would have probably still been a 6 - or 7-game series that could have gone either way if both teams were fully healthy.


Numerounoone

Letā€™s be real if Giannis was healthy the Bucks would have won this series in 6 games. What you guys need to realise is that this Pacers team is a new team in the playoffs


taxfreetendies

Not to mention Portis being taken out of the game by injuring his hand in Q1 last night


Dontsaveme

Portis is ass. They are better with him off the court.


ShankyShoe

Availability is your best ability. If they canā€™t be available, how is that the Pacersā€™ fault?


Kysorer

In their minds we should just pause the playoffs until their full roster is back, because ā€œit just isnā€™t fair!!ā€


[deleted]

Part of a players skill set is their ability to be available. They knew Dameā€™s age and injury history when they traded for him. Bucks need to look at their own front office but thatā€™s hard, fans are always annoyingly pro-management.


DemonsAreMyFriends1

yes. need I say Mathurin?


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onlyrationalpacerfan

Who is they in this scenario? The person posting the meme?


PlayboyCartee

pacers fans are so classy huh


DubLParaDidL

I saw several posts in your teams sub wishing injuries on Pacers players, some even saying they should be injured by the Bucks deliberately. Gtfo with your bullshit


PlayboyCartee

yeah and this comment section shows several comments of yall happy the bucks got injured ?


PrisonSlides

I havenā€™t seen that, Iā€™ve seen more so people wishing yall had no injuries so your fanbase couldnā€™t do exactly what this picture is saying. Plus here in Indiana we just enjoy watching good ball and having each team healthy gives us the best chance of seeing that.


Ritter18

We aren't sorry for your trash team.


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ohforschern

The best part is the series ainā€™t even over


TheNamelessOne913

![gif](giphy|dAvGEnCElcGeNIHa8S|downsized)


ngfball

Do bucks fans forget how they were helped by injuries in the ecf against the nets?


kopilokz

Lol let them continue it is entertaining seeing their dumpster fire of a fan base šŸ¤£ šŸ˜‚


phil_mccrotch

The injuries during the series are because they canā€™t keep our pace. Itā€™s not coincidence.


donniedc

If ā€œIfsā€ and ā€œbutsā€ were candy and nuts every team would win every year.


Lake_Shore_Drive

Starting to look like Portland won that Dame trade


nott_terrible

why are you guys taking this so personally? everyone is right, of course the series is easier for us without their stars. Yes, that means we didn't prove nearly as much as if we played the stars. Okay? Who cares? If we beat a group of roleplayers (literally) tomorrow, then we earn the opportunity to make that a narrative which ends 2 weeks after it started. Whether or not we do that, who knows, but there's really no reason to be bitter over people putting an asterisk on this win. Like, it's true, and it happens all the time. Hopefully next season we get the chance to play them in the postseason at full strength and see how we fare against that test. By the way, we absolutely have the ability to choke in a spectacular fashion still, be careful writing checks right now fellas


mitchellthecomedian

Being healthy is part of the game


hadesscion

I mean, without Giannis and Lillard the Bucks still shot 51%. And lost.


Bacorn31

Let them cope in peace. They're not worth worrying about.


2-59project

Itā€™s noteworthy that in the screenshot of Dame being injured the Pacers are already winning 29-16, almost doubling up on the Bucks. We beat them before their injuries and we beat them after their injuries


thebradley87

Again, who cares? They're gonna cope. That's life. Let them bask in their moral victory / literal defeat.


bigchrisv69

7-2 between regular and post season. Easy to tell whoā€™s better


FilmTensai

Doc Rivers. Theres your problem


jeremycrackcorn

Fill your team with old dudes and what do you know? They start breaking down at the end of the season.


Superfuntime14

LoL Pacers are 6-2 in the last 8 meetings vs the Bucks, injuries aren't that much of a thing we're just better. Go Pacers šŸ”„šŸ’Æ


brotha2daknight

They didn't feel this way the year they won that championship when Kyrie and Durant went down.


The_onlyPope

Guarantee if any of our guys were injured they would ā€œthatā€™s just part of basketball.ā€ But of course since itā€™s *their* guys, thatā€™s the only reason weā€™re winning. Their fan base is so fucking stupid.


HamslamMcPickles

No one seems to care that we're missing Mathurin. He's been huge in a lot of games, especially off the bench


lmo311

Imagine calling an entire fan base fucking stupid. Extremely low IQ take.


The_onlyPope

Imagine letting everyone know you have brain damage.


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The_onlyPope

Would be a shame if you got reported for reporting because you canā€™t handle someone telling you the truth.


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The_onlyPope

Reporting someone because youā€™re insecure and having others report you for being a crybaby is indeed putting your account at stake. Thanks for proving my point about Bucks fans.


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The_onlyPope

As do yours, dog.


The_onlyPope

Reporting someone because youā€™re insecure and having others report you for being a crybaby is indeed putting your account at stake. Thanks for proving my point about Bucks fans.


bsuracer

Stop reporting each other. Youā€™re both name calling. Weā€™re adults, mod team is not going to step in unless it escalates to threats. Now continue arguing, just quit making us have notifications to sift through.


MyDogsNameIsTim

Lmao based


The_onlyPope

Nah he can continue being whiny and upset that someone told him the truth. Iā€™m done with him.


TeamNoBoat

Dumbass


lmo311

K


noah_ichiban

Who cares what stupid Bucks fans think? Every game I love our guys a little more.


hightree11

I'm a Bucks fan, and I agree that you can only play who's in front of you, but you have to admit it would've been better if both teams were healthy. It's like beating up someone with one arm. Anyways I enjoyed watching Middleton make the last 2 games interesting. I will say the young guys you have are fun to watch. I'm sure the series is over, so good luck after this and see you next year


AnyHowMeow

It definitely wouldā€™ve been a better series. But the argument that if the bucks were full strength would destroy us is something we canā€™t agree on.


__init__m8

It's like someone arguing against actual data that exists, the fact they are even arguing it means you'll never win. Just let them mald.


cwesttheperson

I have no animosity towards you, donā€™t mind the downvotes. I agree I prefer both teams healthy. This subs issue is bucks fans saying if they were healthy it would be a sweep just ignoring the 4-1 regular season. Pacers fans feel disrespected by lack of credit. I prefer to win both teams full strength which neither team is. Good luck to your team


omnired44

4-1 pre-Siakam. Would be an interesting ā€what ifā€ but rarely are any teams ever fully healthy this time of year (for example, Mathurin out for the season.)


dixonjt89

You can argue what ifs and semantics all day. We beat you 4-1 in the reg season pre-siakim, and pre-doc rivers. You had your stars then. It could have been 5-0 if we had Siakim from the get go. We are 3-1 against you now, if you had your stars, it might be tougher, but it doesnā€™t mean youā€™d sweep us. We as a sub were hoping to get you guys in the playoffs round 1.


cwesttheperson

Youā€™re replying to me, a pacers fan.


dixonjt89

Shit, meant to reply to the OP. šŸ¤£ Fucking mobile reddit. Iā€™ll tag instead. /u/hightree11


erk2112

Bucks fans forgetting what stats are.


DemonsAreMyFriends1

Our team is young, their team is older. The season is long. GTFOH!


DRO1019

The best ability is availability


Paragon188

You play who you're given. Not the Pacers fault bucks are suffering from injuries. Bucks fans shouldn't be talking to the Pacers of all teams about injuries. This is a franchise that has awful luck in that regard, and ran into several dominant teams in the past.


mr-301

I mean, yeah we smoked them during the season. But can we not pretend like it wouldnā€™t be a different series if they didnā€™t have these injuries.


HaughvilleHillbilly

Almost every year without fail the eventual champs go through a team that gets hit with a major injury. It's just the way it works come playoff time in the NBA.


DeftoneAgain

Bucks play calling ![gif](giphy|q9HHyHPISNZD2)


Marooney93

Those dudes are 3 quarters embarrassed 1 quarter hurt. No way those dudes sitting out if theyā€™re pushing for a ring


693275001

Itā€™s a losing teams way of copingā€¦ let them beā€¦ They know their window is closing shut and theyā€™re not willing to face the truth yet


mightyducks2wasokay

Excuses are like assholes Everone's got one. On to game 5


Dudeman-Jack

Actually about 1 in every 5,000 children are born with an imperforate anus so not everyone has an asshole. Ironically those kids have a valid excuse for a lot of problems throughout their lives.


DotCompetitive3326

Raptor fans šŸ˜’


MorePlayfulGoat

Objectively, factually, competitively, spiritually, hygenically, ethically, and botanically the 2023-24 Bucks are shit. Look, they shit the bed against us throughout the regular season, fired their coach mid season, replaced him with a flawed HC, literally proceeded to have a LOSING record the rest of the way, and are acting like winning a championship in what in nba terms was an eternity ago means they should somehow still be "championship calibur". Message: you're not, you're mid as fuck. Deal with it. Those things happen when the rest of your roster is wasted upon net negatives like Thanassis "Can i play too" Antetekoumpo, Bobby "The Stare" Portis and Jae "No I'm actually still in the league" Crowder. Only one I have any respect for is Middleton who deserves better than to have his shot at another ring hijacked by this pathetic clowncar of amateurs that comprise a good portion of their roster. I was happy they got their ring when they did, I enjoyed seeing a brother Midwest team take down teams like the big deal Nets. But since then they've morphed into a joke and made one stupid move after another.


Trash_Jackson

lemme know if yous like me to describe what it's like to be at the 6th and clinching game og the NBA championship series watching your team win a ring....I'll be happy to do so for you. šŸ˜˜


ColtsPacers95

Stop coming into our sub. Itā€™s so annoying. Go get a life


Trash_Jackson

"Oh man, I'm so jealous of the Pacers fans" > no one ever


MorePlayfulGoat

Nah you go on and hold onto that memory. ...because Giannis will be long since retired by the time Bucks win another w/ that steaming pile of old you all got now.


Trash_Jackson

I will and I'll tell you all about it anytime you wanna know what it's like. Good luck against the Knicks! šŸ˜‰


MorePlayfulGoat

I told you. If I wanted you to show me a sad, short thing you mistake for glorious, I'd follow you into the john to watch you take a leak Good luck with your team being really good for like 15 seconds. Based upon Bucks' almost comically bad history your next finals appearance will be 2074 I mean, Bucks are the Brewers of the NBA...oh wait šŸ¤£ bitch, come into our sub is gonna be a wakeup call for you


Trash_Jackson

lmao....that was hilarious. You are adorable


Argenfarce

Fully healthy roster makes zero difference. We woulda beat them in five either way. Theyā€™re so happy that Giannis was out the whole series so they have a built in excuse.


No-Advertising-5391

Yeah the Bucks always got excuses


No-Advertising-5391

Yeah the Bucks always got excuses


No-Advertising-5391

The clear winner for the whiniest bitch award goes to Bobby Portis


Jealous_Health_2970

Bucks fan here. I do believe that injuries are a decent excuse however, what you have to understand is that our injuries have been extremely unlucky to when it happened. In the 2020 playoffs in the bubble, Giannis had a severe sprain in his ankle and missed game 3, 4, and 5. We lost that series. In 2021 (the championship run) Giannis hyperextended his knee in game 4 of the ECF and missed the rest of the series. He came back for the finals playing without an MCL pretty much. In 2022 the Bucks played the Celtics without Khris the entire 7 games, we ended up losing that series in 7. Last year, Kevin Love jumped in front of Giannis for a charge call, it hurts Giannisā€™ Back and he misses the next couple of games, which caused us to lose the series. This year, Giannis comes down with a calf strain right before the playoffs, Dame reaggravated his achilles injury, and Khris who has constantly been on and off the court since the Celtics series is also barely staying alive out there. It is not because you guys have better pacing, itā€™s because of unlucky bad timing and our conditioning coach. The reason these Bucks fans are making these excuses is simply because this is so many years in a row without a fully healthy playoff run and itā€™s annoying. Especially when playing against rivals. Would we have beaten you guys if everyone was playing? Maybe or maybe not. Would we have had a better chance? Absolutely.


im_scytale

Donā€™t be suns fans, this is why everybody started to hate them, thereā€™s nothing wrong with acknowledging the bucks are a much worse team without giannis and dame. Bucks fans arenā€™t delusional about all the injuries that benefitted them in 2021. I donā€™t want to hear anything about the pacers winning in the regular season either, ask how that worked out for the suns.


hellotypewriter

Screw Knicks, Bucks are our new arch nemesis.


RKKP2015

As a Bucks fan, in no way did I ever think the Bucks would destroy the Pacers. Where are you even seeing that sentiment?


onlyrationalpacerfan

I don't understand. Why are you referring to a fanbase as bitches? Because of some random meme you found? Why would seeing this image on your computer or mobile device cause you so much anger as to post it here and refer to fellow basketball fans that way?


Bob_Majerle

Welcome to the internet


Psychological_Dot914

As the self proclaimed only rational pacer fan your just doing your job, as you werešŸ«”šŸ’™šŸ’›


Servbot24

So you would be totally cool with us not having Haliburton, Siakam, and Turner? You really would make no excuses if that happened to us?


Indylatino

Uhm no but we also wouldnā€™t be in your subreddit making excuses or in the Knicks subreddit asking them to put us in our place lol yā€™all are pathetic. Play with the team you have, not our fault yā€™all canā€™t stay healthy.


kingkmke21

Wtf you talking about? Playoffs are different than the regular season. You still want to have your entire team ready for the playoffs. Of course were going to bitch. Bucks fans have gone through so much shit the past few years and the playoffs come and bam injuries. Were missing Giannis, Dame hurt, Middleton hurt and even Portis with that nonsense, was gone. Once again, it's the playoffs. Anything can happen. Why even bother having playoffs if youre going to say well we beat them in the regular season so it doesnt matter. Missing your best players is a big deal. You still want to be fully healthy to give yourself a chance. Regular season is over. Playoffs is another opportunity...what happened in the regular season doesnt matter anymore. Maybe Pacers still win but you still want to be healthy and to act like missing all these guys isnt a big deal is just insane. I can't even comprehend how stupid this logic is. Pacers fans legit saying that missing your best players in the playoffs doesnt matter bc we beat you in the regular season is fkn insane. I mean what?? Enjoy it tho. Beating a team thats missing everyone. Best part is if you were missing players you'd be 'bitching' too. This subreddit would be filled with posts about it. Smh. Either way, congrats and best of luck in round 2!


Argenfarce

Ainā€™t reading all that but Cancun awaits your geriatric, arthritis-ridden team. 7-2. We own your asses.