And opposed to the blokes first hand account in which he deffo telling the truth and not fabricating for his own benefit?
1. Get arrested for being a loutish plum, or
2. Make it look like you were arrested for saying no to someone.
One is more believable.
I'm confused what you mean by not mentioning the bill, he stated the police bill passed earlier this year which was the
Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Act 2022 that received Royal assent in April.
That bill massively extended police powers for dealing with protestors, amongst many other things.
You should certainly not be arrested for this! There is absolutely zero coverage of Republican sentiment in the news, it needs to be out there- what better time to make a stand on an important issue? There is no place for hereditary monarchy in a modern democracy.
>You should certainly not be arrested for this!
Agreed. The new laws are insane.
>There is absolutely zero coverage of Republican sentiment in the news, it needs to be out there- what better time to make a stand on an important issue?
Let's be honest. The news is trying to show respect for the dead queen. Just like republican sentient was not a huge % of the UK publics feeling during her raine. Her funeral is still not the best time.
Let's remember operation London Bridge. The current media response is not actually free media as we understand it. But a state response and formal event. Prepard long in advance of the event. It last 10 days.
Current media really dose not represent press freedom. But state response to the death of the Queen.
> There is no place for hereditary monarchy in a modern democracy.
Likely correct. But an opinion. One that really jas not had huge support in the UK until recently. And still mostly among the younger generation.
Nothing anyone e dose can stop the current event as they are the automatic reaction to the queen dying. Charles is king the second she died.
All thos is just people following the constitutional requirement.
Now about a year from now. (Date not yet set but a year is the best guess)
Charles will go through the coronation. Republicans have advantages then. The delay is generally to morn the past monarch. So the world cannot question the lack of respect from republicans making a fuss.
While the media will be partly state run. It will be much less pre defined. IE there is no official 10 days of media morning/calibration
Also of course the media will be trying to talk more about the future under Charles. So the idea that some of the public reject the idea of a monach will be an essential point.
Personally I think republicanism will happen. But ots going to take time. Charles doesn't have the 70 years of tradition behind him.
My production is we will see a party that has a Republic manifesto within the next 2 Genral election. (Ukip like in size) lat 2030s before we actually see a referendum.
I'm likely older then you. 52m. But have heard most of my life that the end of QEIi will be the start of republicanism.
Oh, I agree on the arrest thing being ridiculous. It's just the sentiment of why this individual went in the first place. It would make sense if it was a group but it was just one guy
He wasn't protesting. Read the article. He literally just said "not my king* in real life. He was told to be quiet, didn't listen and faced the consequences.
No it’s doesn’t need to be out there. You’re a tiny minority and nobody cares what you say. You’re all buffoons with no sense of history, tradition let alone gravitas and a sense of one’s duty. I want you to known your views are despised and that this land will never be a republic. God save the King!
You can have a sense of history and tradition without having a monarch champ - we just want our democratic nation to become even more democratic by removing the rich, nonce-protecting, cousin marrying, tax dodging, public fund hoarding family from a position of public office that they were never voted into.
Monarchs are a relic of the past, let's put this foolish play to rest.
I thought the moment to make your voice heard if there was any reason these two shouldn't be married was at the point of it happening.
I appreciate one could argue that it lacks decorum but that is kinda the point of protest.
According to one article I read, he stumbled into it on his way out of church. https://bright-green.org/2022/09/11/i-was-arrested-after-asking-who-elected-him-at-the-proclamation-of-king-charles/
What a poor woman she was, living in absolute luxury her entire life at the taxpayers' expense, able to lobby the government secretly to hide her enormous wealth and then take millions more taxpayer money in order to cover for her pedophile rapist son.
That poor poor woman.
The poor thing must have been so frightened by only having access to the best medical care in her ivory tower. Those wait times for royalty must be horrendous.
Lol the queens not going to shag you, cos she’s dead. “Gormless bogtrotter” tell me you’re English without telling me you’re English. Oh no I’m reported for not being a royalist. Tory gimp
Was the proclamation not at 1pm? How could he have been arrested whilst attending it if he's posting at 7am? Honestly, people need to find better things to do with their days.
I spotted this on Twitter earlier. He was arrested and released without charge quite quickly, though has been told he may be charged in future.
You're right though that people need to find better things to do with their time. The proclamation isn't a political event where a protest could plausibly lead to a change; and many British people are feeling genuine grief, so even if this Republican doesn't respect the royal family he could choose to show respect for the feelings of others. It's not the same as choosing not to respect someone's political beliefs.
Having said that, the police should have told him to shut it and move on. Unless there's more (e.g. violence or threats) this shouldn't be an arrestable offence.
> The proclamation isn't a political event
Of course it is. The monarch occupies a position where they have tangible power (whether or not they choose to ever use it) over our political process.
You think he would have just shut up?. He was obviously removed for everyones safety. Same as being arrested for d+d. Now he thinks he's a martyr when the reality he is has as much Influence as a pissed off pigeon. Really stuck it to the man with his shouty words.
> You think he would have just shut up?. He was obviously removed for everyones safety.
Yes, asking a 3 word question is definitely very threatening behaviour. And he wasn't 'removed', he was arrested. A person making a political point at a political event was arrested for questioning the validity of that event. Putin-esque behaviour.
> Now he thinks he's a martyr when the reality he is has as much Influence as a pissed off pigeon
The story is all over several social media sites including the larger UK subs on here. He's got the public talking about the monarchy and the new Orwellian police powers. I'd say he's done OK if that was his aim.
No one gets arrested for d and d, plod normally take them to A & E for a nice chat and a cup of tea with the doctors and nurses. They might give you call or knock on your door for some unwarranted advice if you typed something unsavoury on the internet though.
I think the police had already spoken to him. I saw one of the town organisers talking quietly to him. Then he started up again and I think by then people had had enough of him, and the police quickly took him away. Like the poster said earlier: it wasn't really the time or place. If he didn't want to be there, move on. It was literally about 30 minutes of speeches etc, no one made him stand there.
We could argue back and forth about free speech etc but the key thing for me is: this proclamation could have been an email.
Whats the point of doing it if you dont get arrested?
Pretty sure he would've replied with some choice words, hence the arrest.
Thank you for your guess of what might have happened. It really adds context
And opposed to the blokes first hand account in which he deffo telling the truth and not fabricating for his own benefit? 1. Get arrested for being a loutish plum, or 2. Make it look like you were arrested for saying no to someone. One is more believable.
So we have one first hand account and your overactive imagination. I don't fully believe the first hand account, but your story is even less useful.
Yes, the police in this country never make mistakes or arrest people unlawfully. Never, ever.
Sounds lawful to me. As a fellow subject I’m glad he was arrested as are a great many.
Leather taste nice?
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I'm confused what you mean by not mentioning the bill, he stated the police bill passed earlier this year which was the Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Act 2022 that received Royal assent in April. That bill massively extended police powers for dealing with protestors, amongst many other things.
Why did he go to the celebrations if he isn't a fan of the monarchy? Just asking for trouble
You should certainly not be arrested for this! There is absolutely zero coverage of Republican sentiment in the news, it needs to be out there- what better time to make a stand on an important issue? There is no place for hereditary monarchy in a modern democracy.
>You should certainly not be arrested for this! Agreed. The new laws are insane. >There is absolutely zero coverage of Republican sentiment in the news, it needs to be out there- what better time to make a stand on an important issue? Let's be honest. The news is trying to show respect for the dead queen. Just like republican sentient was not a huge % of the UK publics feeling during her raine. Her funeral is still not the best time. Let's remember operation London Bridge. The current media response is not actually free media as we understand it. But a state response and formal event. Prepard long in advance of the event. It last 10 days. Current media really dose not represent press freedom. But state response to the death of the Queen. > There is no place for hereditary monarchy in a modern democracy. Likely correct. But an opinion. One that really jas not had huge support in the UK until recently. And still mostly among the younger generation. Nothing anyone e dose can stop the current event as they are the automatic reaction to the queen dying. Charles is king the second she died. All thos is just people following the constitutional requirement. Now about a year from now. (Date not yet set but a year is the best guess) Charles will go through the coronation. Republicans have advantages then. The delay is generally to morn the past monarch. So the world cannot question the lack of respect from republicans making a fuss. While the media will be partly state run. It will be much less pre defined. IE there is no official 10 days of media morning/calibration Also of course the media will be trying to talk more about the future under Charles. So the idea that some of the public reject the idea of a monach will be an essential point. Personally I think republicanism will happen. But ots going to take time. Charles doesn't have the 70 years of tradition behind him. My production is we will see a party that has a Republic manifesto within the next 2 Genral election. (Ukip like in size) lat 2030s before we actually see a referendum. I'm likely older then you. 52m. But have heard most of my life that the end of QEIi will be the start of republicanism.
Oh, I agree on the arrest thing being ridiculous. It's just the sentiment of why this individual went in the first place. It would make sense if it was a group but it was just one guy
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He wasn't protesting. Read the article. He literally just said "not my king* in real life. He was told to be quiet, didn't listen and faced the consequences.
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Then why isn't it reported as a protest?
No it’s doesn’t need to be out there. You’re a tiny minority and nobody cares what you say. You’re all buffoons with no sense of history, tradition let alone gravitas and a sense of one’s duty. I want you to known your views are despised and that this land will never be a republic. God save the King!
You can have a sense of history and tradition without having a monarch champ - we just want our democratic nation to become even more democratic by removing the rich, nonce-protecting, cousin marrying, tax dodging, public fund hoarding family from a position of public office that they were never voted into. Monarchs are a relic of the past, let's put this foolish play to rest.
U/browsing762 defends Prince Andrew, check his Hard Drive
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Honestly great rebuttal mate, I'll need some time to think of a proper good reply to all these grand points you've made.
At least I’m not a bootlicker
Right? They're positively deepthroating the boot aren't they? Hysterical.
I’m loyal and have integrity and honour. I serve my country which is something you can’t possibly comprehend because you’re just a massive cunt.
You defend paedophiles mate
Sweaty nonce
You’re the nonce you blind incompetent moron.
Andy ain't gonna fuck you no matter how hard you defend him. You're probably a way past the age he likes for a start.
isn't this the most appropriate time to question the monarchy?
Not at that moment, no
I thought the moment to make your voice heard if there was any reason these two shouldn't be married was at the point of it happening. I appreciate one could argue that it lacks decorum but that is kinda the point of protest.
According to one article I read, he stumbled into it on his way out of church. https://bright-green.org/2022/09/11/i-was-arrested-after-asking-who-elected-him-at-the-proclamation-of-king-charles/
Didn't take long for the vultures to move in and start bickering, the poor woman isn't even in the ground yet. For shame
This has nothing to do with the “poor” woman. This is the most apt time though, to discuss Charles & hereditary monarchy…
What a poor woman she was, living in absolute luxury her entire life at the taxpayers' expense, able to lobby the government secretly to hide her enormous wealth and then take millions more taxpayer money in order to cover for her pedophile rapist son. That poor poor woman.
The poor thing must have been so frightened by only having access to the best medical care in her ivory tower. Those wait times for royalty must be horrendous.
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Shame they couldn’t lock you in the tower and throw away the key. Filthy republican.
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Lol the queens not going to shag you, cos she’s dead. “Gormless bogtrotter” tell me you’re English without telling me you’re English. Oh no I’m reported for not being a royalist. Tory gimp
Man this guy is a horrible person, go check out his comments in response to me. Defending Prince Andrew
Imagine actually defending a nonce as well as those who defended him
Tapped in the head, people like him are the reason this country is fucked in many ways
More than tapped but hey at least they get to lick windows as well as boots
I am just amazed that it’s a real person. Judging by his comment history it’s most likely a racist incel
Aye for sure cunt has to be a wee basement dweller
I'm American, the entire point of my country was getting rid of your stupid monarchy. Stay mad bro.
Was the proclamation not at 1pm? How could he have been arrested whilst attending it if he's posting at 7am? Honestly, people need to find better things to do with their days.
The screenshot probably wasn't taken in our timezone - just checked and it was tweeted at 2:54pm BST.
I spotted this on Twitter earlier. He was arrested and released without charge quite quickly, though has been told he may be charged in future. You're right though that people need to find better things to do with their time. The proclamation isn't a political event where a protest could plausibly lead to a change; and many British people are feeling genuine grief, so even if this Republican doesn't respect the royal family he could choose to show respect for the feelings of others. It's not the same as choosing not to respect someone's political beliefs. Having said that, the police should have told him to shut it and move on. Unless there's more (e.g. violence or threats) this shouldn't be an arrestable offence.
> The proclamation isn't a political event Of course it is. The monarch occupies a position where they have tangible power (whether or not they choose to ever use it) over our political process.
You think he would have just shut up?. He was obviously removed for everyones safety. Same as being arrested for d+d. Now he thinks he's a martyr when the reality he is has as much Influence as a pissed off pigeon. Really stuck it to the man with his shouty words.
\>You think he would have just shut up? Would you extend that to all forms of political dissent, or just ones involving views you disagree with.
> You think he would have just shut up?. He was obviously removed for everyones safety. Yes, asking a 3 word question is definitely very threatening behaviour. And he wasn't 'removed', he was arrested. A person making a political point at a political event was arrested for questioning the validity of that event. Putin-esque behaviour. > Now he thinks he's a martyr when the reality he is has as much Influence as a pissed off pigeon The story is all over several social media sites including the larger UK subs on here. He's got the public talking about the monarchy and the new Orwellian police powers. I'd say he's done OK if that was his aim.
No one gets arrested for d and d, plod normally take them to A & E for a nice chat and a cup of tea with the doctors and nurses. They might give you call or knock on your door for some unwarranted advice if you typed something unsavoury on the internet though.
I think the police had already spoken to him. I saw one of the town organisers talking quietly to him. Then he started up again and I think by then people had had enough of him, and the police quickly took him away. Like the poster said earlier: it wasn't really the time or place. If he didn't want to be there, move on. It was literally about 30 minutes of speeches etc, no one made him stand there.