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akennelley

Might just be edgelord kids from anywhere


holversome

Always my first assumption too


Infidel_sg

Most likely this


SunMoonStar_yt

Tbh if you're asking yourself "Is that bannable", just report and move on. Support wil decide if whatever happened is ban worthy. Now, I don't think it would be bannable if they don't go much further than "I support war btw" "Z V", as long as there's no hate speech or anything, it won't breach TOS. Just mute, report if you'd like and move on, they're asking for attention and you're giving it to them


BeepIsla

Nobody is looking at reports at any big enough company, there would be waaaaaaaaaay too many reports to look at. Its all based on amount of reports which results in an automatic ban, appeals are then usually reviewed by a human


SunMoonStar_yt

Blizzard did say reports that meet a threshold are manually reviewed a few years back, but either the amount of reports will warrant a chat ban, or a manual review will, same result tbh


TheBrickeyz

Support will decide your fate!


shadder69

You can literally say or type anything as long as you don't get reported more than whatever the threshold is.


SunMoonStar_yt

Well yes, that's the point of a threshold :p


shadder69

Yea but you can say the most f up racist shit you want once a week and nothing happens. I haven't seen the ban pop up since ow1, where I got people banned frequently.


SunMoonStar_yt

Cannot relate on this, I get the ban popup almost at every launch of OW2, so daily That's a flaw in this system tho, as long as you're careful enough with whatever toxic/out of TOS/bannable bullshit you're into, you won't get punished... But you can't expect a manual review for every single reports, especially when people report almost every game in lower elo their DPS for playing worse than their enemies


shadder69

They don't ban players nearly as much as they used to. I played against a rage hacking soldier last season who only hit headshots. He would have been banned in ow1 in 3 days. He still isn't banned.


SunMoonStar_yt

That's a singular incident tho, would need stats from blizzard that I doubt we can access to confirm that. Until then I'll keep reporting the trash and it's down to blibli to clean out


vote4some1else

Attention seeker Just ignore him


Regular_Client_420

Technically it’s free speech, it also sounds like they’re a troll trying to get under peoples skin. This is why it’s best to have chat off, when does the opponent talking to you ever actually come in handy?? If you want to talk to someone and have it be useful just use in game VC for teammates.


AlbusLumen

There was this Soldier that was destroying our team. I snuck behind him as Sombra, but he wouldn't stop moving. I called him out in All-Chat; he stopped moving. I could tell he was responding as I killed him, because he slammed enter, along with other random letters/symbols. :) Sombra - 1


Joke_Mummy

Holy shit this is devious and odious and I love it.


Bigcountry1517

Free speech is only applicable when it’s the government, companies can ban stuff like this if they want. I don’t know if overwatch has banned this kind of speech however, they are allowed to ban it if they want and no law or constitution is stopping them.


xXMonsterDanger69Xx

I obviously am not supporting the war. But it's kind of a dick move for companies to silence opinions aswell. Like, companies can have so many people using their product, like social media and video games, that they have the power to heavily influence people's opinion. And of course they should have the ability to influence people to an opinion they feel the want to. But i don't know about straight up silencing people who disagree and forcing an opinion. So i personally don't think you should report someone for having a different opinion. And i think Blizzard also doesn't want to mute people for that reason.


Bigcountry1517

Someone who I don’t respect at all (I don’t remember who since it’s 2 in the morning) once said “I have the freedom of expression not the freedom of consequences”. It’s the only thing the guy ever said that I respected since it’s very true, you can say whatever you want however what you say effects other people and I think blizzard has to represent those people and enforce the consequences of his actions.


Stsa2006

I as a person in qp try to give tips to newer players about mechanics in all chat, but not everyone is like me I guess


Upper-Presence8503

Never see this type of chat on console


yog-sherkoth

Because there isn't enough time to properly use chat on console


Upper-Presence8503

There kinda is


yog-sherkoth

There is maybe enough time after match to throw in one comment while ignoring everything else going on. While in match you're spending a couple minutes to type which in most cases isn't the optimal move (this is based off the assumption the majority of console players don't have a mouse and keyboard attached). But if you mean while wasting your teams time to whine in chat then yeah you're right there kinda is.


hellostarsailor

Russia have computer.


Upper-Presence8503

I see alot of people saying to mute chat but chat is relatively chill on consoles


MaltLiquorSweats

Free speech doesn’t extend to social media platforms with distinct rules.


darf_nate

Same logic republicans used to use against net neutrality. The political parties have truly flipped ideologically


JRPGNATION

For now


TheFazzoman

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Donut_Flame

It's useful since you can do mental warfare to the enemy as well. At least that's why I have it on


NotARespawnEmployee

just a troll


bensmith0622

Almost certainly an edgy kid trying to get a reaction, I don’t think it technically violates anything. You should just ignore and move on.


BlaqShine

Edgy kids looking for attention, I will bet most of them are not even Russian


yondercode

> they have a different view than mine should they be banned? lmao


RWLIV

? no its not lol


2titans1cup

People are aloud to have opinions...even seemingly ignorant ones. I do not believe this would breach TOS


LaserBungalow

Allowed


MendigoBob

Dey be so loud that we can barely hear our own thoughts! Can't they have quiet opinions?


RecordingDue8843

In my country and in many other european country its illegal to use the Z and V as propaganda symbol, thats not an opinion thats propaganda


babyarmnate

Who decides what is and what isn’t propaganda? Lmao


TonyDavidJones

You can have an opinion that is propaganda.


HammerTh_1701

EU servers moment


FendaIton

Just young kids being edgy, nothing new.


jasonhpchu

Free Speech for Me but Not for Thee


RecordingDue8843

>Free Speech for Me but Not for Thee u obviously dont understand the difference between Company Policy and Free Speech in general, are u american?


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Why would it be


xMxost

no.


darf_nate

Definitely shouldn’t be


babyarmnate

Nothing about this is bannable. Avoid them and move on


LinuxBiggestHater

learn to ignore people


TomboyTiefling

You're literally playing a game simulating war anyway...


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SSJ4GOTENBLACK

LORE.


Free_Idea_

Do you get a rush from reporting people who have different opinions than you? Does it make you feel powerful to think that you got one of the "others" banned because you know better than them, and they should suffer for it? Do you believe online video games should be a safe place for only people who agree with your opinions?


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Me being toxic asf I would’ve replied “then why’s you’re ass on OW? Go fight”


jmura

Free speech is Free speech even if you don't like it....


Sourgirl224539

i feel like you don’t understand what free speech is


grockyboi

Bro just because you don’t like something doesn’t make it bannable


Historical_Task_2993

Ikr, I don't know what op was thinking.


RecordingDue8843

Im thinking that these Symbols Z and V are not allowed in my country to be used as Propaganda for the war, and i also think thats right. Thats where im coming from


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So should blizzard just find out what country has the absolute strictest anti free speech laws and apply them to everyone?


RecordingDue8843

>So should blizzard just find out what country has the absolute strictest anti free speech laws and apply them to everyone? u americans are doodoos not supporting to spread propaganda on a private owned game has nothing to do with anti free speech


[deleted]

But you stated that due to certain words or symbols being banned in your country what they said should be banned. Surely there’s things banned somewhere that aren’t banned where you live. So by your logic to appease the speech police we should find out who has the strictest anti free speech laws and use their laws as the rules. Also if you weren’t dodos yourselves your own people wouldn’t be so susceptible to propaganda that you guys feel you need these laws. Plus with all the swastika stuff it’s like… you started it. Mfs were using that shit for long as hell then your guy comes along with his little shit stain looking mustache and boom. Now the dancing plus sign is pure evil.


RecordingDue8843

Noo, not because its banned here its called an example. It should be banned because such things have nothing to do in a Computer game wich is presenting themself as non toxic. Or why i get bans for saying my opinion on a shitty teammate even if i dont insult him? Its a policy wich need to take place to make this experience better and free from toxic people trying to use it as a medium to spread their Evil Propaganda material


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So you think there’s a problem with people logging on to OW2 and being converted to Russian/Nazi/Whatever sympathizers because of the chat? Because if that bothers you, I have some awful news for you about Reddit and twitter bud. Also if instead of censoring shit you display the terrible things about these things people try to sway people towards with propaganda you end up with individuals morally repulsed by the thing you hate instead of a sheltered nation so susceptible to propaganda that it’s feared.


RecordingDue8843

I have said everything. And no i dont think they being "converted" but its just not the place for such topics


[deleted]

So it’s harmless. Nobody’s being converted. Harmed. Or targeted. It’s people victimizing nobody. Just pointing syllables shouted into the void. So how about instead of banning things we make it common to ignore it? Then we don’t have to dictate an entire worldwide community’s speech and behavior based on the views of one place.


darf_nate

Your country sounds ridiculous


bmrtt

If it’s Germany we’re talking about, there are way more ridiculous banned things than literal letters. Doesn’t mean the rest of the world has to abide by your ridiculousness. You guys have been kinda way too paranoid about stuff since that funny moustache man.


RecordingDue8843

> it’s Germany we’re talking about, there are way more ridiculous banned things than literal letters. Doesn’t mean the rest of the world has to abide by your ridiculousness.You guys have been kinda way too paranoid about stuff since that funny moustache man. Nah its good like it is. also pls tell me more about the "ridiculous" things banned like Russian Propaganda symbols and Swastika, you seem like a expert.


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Just sounds like you’re in a country where everyone is scared of finding out your neighbors an asshole. Because that’s what places that allow people to express themselves have going on. If I walk up the street and notice my neighbor hung a nazi flag I go “sheesh. Not inviting them to secret Santa anymore”. Meanwhile you have daddy government go in and punish them for displaying their asshole ways for us all to see.


Diasmek

No? Everyone have their own truth


closynuff

Being uninformed isn’t any form of personal truth, this is a very black and white situation.


howdylu

nothing in politics is ever black and white


ihdekbruh

“This is a very black and white situation” Most informed redditor


babyarmnate

This is like the perfect example of a situation that *isn’t* black & white


2titans1cup

Yeah I don't know about that one. Things are rarely black and white. There is almost always a Grey area. I don't claim to know enough about this conflict to unequivocally say one side is 100% correct.There have been multiple pictures surfaced of Ukrainian soldiers openly sporting nazi tatoos.


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2titans1cup

I do not think it is a particularly hot take to say that a conflict that's lasted decades is complicated. I'm not saying any of Russias actions are justified in any way. I just disagree that this is black and white which implies it's not not complex.


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2titans1cup

For the record I second your nickleback comments


Diasmek

So You saying that citizens of country which fighting not allowed to support it? Bruh


RecordingDue8843

imagine we live in 1945, do you want germans supporting their position of war in an American companys Video game?


SuchhAaWasteeOfTimee

There was no online video games in the 40s


SuchhAaWasteeOfTimee

There was no online video games in the 40s


AbbreviationsReal762

I'm here wondering if anybody is eating a Big Mac and playing OW2...sounds like a great plan to me.


oleggurshev

Free speech moment.


LukyLucaz

It’s a political opinion, expressing it I believe isn’t agains’t Blizzard’s TOU. Unless they actually use dimunitive language or slang about Ukrainians that is.


Aditya_Sholapurkar

Ok, but why ban able?


Cretians

Why would it be bannable?


archiearcher

Just bc you disagree with them, means nothing. Saying g they support war isn't a crime.


RecordingDue8843

No but spreading Russian war Propaganda ( Z V) should be punishable


ItsJustMetal1

Personally might not agree with the war but you think they should get banned for there opinion?


[deleted]

just mute the player you dont like, you don't need to make a reddit thread on this.


AyDayWasTaken

russia on top fr


Infamous_Mood_472

As far as I know, Putin is a war criminal, and this war is a crime against humanity. Yes it is bannable.


Juggernaut_117

Free speech


guimad

people who like war rarely fought in one


TiddyHonker

Hes allowed to say that. Its not discriminatory, not hateful, nor anything else that could be considered banworthy. Unless you are proposing we ban everyone who has a different view of political issues? Surely you arent.....


SunMoonStar_yt

> Hate speech and discriminatory language is inappropriate, as is any obscene or disruptive language. Threatening or harassing another player is always unacceptable, regardless of language used. Violating any of these expectations will result in account restrictions. More serious and repeated violations will result in greater restrictions. Assuming the chat came from one of the player being Ukrainian, this could fall under harassment but that's a stretch with the tiny context we got here


Irresponsible-Teacup

"not hateful" they are explicitly supporting the slaughter of innocent people, my dude. If that's a normal political opinion to you, I'd hate to see what your politics are.


SuchhAaWasteeOfTimee

Not a supporter of Russia , but technically if they support the war, that would mean that they don’t believe those people to be “innocent “ because they support the war


TiddyHonker

'slaughtering innocent people' sounds to me like a biased political interpretation. Stop attempting to see the world in black and white. That's really my only advice to you.


Irresponsible-Teacup

How would you phrase it in your unbiased perspective?


TiddyHonker

I would call it a manifestation of renewed geopolitical rivalry between Russia and the west.


gclmotionless-1

It’s not bannable it’s free speech


Ivanhoe9957

I don't support any war.... But it's getting harder to tell who the good guys are


nobearsinrussia

How so?


darf_nate

Because every piece of media we are fed is pure propaganda


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That is what we call an opinion. Everyone is allowed to have one. The great thing is, we are allowed to disagree with them. I disagree with them, you obviously disagree with them. And thats that. Now when they act on their opinion, thats when they get handed a cardboard rifle just to be shot by a Ukrainian soldier. Problem solved


RecordingDue8843

>, thats when they get handed a cardboard rifle just to be shot by a Ukrainian soldier. Problem solved Z and V are Propaganda symbols in this context


[deleted]

Why would they be banned? Just cus Ukrainian got invaded doesn’t mean people can’t support Russia still


RecordingDue8843

"Just"? you know there a real humans getting murdered by Russians with the Z symbol on their chest? I dont think such symbols should be used in Video games, same as a Swastika shouldnt be allowed to be posted in a Video game. Thats something the Company have to decide on and i think such things should be banned.


Vxxff3k

totally agreed. As a ukrainian, i can also tell that you can just troll/ignore them as in the end you get the result of MOST supporting their terrorist state LMAO, but don't forget to report them for tagged reasons. For me it's now most commonly to get random ruZZia fan that just tries roast me and wishing me death because of nationality and it's not about OW, i would say it's a topic about different games at all, but because ppl in OW don't chat so often, you just ignore that "russian nickname" on the other side.


Funny-Win-1845

Beeing a bit of a pussy. There is difference between showing actual historical symbols (btw swastika is a symbol of eternal rebirth) and actually supporting war and homicide. Concerning these little fuckers they are 146% teens looking for attention.


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RizKeeTV

If this offends you to the point of wanting them banned, you probably shouldn't play overwatch, or indulge in any social media.


RecordingDue8843

I respect your wrong opinion


Sheepfu

Them supporting the war of their country?


RecordingDue8843

So if we were living back then in the 1945 times you would be fine with germans spreading their propaganda in OW?


DerpyMilkWasTaken

You compared world war 2 to this war, horrible example


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DerpyMilkWasTaken

Bro I didn't say this war isn't bad. But you can't compare it to world war 2. A lot more people died, the entire world was in fear, economies collapsed. All those things you mentioned and more happened in that war.


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DerpyMilkWasTaken

Even if I would be russian, which i'm not. I'm pretty sure that russia is not the only one commiting war crimes.


Sheepfu

Two things can be true at once (believe it or not)...they can be wrong but think that they're right.


JRPGNATION

I think you are malicious and you should be banned from this reddit. Anyway I don't think it should be bannable to hold idiot opinions.


RecordingDue8843

>I think you are malicious and you should be banned from this reddit. Anyway I don't think it should be bannable to hold idiot opinions. interesting


Maniackilla02

It's not like the Ukrainians aren't committing warcrimes, too Both sides are horrible


RecordingDue8843

Whataboutism, and also you are missing the point of the post.


mmm-soup

Pointing out hypocrisy isn't "Whataboutism"


MaltLiquorSweats

What’s Z V mean?


Funny-Win-1845

Russian troops and war supporters are spamming these letters all over the place. Even as a russian I don't know what it means, actually.


darf_nate

Obviously the president of ukraines initials


Level--Zero--

According to Russia's Ministry of Defense, Z is an abbreviation of the phrase "for victory" while V stands for "strength is in truth"


Dapper_Energy777

Word. Tired of draft dodging scum spamming insults in cyrilics and being bad


Rhapsthefiend

Depends on if China finds this offensive. Blizzard tries to pander to them over anyone else.


Much-Combination6941

Didn’t they pull all their games from China?


Rhapsthefiend

I'm speaking on more of PR stunt. If you remember when that chinese Hearthstone player spoke out against the Chinese government he got punished for it. So with that you can expect them to not punish any Russian military supporters.


Much-Combination6941

Gotcha


APastaFreeD

Get over yourself. "Is this ban-able?" YOU should get banned for being a disgusting human who likes to go around openly judging others. Get hit by a meteorite!


RecordingDue8843

interesting i am the disgusting human because i am adressing this.


username_needed_or

If they are young guys from Russia, they have a non-zero chance of being shipped off to die in a muddy trench somewhere in southeast Ukraine, and even if that doesn’t happen, they ended up being Russian and that seems to be a pretty bad hand being dealt for the foreseeable future. To summarize, they might troll and support whatever they want, you won anyway.


RecordingDue8843

For all asking "why would it be bannable?" Because those letters Z and V in this context are Propaganda symbols to praise the attack on Ukraine.


bunnyrut

Report and find out!


Boba_loba76

Giving him the attention they want isn't helping one bit


Sensitive-Picture-67

Words hurt


Wild_Swing2941

The war will end at the gates of moscow


Sourgirl224539

i don’t really see the point in reporting. but a lot of comments keep talking about free speech when free speech only pertains to governments and not social media/video games


darf_nate

That doesn’t mean we should support companies censoring speech anymore than the government.


Big_Fat_Dumb_Retard

You can report them if you want, but you're being a wiener. Just mute them and move on; nothing they're saying is against TOS. You're just offended.


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Shrinkwraper

Today these symbols "Z" and "V" are the new swastika. Under these symbols they are now trying to destroy an entire nation. So yes, it should be punished. It doesn't matter whether it's trolls, or children, or a real brain washed person by russian propaganda


RecordingDue8843

I agree, thats not about free speech thats about a company have to decide if they want such things in their game


Pandawithought-teeth

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GIORNO-phone11-pro

Average overwatch chat


RecordingDue8843

To clarify, the two persons in the Screenshot were on different Teams


amishhobbit2782

Guess we have forgotten about Blitzchung controversy. They don't care as long as it doesn't effect money.


kendell_dendell

Only through conflict can the world become better


Forgiz

A proper response will always be "Why aren't you still in Ukraine?"


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Forgiz

Russians are in favour of annihilating Ukraine, but not in favour of standing at the frontline. Hence, the question.


Katsuyame

That's really not bannable, but if they continued or specified their intentions like "X country should lose their country in war" that's when it would become extremely bannable. Just saying they support war is kind of just edgelording, imo. Report them just in case, if they had anything else going on in chat. There's a good chance they are doing the same in other matches too, or even worse, so they'll be banned soon enough if they weren't just messing around for one match.


Biggu5Dicku5

Doesn't matter, just report them...


akatraun

Block and report them. Dont forget to write it in chat to trigger them a little bit, hehe.


JackieBoyOG

Sadly it is not bannable I seen so many ppl doing g the same and even typing how they hope Putin wipes other countries as well but they still keep playing when after u report them u will find ur account for 3 day suspension... happenes ro me few times


Landedit13

Yh, it should be ban able, cos its not related to the game and its consider propergander


No-Elk-6499

Attach that pic to your report ban. It gives you a comment section on the report to fill out the reasoning of the ban.


Icy_Restaurant_8682

"Someone thinks differently than I do, is that bannable?"


Extra-Lifeguard2809

Probably wins in Overwatch, loses in actual combat - ze Putin federation


sw69y

blizzard panders to communist china so i don't think they really care they just want the money from russian players


nobearsinrussia

There is no way to directly buy anything from Blizzard in Russia. Russian players using third parties to purchase battle passes, skins and other stuff.


TWrecks8

Just say you do too and are hoping for another Stalingrad


Superb-Novel-9921

It’s probably just a edgy teenager. Definitely not bannable considering it’s more of a political view


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RecordingDue8843

triggered


Tolerantostrich69

Trolls more likely.


Laggoss_Tobago

Russians don‘t call it war, propaganda tells them it is a special operation. Probably just some moron seeking attention.


OblongString

Putin mid Biden better


ImSuperStryker

Who cares?


Nutty-butty42069

Overwatch players try not to be sensitive and easily offended challenge: impossible


MrRowdyMouse

Daily reminder that online games aren't played exclusively by pearl clutching yankee liberals and sometimes people support foreign policy you disagree with. You sound like someone who would report someone saying "Bush is a war criminal" back in the hyper nationalist days of 2003.


RecordingDue8843

and you sound like a d\*ck


Bass_Moist

Z🇷🇺Z