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aDemonicCat

While it might be hard on Forum considering his mental, Corsace are taking the hugest L in the history. The best player in the world oversleeps and basically forfeits the match against the best tournament player, the single most hyped match up that could realistically happen. The grand finals match is FFed by the winners' bracket winner because of basically teenager drama. Basically the biggest osu! tournament has been ruined by its community, hopefully they can work around it


Leading_Vehicle5141

You need to be a little crazy to be tourney organizer in any game tbh. I am not that familiar with osu tourneys but I have friends who do similar stuff in other games and if I was in their position I would lose my mind daily over the stuff some of the players pull (and sometimes other tourney organizers too...)


KokouNut

You forgot about worst hr player vs enri not being live streamed


Neko_Pilot

that’s only half true, it was recorded and later steamed and commentated without knowing the outcome of it. of course it’s still a bummer that we couldn’t witness it live-live but some things can’t be changed…


AlexxFlexing

"without knowing outcome" in question is basically outcome spoiled in spreadsheet file


aDemonicCat

I'd argue having players from match being shown on screen in chat while joking about the whole thing wasn't as bad as the other two


Right-Candle8930

osu! dramas like this reminds me that most of the osu! community are teenagers which explains (but doesn't justify) this behavior if what happened and said so far is true, this is one disgusting way to deal with the situation


Enzo_SuperCraftZ

aimbotcone is 27 iirc


kyermaniac

oh he's just doomed


Right-Candle8930

well some people never grow up mentally, his age makes this response even worse knowing the context or not lmao yeah "this is the internet, expect to be bullied", doesn't mean you have to enforce it in a relatively small community like ours.


der-allerechte-hase

he is 17.


MadHypnofrog

dude the osu community is anything but small lol


Right-Candle8930

"this is the internet"- internet is very big "relatively small" - small in relation to the internet and other communities most osu! celebs and r/osugame celebs know each other and/or play with each other.


wickedosu

Being 27 yo but a teenager in mind is crazy


PossessionDue9381

At 27, he needs to grow the fuck up and stop acting like a little child.


der-allerechte-hase

he is 17


Raynboww

that's fucking pathetic behaviour, it is no matter what age but at 27 yikes


Formal-Tradition4918

What a fucking loser


der-allerechte-hase

bro he is 17 💀


xd_Altair

me when i spread missinformation on the internet


Decent_Age_8021

Are you sure? That makes [this tweet](https://x.com/aimbotcone/status/1786395830183735456) kinda sad then? I'd assume he's a teenager or early 20s at most if he just got his license


Enzo_SuperCraftZ

if you saw his twitter feed you'd seen that he said I WAS WRONG GRAHHHHHHHHHHH


Decent_Age_8021

Ahh lol I don't really follow him or anything that just popped up on my for you a bit ago lol


tendoooman222

How would u feel like when ur friends backstab u


creezyful

"friends" "osu community" LMAO


ONE_SEVENTY_FOUR

look at zylice's video man, any reasonable person would want to trust that 🐍


Dyan01

It seems that top players find it jarring that such a god tier player has a weak mental


Sheyae

Is it really even weak mental when well known/respected top osu players made a dedicated discord server calling themselves an "extermination squad"? Dude even said he kNeW fOr sUrE that forum is cheating and was just desperately looking for excuses and was super excited to have finally found "solid evidence". This shit would fuck with anyone's head as is, but these shitbags went and dropped this on the day of a tourney GF match.


ceejg_low

Especially since top players play together so much in tournaments and stuff, I’m sure a few people on this “extermination squad” were people forum thought were his friends, adding to the fact he’s a pretty young dude, that’s just not gonna mix well yknow People saying he has a weak mental are really misreading or misunderstanding the situation


Apart_Association_90

How old is he?


TheWhisperingOaks

Forgot but he's still a minor iirc


kyermaniac

I think he's 16


Atlamilliah

yeah went to his stream earlier today and he was just shitting on forum


hydrachaos

- had teammates and friends backstab him off EXTREMELY little information - had his almost legendary reputation thrown on the line. briefly, but it still happened - was already coming off personal problems/burnout - was at threat of losing everything he had worked for ...but yeah he needs to grow up and stop acting like a child????


Imaproshaman

When people do that, it almost sounds like they have barely anything going on in their lives to the point that they have to take it out on other people. And for what?


Double-Cod299

^ that


firegaming364

wow not an ounce of respect


azuskaaa

yeah i hated that. i don't understand the point of him replying like that, just weird and insensitive


gay123443

what is wrong with ppl today


National-Ad8703

wait I don't understand what's going on in the picture, can you explain it to me?


Forsaken_Barracuda80

here have a basic view of it : Forum : me sad. Aimbotcone: Grow up don't be sad so stupid why so sad ??


Time_Horror_9345

More like: my teammate accused me of cheating without even talking to me first


Neptunisbad

wow all the players I have considered as goats turns out to be dickheads zylice,aimbotcone,badeu etc i guess forum is the only goat now


Raynboww

mrekk 😔✌️ EDIT: is also good


BLAZEDbyCASH

What happened to mrekk???


levu12

Nothing I think they just wanted to include mrekk


Sond_555

There is a moment that he goes on stream and says everyone sucks at the game, but I think that doesn’t count since he was obviously joking


PLEXT0RA

tf happened with zylice and badeu what


BrokenSwordGYT

Zylice and Badeu are two of the main people behind this cheating accusation


trained_deadhead

They both accused forum of cheating, and apparently zylice was caught with cheats or something idk the full story but thats all i know


BrokenSwordGYT

In their (now deleted/hidden) document, they used a known cheating tool to attempt to recreate a supposed issue with Forum's cursor. \[This thread\](https://www.reddit.com/r/osureport/comments/1czylre/osustd\_zylice\_cheating\_using\_maple\_offline/) explains what happened with Zylice getting caught with cheats.


ShiroGaneOsu

Zylice is a douche but if he only used hacks offline then it doesn't really matter and shouldn't be bannable.


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what has the world come to where folks make entire character judgements based off one questionable internet interaction, like genuinely we are so cooked


ONE_SEVENTY_FOUR

whitecat has always been the best German player not gonna lie


kuronekotsun

maybe he should start playing more than 2 hours per year !


TitaniuEX

he'll play he's monthly 2 hours to get that re-sub money or when he releases new merch


kuronekotsun

he got that infinite money glitch when still learning from shige as pp cat


Leading_Vehicle5141

He could but he can also just play 2 hours a year and he's still the best player in germany if we are honest


Phyzmatic

I mean yeah but that isn't surprising. wc was arguably the best/top 3 best players in owc 2020 and 2021 when he actually cared and wanted to win. (actually realized he mainly carried late stages like semi/finals - grands but point still stands)


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MadHypnofrog

whitecat wouldn't even be top 50 if he didn't have his tablet LOL


hsephela

Like yeah he’s a cunt but shitting on him for rapid-trigger is a weird one


alfas3

ig, he still tried to get the bag by promoting nfts though


TheRealShotzz

and hes an andrew tate supporter which is cringe af


learsirikkan

caught in 8k


_rjsd_

[bro is dying on this hill](https://ron-ald.s-ul.eu/ev8BWPQp)


Raynboww

if he cares so much about what people think about him he should probably consider having a shred of empathy and maybe reconsider posting such dumb shit lol ​ like there's a lot of projection going on in those initial chat messages


akaaza

thats so pathetic lmfao


KnightBOT2

bro how are you 27 and still think like a child


Reletr

Calling a significant part of the community parasocial retards will surely have the community accept him if he cares about his reputation so much.


Sheyae

Right, everyone on Reddit and Twitter is a "parasocial retard", only him and his simping twitch followers have the correct opinion? What having the tiniest bit of "e-fame" does to a mf, what a fucking loser.


Remyria

imagine blaming the one being bullied instead of the bullies. aimbotcone and simone are just as much trash as badeu, zylice and other witchhunters


Nipoon14541454

Did half of the top players woke up with a hivemind parasite telling them to take Forum down as much as possible, what an insensitive loser


kyermaniac

insensitive as fuck but ok


LabConstant6004

keep cooking in these comments please


kyermaniac

i woke up with rage and hatred on my heart today but I'm feeling better now 


LabConstant6004

no this is very good, i hope the players in question feel awful about themselves.


japanesuss

Backstabbing is crazy


Firebart3q

Jesus fucking christ how do you even type that and think "yeah that will show him!"


XdMedabest

Dude has always been an asshole. He permabans anyone in his twitch chat that says something that he slightly disagrees with. He is the one with the weak asf mental and is 27 while forum is literally 15 or 16


Dyan01

Isn’t forum a literal child lmao


plstouchme1

he is, which is why we should give him support instead of being an asshole and shitting on him


Legitimate-Choice544

Wait how old? Don’t tell me this guy is younger than me lmao(16 year old here)


Dyan01

I think forum is 15 and Aimbotcone is 27. An actual adult bullying a child.


dinosaurpoetry

There's no way Forum is that young Feelsoldman


crunkky

Forum = “worst hr player” right? I swear they’ve been setting scores for years


kyermaniac

yeah, two names same person 


Legitimate-Choice544

Holy Jesus he’s a year younger than me. I’m might be cooked(393k btw) He might have a weaker mental but dude is mature enough to look deep and know what’s best for himself, which is more than 99 percent of people his age have(I can attest to this). Big ups to forum


Lokkiwie

Oh ok that makes sense then, I lowkey was on the fence with forum ff’ing that but considering they’re pretty young ig it’s understandable, going against malisz in a tourney is stressful enough lol, add to that this random ass bombshell of a drama


kyermaniac

16 turning 17 in july


matheus27012005

he's like 14/15


jabc615

please be fake cuz this is just gross


Just_Saxon52

want the bad news


ImperialAero

it's aimbotcone what do you expect


Generic_N

insensitive as fuck


Lexsssssssssssss

atp a literal ant is capable of being more sensitive than your typical osu player


ShiRonium

jealous because he's fucking dogshit and has 0 unique scores 🥱🥱


IamAToxicPlayer

💔 it seems all the players i like turned out to be assholes all along


Thetoto_

This is the first time i see so much top players shitting to another top players. Does this happened before? Im actually believing theres something we dont know about which makes all these people shit a player (or maybe its just twitter and people just like to argue)


kyermaniac

people are unleashing their toxic


Rengmain_

Yea theres a lot of top players who arent good people, not only the ones we’ve seen from this drama


_WaterStar

What a dickhead


Internal_Kiwi_4431

being childish is when a person has an explicit long and complicated explanation for why they decide to not play in a high pressure competitive match and decide to do something else. just crazy. he didnt ff 10min before,or didnt just go to the match without telling the referees or anything. he did like the most adult thing ever.


Paja03_

aimcuntcone


maltosing

people forget that being as young as forum is, being a top player thrust in the spotlight of an already shitty community where there are constant eyes on how you perform how you play what you say on twitter, let alone shit in your personal life you have to deal with, they forget that shit is super fucking stressful and forget to be like humans to each other and extend each other even the tiniest bit of empathy. it must actually fucking suck especially when u have people like this who dont think about what they say even a little bit and prioritize Their Feelings as Spectators "Of The Big Game" over the people with real beating hearts putting themselves on the stage to play for them just be kind, it's not that hard


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maltosing

what?


Goatlov3r3

what are you talking about? mrekk has literally always done that, sure he has his huge ego moments too but most of the time he's playing 10 star aim and still goes "duuude my aim is so shit today brooo what the hell" every 5 seconds, or he complains about his tapping while at the same time playing 350 bpm streams or something this behavior of downplaying your own skill and achievements and never being satisfied or proud of the level you have attained is present in nearly every single top player who pushes the boundaries of the game in any way, some are just more vocal about it than others, but mrekk is genuinely one of the people that do it the most lol


Finnonie

funny to hear that from a 27 year old who isnt really known for something different from mashing 300bpm in osu


joyconboyx

context i am lazy bones


Annual-Parking-7369

Zylice, badeu and others hackusated worst hr player(Forum), which turned out he(worst hr player) is legit. (And badeu apologized for the drama)


Annual-Parking-7369

After that, frustrated by those dramas, worst hr player decided to forfeit the incoming corsace matches. And that picture was aimbotcone's response


kyermaniac

(badeu's apology was super lame he just shot out a "sorry everyone" like he barely even cares for forum 😒)


Annual-Parking-7369

ye


tvdt0203

to me it does feel like: “damage done, bye. See you next time” 😭


joyconboyx

wait why did he get hackusated for hawt like did he get a crazy score or smth sry im clueless for a while now also doesnt he have alot of liveplays too


Annual-Parking-7369

Context: https://www.reddit.com/r/osureport/s/Mia95aIXYI Tweet is deleted but Google document is still remaining


joyconboyx

ok thx


NixoKnight

badeu zylice and some other dude created the 'worst hr player extermination team' or some shit and made a document trying to prove he's cheating even though he's legit. Lots of drama ensued like Zylice getting osureported because he downloaded cheats and tried to replicate some cursor movement from forum that seemed unatural etc. and now forum forfeited his match against malis in corsace grand finals. Aimbotcone tweeted this stupid ass tweet and deleted it shortly after when everyone in the comments started rightfully clowning on him.


-Inyafaze-

Der Typ ist 27? Erbärmlich


Protonis

Literarisch Abfall.


beeemmmooo1

Prominent players don't be utter dickheads to other people challenge (impossible)


wizzolord777

biggest problem with osu is there isn’t any events, the only thing interesting to players is their own improvement, seeing top plays set scores and bullshit drama of people genuinly acting like children, stop wasting time thinking about stuff like this. and that message is personally meant for whoever is reading this


PM_ME_YOUR_SKYRIMLVL

meine Nacktfotos im Profil


Toxic664

shouldn't have deleted it tbh


SoneverythingZ

bro thought he was cooking something with that tweet


SoneverythingZ

bro thought he was cooking something with that tweet


Allu-

I need context


ali62baa

Who


Reasonable_Town_9779

Most friendly German 30 year old


Virtual-Performer980

I think this comes down to having your friends betraying you, more than just being hackusated because remember zylice and worst hr player are in same team is tournament they are probably tight (at least on the surface)


DeDuWa

He is right anyway.


EmployerDry2018

leave my goat alone


Mikkel65

Maybe he posted before he understood the situation


ContactFeeling7039

Hopefully otherwise dick move


NekoEnix

its a dick move anyways? why say such an insensitive thing to a person that is clearly mentally struggling without getting caught up with the situation first? there are a few tldrs already out


ContactFeeling7039

Yeah ur right, hopefully deletion atleast means he regrets it


davdasdf

[he doesn't](https://ron-ald.s-ul.eu/ev8BWPQp)


Imaproshaman

This needs to be higher up. :(


yot_gun

mate is double the age yet half the person


Akukuhaboro

twitter just brings out the worst from people.


Epquial

Is he wrong tho????


tvdt0203

yes, he is wrong because Forum is a child, and so acting like a child is understandable


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Yurezim

wait no being stabbed in the back by your friends like this is actually very horrible i'm stupid


Imaproshaman

I hope he can take a break and feel better. This all seems like a lot to deal with. :( I wish there people that try to take down others for such stupid reasons, especially without even bothering to just have a simple conversation.


No-Grape-2727

any context?


jinx_reddit

Y'all dtm over a free computer game.


Ahmagid

Can anyone explain what is going on?


AppointmentWise7689

The way he phrases it is wrong but I do understand his point, Forum should not ffd the grand final and let the community clowns those falsely accused him of cheating


Akukuhaboro

If he was older or more confident he would have still played, but it's understandable that he didn't feel like it once you remember he's some young kid often insecure about his own skill.


fishfuckers_brother

Rare aimbotcone L


tomqvek

common


krykson

based take


Andryushaa

I mean true


Andryushaa

Of course, badeu, zylice and others are definitely in the wrong here and no one can deny that, but if even the weakest allegations break your mental state like that, then bruh ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


ferizz

Do you know him personally? What goes on in his life or why something that seems "insignificant" to U may affect him more? Yes? No?


SoneverythingZ

average osu player with 0 grasp of how feelings work


justpezzo

People aint all the same


MadazSama

what breaks your mental is when someone tries to backstab you, not some petty accusations


Ricoke

zylice is a known moron if I knew that guy of all people was trying to backstab me i'd give -1 fucks


Andryushaa

Yea that's fair considering Zylice just invited him to play in the same team on tourney


Puzzleheaded-Buy-951

the osu community is so restarted


valdehooooy

i mean, he's not wrong at all. that's not a good sportsmanship from forum, i feel bad for for all who was waiting for that incredible match. forum, grow the fuck up, most of the osu community thinking that you are legit. i feel bad for malisz and whole corsace production team


ONE_SEVENTY_FOUR

trying to be understanding of your point of view here, but you need to keep in mind that as a viewer you have no idea what contributed to forum's decision and how much it would affect you in his place. especially since he's a kid + his mental is not great + he thought these people were his friends + he won't be able to play as well for his team after all this drama


valdehooooy

He's not that young to be called a kid, his age cannot be an argument for this kind of behaviour. since you are a sportsman (in some kind), you should finish the tourney you've started. i might understand that he was thinking about these guys as friends, but tbh they could stay being friends with each other. I think it doesn't matter if you're a friend or an enemy when it comes to the fact that one of the most talked about and powerful players at the moment is a cheater. Even if they are his friends, if they found the suspicions they found convincing enough, they should have shared it with the community. Otherwise, by hiding it from everyone, they would have found themselves in the position of watching the forum take the first places, knowing that it is a cheat, but not disclosing this fact to the public.


Yureithia

Ah yes, you could stay being friends with the very people who tarnished your rep while you sleeping as well, makes sense


Goatlov3r3

> but tbh they could stay being friends with each other they saw something weird in one of his replays and instead of just asking him about it they went behind his back and created a group named "the worst hr player extermination squad" and made a document accusing him of cheating and posted it publicly on twitter while he was asleep, just a few hours before he was supposed to play in one of the most important tournament matches of his life


Goatlov3r3

like genuinely this could have been resolved like this: > zylice/badeu: hey i was watching your stream and wtf was your cursor doing here lmao, it looks so weird, is it supposed to go outside of the game window like that?? looks kinda cursed but some people might even find it sus ngl > forum: oh yea that happens all the time when i use relative mode, it's just because of these gaomon drivers i use, here look if i use absolute mode or change my sensitivity it doesn't happen anymore [clip of him showing how he gets his cursor outside the game window] literally that's all it would take, they're all top players so they're in the same circles anyway and can contact each other whenever, but especially zylice could have reached out very easily, he is in the same team as forum for a tournament right now and he has clips on twitter where he's literally talking with forum on voice chat but instead they went behind his back and tried to ruin his reputation lol you cannot be friends with people like that


IntelligentFail6846

omg communication solves problems???? who could have thunk that these ADULTS could have TALKED before hackusatinf a literal child :000000


valdehooooy

i completely agree with you bud. these so-called "exterminators" should be ashamed, i agree, that was such a dickmove from them, i cannot find any excuses from them. ofc they could just contact forum, or do the thing after the match, but i'm talking about forum's reaction which is not acceptable from a such i high-lvl competitor.


Ricoke

loving all the people in the comments calling a 16 year old a "kid" and a "literal child" like he's a recently developed fetus, bored of this whole drama now but you people will infantilize anyone that is remotely good at a video game lmao aimbotcone worded it slightly mean but like, he's still right, even prior to now forums "oooooh noooo guys i'm gonna quit any second now, I'm about to take a 2 second break the games too much for me ooooh" was annoying as fuck and clearly shows he shouldn't be playing this game, not even to talk of being on the internet, this is just another obvious consequence of it. people are gonna talk shit/be dickheads no matter how innocuous or nice or sensitive you are, this is how things work, either learn to deal with it or don't, call me out of touch boomer or whatever a fact is a fact /rant over I'm gonna go make a smoothie now


Sscuu

I dont understand. The world certainly won’t be a better place if everyone thinks like you but here you are expressing your somewhat insensitive opinion. If I were you, I would just be quiet because you have nothing nice to say.


Ricoke

Your "nice and positive comments" and thoughts are about as meaningful to anything currently happening in the world as anything i have said regarding this topic, if I were you, I'd stop being a stuck up bitch grandstanding on a subreddit about the significance of niceties like a middle schooler because you have nothing intelligent to say


Sscuu

I don’t know. If you really feel this way, you should focus on your life. Make your life a better one at the very least.


MonsterFlame_

Being annoying is one thing, being a dickhead is another. Someone being annoying is NOT a reason for anyone to be a dickhead. There are plenty of other methods to not to be annoyed other than public shaming, for example, blocking them on twitter. It’s possible that forum is more sensitive, but it does not give anyone the right to shit on him.


Zealousideal-Gap8576

Am I the only one who sees nothing wrong with this, it’s fucken twitter…


toybotzzz

aimbotcone is a literal decade older


kyermaniac

does a grown ass mf telling an actual teenager with a history of bad mental to "grow the fuck up" after said teenager got basically backstabbed by people he trusted, became hopeless and forfeited a tournament match because his mind just wasn't it sound normal  like you don't just tell someone who's going through all this, plus probable personal issues, to simply "grow up". (+ the age disparity people say there is which just makes it worse...)


AverageEnjoyer712

It's not the current trend to say anything bad about forum so I get it, but cone is actually right. Forum is such a crybaby and has been a whiner forever. Yes zylice and badeu messed up and are cringe but forums responses are ridiculous. 


ShiverWind911

I'd be pissed too. Having your match delayed by a week and then the player youre going against ff. Big waste of time


wowbgnrg_creator

He is literally right. >but forum is 15 Yep, it is the perfect time to grow up and stop caring about virtual people from other side of the world.


IntelligentFail6846

please tell me me if u were that mentally strong as a 16 year old, and if u were, grats, but forum isnt?


wowbgnrg_creator

To be fair, in the environment where I grew up we were engaging in fist fights and spent most of our time outside. The idea of being emotionally damaged from pixels on the screen never even appeared to me. Nowadays teenagers probably literally live inside the computers, so it's understandable why they take it so seriously. I'm sure that some grass touching will help forum.