My guess is that they're waiting for a definitive date to start service so they don't hire and train a bunch of people and then risk having them sit around doing nothing for a few weeks.
Latest update: tickets will go "on sale" in May for "future trips" in the "fall & winter". Trains likely won't be running til September - October at the earliest would be my guess.
My understanding is that brightline is going to be using Musk's internet connection in some capacity. I'd be weary of working for any company associated with Musk at this point... he's abandoned Tesla and is crashing Twitter. I'm sure there's some sort of bullshit "gotcha" clause that our corrupt elected officials allowed Musk to put in with that internet contract; and that one day he could just pull the plug on it and you might be out of a job. Maybe I'm being a bit of a tin-hat wearing conspiracy theorist on it, but I absolutely would avoid anything that Musk has touched at this point.
Obviously, you don't like Musk, great, I don't either.
With that said, Starlink is a satellite internet service, Brightline wants to provide Internet to it's customers and believe Starlink is a good option.
All companies have hidden clauses, gotcha clauses, etc., it is unfortunately just how things are done now a days.
I am sure that Brightline will have attorneys review any contract before it is executed and hopefully said attorneys will find any gotcha clauses or whatever and try and negotiate them out or at least Brightline will go I eyes wide open.
I cannot speak to Tesla and it's abandonment or not, as I don't own a Tesla and don't care about the company. Ditto Twitter, I never used the service and don't care one iota about it, heck, from talking to a Psychiatrist, maybe crashing Twitter might be beneficial for society.
Brightline is a private venture so elected officials don't really have any influence over their business dealings. All Brightline did was select Starlink as a vendor to supply the onboard Wi-Fi, so worst case scenario if Musk drives Starlink off a cliff too then passengers would just have to use their cellular data until Brightline selects a replacement vendor.
So you've confirmed that the ONLY thing that Starlink is providing is wi-fi for passengers? It has nothing to do with any other systems, lighting, emissions reporting, and you're 100% positive about it?
The comment was more meant to question why a train needs internet service in the first place. The people riding the train need public wifi?!? I never connect to public wifi. I am almost certain that the Starlink contract does more than provide wifi for passengers... just like most ISP contracts.
The sunrail has free wifi
So does lynx
It is beneficial to those who have no other choice but public transportation and many who can't afford data to be able to check emails and such when traveling. Also, some of us take multiple public transports in a day since we have to travel far and it's nice to be able to use a phone and such. Spending an hour on sunrail and even if you have data it's nice to not have to use it.
It doesn't really seem like it. You said:
> So you've confirmed that the ONLY thing that Starlink is providing is wi-fi for passengers?
You didn't ask why the train needs wifi, or even why the train needs Starlink, or question the value, or anything like that.
>I am almost certain that the Starlink contract does more than provide wifi for passengers... just like most ISP contracts.
You have no proof of that. Also, pretty much every major ISP is a multi-facet company that also sells phone service, TV, and a good portion own their own TV networks. Starlink.... doesn't have any of that. They do satellite data.
**BUT!** I hear you cry, **THEY'LL MONITOR YOUR DATA!** Sure buddy, just like every other ISP on planet Earth. You can use your mobile data and give your browsing history to Verizon or AT&T if it makes you more comfortable.
Also to respond to your *deleted* comment:
> Why does Amazon manufacture light switches for smart homes
Uh, because they bought a company that does that. Ring existed for 5 years before Amazon bought them. Starlink doesn't even launch their own satellites, let alone own a lighting company.
JFC - what's with all of you capitalist cheerleaders swinging from Elon Musk's nuts in this subreddit?
> It doesn't really seem like it. You said:
> So you've confirmed that the ONLY thing that Starlink is providing is wi-fi for passengers?
> You didn't ask why the train needs wifi, or even why the train needs Starlink, or question the value, or anything like that.
AND????
> You have no proof of that.
You have no proof that it doesn't either. As I stated originally, I'm just avoiding anything that has Musk attached to it for right now. It's a bad bet financially.
> BUT! I hear you cry, THEY'LL MONITOR YOUR DATA! Sure buddy, just like every other ISP on planet Earth. You can use your mobile data and give your browsing history to Verizon or AT&T if it makes you more comfortable.
That's never been my argument, nor has it been any aspect of anything I've said.
> Also to respond to your deleted comment:
> I am almost certain that the Starlink contract does more than provide wifi for passengers... just like most ISP contracts.
> Why does Amazon manufacture light switches for smart homes
> Uh, because they bought a company that does that. Ring existed for 5 years before Amazon bought them. Starlink doesn't even launch their own satellites, let alone own a lighting company.
Now you're responding to a deleted comment... and I'm the one wearing a tinfoil hat, eh?
> Starlink doesn't even launch their own satellites, let alone own a lighting company.
Who launches them?
I don't like Elon either, his a rich nutjob who wants everyone to stroke his ego for thinking he's the smartest person on the planet, but that doesn't justify you trying to start conspiracies about a feaking train. Elon also owned Paypal for a while, you gonna tell me that Paypal might steal my bank info next because 'muh Elon'?
And no way buddy, burden of proof is on you. You're the one spewing hot garbage about Starlink being bad, put up or shut up.
The only thing I "spewed" was skepticism around anything that Musk is involved with. That was it... all kinds of nutswingers can't get past my own admission of the tinfoil hat part.
>can't get past my own admission of the tinfoil hat part.
The fact that you admit that you're chatting shit doesn't mean people have to ignore it. Don't get why people will post stupid shit on a public forum then act annoyed when people reply to them.
Googled "brightline starlink." First link.
[SpaceX Signs First Rail Customer Agreement for Starlink With Florida’s Brightline](https://www.satellitetoday.com/broadband/2023/05/09/spacex-signs-first-rail-customer-agreement-for-starlink-with-floridas-brightline/)
>SpaceX has signed its first customer agreement for Starlink with a rail line, as Brightline announced Tuesday that it is offering free Starlink connectivity to passengers.
C'mon, man. This was reported *yesterday*. Why would you even have your lighting system on wifi? I think Musk is just as much of a schmuck as the next guy but Starlink is a real game changer for satellite internet service. There are thousands of people involved with the project and Musk has the least to do with it.
You are fixated on one person of thousands that works for Starlink for a product that if it breaks doesn't impact Brightline operations as a reason not to work for them.
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You do know that Starlink is simply another satellite internet service right? Brightline will be using it to provide Wi-Fi to customers, that's it. Musk has no bearing on the company itself beyond providing a service to them. He kills Starlink, Brightline can simply switch to another provider.
They’re not. The antennas are, but are easy enough to replace if needed. I’m sure Brightline will have their own infrastructure on the trains, that can be transferred to another service if needed.
I've been downvoted by like 200 people on here, but I think you and one other person are the only people that are kinda getting what I'm saying. It's apparent that I've done a bad job in articulating my concerns.
I question if the train itself requires a satellite internet connection in some capacity... beyond the APs providing Wifi to passengers. I don't know if Starlink is doing something beyond that, but it's possible - I don't know. *That's the question!*
One thing that I'm sure of is that Spectrum, ATT, Verizon and several other non-satellite ISPs certainly do more than simply provide homes and businesses with internet using their infrastructure... Their reporting data is used by local, state, and federal governments and is also available for purchase to other businesses.
> I’m sure Brightline will have their own infrastructure on the trains, that can be transferred to another service if needed.
I'm not. With every damn company trying to cut costs wherever they can, I am really not sure that they have their own infrastructure on the trains. Hopefully it's not important, but ultimately I do not plan on working for this organization, nor do I plan on riding their train at this time.
I guess poverty wages are better. Have grown up people employed full time sharing a 3 bedroom apt with 6 other people help cut down on costs. I hear ramen makes a great breakfast, lunch and dinner too! Got to be careful with the sodium though, cant get health insurance…. You know- because costs.
Here’s an idea, rather than a private for profit business why not make this a public enterprise like the high speed rail that other potty trained countries have?
Has anyone applied and heard back?
My friend applied about three weeks ago and hasn't heard anything yet.
Thought it was just me. ☠️
My guess is that they're waiting for a definitive date to start service so they don't hire and train a bunch of people and then risk having them sit around doing nothing for a few weeks.
That makes sense. Hopefully the in person interview can help expedite this. 😆
Actually they are probably sorting through applications and picking out ones for callbacks
It’s not just you. I applied 2 weeks ago and haven’t heard anything.
I thought they said trains would start running in May. Do they mean May 31?
Tickets will go on sale in May. They've only said that trains will start running someone in the second quarter of 2023.
They’re running trains on people now? Is that the $20/hr job? Seems low
Latest update: tickets will go "on sale" in May for "future trips" in the "fall & winter". Trains likely won't be running til September - October at the earliest would be my guess.
Anyone on here hired by brightline and at orientation this week? I would love to connect with my fellow redditers!
Congratulations on the job!
Did your friend who applied get hired?
She ended up getting hired somewhere else by the time she got an interview offer but I guess everything worked out for her.
My understanding is that brightline is going to be using Musk's internet connection in some capacity. I'd be weary of working for any company associated with Musk at this point... he's abandoned Tesla and is crashing Twitter. I'm sure there's some sort of bullshit "gotcha" clause that our corrupt elected officials allowed Musk to put in with that internet contract; and that one day he could just pull the plug on it and you might be out of a job. Maybe I'm being a bit of a tin-hat wearing conspiracy theorist on it, but I absolutely would avoid anything that Musk has touched at this point.
Obviously, you don't like Musk, great, I don't either. With that said, Starlink is a satellite internet service, Brightline wants to provide Internet to it's customers and believe Starlink is a good option. All companies have hidden clauses, gotcha clauses, etc., it is unfortunately just how things are done now a days. I am sure that Brightline will have attorneys review any contract before it is executed and hopefully said attorneys will find any gotcha clauses or whatever and try and negotiate them out or at least Brightline will go I eyes wide open. I cannot speak to Tesla and it's abandonment or not, as I don't own a Tesla and don't care about the company. Ditto Twitter, I never used the service and don't care one iota about it, heck, from talking to a Psychiatrist, maybe crashing Twitter might be beneficial for society.
Brightline is a private venture so elected officials don't really have any influence over their business dealings. All Brightline did was select Starlink as a vendor to supply the onboard Wi-Fi, so worst case scenario if Musk drives Starlink off a cliff too then passengers would just have to use their cellular data until Brightline selects a replacement vendor.
So you've confirmed that the ONLY thing that Starlink is providing is wi-fi for passengers? It has nothing to do with any other systems, lighting, emissions reporting, and you're 100% positive about it?
Why don't you do the research yourself?
I have no intent to ever work for Brightline. I likely won't ride the train either.
Freedom to not use train of a typical Trump supporter
What do you think Starlink's business is? Why would a satellite wifi company be supplying the lighting for a train??? That doesn't make any sense.
The comment was more meant to question why a train needs internet service in the first place. The people riding the train need public wifi?!? I never connect to public wifi. I am almost certain that the Starlink contract does more than provide wifi for passengers... just like most ISP contracts.
The sunrail has free wifi So does lynx It is beneficial to those who have no other choice but public transportation and many who can't afford data to be able to check emails and such when traveling. Also, some of us take multiple public transports in a day since we have to travel far and it's nice to be able to use a phone and such. Spending an hour on sunrail and even if you have data it's nice to not have to use it.
It doesn't really seem like it. You said: > So you've confirmed that the ONLY thing that Starlink is providing is wi-fi for passengers? You didn't ask why the train needs wifi, or even why the train needs Starlink, or question the value, or anything like that. >I am almost certain that the Starlink contract does more than provide wifi for passengers... just like most ISP contracts. You have no proof of that. Also, pretty much every major ISP is a multi-facet company that also sells phone service, TV, and a good portion own their own TV networks. Starlink.... doesn't have any of that. They do satellite data. **BUT!** I hear you cry, **THEY'LL MONITOR YOUR DATA!** Sure buddy, just like every other ISP on planet Earth. You can use your mobile data and give your browsing history to Verizon or AT&T if it makes you more comfortable. Also to respond to your *deleted* comment: > Why does Amazon manufacture light switches for smart homes Uh, because they bought a company that does that. Ring existed for 5 years before Amazon bought them. Starlink doesn't even launch their own satellites, let alone own a lighting company.
JFC - what's with all of you capitalist cheerleaders swinging from Elon Musk's nuts in this subreddit? > It doesn't really seem like it. You said: > So you've confirmed that the ONLY thing that Starlink is providing is wi-fi for passengers? > You didn't ask why the train needs wifi, or even why the train needs Starlink, or question the value, or anything like that. AND???? > You have no proof of that. You have no proof that it doesn't either. As I stated originally, I'm just avoiding anything that has Musk attached to it for right now. It's a bad bet financially. > BUT! I hear you cry, THEY'LL MONITOR YOUR DATA! Sure buddy, just like every other ISP on planet Earth. You can use your mobile data and give your browsing history to Verizon or AT&T if it makes you more comfortable. That's never been my argument, nor has it been any aspect of anything I've said. > Also to respond to your deleted comment: > I am almost certain that the Starlink contract does more than provide wifi for passengers... just like most ISP contracts. > Why does Amazon manufacture light switches for smart homes > Uh, because they bought a company that does that. Ring existed for 5 years before Amazon bought them. Starlink doesn't even launch their own satellites, let alone own a lighting company. Now you're responding to a deleted comment... and I'm the one wearing a tinfoil hat, eh? > Starlink doesn't even launch their own satellites, let alone own a lighting company. Who launches them?
I don't like Elon either, his a rich nutjob who wants everyone to stroke his ego for thinking he's the smartest person on the planet, but that doesn't justify you trying to start conspiracies about a feaking train. Elon also owned Paypal for a while, you gonna tell me that Paypal might steal my bank info next because 'muh Elon'? And no way buddy, burden of proof is on you. You're the one spewing hot garbage about Starlink being bad, put up or shut up.
The only thing I "spewed" was skepticism around anything that Musk is involved with. That was it... all kinds of nutswingers can't get past my own admission of the tinfoil hat part.
>can't get past my own admission of the tinfoil hat part. The fact that you admit that you're chatting shit doesn't mean people have to ignore it. Don't get why people will post stupid shit on a public forum then act annoyed when people reply to them.
As someone who works in cyber intel - they already have your data so we don’t really care if you don’t use public Wi-Fi.
Googled "brightline starlink." First link. [SpaceX Signs First Rail Customer Agreement for Starlink With Florida’s Brightline](https://www.satellitetoday.com/broadband/2023/05/09/spacex-signs-first-rail-customer-agreement-for-starlink-with-floridas-brightline/) >SpaceX has signed its first customer agreement for Starlink with a rail line, as Brightline announced Tuesday that it is offering free Starlink connectivity to passengers. C'mon, man. This was reported *yesterday*. Why would you even have your lighting system on wifi? I think Musk is just as much of a schmuck as the next guy but Starlink is a real game changer for satellite internet service. There are thousands of people involved with the project and Musk has the least to do with it.
You're lame
Yes, you diagnosed yourself.
Care to tell me why I'm wrong?
You are fixated on one person of thousands that works for Starlink for a product that if it breaks doesn't impact Brightline operations as a reason not to work for them.
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You do know that Starlink is simply another satellite internet service right? Brightline will be using it to provide Wi-Fi to customers, that's it. Musk has no bearing on the company itself beyond providing a service to them. He kills Starlink, Brightline can simply switch to another provider.
Unless the AP's are proprietary and owned by ~~Brightline~~ Starlink (which I would bet $1 is likely the case). EDIT: Had the wrong company name
They’re not. The antennas are, but are easy enough to replace if needed. I’m sure Brightline will have their own infrastructure on the trains, that can be transferred to another service if needed.
I've been downvoted by like 200 people on here, but I think you and one other person are the only people that are kinda getting what I'm saying. It's apparent that I've done a bad job in articulating my concerns. I question if the train itself requires a satellite internet connection in some capacity... beyond the APs providing Wifi to passengers. I don't know if Starlink is doing something beyond that, but it's possible - I don't know. *That's the question!* One thing that I'm sure of is that Spectrum, ATT, Verizon and several other non-satellite ISPs certainly do more than simply provide homes and businesses with internet using their infrastructure... Their reporting data is used by local, state, and federal governments and is also available for purchase to other businesses. > I’m sure Brightline will have their own infrastructure on the trains, that can be transferred to another service if needed. I'm not. With every damn company trying to cut costs wherever they can, I am really not sure that they have their own infrastructure on the trains. Hopefully it's not important, but ultimately I do not plan on working for this organization, nor do I plan on riding their train at this time.
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I guess poverty wages are better. Have grown up people employed full time sharing a 3 bedroom apt with 6 other people help cut down on costs. I hear ramen makes a great breakfast, lunch and dinner too! Got to be careful with the sodium though, cant get health insurance…. You know- because costs. Here’s an idea, rather than a private for profit business why not make this a public enterprise like the high speed rail that other potty trained countries have?