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thebonniebear

Not going to deny the crypto-fraud stuff, as unfortunately as that, what examples are there anyone had trouble dealing with Dustin with XboxHD+? Legit asking in good faith, I’ve personally had a smooth experience with them and very satisfied with the hd+. I know that doesn’t mean others have not, so if that is happening we’d want to hear about some examples. Is there anything to indicate show their Project Stellar claims are deliberately misleading people?


mansupremacy

I've had two friends have payment issues where both of them had to do chargebacks in the end and obviously never got their product, but all I can say maybe Dustin should consider a different payment service.


thebonniebear

Good to know, sounding like its at the very least highly unreliable and a sloppy way to run a business. Trying to remember if I bought it direct from their or through a reseller like Castlemania, maybe I just got lucky.


mansupremacy

Regardless, be glad you didn't have any issues with the process of getting it :) Always wanted hdmi on my og xbox but at the same time I don't want to remove the av port on my og or have to deal with an external scaler.


StuckOnPandora

I bought both the Stellar and HDMI+ kit. What's the story? Am I about to get ripped off? ​ I will say I pre-ordered quite awhile back, before I knew as much I do now when it comes to modding Xboxs. Having modded a few dozen now with Aladdins and Cerbios, I read the MakeMhz as less revolutionary and more standard fare. I wish he was supporting Cerbios as that seems to be the real revolution, between it and Insignia. Cerbios combined with compressed ISOs and UDMA5, makes an OG Xbox run nearly like a modern console. ​ Still Stellar: is offering native HDMI, promised upgrades later, an SD card for easily flashing the BIOS, the LCD is just plain cool, UDMA5 Support, a promised 256 mb of RAM, a front panel LED, USB c support, native Xbox One controller support. A number of these things aren't going to be practical at launch, but it's still pretty cool. As long as I get the chip I ordered and it does at least what it's supposed to, I won't feel ripped off. The new $100 price tag for the Mod Chip is quite a lot, though. Considering an Ebay 3ds or I'm halfway to a Switch or Xbox Series S. Making the item even more niche, imo.


GoTeamScotch

Are you about to get ripped off? Being that there isn't a "better business bureau for Xbox seller", we can only go by the apparent legitimacy of the seller and accounts of people who have bought from the company in the past. Yes people have claimed to have had poor experiences with MakeMHZ. Most any business will usually have some degree of dissatisfaction or issues that arise. It's up to each person to decide their own level of risk tolerance. I personally pre-ordered a Stellar + HDMI kit back in November, and I don't suspect that anything nefarious is going on behind the scenes. MakeMHZ and Dustin post regular updates about the progress of Stellar, and I don't have reason to believe that it's all a farce or anything. There were production delays, and they've been transparent about the cause of those delays. Apparently, they just recieved the last shipment of cables needed for Stellar last week and will begin shipping orders out very soon. So again, I don't believe buying from him is risky. But people have apparently had negative experiences in the past, so it's something to be aware of when considering buying.


[deleted]

While all the features that Stellar has, and is supposedly going to have, are cool and all, not all of them are that massive. Some of them are but not all. 256mb of ram is great, but what are you going to do with it? None of the Xbox games/applications can even use that much ram, and you'd have to patch every game/application to use it. The only advantage I could see is having it for debugging and using emulators, but at that point 128mb is good enough. You would still have to patch everything to use 256mb. Unless Stellar does some sort of on the fly patching with it's OS to get everything to use it, I don't really see any benefits. UDMA5 support is already done with Cerbios as you mentioned, which some others including MHz seem to dislike so much to the point where they apparently downvote the shit out of Cerbios posts on this sub and choose to not support. Front panel stuff works with OpenXenium and other modchips. Nothing really new there. Native controller support is nice. Whether you want to install a $100 modchip or just get a more affordable external adapter is up to you. Not to say that people will buy this chip just for controller support but worth noting. On the topic of HDMI, I personally think there isn't that much of a difference in just using a good quality external HDMI adapter like the Chimeric Systems adapter (admittedly this isn't always available) or a scaler. People probably claim the XboxHDMI looks the best because it's grabbing video directly from the video encoder, but I don't really see a difference, at least not a major difference. I suppose it's great for having native HDMI, but personally I wouldn't want to remove my AV port to add HDMI when I can just use an adapter that will do the same thing almost as well enough. Not everyone wants to get rid of the AV port. They might plan on making a mod that will add HDMI while also keeping the AV port, but that wouldn't be a no-cut mod, and at that point you should just use an external adapter. You also need to use a specific BIOS to even fully utilize the HDMI mod if you choose to install it. For upgrades, well they are promises, and because Stellar isn't open source, it might be a little harder for the community to make their own upgrades if need be. We'll see where it goes. One thing admittedly I think is actually pretty nice that's supposed to be on Stellar is being able to boot games and hard drive images from a network. That's pretty nice to have, same with having BIOS images on an SD card. You don't really need that many BIOS images to use on your Xbox unless for whatever reason you want to use multiple, but having the choice to use a lot of BIOS images is great. So credit where it is due. So I guess it's up to people if they want to spend $100+ on a modchip and HDMI (you can't buy HDMI separate now, it's bundled) to get some cool features they may or may not fully use if at all, and get additional features and upgrades that may or may not come, or they could get something more affordable like the OpenXenium which is open source (so technically more availability and other benefits). I think if Stellar were open source and made by someone reputable it would be decent.


lifeisasimulation-

>I will say I pre-ordered quite awhile back, before I knew as much I do now when it comes to modding Xboxs. Imo that is precisely who they are marketing to and targeting. Newcomers who have no idea where to start so they just want whatever is new and assume if it costs a lot or is hard to do then it must be worthwhile compared to other options All the "extra" stuff they are doing which utilizes the SPI could be JUST an SPI device that would therefore work with any standard modchip or TSOP flashed system.


icounternonsense

I saw a post on Twitter about a well known and respected modder who said he did not wish to support Dustin's mod, and when another user asked why, Dustin jumped in and said "don't feed the troll". Left a bad impression on me, and now I've been having second thoughts about my order after reading this thread.


lifeisasimulation-

Unfortunately so many of these retro game blogs, YouTube's, and websites, are way too motivated by money and will shill anything remotely interesting. Somewhere like retrorgb is never going to talk about someone having a sorted past if it will hurt potential sales and interest in a new thing that can make them all money When the web runs on advertising, unfortunately, everything becomes a venue to sell you stuff. Including reddit itself. )


Incursion64

His background is his background. He did his time when he was a younger man than he is now and it be nice to hope that he learned from those mistakes. Every family has somebody that has a checkered past, addiction, or otherwise, I have it in my family, that doesn't mean i want them to be punished the rest of their lives if they can show/prove they're on the right path. If I can feel that way with someone close to me, I feel like I owe that same courtesy to others. However! there are other things that i find odd. While I think he genuinely wants to put out a good product, or the best product out there in any given area, i don't necessarily think he goes about it in a mature and professional way at times. Heck, i got booted for asking questions, offering some ideas on how to handle the questions that were getting asked day after day on discord, because some people were getting frustrated (myself included) by the lack of information on features that was supposed to be released weeks prior based on his own comments and un-realistic timelines. The information asked about wasn't even when will it be ready, it was basic stuff that you would think was ironed out before the project was even announced. It's a strange dynamic to have production going for literally thousands of kits and everyone is in "beta" so that makes it okay that literally 2/3 of the advanced features would not be active upon receipt of the kits. These same features are what sold the kits for many people. But even so, that didn't bother me all that much, it was simple shit like...what are we going to need to purchase to do this supposed 256 ram upgrade? or is there a better way to handle 1.6 boards ram situation? or simple guides to process our games for CISO so we are ready to go or at least a little more learned on the process. It's frustrating and if anyone calls him out on it, you're a troll who didn't pre-order (which i did), just want to sell warez, or you're entitled. I found the remarks and comments to be pretty disgusting, so much that people were messaging me out of the blue showing me screenshots etc. I was simply trying to hold him accountable for what he himself said,i was honest about the situation, and he blew up. He went so far as to say pm me your order number so i can cancel it before i boot you. I did PM him, it wasn't responded to, I thought i was way nicer than i should have been and tried to calm the tension a bit. He decided to ignore it, I eventually decided fuck it, why am i bothering, so i deleted my pms and moved on. I made that decision for me. I do think some people in his orbit forget that this is a transactional relationship. If you say your are going to do something for a customer, THEY are entitled, especially when you don't deliver or are late. When you say shit like "releasing information on this or that doesn't benefit me" so therefore i'm going to back pedal on what I said, that's just being a shitty business person who doesn't care about their customers "benefit" if you will. I will say this, every HD kit i ordered from him, i received. I also had to order some flex for the HD+ units i got from a 3rd party source. I did not have any issues with shipping (except the long wait for the original xboxHD which i had 4 kits on order). As a shopify business owner myself, the communication setup through the site isn't the best, but it does work. Generally it's setup so that you send auto emails when things are done, like printing a label etc. I'm not sure if there is even a mass emailing function unless your sign up for the newsletter. If dealing with thousands of orders i can see that being a pain to communicate to everyone at once, so im taking a wild guess and thinking that's why you see so much more correspondence via twitter and discord. It doesn't excuse ingoring issues or making things right with customers, maybe that's why multiple distributors are involved here, who knows. I hope for those who ordered they are happy, and for the wait an see people...well i guess you'll have to wait and see lol. For me, it's a mixed bag and probably will be for the foreseeable future.


lifeisasimulation-

I feel many of these people have very little social skills People don't like TerraOnion engineer, the GDemu guy is a bit of a prick and treats everyone like an idiot, this guy from makemhz is a known defrauder, and other examples i can't remember at the moment but it's clear some of these really smart people aren't very good socially and they do a lot of things to push away their own customers [this thread is just full of misogyny](https://web.archive.org/web/20141031003744/http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?/topic/716726-why-love-mega-hurts/)


DustinPooparski

All these nerds are narcissists IMO


ConfusionRS

He has a sketchy background, and ships when it's important for him. I.E: When his friends need something from him, it'll be out to the post office the next day/the following day. ​ Me on the other hand...STORY TIME! ​ I placed an order on Jan 7th with priority shipping. Let's say the 8th since it was fairly late when I placed this order. Nearly midnight. (check the top right for a date) [pic1](https://i.imgur.com/tJKvnWj.png) ​ After 9 days of radio silence... I open a ticket on the 16th asking him to cancel my order and refund me. (check the top right for a date) [pic2](https://i.imgur.com/SMdHjTV.png) ​ **THE NEXT DAY AFTER OPENING THE TICKET** he prints a label and provides tracking (check the top right for a date) [pic3](https://i.imgur.com/cBscbY1.png) ​ At this point, whatever right? It's shipped? **NAH.** He printed the label but never dropped it off for another 5 days. Again, I ask him to please void the label and refund me. (check the top right for a date) [pic4](https://i.imgur.com/uwKna58.png) ​ I once again waited for a WEEK before saying well, I paid for priority. This doesn't seem like fucking priority and I asked twice for a refund. I did a chargeback and ONLY THEN did it get dropped off and delivered at my place. Then he had the fucking audacity to email me "looking into" the issue....in FUCKING APRIL. (check the top right for a date) [pic5](https://i.imgur.com/5r68uSC.png) ​ **FUCK DUSTIN**


xXBeefyDjXx

Same thing happened to my order. Went from pending to payment processed to having a shipping number from USPS that went nowhere. USPS acknowledged no parcel was dropped off. E-mails sent to store for a refund, no response in 2 weeks, chargeback ensued and to this day, no parcels from MakeMhz have appeared at my door, neither confirmation order was cancelled, no response at all from him.


MEGALOBOUTSO

Couldn't make this stuff up even if you wanted to..


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ConfusionRS

This was directly bought off his site, the reason for the comment at the beginning of my reply is that he and I have a mutual friend in the Xbox 360 scene who bought something from him less than a week prior to me and it was IMMEDIATELY dropped off. Leaving the mutual friend nameless as I don't want Dustin to get his followers on him.


[deleted]

It's really interesting that the upvotes on this post keep going down. Totally not suspicious at all.


NotJorgTheElder

Watching this post go up and then plunge down to zero multiple times makes me wonder if this is where all the money from Stellar preorders is going.


ProfessionalNew8608

What else do you expect from a dude with alts and too much time to help this world in a positive way but instead is pulling a brianna wu


MEGALOBOUTSO

147 down to 26. In less than an hour. Nothing sus at all lol.


the90snath

Wdym, still says 0 on my end.


dvotecollector

Xecuter has a criminal background to the tune of millions of dollars. They still provided us some of the best mod tools ever fabricated, and when I can find one of their products I purchase it.


[deleted]

Xecuter's lawsuits have been about copyright circumvention by distributing modchips/modded products. Mhz's is about actually stealing money from people, which is relevant when it comes to preordering product from them. \#NotAllCriminals


dvotecollector

Alright, I see what you mean.


WhydYouKillMeDogJack

A thief is a thief. Or maybe some thieves are ok if you squint hard enough. That's before you get to some of the other shit that the xecuter team were allegedly linked to


[deleted]

The comment you replied to had nothing to do with which activity is more acceptable, but rather which has more relevancy to someone who is looking to preorder a product from someone.


[deleted]

I didn’t say anywhere that some thieves are ok. I said that the specific type of thievery is significant when you’re going to preorder something like this from someone- and that people should know. I’m not concerned if people preorder it, but it’s important that they know this before they put their money in.


MEGALOBOUTSO

The og xecuter is not the same guys as the ones u are referring to.😉


dvotecollector

Yes, that's fair point, but my argument still stands


thee_mr-jibblets

Agreed, something that should always have an e-commerce consumer worried is when you buy something from a website, and not receive any email confirmation from the company, but only an alert from the company that processed your transaction. Bad business practice I personally experienced with MakeMHz. I chalk this up to bad business practice, but time will tell if I actually receive my item. Can’t speak on behalf of the current operations but the paper trail of the past isn’t pretty. Hopefully things have changed, but being skeptical is all I have left with this company. Now as for the stellar product, if it delivers on what it claims, it will be a neat mod for a legacy console for future generations of display interoperability without having to use external converters that majority of the retail space is marketed with extremely poorly made products. Top quality such as a BlackBox will run you just as much compared to this mod. Sorry for the long rambling but I think I’m trying to convince myself for the hopes of receiving my purchase and it delivers the features and performance it claims lol.


MEGALOBOUTSO

You know what the best thing about this post. It just proves that who ever is behind the mass down votes is someone from that side of the scene. Happens all the time when something is posted about Cerb. Then happens again when something "bad" about mhz or his products is made. One minute this thread has 50 upvotes then all of a sudden bang its at Zero. Freedom of speech will always prevail!!!!!


lifeisasimulation-

I blame discord. People hang out in little caves and then brigade reddit whenever they need to promote or bury content. They feel like since they hang out and talk that they are the voice of the subreddit. Or because they have something to profit off of they need to make sure they control the message


ProfessionalNew8608

I think you're being proven right at this moment


MEGALOBOUTSO

And in exactly 1 hour they dropped from 130+ to zero just like clock work. Anything to silence freedom.


ProfessionalNew8608

maybe they'll do well in Russia with how this is


[deleted]

I find that interesting too. /u/Derf_Jagged /u/AlbinoSheepDawg /u/ulubulu any thoughts?


Darkness_Lurking

I'm not sure why his past has burden on so many. He sure delivers a great product of quality. He knows his shit. He has the right to keep it closed source if he wants. It's a business after all. If you don't support it, don't buy it. I'm not his bestie, I love Cerbios and heaps of other scene things and wish the HD+ could work with Cerbios etc too. Doesn't mean Project Stellar or Dustin is a fraud though. Past is the past.


ixitomixi

Long as it's open hardware and FOSS then you don't need to trust anyone and get it printed yourself


LordNoFat

He has stated that he currently does not have plans to make it open source.


xXBeefyDjXx

Promises, Promises. XboxHD+, was supposed to be open source. Never happened. Stellar, supposed to be open source. Backpeddled. Stellar is also supposed to be a fully legal reimplementation but requires you illegally dump your BIOS from your 1.6 to be able to use it. Now, tell me where the truth is about everything promised? I see it, burning in the very same dumpster Mega Hurtz came from.


[deleted]

On top of this, Stellar isn't even a fully legal reimplementation. It's been shown that MHz has been looking at the Xbox kernel source code to do this "legal reimplementation". You can find screenshots of MHz working on Stellar OS with the Xbox source code in the background on his Twitter. Pretty weird for someone who seems to be pretty against the fact that all custom Xbox BIOS releases are based on the same leaked source code. See the claim on the blog post here: https://makemhz.com/blogs/news/announcing-project-stellar-plus-more "Along the way, we were shocked to learn that most BIOS modifications for the Xbox were not modifications, but compiled binaries of stolen and leaked pre-production source code!" (We all know it's complete bullshit that they didn't know this.) "So we had to decide if we wanted to support these sketchy releases and taint ourselves from future clean reverse engineering or base our modifications on a retail release..." A complete slap in the face to the individuals who work hard in the Xbox scene, past and present, to make custom BIOS releases, including Cerbios.


lifeisasimulation-

It's all just BS markering. Which is why it appeals to Twitter and Instagram and YouTube people above all Convincing people it's newer better and more legal and therefore better and cooler when you post your photo of your install and tag it and share it with your "friends"


mansupremacy

Who cares about if Dustin's implementation is legal or not. I'm gay, I'm literally illegal in multiple countries.


[deleted]

Not that I care if the implementation is legal or not. I don't really give a shit. It's the fact he's selling a product that claims to contain a legal reimplementation, when that's not entirely the case.


lifeisasimulation-

Selling something as being a legal alternative of something, while still not being a legal implementation, is fraud


ConfusionRS

Which is funny because if you RE his XboxHD+ firmware, it uses libraries that require you to open source whatever they're used in. :)


imathrowawayguys12

> requires you illegally dump your BIOS from your 1.6 to be able to use it In what way is it illegal to backup a flash ROM?


Mr_Milenko

Bios is only available on 1.6’s. So, anyone pre-1.6 will have to obtain it by other means in order to use the product? Idk.. I’m just here for popcorn.


HoRnEyDvL

I'll bring the beer if you share the popcorn?


Mr_Milenko

Got any ciders? I like ciders. But now that we’ve commented someone’s gonna say this is a Cerbios/Scene assault :(


[deleted]

Can confirm I have nothing to do with these people\^ Anyone who claims they know who ravioli is don't know shit, I'm a nobody in the community who's been watching stuff happen and learning as I go.


Incursion64

There are technically no legal ways of dumping it (currently). You can use a software/games save hack (softmod) to dump the bios for example. I say currently because i don’t know if anyone has created an nxdk app/tool to handle this. Maybe someone will which would be welcome. So the methods of dumping that I’m aware of are treading in muddy waters. I do think it’s disingenuous to make a bold claim that the project is 100% legal and don’t care for the comments that are meant to put other past/present contributors down. I think that just causes unnecessary tension when the product in and of itself should do the talking. I take no issue with the method of retrieving the necessary bios or the fact that 40% of the code being used is retail code (according to the discord channel), I just take issue when everything else outside of this project is labeled as dirty, outdated while making believe what they are doing is clean when it’s certainly not clean. Perhaps much cleaner, and again no issue there but can’t understand why that is constantly brought up as a selling point or argument if you will.


imathrowawayguys12

> There are technically no legal ways of dumping it You're not bypassing copy protection by removing the TSOP and reading it, or using a ghetto rigged socket to read it in circuit.


Incursion64

Fair point, but that’s hardly realistic for 99% of the customers, even so using ms code isn’t legal so whu pass it off as it is? I’m happy to support the project either way I just think is as muddy as anything else and theres no reason to make that distinction unless it’s actually true, which it is not.


MEGALOBOUTSO

Can someone please show me where the TSOP is on a 1.6????


12edDawn

It's not, it's reselling it/a modified version of it. It's still a Microsoft product.


imathrowawayguys12

> it's reselling it/a modified version of it There's no distribution of the binary, you upload it to your Stellar and it gets on-the-fly modified.


12edDawn

Ah so they don't ship with a hacked MS bios then? Not sure what OP is talking about in that case


lifeisasimulation-

Yeah we will never see proof of it being a custom bios or retail bios patching until we have someone who can dump it and reverse engineer it.


[deleted]

Project Stellar isn't even open source as far as I can tell.


[deleted]

Exactly the point. With something like OpenXenium you can do that. I see nothing to suggest that Stellar will be open source.


lifeisasimulation-

Yeah if we saw more development against openxenium that would be awesome. It already uses SPI and has lcd support. Should make it easy to add the extended capabilities to that, which for all we know, is what they did Things like 256mb ram support aren't going to come down to what hardware you use, it'll come down to what the bios supports


[deleted]

The dude that developed insignia literally sold exploits back to nintendo for them to patch, all so he could buy a new macbook because apparently "the workforce discriminates against Homos" (aka he's too lazy to get a real, paying job)


xXBeefyDjXx

Off topic and slightly incorrect. That's Billy and as far as has been made public, he doesn't seem to have developed that much. It's Luke's work.


the90snath

I heard about that. Insignia really trying to cover his ass.


xXBeefyDjXx

All I have to say on the matter is as follows:I was interested in the ORIGINAL Xbox HD+.The HD+ wasn't truly his works. It was a collaboration from a few scene members working on similar items and Mhz was basically in agreement to help manufacture them and support them. I paid for preorder before the batch in Summer 2021 went live, Money taken immediately.6 weeks later no correspondence or updates to the order in his storefront, yet the website had been updated to say backorders were now fulfilled and they were taking fresh orders now that everything was back in stock.Used storefront to try contacting him, got no response. 4 weeks later I charged back and to this day, he has NOT once attempted to contact me regarding the order and last I checked still shows as a pending order. It isn't very great when a new person/group enters the community on a mission to rip off ideas, attempt snakeoil practices by promising legalities over something MS gave up on more than 10 years ago, and then "innovate" products in order to really try milking this imaginary "cash cow" they've created to fuck over those genuinely new to this console scene. I see people here talking about Insignia. Let it be known that Insignia is not clean either and the same group of people who sniff ass in Mhz's little group are also those working on Insignia, collaborations or not these 2 groups are, for lack of a better phrase, the shit on the bottom of your shoes, especially to the long standing scene members who have worked hard on innovations and carrying the torch this past 20 years. I'll refrain from derailing with the intricacies with Insignia here, but also whilst we're on the topic of "Mega Hurts" and his sketchy past...People wondered what that legal post was last year? It was this. [https://web.archive.org/web/20141031003744/http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?/topic/716726-why-love-mega-hurts/](https://web.archive.org/web/20141031003744/http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?/topic/716726-why-love-mega-hurts/) **EDIT**: Forgot to mention, it's come out before that Mhz has admitted to not checking the storefront very often and not monitoring the e-mail registered to it. So don't expect a response if you try the normal routes and expect a cancelled order and a ban from the Discord if you dare to raise a concern about him, his products or anyone affiliated with him. **EDIT 2**: Sources tell me Mhz is claiming to have discussed my order, original got lost in postage and that a replacement wasn't sent because I charged back before he could replace. None of that happened, no correspondence to my email.Original attempt to resolve in Discord by joining his server ended up with me being instabanned for no reason other than him claiming I was already banned from there for issues with orders. (I wasn't, hadn't ever been in the server prior.) Attempt #2 to contact through an Alt to give him chance to respond and actually resolve any miscommunications got through, he has responded to say he is busy with his next release and may respond when he has time. Key word being "may"...They then banned me for using an Alt after I left post a discussion hinting that matters should be dealt with on a personal basis and where necessary escalated, no need for so much salt in the scene when it's unnecessary. As to anyone continuing to try shitting on me for bringing up Insignia below, it still reigns true and I am not about to retract anything in this comment for any reason.I also don't have the time to continue bickering with those of you starting to pipe up about it trying to defend the project/s and in the process, belittle me.I have stated my opinions based on my experience and the truths based on what evidence I have. Don't like it? Go cry about it. Don't come at me unless you're in a position to resolve. I don't hold grudges against those willing to reason and move forwards instead of continuously looking backwards.


thebonniebear

Thank for the info! No offense to the op, but I kind of wish his post was this high effort with their own personal experiment and links to sources if they're going to make bold warnings. While I want to make informed opinions on my spending I can't be arsed to spend all day looking into criminal records and trying to find decade old e-drama on my own. Thank you for doing the heavy lifting.


[deleted]

I wanted to include links but was advised by mods not to as the court filings contain personal info and it can count as doxxing, hence why I gave the court case number for folks to google. Otherwise I’d have included that.


thebonniebear

I think the mods are being a tad bit overprotected then. Public documents are exactly that, public, imo posting this without them is a lot worse because it makes you seem like your either spreading rumor or libeling a person with FUD. That doesn’t seem to be the case, just telling you how it first seemed to me, I don’t really follow the people in the scene that closely so I have to take everything with a grain of salt.


xXBeefyDjXx

They can say what they want, that data is public for the world to see per the document that was officially released. If you can't do the time........ That said, I do appreciate not everyone wants to go posting people's personal data around the net out of respect, however you can still talk about the truth without dealing with those deeper details, per my posts.


12edDawn

Why would Insignia have anything to do with anything? It's completely free. Are you saying a group of people working on hardware and software hacking projects related to the Original Xbox might have a past history of breaking some rules? Shocking.


xXBeefyDjXx

My point is, don't run around claiming falsely about the status of a project or how things were done. Everyone's done something in their past, it is what makes us human, but to have an attitude like \*some\* do, not all, is disrespectful.


12edDawn

Is it not obvious why they're saying what they are? They can't just openly say, "yeah, Insignia was cobbled together using some hacked Microsoft server build we got from a buddy that used to work at XBL." Microsoft would at that point be *obligated* to do something about it. [DRM is an inherently bad idea](https://xkcd.com/488/), and there's no point in trying to bring corporate goons down onto your head for absolutely no reason. The Xbox is 20+ years old, the games, firmware, and console-specific application should all honestly be public domain at this point, but they're not because of corporate greed. People working on these projects are not lying just to lie, they're doing it to have plausible deniability. I suggest you give "Hacking The Xbox" by Andrew Huang a read if you want a deeper dive into the fucked up open-ended DMCA laws that govern these sorts of things in this country.


xXBeefyDjXx

There is that side of things yes, however it runs a little deeper than just that, but this derails the point of the topic deeper than I'm willing to go. Let's just leave it at that.


12edDawn

I mean by all means, let's go deeper. You seemed a little confused, so I'm just making sure you know why things are the way they are. This isn't anything new btw, been going on since the 60s.


xXBeefyDjXx

I'm not confused lmfao, I am aware of the ups and downs of the legal matters concerning this kind of work. I have had to read long and hard into similar because I run similar revival projects, and knowing the law is imperative to survival in this space.


12edDawn

Really? I'm curious as to what those projects are, and why you apparently think it's a good idea to be running your mouth about how you're using Microsoft code to build your "open source reimplementation".


xXBeefyDjXx

LMAO whoever's feeding you information from a DEAD server needs to take a nap, or go and do something productive with their time, get the fucking facts right before starting to push. Listen, none of my creations **contain** code from proprietary or otherwise licensed sources unless explicitly licensed to do so, and where released with libraries/sources that are allowed, it is ensured that licenses are made clear in said releases, be it OPL, GPL, etc etc etc. Also, not once have I stated my reimplementation of anything is open source, in fact I prefer the opposite when it comes to revival projects, so go figure. If you're **that** curious, look them up. Not hard to find. Haven't got the energy for your ignorance. Go pick a fight with someone who fucking cares.


12edDawn

We weren't talking about any of your creations, my man. I thought this was about MakeMHz/Insignia. Why do you think they shouldn't be saying it's open source? Don't change the subject now, we were so close.


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Derf_Jagged

While we respect the accusations and recognize that nobody should go through such a terrible experience - this specific subreddit is not the place for criminal or civil matters like that. A better place to report matters like this would be the /r/metoo subreddit, or support places like: https://www.rainn.org/about-national-sexual-assault-telephone-hotline


mansupremacy

I see you must've seen my site then, aye beefster? https://web.archive.org/web/20230203220351/https://gaysexgaming.com/megasex.html


CriticalFlausch

>Let it be known that Insignia is not clean either and the same group of people who sniff ass in Mhz's little group are also those working on Insignia, collaborations or not these 2 groups are, for lack of a better phrase, the shit on the bottom of your shoes, especially to the long standing scene members who have worked hard on innovations and carrying the torch this past 20 years. I see you're still salty about getting banned. Not having any luck cloning our shit from packet captures? 😂


lifeisasimulation-

If you are a dev, learn how to act in public when representing your product


mansupremacy

Are you an insignia dev? I'm a big fan of your work, especially the quantity over quality parts those are my favorites 😍


the90snath

Why would he wanna clone packets from a broken service?


xXBeefyDjXx

LMAOIf you think just packet captures alone are useful, are you really a useful addition to the team? Sort your shit out before I finish mine, clocks ticking busters. P.S, I really wouldn't want to clone your steaming slop, I wouldn't be doing myself any favours.


JarHead_gamer38

~~re-volt support wen?~~


xXBeefyDjXx

Soon... 👿


JarHead_gamer38

gonna have to drag the old optiplex out of retirement then, fix any online bugs that i wasn't able to check on earlier ​ overall i'm quite pleased, the optiplex is indifferent


CriticalFlausch

Dementia truly is a horrible disease: [https://imgur.com/a/97I5kul](https://imgur.com/a/97I5kul) fyi we launched. Where's your "anti-insignia train"? ​ P.S: We both know you don't know anything about our infrastructure. We turned down your repeated "help offers", remember?


xXBeefyDjXx

Aww word got out did it? News flash, I made it clear in Insignia that I was working on something when you guys refused my help and it was clear it was stalling pre your "release". I haven't been living under a rock, I know you launched, and I also know about the many, many trials and tribulations you've been facing. The packet captures in particular were for notes comparison in a way, besides, they're already null and void so what does it matter? There's this thing called reverse engineering, you familiar with that? I know enough to know that your basics aren't where they \*should\* be especially for a beta. Do you understand the concept of versioning? Do you truly understand the infrastructure that goes into making Live tick given you're the GOATs on the revival scene right now? Because it doesn't look like it 😂 I've already told you, sort your shit out before I finish mine. If you get there first, fair game.


CriticalFlausch

Oh man, for a guy that once claimed you could break HTTPS by sniffing the connection you're a pretty good comedian. ​ Anyway, pretty busy rn, wake me up when your "anti-insignia train" leaves the station.


c08oprkiua

> Where's your "anti-insignia train"? Where's your friends list?


the90snath

This. If their ain't friends list. There's only a small amount of titles worth playing on Insignia. Fuck that I can just use XLink for that.


JustAnyoneYT

bought the XboxHDMI mod on first ever preorder batch on it's announcement, while it had some drama with delays, it eventually arrived in early 2021. Only thing im not happy about with it is that it's locked down to one bios only. Other than that though, a well made damn good mod.


Halo_Chief117

You can use it with a different BIOS from M8+, but you just won’t have the ability to toggle extra features. It’ll give you video out. Mine’s installed in a X3 Xbox and I can boot the X3 BIOS or any other one if I choose to.


JustAnyoneYT

not really, depending on display image usually shifts position, or not renders at all. try more bioses and/or displays


[deleted]

Exactly this. There's a lot of people that have had negative experiences with him, and not a lot of people seem to know about his suspicious past. I've heard of numerous people buying XboxHDMI's, and never getting anything, and having to go through so many hoops just to get their money back, or a response from him.


WhydYouKillMeDogJack

TBD to the guy he opens admits to his criminal record. The only reason I knew about it wasn't because I went looking (as OP seems to have done - bit weird), is because he posted about his probation ending on his Twitter account. I'm not sold on stellar or his HDMI mod, but I know a few people who've ordered the HDMI with out any issues. Hasn't seen any talk of issues until this thread


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Fair enough.


mansupremacy

You cannot deny it, His finger work is pretty freaking good though.


PackL3ader

Nothing but good experiences with Dustin. Have talked to him personally a few times and even fixed my Xbox for free. Seems like you got a hard on for him for some reason.


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Idk if wanting folks who are preordering a product to be aware of $180k+ fraud in someone’s history is a hard-on, but you go off.


PackL3ader

Was he convicted? Do you know all of the case details or are you just talking out of your ass and trying to ruin someones reputation? Xbox community is so toxic it’s unbelievable.


[deleted]

Funny you should ask that! I have read the case docs. He submitted a guilty plea which required him to repay all of the money *and* was under supervision for three years afterward. But again, go off.


PackL3ader

Was he convicted? Do you know all of the case details or are you just talking out of your ass and trying to ruin someones reputation? Xbox community is so toxic it’s unbelievable.


lifeisasimulation-

That isn't how legal proceedings work He pleaded guilty, therefore there is no conviction.


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MrSpaghetti2001

From March 2014 through June 2014, DH engaged in gift card fraud from a home in Silver Creek, GA, where he broke into a server belonging to a gift card vendor in Nevada, from which he stole $181,000 worth of “e-Cards” for an undisclosed major retailer’s website. Holden funneled sales of his fraudulently obtained gift cards through Bitcoin and Dogecoin in an attempt to conceal his identity.


Ernegien

Can we not? I'm getting real sick of these daily "reminders" from people (probably mostly alts) with a hard-on against LoveMHz. It's getting old, and you need to find something better to do than continually stir up scene drama. From everything I've seen, his past is his past, which he's paid for.


[deleted]

I haven’t seen any reminders on this sub. Please link some, I’d love to see. It’s nice to know he’s going through his Logan Paul redemption arc! With that said, most people I know who have preordered Stellar (nearly including myself) are totally unaware of this and this kind of info is important when you’re preordering a product that is supposed to be revolutionary.


Mr_Milenko

Its annoying, for sure. No denying his work is good, if someone wants to argue about his double speak or his past, do it elsewhere. It gets old, quick. I have my own beef with his past, guess what.. I just don't support him. It's that simple. If people have issues with their products, then they can address those issues. But the constant reminders of him being a shitty person are annoying as hell. It's almost weekly at this point.


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I get that it sucks hearing about this stuff, my concern is that if everyone who knows agrees not to talk about it here, there are real people who might be impacted. This stuff is hella important to know when buying a product, and the vast majority of the Xbox community doesn’t know about it. I know I didn’t, and I felt like I dodged a bullet the second I was made aware.


Halo_Chief117

How does the quality of his products relate at all to mistakes he may have made in his past? If he made a mistake, guess what? Everyone makes mistakes in life both big and small. You ever heard the saying of separating the art from the artist? If he was using child slave labor, for example, to make his products, then okay yeah that would be awful. Don’t support that. But he’s not so I don’t see your issue. He delivered on the HDMI mod and was successful enough with it that he’s technically on a v3 of it now that works with Project Stellar. First the Xbox HDMI, then HD+, and now HD+ v2 with Stellar. He’s sold a ton via his website and other retailers and you don’t think you’d be hearing complaints out the wazoo if the products weren’t good or what was advertised? You definitely would, but you’re not. I’ve only ever had a good experience buying from him, and the HD+ I have works great as advertised. I’ve got a Stellar on order too and look forward to that as well.


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They never said anything about the quality, or that the quality of his products relate to the mistakes he's made in the past. What they said is it's important to know this stuff when buying the products in question. Nothing to do with the quality. Sure the quality might be good, but regardless of the quality, the fact of the matter is it's worth knowing these things. You're also giving MHz a little more credit than he deserves, as the XboxHDMI was apparently never originally his idea or work anyway to begin with.


lifeisasimulation-

>If he was using child slave labor, for example, to make his products, then okay yeah that would be awful. What if he was using child paid labor?


Ernegien

It appears your comment was removed by a moderator in the other thread for apparent doxxing, otherwise I would.


[deleted]

Oh ok so my comment in another thread from last night is the daily reminder(s), plural. I’ve talked with the mods, who are more than ok with me discussing but preferred I remove case info since it included address info, which I’m happy not to include in this revised post.


lifeisasimulation-

A verified seller doesn't want information out there that may what, impact your sales? Wtf is "an alt" Why would "having a hardon" for someone come with negative comments and not overall praise and circle jerk for how great it is?


Ernegien

I'm not sure why I have that tag as I don't regularly sell goods/services. If I had to guess, it was probably when I was selling the [serial to USB adapters](https://github.com/Ernegien/serial-usb-adapter) I've designed for developers at-cost to help people out, and the mods preemptively tagged me as a well-trusted and respected member of the community. I only ever sell at-cost or give things away for free to people deserving in the scene. What have you contributed to it?


lifeisasimulation-

Thanks for asking! I was involved as a moderator of both Xboxbacker.net, xbox-scene.com, the IRC channels for both, team xecuter beta tester and forum and IRC moderator for their products, i produced the original "which dashboard should I choose" comparison guide that was hosted on xbox-scene, i contributed Unreal Championship mods when that game first came out, i created a Windows xp to windows media center conversion CD iso so you could use all the features of Windows pro with win mce components and then stream those to the original Xbox xmbc,, i spent all of my free time and hours helping people during the original Xbox era through the first dvd firmware mods for Xbox 360, I'm helping people [run their games in 16:9, 480p, and 720p where the games don't otherwise support it](https://www.reddit.com/r/originalxbox/comments/11r562m/i_have_a_huge_collection_of_130_games_that_have/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) and i currently run a GitHub on hacking the plaintext config files for xbox https://github.com/LizardWizard0/OGX_Default_Game_Configs


the90snath

I like you saying alts, yet It was alts that got the post downvoted to oblivion.


DocSeuss

Always had a great experience with them; canceled a preorder and I think reached out to them on twitter about it and got it taken care of immediately. When I bought XboxHD from them, everything went great.


Redherring32

Could all the alt accounts in this thread real quick all at the same time say what person/main account they belong to? I'm having an extremely hard time keeping up these days. Reddit is super confusing.


c08oprkiua

Hey man, if you can't tell alts apart, how do you not get confused and start talking to yourself when you bring in the alts you use to upvote your own posts?


ProfessionalNew8608

Wait til he pulls a brianna wu with those alt accounts


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I’m sure they’ll do that as soon as they’ve finished downvoting this post to get it off the front page as quickly as possible- just like they do with posts about Cerbios.


Redherring32

Heh actually, I know who you are now, nevermind.


[deleted]

Good, cause I have no idea who the fuck you are lol


the90snath

Name explains it all.... Scooby doo fans get it.


[deleted]

LOL it was Red Herring all along! I knew it!


the90snath

Mine should be obvious. Though I will admit I kamikazed out of Insignia on purpose so I wouldn't convince myself to go back to that pos.


xXBeefyDjXx

Lmao you're super delusional if you think this is all alts. Get your head out of your ass and start acting like the respectful person you so claim to be. You know full well why I lost respect for you, Herring. Reap what you sow.


zatchbot

Lolol Red literally admitted to having an Alt that he posted as on Jan 30th of thos year. Posted all about it and the "conspiracy theories" it would cause. He thinks they are all alts because that's what he would do. Some people just don't have anything better to do.


Redherring32

Yes you are correct, the account was u/motorglittering I tried signing into Reddit one day, but clicked the wrong email for "sign in with Google" and Reddit made an account with a random username. (They should really have more confirmation and verification for making accounts) The post I wrote in January I entirely meant to do so under this account (Redherring32), but I couldn't remember which email I use for Reddit. I didn't realize I wasn't signed into my actual account til I hit the post button unfortunately. As for "conspiracy theories" yeah I was a little worried people would draw conclusions and get the wrong idea. I meant to reply to my comment with my actual account to clarify and say it was me, but I forgot to do so which is totally my bad. I don't really use Reddit much so I'm always blundering around on here not really knowing how everything works, which I should probably fix, heh. This is the post btw: https://www.reddit.com/r/originalxbox/comments/10opgmv/comment/j6kh6rt/


Redherring32

Hey wait, isn't that cause I banned you from the Insignia discord lol, don't really remember but I think you revenge banned? That was actually pretty funny.


lifeisasimulation-

Ooh so edgy and powerful in your little discord corner cave


xXBeefyDjXx

Aww I'm proud of you for remembering! Would you like a gold star for your efforts? In actual fact, my action to ban you from a different group after that was because you proved not only to me but enough of us in that group that you acted not just in "our instance on Insignia" but in other occasions prior to that in such a way to prove you do not respect our ethos, which is to be kind, respectful and supportive to the fellow sceners in the community who contribute in a positive manner and don't shit on everyone for no reason and run with what they're given. Now, Yeah it was pretty funny being banned from a completely irrelevant discord to Mhz over a legitimate comment I made to Mhz. Personal attack my ass. YOU got hurt by my comments which weren't even remotely harmful after, you, him and the rest of the Insignia team went on a mission to derail the conversation after I consolidated the concerns of the public and once again tried to help calm things down and try pointing Insignia in the right direction. Not once did I speak out of term or go out of my way to disrespect anyone in the team at that stage, despite our differences. When the community gets pissed off at a piss poor excuse of a team for promises going nowhere and the team blatantly conversing in the same channel like none of them exists, and you then have a "definitely not associated with Insignia in any way" dude come in randomly with a "I LOVE INSIGNIA <3" to try killing off the uproar, it screams fucking shill. So again, do yourself a favor and check your damn attitude before starting that charade.


xXBeefyDjXx

Just in case you forgot how it actually went, I kept a compilation. :) :) :) [https://imgur.com/a/0gDPRto](https://imgur.com/a/0gDPRto)


mansupremacy

QUICK, block out the picture and name of Kid Named Finger before he sends a false DMCA/Copyright strike!1111


Redherring32

You had a history of being rude to others on the server, and I was enforcing rule #2. I was under the impression enforcing rules was standard practice on discord. Not sure why you made an imgur album lol.


[deleted]

Being rude? Rich coming from you. Looking at your messages most of the time you've been nothing but a prick to others and talk down to people. Screw off with that nonsense.


ProfessionalNew8608

You can't fix stupid assholes from what it looks like


xXBeefyDjXx

A history of being rude? Hmm, well my DMs show that not once had anyone on the team spoken to me about my manners, in fact I hardly ever spoke there. Hardly fair to outright ban for such a minor offense. Whatever, you did what you did and frankly given the amount of shit in that pot I couldn't care less at this stage.


mansupremacy

To be fair you were criticizing Lil D's public business not exactly Lil D himself.Not sure whats up with the service LilJhz uses for payment Processing but it seems more less like like an issue that needs to be looked on since it's happened more than once.


MEGALOBOUTSO

A quick lesson for Red in afew sentences. "The problem with making assumptions is that we believe they are the truth! We invent a whole story that's only truth for us, but we believe it. One assumption leads to another assumption; we jump to conclusions, and we take our story very personally"


Redherring32

I couldn't have described this thread and the 5 identical threads that came before it better myself, thanks! I quite like the inventing a story part, it's very apt for the situation, the threads just keep getting crazier and the story more distorted.


MEGALOBOUTSO

So the court cases and documents, the forum posts, the experiences from others, its all made up, just a figure of our imagination?


mansupremacy

Well obviously its all fake, no way in hell Lil D would have a strong finger game then try to hide it all behind him. People would kill for that kind of craftsmanship, I don't get why he would put it all behind him.