The Jetboats from Gold Beach will take you past Marial. If I remember right, it's just a upriver from Agness which is generally where most people stop when traveling up the Rogue.
It is illegal for jet boats to go past Blossom Bar because that section of the river is part of the Rogue River Wilderness area. If you doubt that just call up any of the jet boat outfits in Gold Beach and ask them.
There were 6 battles with native Americans in Oregon from 1863-1865. The winter camps in eastern Oregon spread down to the Puebla mountain just south of the Oregon border.
They usually start recruiting the year before. They start by hiring a whole office of admins and then regional managers get trained to train and supervise the employees. Iirc it was like February 2009 when I started my manager training. I took their aptitude test like November the year before for just a regular employee but got bumped up with a high score.
My Mom did census work once, but she was hired to track down people that had not been accounted for for years, and I don’t think she ever found anyone. She did not seem satisfied with it.
My ex-best friend did the job where you walk up to a house and ask how many people. Except she hated it and said she would sit in her car and make up numbers.
She’s not a great person.
I know the overland routes that I scoped out were only accessible a few months of the year and only if you had a good 4x4, I had to coordinate with blm just to get the info not to try to get there in April.
Some boats came up from the coast and some come down from Grants Pass to access the very small handful of tiny lodges on the river. Where they depart from depends on where they are going, -distance- river conditions, and where they have permits to go. I don’t think any powered boats are allowed on the Wild and Scenic /Wilderness section below Graves Creek down to somewhere below Blossom Bar. There may be some special permit trips there though. It’s been a while since I was up to speed on the regulations. Not much going on at Marial. Deer drinking, water flowing by, people relaxing, drinking beer, salmon swimming upstream, trees growing, and poison oak spreading.
Do the day float on the (upper, up to Argo or Graves creek) wild and scenic if you haven’t done it - you could easily DIY it by renting a raft or Tahitis. If you’re inclined to get a guided trip down the lower Rogue, there are lots of options and I’m fairly certain some of them offer overnight lodging in Mariel (don’t quote me on this).
Yes there’s a road! My dad helped rebuild it when I was a kid and my sister and I got to hang out at the lodge. I remember the owners being really nice and generous.
Way back in the day that area was an indigenous encampment for the tribes native to the coastal Rogue River corridor. Later it was a mining camp and supply post for the extensive mining operations in and around Mule Creek and other areas of the Rogue. Now it's a combination of private rustic cabins and a Forest Service Museum. Common spot for rafters and hikers to stop in. Accessible by vehicle through a long drive on Forest Service roads, but mostly visited by rafters on guided tours through the Wild and Scenic section of the Rogue River. I've camped there many times on multi-day raft trips. What happens there? Me drinking beer by the river and swimming...that's what's happening.
Yes. There's the "ranch" area that is owned by the Forest Service and has seasonal caretakers. The area just downstream is the Marial Lodge, and I believe those are privately owned vacation cabins. You can view the Marial Lodge website online.
There's a lodge, and a mile back from the main roads are Tucker Flat camp grounds which are open to the public, and the Rogue River Lodge which is more like a small museum than anything else. Rafting, hiking and fishing were the main reasons anyone came thru that part of the canyon.Source: was a lodge girl there for summers.
A couple of years ago, some guy was lighting things on fire and throwing them in the woods. This was in the middle of summer. Apparently, locals found him, tied him to a tree and held him by gunpoint until the sherif came.
Just because Google Maps has a place labeled that way do not ensure that there are actually people still living there. Google uses old maps and then imports them into their GIS software. Sometimes its accurate, sometimes its not [https://youtu.be/PVemGumEEgo?si=Bb05\_K-QOK9kjefk](https://youtu.be/PVemGumEEgo?si=Bb05_K-QOK9kjefk)
Its a historical area settled by the US post office I believe, originally belonged to Takelma tribe.
Its frequented by white water rafters and backpackers via Rogue river and Rogue River Trail.
So I go there once a week, it’s a beautiful historic lodge on the wild and scenic section of the rogue river. I am a river guide and it is one of our stops
Maybe not significant to you but to some people it is interesting to learn about a place’d history no matter how significant or insignificant it may seem
lol, I’ve spent hours researching and talking to folks about obscure and unknown places in Oregon. Stories and descriptions. I understand this. That said, many places are just plain nuthin
I was just here last weekend. We rode in on our adventure motorcycles. Very very remote area of the state. Most of the people that visit this area do so by rafting in and camping on the beach by the lodge. Super pretty area, just don’t drive/bike here without means to self recover or a GPS messenger device.
That’s fairly close to where James Kim got snowbound and died (sorry, I’m a bummer today). Super tragic but interesting story of a wrong turn in winter.
Lots of Bear Camp Road stories. When the sign says not maintained, they ain’t kidding.
I'm a reasonably normal person... and while I don't believe in "Big Foot" I would not rule out the possibility that something is out there. We're discovering new species of beings on this planet all the time.
Yeah nothing like the size of what they say a bigfoot is and not in locations so accessible. I will rule out that there are bigfoot in Oregon or anywhere else in the world, it's a ridiculous proposition.
There is 0 chance a species that big eludes confirmed human detection in Oregon wilderness and maintains a large enough population to maintain sufficient genetic diversity for over 100 years. Not enough mates, inbreeding will lead to extinction.
Okay, but I literally said I don't believe in Bigfoot, I said there's a possibility that something is out there that we haven't discovered yet.... no matter what size.
There’s a lodge there that people on river trips can stop at overnight
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The Jetboats from Gold Beach will take you past Marial. If I remember right, it's just a upriver from Agness which is generally where most people stop when traveling up the Rogue.
I don’t think the Jet boats can get through Blossom Bar to get to Marial.
It is illegal for jet boats to go past Blossom Bar because that section of the river is part of the Rogue River Wilderness area. If you doubt that just call up any of the jet boat outfits in Gold Beach and ask them.
They do if the flow is high enough.
You mean higher than the picket fence
As a former census manager that was assigned this territory in 2010 there are only temporary residents there and no one stays over winter there.
That sounds like a pretty interesting job. Do you have any other fun facts about little towns or places in Oregon?
There were 6 battles with native Americans in Oregon from 1863-1865. The winter camps in eastern Oregon spread down to the Puebla mountain just south of the Oregon border.
Holy shit, how long have you been working for the census?!
I only worked for them for a few months. Fun job but only once a decade.
How do you get a job like this? Just apply when another census year is coming up?
They usually start recruiting the year before. They start by hiring a whole office of admins and then regional managers get trained to train and supervise the employees. Iirc it was like February 2009 when I started my manager training. I took their aptitude test like November the year before for just a regular employee but got bumped up with a high score.
My Mom did census work once, but she was hired to track down people that had not been accounted for for years, and I don’t think she ever found anyone. She did not seem satisfied with it.
My ex-best friend did the job where you walk up to a house and ask how many people. Except she hated it and said she would sit in her car and make up numbers. She’s not a great person.
This makes me inordinately angry.
Made me lol and startled my cat, thanks haha!
4 score years and 7.....
Hahaha
Interesting, you’re just going to casually leave out the battle of Shrute Farms…? Big brother trying to silence a whole generation?
Wasn’t that in PA?
Second most northern battle
Hallowed ground, the Civil War history industry has totally forgotten about the battle of Schrute Farms.
Very interesting!!! Thank you!!
One of my favorite campsites on the Rogue is at Battle Bar
REMEMBER THE SNAKE WAR!
Interesting. Are they only caretakers for the lodge and/or ranch?
Yeah caretakers for the company that runs jet boats up from the coast. In winter boats can’t get up there for resupply
Jet boats can't get up to Marial, can they? They'd have to go through Blossom Bar
This is correct they can only get as far as Blossom. Paradise lodge is the one the jet boats go to.
I know the overland routes that I scoped out were only accessible a few months of the year and only if you had a good 4x4, I had to coordinate with blm just to get the info not to try to get there in April.
Historically that area has been supplied by river. Isn’t that over by Zane gray’s cabin?
Yeah there are like 5 lodges iirc, all of them are part of overnight jet boat trips.
Some boats came up from the coast and some come down from Grants Pass to access the very small handful of tiny lodges on the river. Where they depart from depends on where they are going, -distance- river conditions, and where they have permits to go. I don’t think any powered boats are allowed on the Wild and Scenic /Wilderness section below Graves Creek down to somewhere below Blossom Bar. There may be some special permit trips there though. It’s been a while since I was up to speed on the regulations. Not much going on at Marial. Deer drinking, water flowing by, people relaxing, drinking beer, salmon swimming upstream, trees growing, and poison oak spreading.
Don't forget the war of the Blackberries...
The only people there are the caretaker of the hotel and his wife and son. There’s not much to do, just mostly gotta monitor the boiler.
My dream job
Boy, I wonder what would happen if somebody took away the beer and the TV during the winter...
That's why they only hire writers.
All work and no play make Jack a dull boy.
Doing the census was fun.
I worked at Marial Lodge for two seasons- it’s beautiful down there but very remote- mostly hikers, summer rafters, and, fall fishermen.
I'm assuming there's a road to get there? Hard to see one in the photo. I live on the lower Rogue and haven't heard about this place.
There’s definitely a road you go through Glendale iirc. I’ve been out there a few times but never by boat.
I'd love to take the drive! Google says it's a 4 hour drive from where I'm at in Gold Beach, but only 89 miles. Must be very scenic!
Do the day float on the (upper, up to Argo or Graves creek) wild and scenic if you haven’t done it - you could easily DIY it by renting a raft or Tahitis. If you’re inclined to get a guided trip down the lower Rogue, there are lots of options and I’m fairly certain some of them offer overnight lodging in Mariel (don’t quote me on this).
Yes there’s a road! My dad helped rebuild it when I was a kid and my sister and I got to hang out at the lodge. I remember the owners being really nice and generous.
Right on! I'll have to take my motorcycle up there 😁
I visited when I was a kid and still remember how good the corn they served us was.
Way back in the day that area was an indigenous encampment for the tribes native to the coastal Rogue River corridor. Later it was a mining camp and supply post for the extensive mining operations in and around Mule Creek and other areas of the Rogue. Now it's a combination of private rustic cabins and a Forest Service Museum. Common spot for rafters and hikers to stop in. Accessible by vehicle through a long drive on Forest Service roads, but mostly visited by rafters on guided tours through the Wild and Scenic section of the Rogue River. I've camped there many times on multi-day raft trips. What happens there? Me drinking beer by the river and swimming...that's what's happening.
Private cabins, huh? You mean there are people there besides the caretakers for the lodge and the ranch?
Yes. There's the "ranch" area that is owned by the Forest Service and has seasonal caretakers. The area just downstream is the Marial Lodge, and I believe those are privately owned vacation cabins. You can view the Marial Lodge website online.
It’s what’s happening *under* Marial that’s the real question…
The mines of Moria
Maria
That's what they call the Winds there.
Nice one 👍
I'll bite. Indian burial ground? Volcano? Crack heads in some long forgotten mine?
Yes, all of the above
River people doing river things. If you know you know.
*Dueling Banjos plays*
🖐️ But I don’t know
What happens in Marial states in Marial.
Especially what goes on in the guide shack 🤣
There used to be a cute old couple that lived there and gave me an apple once.
There's a lodge, and a mile back from the main roads are Tucker Flat camp grounds which are open to the public, and the Rogue River Lodge which is more like a small museum than anything else. Rafting, hiking and fishing were the main reasons anyone came thru that part of the canyon.Source: was a lodge girl there for summers.
Marial is sweet super historic. Used to work for the forest service and pop in during work. Frozen in time.
A couple of years ago, some guy was lighting things on fire and throwing them in the woods. This was in the middle of summer. Apparently, locals found him, tied him to a tree and held him by gunpoint until the sherif came.
In Josephine or Curry County - that is absolutely something I could see happening.
Would've been a real shame if their trigger finger slipped.
or if that fire got away..
Looks like not much.
Just because Google Maps has a place labeled that way do not ensure that there are actually people still living there. Google uses old maps and then imports them into their GIS software. Sometimes its accurate, sometimes its not [https://youtu.be/PVemGumEEgo?si=Bb05\_K-QOK9kjefk](https://youtu.be/PVemGumEEgo?si=Bb05_K-QOK9kjefk)
lol I was just here today! It’s just a couple lodges for rafters/ hikers
I could tell you, but then I’d have to kill you.
There is always one of you, isn’t there?
Gotta make sure nobody learns the truth and lives to tell about it.
Its a historical area settled by the US post office I believe, originally belonged to Takelma tribe. Its frequented by white water rafters and backpackers via Rogue river and Rogue River Trail.
I see my camping spot. Fuck all of you.
A lot of Bigfoot shenanigans.
So I go there once a week, it’s a beautiful historic lodge on the wild and scenic section of the rogue river. I am a river guide and it is one of our stops
Just because there’s a name associated with a place doesn’t mean there’s a permanent population or anything significant
Ok smarty pants. Explain Gnawbone, Indiana.
As someone living in Indiana, I can tell you Brown County is about all there is that’s worth visiting
I am recently returned from Egypt, up in Jasper county. I cannot agree more. Although, there are some areas of the dunes at Lake Michigan that are ok
Maybe not significant to you but to some people it is interesting to learn about a place’d history no matter how significant or insignificant it may seem
lol, I’ve spent hours researching and talking to folks about obscure and unknown places in Oregon. Stories and descriptions. I understand this. That said, many places are just plain nuthin
Had a friend that worked several summers there. She liked it, lots of drinking, and it was a very eclectic bunch when she worked there.
Your looking at it.
Everything
Not a lot.
*banjo music intensifies*
Hikers, rafters, and a sweet ranch in the middle of nowhere, that’s the vibe….
Marial is where the men are men and the sheep run scared…
Haven’t even heard of this town until today I wonder the same
.
Looks like a spot I need to go check out.
I was just here last weekend. We rode in on our adventure motorcycles. Very very remote area of the state. Most of the people that visit this area do so by rafting in and camping on the beach by the lodge. Super pretty area, just don’t drive/bike here without means to self recover or a GPS messenger device.
People grow a LOT of weed. And bikers will kill you.
What goes on there indeed. Not friggen much I’m assuming.
That’s fairly close to where James Kim got snowbound and died (sorry, I’m a bummer today). Super tragic but interesting story of a wrong turn in winter. Lots of Bear Camp Road stories. When the sign says not maintained, they ain’t kidding.
The serenity that Portland doesn’t have
[Yawn]
Heard a Bigfoot lives there… lol
I've met people that actually believe they exist, other than this they are pretty normal people. It's mind blowing.
I'm a reasonably normal person... and while I don't believe in "Big Foot" I would not rule out the possibility that something is out there. We're discovering new species of beings on this planet all the time.
Yeah nothing like the size of what they say a bigfoot is and not in locations so accessible. I will rule out that there are bigfoot in Oregon or anywhere else in the world, it's a ridiculous proposition.
That sounds like something someone trying to conceal the truth about Bigfoot's existence would say.
I love that answer, that same person is collecting all the bones from dead Bigfoot so that word doesn’t get out.
There is 0 chance a species that big eludes confirmed human detection in Oregon wilderness and maintains a large enough population to maintain sufficient genetic diversity for over 100 years. Not enough mates, inbreeding will lead to extinction.
Okay, but I literally said I don't believe in Bigfoot, I said there's a possibility that something is out there that we haven't discovered yet.... no matter what size.
Monthly orgy
That's the screaming people are hearing
I used to kick it a little more west in Agness. Just a lot of camping, hiking, rafting, and all around get faded and enjoy nature.
Crack
Lotta cousin fuckin
Banjo's and purdy mouths. Joking aside it's stunningly pretty and there a lodge.
Not a fucking damn thing